Prabhupāda: So you do not expect any good things from them. Otherwise you will not have any progress.
Girirāja: Well, we've seen from practical experience, they've never done anything except waste our time. Just like you said, they got rid of a lion and now there is a tiger.
Girirāja: You said that they have got rid of a lion and now in place there is a tiger.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Morarji Desai met some of our devotees in Hoshiapur.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: (whispers)
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Tamāla Kṛṣṇa Swami told me you know it.
Prabhupāda: So why don't you see him?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, I was waiting for the Shriman Narayan meeting, but now I think we'll go back and see...
Prabhupāda: There is no... Narayan told... You can say, "This man assured us. Why cannot...? He's not available." So we can take him if he's kind enough to see. "It will be great kind to us." Just simply say.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: "And this permanent residence American give us. Not only us, there're so many other Indians. I was permanent resident. So what is the wrong there? And you can make any condition. Kindly give us this paper." Go and see.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay.
Prabhupāda: Go and see and appeal.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. I'll go tomorrow.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And find out some good confidants.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. I got three very big...
Prabhupāda: You cannot expect Vṛndāvana to go big on business. It is not possible. You also find. Don't sit idly. I am prepared to pay for that. "Why you should not give us?" Here, there, any hell, heaven, find out.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Allahabad is the best place, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: No, you find best place and again it becomes worse. Again you find out. Do it. Don't talk. I don't want talk. I want to see. That's all now. (break) Now the cow-killing is very troublesome. (Hindi) Don't kill now. (laughs) (Hindi) That is very troublesome. Don't kill me now. Go on. (kīrtana) (break)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This should be done immediately, make trust property.
Prabhupāda: You are seeing it is done? Who says that? Where is the rascal?(?)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: To designate all these...
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: It should be done for all the property all over ISKCON.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, but especially here in India.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Like in big temples, like in L.A., New York, like that.
Bhavānanda: Śrīla Prabhupāda, the trustees should be designated.
Prabhupāda: You do not know. Trustee without designation—where is the trustee? I have already made one block of trustees, that Bhaktivedanta Book Trust.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.