Hayagrīva: Now Kali is depicted as a male. As male?
Prabhupāda: As male, yes.
Hayagrīva: Because sometimes I know he's depicted as female.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Male, his feature black, and dressed like a king. Black means ignorance. And similarly the scene is also blackish.
Hayagrīva: Yes.
Prabhupāda: These things should be ascertained(?). Then, it is mentioned there, exhibit illicit sex, slaughterhouse, intoxication, gambling. Then the third scene is very nice. Rāsa dance.