Umāpati: Yes. The schools are falling apart. Delinquency and there's lots of criminal activity amongst the children in school. And even the teachers are walking out of the classrooms because of the violence in the schools and the lack of communication with their students.
Prabhupāda: No, in India, in examination hall there is regularly police. Regularly. I have seen it. So what is the value of this education? There is regular police. Now there is no ordinary guard.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: In fact some people get killed. During the examination hall, people get killed.
Prabhupāda: Just see.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Sometimes people want to copy, and those people who are...
Prabhupāda: Guarding.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes. They catch them, and sometimes they get killed outside. Still in Calcutta.
Prabhupāda: Yes. There has been case. Yes.
Umāpati: In Calcutta that way too?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Oh yes. I was in the examination hall, and in fact, people are very afraid to be caught there. But now I heard that the government of India is going to change the system of examination.
Prabhupāda: What is that?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: That they have introduced a grade system just like here in the United States, and then there will be open books, so that they will be not be afraid of copying things. Open book examination.
Prabhupāda: Oh, common sense. (pause) (break) ...man's aeroplane. Just see. Immediately he goes up. And man's aeroplane, oh, you have to takes position, you have to go so many miles like this. Then you can... It is imitation. The aeroplane has also wings, but his wings is collapsed. But that wing you have to keep. Therefore you require so much space.