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Śyāma dasi: Prabhupāda, can you tell me what you want for prasādam today?
Prabhupāda: Yes. The same.
Śyāma dasi: Eggplant or string beans?
Prabhupāda: Whatever you like. You give me four capātīs, little rice, and little vegetable. That's all. Don't put much butter, ghee. Yes.
Śyāma dasi: Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: (laughs) Old age, we cannot now digest too much butter. That creates air. Although at night I don't take anything. Once I eat. And in the morning I take little fruits. That's all.
Prof. Kotovsky: But... I am sorry to interrupt you, but originally, to my knowledge, original Indian society, when, in the second half of Indian society, when in Calcutta by order of British administration was codified, so-called, you know, remember, "Jantu Law," they called, a big digest of Hindu law, there was a lot of change...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prof. Kotovsky: ...called in.
Prabhupāda: Yes, they manufactured another...
Prof. Kotovsky: And this, the actual Hindu law which was used by Hindus, they're quite different from original Manu-smṛti.
Prabhupāda: No, they have now made changes. Just like our late Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru. He made some Hindu code. He introduced in that Hindu code the right of divorcing husband and wife. But these were not in Manu-saṁhitā. And, of course, they are changing. If you like, you can change. But the social order also not exactly the same as it was before.
Prabhupāda: So there is a cause. That means there is a cause. We have to accept the cause. So that cause, we go further till we find out the cause of all causes.
Dr. Weir: You see, what worries me, Swami, is that there is two ways of making sure (indistinct), each containing this necessity of eating. Now, some people eat (indistinct). They digest it, they live perfectly healthily. They know nothing about carbohydrates, proteins and fats. They know nothing about saliva. They know nothing about enzymes or digestion. Well they live quite satisfactory lives. Other people start worrying about whether they've got the right amount of calories, the right amount of vitamins, whether they're taking enough water at the meal or not. One wonders that if you're starting to, worrying about that, it means somehow you're less perfect than the person who's able to digest quite happily without the knowledge.
Prabhupāda: Well, if you say like that, the majority of living entities, they are eating without this knowledge of enzyme and other things. So if you take votes the votes are greater. Just like human being, a few human beings are interested in analyzing this enzyme. But the human beings are very small quantity. There are 8,400,000 species of life. They're eating with a natural way and they're quite healthy.
Dr. Weir: And there, what worries me, I was going a stage further, you do tend to find the people who want to understand about digestion are those whose stomachs are not very good.
Prabhupāda: Another thing is. Just like grass, straw. The cows are eating straw and giving the most vitaminous food, milk, full of vitamins A and D. But if you scientifically say that there is, I mean to say, vitamins in the grass and straw, then you eat straw. Vitamins is there. Why it is (indistinct). Your analysis of enzyme and vitamin. How you can say milk does not... (break) ...then you'll die. Why this law is there? The cow is producing most vitaminous food, milk, by simply eating dry grass and straw.
Bob: But when you eat the food, there is energy from the sun in the food...
Prabhupāda: No, that... I am giving the example, I am creating some energy by digesting the food and that is maintaining my body. Therefore my body is maintained by my energy. If your energy supply is not proper, then your body becomes not in proper order. Therefore the conclusion is that your body is made out of your own energy. Similarly, why this big gigantic body, universes, is not made of Kṛṣṇa's energies? How can you deny? As your body is made out of your energy, similarly, the universal body must be made by somebody's energy. That is Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: The perfect devotee does not make any discrimination. But if I am not a perfect devotee, I have got discrimination, why shall I imitate a perfect devotee? That will not be possible to assimilate or digest. Because I am not a perfect devotee. These things are... A devotee should not be a foolish man. It is said that kṛṣṇa yei bhaje se baḍa catura. So a devotee knows his position and he's intelligent enough to deal with others accordingly. (break) ...it is posted? The... Specifically, it is prescribed that one should perform yajña. Yajña means to act for satisfaction of Lord Viṣṇu, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. In the Bhagavad-gītā it is said... So shall I stop this fan? I think you can stop. You got? Otherwise much mosquitoes may disturb.
Prabhupāda: Then the wings fly there, and the jaws catch the food, and after all he puts into the mouth. Similarly, as in this body, this particular example, the stomach is the enjoyer, similarly, the central figure of whole cosmic manifestation, material or spiritual, the central figure is Kṛṣṇa, God. He's the enjoyer. We can understand. As in my this particular body, the body is also a creation. The body has got the same mechanism as you will find out in the whole universe. The same mechanical, anywhere you go, you find even in animals or human body or in the cosmic manifestation. Almost the same mechanism. So as you understand very easily that in this body, my body, your body, the stomach is the enjoyer. Or there is a central enjoyer. And the stomach is friend also of everyone. Because if we cannot digest food, you see, then all other limbs of the body they become weak. Therefore stomach is the friend. It is digesting and distribute the energy to all the limbs of the body. Is it not?
Bob: It is so.
Prabhupāda: Well vegetarians are not animals. (laughter) In India, you'll still you'll find ninety-percent of the population, they're vegetarians, strictly. Always vegetarians. They're quite healthy, they're working. Therefore vegetarians are human beings. Vegetables, that food is meant for human beings. That is natural. For a human being to become nonvegetarian is unnatural. And to become vegetarian, that is natural. Just like our teeth, it is meant for cutting vegetables, fruit, not meat. You will find cutting by these teeth, meat, it will be difficult. But you take any vegetable, any fruit, you can immediately cut. Our medical laws says that anything eatable which you cannot cut with the teeth and smash it properly, it will not be digested. So fruits and vegetables you can properly cut even raw, not to speak of cooked. Raw vegetables and raw fruits, you can cut with these teeth and smash it and you swallow, it will be nicely digested.
Sumati Morarjee: And sugar, and heat it, and keep it some time, and then properly mix it, and then not very cold or anything. Little how you'll give it to him and that will improve his digestion. Because this (indistinct) won't be there, due to itch. (indistinct).
Prabhupāda: Our example, gosāi, gosvāmī all the gosvāmīs, let me speak in English.
Sumati Morarjee: Yes, yes.
Prabhupāda: The gosvāmīs in Vṛndāvana, they're nidrāhāra-vihārakādi-vijitau **.
Sumati Morarjee: Hm.
Prabhupāda: Nidrā āhāra vihāra, nidrāhāra-vihārakādi-vijitau cātyanta-dīnau ca rādhā-kṛṣṇa-padāravinda-bhajanānandena mattālikau. Āhāra nidrā vihārakādi-vijitau cātyanta-dīnau ca yau. Raghunātha dāsa Gosvāmī, he was, at that time, 500 years ago, his father's income was 12 lakhs of rupees.
Prabhupāda: That's all. People after sense gratification. A diseased man, who cannot digest, if he thinks that "I shall eat this, I shall eat that, I shall eat that," but actually he cannot digest. Eating this or that, how it will help him? (laughs) If you have lost your digesting power, then if you change, "I eat this, I shall eat that," that will not help you. So the modern civilized man, he has lost the point how he can be happy. He is simply changing the program of sense gratification. That's all.
Prabhupāda: Or you can ask Himavatī. What is your formula?
Devotee (Revatīnandana): Ginger powder and a little bit of saffron and sugar. Heat it up for a while, and then after a little while mix thoroughly and serve like that. It's good for digestion.
Prabhupāda: You give to Nanda Kumāra, because he will give.
Revatīnandana: Yeah.
Prabhupāda: (converses in Hindi with Indian about traveling saṅkīrtana party in Birmingham, Cardiff)
Devotee (1): She was very happy, Sumati Morarji.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Devotee (1): She went away very happy.
Prabhupāda: Everyone will be happy when you are Kṛṣṇa's devotee. You see? She's seeing Kṛṣṇa's so many devotees. That is Kṛṣṇa bhakta.
Prabhupāda: Easygoing, that is actual real life. But that easygoing, you must come to that stage. If you come to a healthy stage, then when you eat you can digest nicely. But unhealthy stage, if you eat, how you will digest? Therefore, you have to cure your disease first of all. Then you eat, it will be digested. So in the material condition, nothing can be (indistinct). Therefore, how it is called conditioned life?
Jayatīrtha: We're bound up by so many conditions.
Prabhupāda: Ah, the conditions. So first of all you come out of the conditioned life. Just like we are trying to go to other planets with so many machines, so many mechanical arrangements. But if you have got spiritual body, you can go anywhere. Anywhere you can go. As Nārada Muni is going, traveling, any planet he likes he is going. That freedom is there, but that is in spiritual body. So you come to the spiritual body first, then you get all freedom. Whatever you like, you can do. Whatever you desire, you can get.
Prabhupāda: No. It contains more fat. Milk means cow's milk. If you want to derive milk profit, then it is cow's milk. Otherwise every animal has got milk. And next to cow's milk is goat's milk. Goat. Buffalo milk is not so nice.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: It's difficult to digest.
Prabhupāda: No, they therefore mix with water.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: In Manipur we use mostly buffalo milk because cow's milk is not very plenty. Very expensive also.
Prabhupāda: Everywhere. In India, cows are disappearing by slaughterhouse. (pause) (break) The scientists cannot make drinking water from sea water?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes. They can make.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is also ingredient of pāna. Pāna, it is called pāna.
Guest (2): I offered Vaikuṇṭhajī supāri. You see he won't accept it. So I thought, well, it only helps digestion because it only brings the saliva in the mouth.
Prabhupāda: Well, wine is also very digestive. (laughter) An appetizer also. All Europeans, they take first of all wine to eat voraciously. I see in the airplane. And after taking wine, they eat so much.
Guest (8): And then they go for dancing to digest it.
Prabhupāda: Simple life, simple life, innocent life... Because after all, we have to give up this material world. If we become attached, then we'll have to take birth again. Nivṛtta-tarṣair... There is another verse quoted by Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. It is very difficult, but there is possibility. Niṣkiñcanasya bhagavad-bhajanonmukhasya. Bhagavad-bhajana, those who are eager to go back to home, back to Godhead... Pāraṁ paraṁ jigamiṣor bhava-sāgarasya. On the other side of this material world. For him... Viṣayiṇāṁ sandarśanam atha yoṣitāṁ ca, hā hanta hanta viṣa-bhakṣaṇato 'py asādhu (CC Madhya 11.8). For such person to be attracted by these material things is not good. It is suicidal. So material things, viṣaya, simply increasing the method of eating, sleeping, sex life and defense. This is material activity.
Prabhupāda: Oh yes. Kāmaṁ vavarṣa parjanyaḥ (SB 1.10.4). During Mahārāja Parīkṣit's time, one black man was attempting to kill a cow. Immediately the king wanted to kill him, immediately: "Oh, who are you?" It is the duty of the vaiśyas. Kṛṣi-go-rakṣya-vāṇijyam vaiśya-karma-svabhāva-jam (BG 18.44). It is the duty of the vaiśyas to protect the cows, to increase agricultural activities and trade. But they are now interested in producing electronic parts. No go-rakṣya, no vāṇijyam, no food production. Cheap profit, and for eating, let there be slaughterhouse and eat meat. And to digest meat, you drink wine. This is being taught. So you create the situation and when you suffer, then why should we lament? We have created this situation, godless civilization, do not follow the direction of the śāstras.
Prabhupāda: No, you are not boss. You are also one of the workers.
Prajāpati: Are you telling how the stomach to digest and how the hair to grow and how the...
Prabhupāda: No, you are not...
Svarūpa Dāmodara: No, I am talking about the relationship between my, so many individual souls, the cells, and my spirit soul.
Prabhupāda: Relationship... Wherever you go, there is some relationship. That is... That inter-relationship is already there. I am walking on this sand. I have got some relationship. If the sand would have been soft, I could not walk. So the relationship is there already, intermingled. But what is the central relationship? That is wanted, to know. That is God.
Prabhupāda: Coconut, you collect, and each one of you use at least two coconuts daily, drinking water and the pulp. It is very digestive and nutritious. The pulp is very nutritious and digestive. If you simply take the pulp from two sides and drink that water, you don't require to eat anything. It is so nutritious. So better collect, and so long you can get them, use two coconuts daily yourself. (japa) (break) ...purchase that Kṛṣṇa, and when he'll ask this man to "Give me that Kṛṣṇa book, let me read," this "Kṛṣṇa" will give him some benefit, his calling "Kṛṣṇa Book."
Prabhupāda: Devotional activities, either he leaves from home or not leaves, that doesn't matter. It must continue from the very beginning. For the management of affairs, we require to divide. Because there are different classes of brain, so those who have very intellectual brain, they should become brāhmaṇas. Those who are fit for management and protection, they should be trained as kṣatriya. And those who are fit for producing food, taking care of the cows, they should be trained as vaiśya. And the balance, they're all śūdras. This is the division. You... Everywhere you'll find this division, natural. One class of men, very intelligent. One class of men, very strong, good brain for management, administration. (aside) Jaya. One class of men, fit for tilling the ground, field, and produce food, take care of the cows. And the balance, śūdra. That's all. So in our society, this division should be there. The most intelligent class of men, they should be engaged in preaching, reading books and instructing, taking care of Deity worship, temple, and another class should be strong managers, that things are going on nicely. Everyone is engaged, not that eating and sleeping. Everyone must be engaged, employed. So, so if one is very much adapted for eating and sleeping, he should be engaged with plows. You see. He must be activity. Otherwise, there must be dysentery, eating and sleeping. He cannot digest.
Prabhupāda: You have not digested your food. (break) Any carpenter working in... (break) The government was pleased to reply that they're maintaining themselves by selling literature. Similarly, if it comes to the notice of the government that they're maintaining ourselves by production of food, they'll like very much. (break) In your temple.
Devotee: Feeding.
Prabhupāda: (chuckles) (break)
Bhagavān: ...the society would go to the gurukula, and there it would be decided what their work would be?
Prabhupāda: Yes. First of all there should be an instructor on the spiritual life, then according to his position... Our spiritual life is meant, we should always remember... But for management we have to make divisions.
Prabhupāda: What you have produced, that's all. Very simple thing. Everyone was engaged producing. There was no necessity. And here the rascals are advising, produce bolts and nuts, tire, and drill petrol. They are not producing food. And the so-called government men, they are levying taxes, and they are enjoying. They haven't got to produce food. They are killing animals, eating, and digesting with wine. And then woman. That's all. This is their business. And food price is increasing daily. They don't mind because they will print paper, and to the supplier they will give paper. That's all.
Bhagavān: A little material benefit, that increase, they take to be spiritual.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Gymnastic. Just like a man, by bodily exercise, he becomes a little strong. His digestive function becomes very easy, he can eat more. He can enjoy more sex life. These benefits they want. And if you promise all these benefits, they become attracted. And they cannot understand, tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti kaunteya (BG 4.9). After giving up this body, we do not accept anymore material body, but go to back to home, back to... These things they cannot understand.
C. Hennis: Well, I think that the International Labor Organization is devoted to the reduction of inequalities between the different classes of men with a view to getting them all a better share of the good things of life, and by that, they may begin to reach a greater degree of human happiness, as they understand it, as the people themselves understand it. It may be that they don't understand it well.
Prabhupāda: No. Nature's way is not better share, but equal share. Just like when you take foodstuff, put it in the stomach, and when it is easily digested and transformed into different secretion and comes to the heart and becomes blood, there is equal distribution. Not that because brain is first-class, therefore the blood transformation to the brain should go more. No. Then it will be blood pressure, high blood pressure. This is nature's way, that... But when the energy goes to the brain, it acts differently. When the energy goes to the hands, it acts differently. The electricity energy is the same, but sometimes by working on the dictaphone, sometimes on the microphone, sometimes in electric heater, sometimes in refrigerator... The different apparatuses are there, but the energy is the same, equal. In that sense, the communistic idea that whatever energy is there, whatever resources are there, they should be equally distributed, that is nature's way. From the body we can understand that when the foodstuff turns into secretion, it goes to the heart and becomes blood. The blood is transfused through different veins to different parts of the body, and you will find everybody is satisfied.
Bishop Kelly: Well, of course, the difficulty as you rightly point out many times there, that man in the present day civilization, he is so often mesmerized, he is captivated by what he sees in front of him... It is the modern garden of Eden that he sees. He sees many delectable apple trees, so to speak, and he feels in the new vaunted value given to personalism and the expression of self, and the self-seeking, that he reaches out towards those things, and I'm afraid that in many cases the difficulty is to convince him that he is only getting poor substitutes until he has tasted and eaten and tried to digest and finds, you know, that there is no satisfaction, there is no wholesome food to be found there.
Prabhupāda: That is also stated in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam by... That is also statement of Prahlāda Mahārāja, this boy devotee. He says, na te viduḥ svārtha-gatiṁ hi viṣṇum: (SB 7.5.31) "These foolish people, they do not know, what is their actual self-interest." So he says, "They do not know the actual self-interest is approaching God. That is real self-interest.
Prabhupāda: They can eat stone and digest.
Bali Mardana: They can eat the sand.
Prabhupāda: Sand?
Bali Mardana: The sand is made of little stones.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Not sand, not sand.
Bali Mardana: Pebbles.
Prabhupāda: What is this?
Bali Mardana: Snails.
Umāpati: Shells. No, birds eat stones too.
Prabhupāda: No. Yes. They eat that.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: No. You said they have a special power to digest.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Especially these, what is this called? Duck?
Bahulāśva: Pigeon.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Oh, pigeon. Yes.
Prabhupāda: Peacock. Peacock also.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: They swallow the...
Prabhupāda: Peacock also, they can digest.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: And they can digest very easily.
Prabhupāda: (loud waves) ...I have seen.
Bali Mardana: According to Vedic culture, is seaweed edible?
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Bali Mardana: Seaweed? Is that edible?
Prabhupāda: I don't find. Why they should eat seaweed?
Bali Mardana: In Asia, many people eat seaweed. Certain types of plants that grow in the sea.
Prabhupāda: No, no.
Rāmeśvara: In America it is very popular.
Prabhupāda: That is all right, but why man should eat seaweed?
Kṛṣṇa-kānti: When there are so many nice things.
Prabhupāda: There are so many vegetables.
Prabhupāda: Oh. Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura's family. "Book Digest." They publish our books?
Kirtirāja: We are trying to arrange that now. All of these different... There are so many magazines we are trying to get our books listed in them. Śrīla Prabhupāda, here's a magazine which one Christian press nearby has printed, very fancy magazine, and they were distributing it for free. They just recently printed a letter and then sent this. They have gone from this to this because they cannot afford to do it any more. No one is giving them donations any more, so they've gone from big fancy magazine to a small, plain paper. This people would like to see, but now this just looks like garbage. They won't even read it.
Prabhupāda: So it has degraded.
Prabhupāda: Then you take, why you are searching after protein?
Guest (1): Because we cannot digest the fibre in it.
Prabhupāda: Then? Then it is not suitable for you. Therefore nature's arrangement is that protein can be produced through the body of the cow.
Guest (1): I think Swamiji, nature's arrangement was not made for (indistinct) human beings that we have come.
Prabhupāda: Nature was defective, you mean to say?
Guest (1): No, sir.
Prabhupāda: Then?
Guest (1): I mean nature's way is designed as a ecological balance of the...
Prabhupāda: Nature's... If you follow the nature's law, then everything is there. If you deviate (from) the nature's law, then that is defective.
Prabhupāda: No, the thing is that Kṛṣṇa's service is so sublime that even if we cheat, you are not culprit. But because we have to deal with the worldly man, we have to go according to their rules and regulation on cheating. Otherwise, a devotee of Kṛṣṇa, he never cheats. He never cheats. Whatever he does... Just like a mother says to his child, "My dear child, if you take this medicine, I will give you this lugloo." The child is diseased. He will not be able to digest lugloo, but the mother sometimes cheats him. And when he takes the medicine the lugloo is not delivered. Similarly, sometimes we have to say so many things very pleasing to him, but our business is that let him take this medicine. That is tactics.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Is yogurt as healthy as milk?
Prabhupāda: No. Yogurt is healthy when you cannot digest properly. One who can digest, for him, milk is better.
Pañcadraviḍa: (Heavy wind static) Even now the...
Prabhupāda: Where? (end)
Prabhupāda: Yes, big, big seeds. That is also very digestive. If you make it powder, it acts like, what is called, pancreas.
Bali-mardana: I think you once told a story about an Englishman who wanted to taste jackfruit.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) ...tree, jam. It is berry, but blue.
Devotee (1): They call it java plum. It's a very... It's bitter fruit? Is it very bitter?
Prabhupāda: Not bitter. It is sour, little sour.
Prabhupāda: ...very hot place. So every year I used to resolute, "Now I shall give up this place," every year. So I was going Kashmir, Darjeeling. Bhavani, that is near Nainital. (break)
Brahmānanda: ...just in the hot climate. In the hot climate it is more difficult to digest?
Prabhupāda: Maybe.
Brahmānanda: Because here it is much hotter than it was in California.
Jagadīśa: The prasādam you're getting is all right, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Not very all right. Constantly change of hand is not good.
Prabhupāda: We call magur mach. One who cannot digest anything, he is recommended to eat this fish, magur mach. Jīvo jīvasya jīvanam. One living entity is the life of another living entity. Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Mādhavānanda: Is it wet?
Brahmānanda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Then?
Satsvarūpa: Ambarīṣa? Is there another way we can go? It's wet.
Ambarīṣa: We can go back around in the road and then walk along that road over there.
Prabhupāda: Meat-eaters cannot digest ghee. Therefore in America, all of a sudden change of diet in our…, their stomach become upset. Just like animal, dogs, they cannot eat this ghee preparation.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They can’t take it.
Prabhupāda: They can’t take it. So these meat-eaters, like dogs, they cannot digest. (break)
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: In our philosophy, how did man come about? They’ll ask us what is our philosophy how man came about.
Prabhupāda: Man came from man. The first man is Brahmā. From him came. And Brahmā came from Nārāyaṇa, Viṣṇu. So this is easy. Brahmā appeared from Viṣṇu.
Prabhupāda: Keeping life?
Harikeśa: They have these artificial machines that pump blood and breathe and digest food, and they pump everything into the body and they keep it alive. So all the scientists are wondering if they should pull out the plugs because it wastes so much money.
Saurabha: There is some disease now that people enter in some coma, and with the machine they keep them alive for thirty years. There's some lady. She is already thirty and the machine since thirty years...
Prabhupāda: So it's still limited, thirty years, not permanently.
Prabhupāda: Paying hundreds and thousands of dollars. Where is the...? He has lost all capacity, but still, he'll go. Still, he'll go. This is called punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām (SB 7.5.30). In the club, the son is also dancing with the girl, and the old father is dancing, and by chance, they come in contact. The Western civilization is for this, āhāra-nidrā-bhaya-maithuna, eat voraciously, and all become diabetics. They have got diabetes club, association. That means... What is this? Diabetes is the result of voracious eating. That's all. In old age it becomes very prominent because he eats voraciously, but he cannot digest. And all these foodstuffs becomes... What is called? Glucose?
Hari-śauri: Right.
Prabhupāda: And then diabetes. The beginning-āhāra, eating. That gentleman, that doctor who has given us that review, he has. He's very learned man.
Prabhupāda: That, if they... One must go through this practice. Everyone must attend the ārā..., maṅgala-ārātrika. One must attend this. One must attend this. Otherwise no prasādam. If one says, "I am sick," no prasādam. "You are sick. You cannot digest. That's all." And sick, sleeping, and at the time of prasādam, voracious eating, that is not sickness. If you are sick, you cannot take food. Don't take.
Prabhupāda: There is fire within the earth, just as there is fire within the stomach-fire. That helps digestion. In the Ayurvedic śāstra, when one does not feel an appetite, it is called agni-māṁdya (indistinct), rest and (indistinct) of the fire.
Devotee: How can the fire within the stomach be increased?
Prabhupāda: You know everything?
Devotee: No.
Prabhupāda: Then?
Hari-śauri: He said that by taking cold milk, that dampens the fire. I thought that was what we said. That's what I was always told.
Devotee: Certain foods are cooling to the stomach.
Prabhupāda: Appetite is increased on account of the fire. The fire creates different secretions: blood. This is a big machine. It is mentioned in Bhagavad-gītā, yantra. How this yantra is working? Electricity, everything, air.
Prabhupāda: No, if you eat more, then you require more exercise to digest unnecessary loading, but if you eat simply, just to keep our body and soul together, you don't require exercise.
Dr. Wolfe: Well...
Prabhupāda: Little movement is going on, we are walking. But not this severe type of exercise as surfers and fighting with the sea waves for four hours, five hours, ten hours. (devotees laugh)
Dr. Wolfe: But Śrīla Prabhupāda, a kṣatriya has to be strong.
Prabhupāda: That is a.... Kṣatriya is.... Generally...
Dr. Wolfe: And kṣatriyas have to be there.
Prabhupāda: This is especially meant for the brāhmaṇas, intelligent.
Prabhupāda: Everything should be utilized. Instead of drinking water, you can drink whey. It is very good for digesting. Whey, put little salt and black pepper, it is good digestant. You can avoid water, drink whey. You can use it for cāpāṭi.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Making dough?
Prabhupāda: Cāpāṭi, just like you dip the cāpāṭi, dāl, you can dip whey. You can save dāl preparing expenditure. Nothing of milk product can be wasted. You should learn it.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: In this connection, one quality that is quite visible is the, that matter in association with life, there is a constant flow of matter that biologists describe as metabolism. Means we eat some food, and then prasādam is digested in specific ways by so many chemical reactions in the body. But that happens only...
Prabhupāda: That is also stated, ahaṁ vaiśvānaro bhūtvā pacāmy annaṁ catur-vidham. That digestion is also helped by God. Is it not? Ahaṁ vaiśvānaro bhūtvā pacāmy annaṁ catur-vidham. Is it not in the Bhagavad-gītā?
Hari-śauri: Yes, "I am the fire of digestion."
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: No, I want some nice water, digestive. Let us see there.
Jayatīrtha: Here the water is not good?
Prabhupāda: No, no, I don't say it is not good, but...
Bhagavān: This is our own water; it's not city water with so many chemicals in it.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Sweet will help you digest. Don't give three—at least four.
George Harrison: I won't be able to eat much more.
Prabhupāda: Three is given to the enemy. According to our Indian system, if you give somebody three, that means he is enemy.
George Harrison: Oh, really? I always liked the number three.
Prabhupāda: (laughs) You must give at least four.
Prabhupāda: Very good, but I could not digest them. That is my fault, but, oh, it was so nice palatable. Chick peas, chick peas, grow fresh. Eat very nicely, keep strong, drink milk, chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Bas. Don't depend on this outside work and then gradually become debauch, thief, rogues, prostitutes. Is that civilization? They cannot imagine that the modern civilization can go without all these things. Do they not? Slaughterhouse, brothel, cheating, diplomacy, roguery, drinking—without this, no civilization. We are quite opposed. We want to show it is possible, yes. You can stop all this nonsense and still you go on as a perfect civilized man. With character, knowledge, satisfaction, everything. They are trying to gather knowledge by sending so many machines up to date. We have already got. We say you cannot go there, you are simply wasting your time. We have got so much knowledge. No, you can attempt, just like a monkey, that's all right.
Prabhupāda: No, I've seen it. They do it. But that is not very digestive. If you make this sand, hot sand...
Bhagavān: It's light.
Prabhupāda: Very light. In the morning you can give them this puffed grains, then fruits and milk, very good breakfast. I mean to say all self-dependent. Yes. We should save time, as much for this purpose, for chanting, discussing grantha. Not for any personal so-called comforts. We can sit down anywhere on the grass here, and whatever available we make our food. This is the idea. Life will be sublime. Man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī mām. That is real business.
Prabhupāda: Yes, actually my teeth have gone all bad. It is useless. But on account of this toothpaste it is still working. (laughs) Otherwise, according to dental science, it has to be extracted. It is no other remedy. If you go to a dentist, immediately he will say, "Extract all this and have a new set, artificial." That is, I know that. But I don't want to extract. As far as possible, use them and let them fall out automatically, as they have already fallen out so many. Fifty percent already fallen out, and twenty-five percent are shaking, and still I am eating. Otherwise, according to the dental science, I should not eat any salt. In Bengal there is a word that when teeth is rot, then your eating is gone. You cannot digest, you cannot eat. It is not... If the foodstuff is not properly chewed, it causes digestive disturbance. And digestive disturbance means so many diseases. This coughing is due to digestive disturbance. I know that.
Dr. Patel: Really?
Prabhupāda: Yes. "Don't eat milk." Do they not? And they cannot drink also. In Bengal there is a proverb, kule pete ghiya(?) (indistinct). If you supply preparation made of ghee to the dog, he cannot digest it.
Guest: (quotes proverb in Bengali)
Prabhupāda: Ha! They cannot digest factually. They get, what is called? That disease?
Harikeśa: Jaundice.
Prabhupāda: Jaundice. They cannot eat much milk product.
Prabhupāda: That will be easily digested.
Jayapatākā: Digestion is not good now.
Gargamuni: This will help digestion.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Gargamuni: This medicine.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: I cannot digest. Hare Kṛṣṇa. (break) Because you have to walk. (laughs) (break) ...can stay here. Jaya.
Hari-śauri: Hut!
Children: Hut! Hut! Hut!
Hari-śauri: Don't annoy it. Otherwise, it might not be so friendly.
Prabhupāda: Oh, you have to walk, why you are getting?
Hari-śauri: There's no room. Prabhupāda said you have to walk. You have to stay in the park.
Children: No!
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: It's a straight road.
Hari-śauri: Come on, let's go. Let's lock the door. (break) (in the car)
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: His father's the head pūjārī.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Haṁsadūta: I had one devotee, his name was Rad... (break) ...you know and you know. He does nothing at all. He's always sick. But at prasādam he eats more than any other man. I told him, "Prabhu, you're a doctor. You should know that if you eat so much food you can't digest, you're going to be sick." He says, "No, I'm so weak I require food. I have to, I can't get any strength." So I asked him, "At least, sit down in the temple and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa." He said "I can't..."
Prabhupāda: I have seen. Some of them eat so much I am surprised.
Akṣayānanda: They don't know if you eat a lot and then work very hard, that's all right. But they eat a lot and then sleep a lot, as Mahārāja said. If they would simply work. Eat a lot, all right, but then work very hard. Then it's all digested.
Hari-śauri: They eat a lot at midday and then they're useless for the rest of the day. Sleep two or three hours in the afternoon and then stagger out for ārati.
Akṣayānanda: Now they eat in the morning.
Prabhupāda: So, how to manage this? It is very difficult.
Prabhupāda: Eh, (Hindi) In that night because in daytime it is so hot, it is embarrassing to cook and to digest also. Better take food, ah, fruit, this melon, and at night they take 3 or 4 cāpāṭis according to the... And good sleep. Very happy life it was, all over India. There was no question of poverty. People did not know what is poverty and now it is poverty. They do not get even sufficient food.
Hari-śauri: Industrialization.
Prabhupāda: Ugra-karma. I don't like industrialism.
Prabhupāda: Simply salt and lemon juice. Cut some pieces into half and soak it in lemon juice and put sufficient salt. In due course it will be very nice, thick. Very digestible. (break) Not yet utilized. So you have to do that. (break)
Mahāṁśa: ...a trench and a hedge, which has been planted here so that people and animals... Animals is the main problem. They come and they eat up the plants which we grow. So by having this trench we avoid animals from getting in and a hedge also. There'll be a lot of... One big problem that the Badrukas faced was that there was tremendous pilferage. These village people, they live on this land. They used to cut all the wood here for fire, they used to take whatever grows here, maize, and they used to steal in the night everything. Many times...
Prabhupāda: So ask them to chant and take prasādam. They will be rectified. Make them friends, family members. Just we organize, everything is there.
Prabhupāda: I am going because I have to go to Bhuvaneśvara via Calcutta. So it is on the way. And besides that, it is a big function. And because my health is not good, if Allahabad atmosphere or Bhuvaneśvara atmosphere helps me little, it is... Of all foodstuff, I see the kitri is good for me, little kitri.
Mr. Asnani: Easily digested also.
Prabhupāda: So I shall begin again kitri. (Hindi) (break) ...take agriculture, you must keep cows. Both of them are related.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Now, yesterday we made simple cooking. How it was nice.
Gurudāsa: We're making soup at night, simple soup, and devotees like it 'cause it's not hurting their digestion. And I'm having some flat rice on hand for anyone who needs it. So, I'm trying to care for everything.
Prabhupāda: There is milk supply? No.
Gurudāsa: Yes. We have one man from Vṛndāvana who's bringing milk at 2.70 a kilo, a little costly, but Mela time, and they have to bring it from a far distance. Anyway, 2.70, kilo, cow's milk.
Prabhupāda: Cow's milk...
Hari-śauri: They say. (laughter)
Prabhupāda: Cow's milk means buffalo with water.
Prabhupāda: Why not spend some money for advertisement? It will be noticed.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: We can advertise them in prestigious papers like Reader's Digest or printer's...
Prabhupāda: Nice advertisement. Spend some money.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: That will increase our prestige.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Prabhupāda: Very prestigious papers like Time, Reader's Digest. Reader's Digest is the highest circulation.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, in the world. Śrīla Prabhupāda, the Sunday New York Times has a big section just on books, and that's the most respected in the world, their books section and their book reviews. That is very prestigious. All the leading people read it.
Prabhupāda: But wherever you advertise, it must be prominent. It must immediately come to the notice. You can spend little more.
Prabhupāda: Why? If he can produce many big men, he can have hundreds of women. But you cannot do that. Therefore you are restrained. You are bad. You better restrain. Don't have sex, because you'll produce cats and dogs. But one who is able to produce great brain, great philosophers, he should produce hundreds. You do not know how to produce good brain. Therefore you stop! Don't produce cats and dogs. For you it is "Stop." You do not know how to use sex. Therefore you should stop. (break) You should not any more use sex. But one who can produce better brains should have hundreds of times. You must know how to produce. That is Vedic civilization, dharmaḥ saṁskāra idam...(?) It is not a secrecy, how to produce brain. And because brain is not produced, therefore there is agitation, that they have no brain. They do not know the value of this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. You have been produced like cats and dogs; therefore you cannot appreciate. Therefore you should stop. But one who has power to produce brain, to produce Kṛṣṇa conscious children, they should be use. Foodstuff is forbidden for a person who cannot digest. One who can digest food, he must eat sumptuously. There is no restriction for him. Food is not bad. One who cannot digest, it is bad for him. This is the conclusion. What is food for one is poison for another. If you cannot use sex power how to use it for better purposes, you should not use sex. What is that verse that Kṛṣṇa says? Sarva-yoniṣu kaunteya... (BG 14.4).
Prabhupāda: ...discussing some subject matter from Reader's Digest about the next two hundred years, how things will happen, the scientist proposing that they'll control the laws of nature, and they will produce food from garbage, so many fantastic ideas. But our suggestion, according to Caitanya Mahāprabhu,
Rāmeśvara: This is a very bad picture. It makes the devotees look very strange. And they have this elaborate ghee holder.
Prabhupāda: This is our men?
Rāmeśvara: Yes. This is at an ārati. You can see the donations that people have put on the tray. But it makes it look very strange, this picture with the lighting. They have deliberately selected this.
Prabhupāda: Very big article.
Prabhupāda: Our immediately problem is toward my health. I am not digesting food, so therefore there is some swelling in the hands and the legs.
Rāmeśvara: That's due to the kidney?
Prabhupāda: Kidney or whatever it may be.
Rāmeśvara: So is it affecting your translation work?
Prabhupāda: That is not affected. That is going on. I have translated today seventeen volumes (verses?). That does not affect.
Hari-śauri: Reader's Digest, that "Life After Death."
Prabhupāda: "Life After..." They do not believe. Western countries, they do not believe there is life after death. They are making research.
Hari-śauri: But if it comes in a scientific presentation, (laughs) then they accept.
Prabhupāda: What is this scientific presentation? (laughs) It is simple thing. Kṛṣṇa is giving the example, the dehāntara. A child is changing body to boyhood, boyhood... Very simple thing. But the brain is so dull, they cannot understand.
Prabhupāda: So madman they are.
Rāmeśvara: It was in Reader's Digest. They had that idea. And they described one man who invested fifty thousand dollars and imported crabs from, where? Australia, Indonesia. And he put them in a pond. He was thinking they will reproduce and I'll have huge family of crabs.
Prabhupāda: That you can have. That is material...
Rāmeśvara: And the crabs, in such close quarters, they began eating each other.
Prabhupāda: Acchā?
Rāmeśvara: And at the end he had one crab left for his fifty thousand dollars. (chuckling)
Prabhupāda: A madman working... Chāgale nā khāya, pāgale ki bale. "A madman, what does he not say, and a goat, what does he not eat?" There is a system like that amongst the Muhammadan aristocracy. They keep one hundred chickens. Each day they kill one chicken, and that flesh, chopped up and given to the ninety-nine. Then, next day another. In this way, when one is left, that the master eats. Concentrating from hundred to one, and then he eats it. This is Muhammadan process.
Jayapatākā: So this morning you won't go..., be going on a walk. You're not feeling up to a walk this morning? It affected your kidney or your digestion?
Prabhupāda: That I cannot say. But the foodstuff is not digesting. That can I say. I am not feeling at all appetite.
Bhavānanda: Śrīla Prabhupāda I haven't digested either from yesterday.
Prabhupāda: Ācchā? What is the reason?
Satsvarūpa: I don't know. Eating here was very nice, and now, since yesterday...
Hari-śauri: I digested all mine. (laughter)
Prabhupāda: Same digestion.
Prabhupāda: Every business is important. Brāhmaṇa business is important, kṣatriya... Just like the body. Head is important; the arm is important; the belly is important. They must be kept in order. Just like I am in trouble because my belly is not working. Digesting power is not good. So in spite of brain, hand, and leg, I am diseased. If any part of the society remains diseased, the whole society will suffer. Therefore they must be maintained in correct order. You cannot say if there is some trouble in the leg, "Neglect the leg. Take care of the brain." No. Brain will be taxed due to the pain in the leg. This is nature. Therefore everyone should be kept in order. Then things will go on. That is varṇāśrama. They do not know that. Sometimes they are giving stress... That communist is giving stress to the śūdra class, and the capitalist are giving to the belly class. And what about the head? What about the arms? And therefore topsy-turvied. Everything is disorder. There are two classes of men now-capitalist and communist.
Prabhupāda: No. They simply take boiled, little black pepper and salt. That's all. (laughter) And that is also stale meat. That is Western. And then they drink coffee and tea.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And liquor.
Brahmānanda: And cigarette.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And cigarette for digestion.
Prabhupāda: And their loaf, that is three hundred years old, (laughter) with little butter like...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Actually they are eating just like prisoners.
Prabhupāda: So from restaurant you have got good income there?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Approximately, I would say, between $7,500 and $10,000 a month. That is not all profit, but that is the gross income. Profit? At least more than half profit. And much milk products are used. We supply the temple and the restaurant from the farm four hundred gallons of milk per week.
Prabhupāda: You get from the farm.
Prabhupāda: Very digestive.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, yes. And water sells now for a dollar a gallon now in New York. A good market.
Prabhupāda: Just see.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: "So we at ISKCON farm look forward to an even more bountiful harvest in the year 1977. This is subscribed and sworn before me by a notary public." So it is official report.
Prabhupāda: Very good report. It is worth seeing, worth considering our... If we develop our farms in India on this basis, it will be very nice. We have got greater land. You have got 450 acres; we have got 600. No? Now it requires development.
Prabhupāda: Chili in mild quality, it is digestive.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Every day with the lunch that we are getting...
Prabhupāda: Very good.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...we have chili, and we have nimbu ācār. That is also digestive a little. And then at the end we have popper, dry popper.
Prabhupāda: Very good.
Prabhupāda: They have learned to eat meat. Meat-eaters, they don't like ghee. Meat-eaters, they say (Hindi). (laughter) "A dog cannot digest ghee." Because they are meat-eaters.
Bhāgavata: Here's some more ghee.
Bali-mardana: These are all the book distributors. They have all come for your darśana with ghee. (laughter)
Bhāgavata: Soon I will not be able to see you.
Jayatīrtha: Also meat-eaters can't stand the smell of ghee cooking. No?
Prabhupāda: This ghee should be distributed in all our Indian centers.
Prabhupāda: I have no appetite. I cannot digest. This is going on. (break) (doctor has left) ...You have seen the birds, the sparrow, the crows. They are different birds. They have got different movements.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh.
Prabhupāda: From the pulse beating, you study how it is beating.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Like sparrow, like crow.
Prabhupāda: Ācchā. Then, according to that, there is verse. Immediately everything will be arranged. The history. He will not ask, "Give me the history." He'll study the history from the pulse. That is Ayurvedic. So that is gone. To study Āyur-veda is now lost. Nobody seriously takes Āyur-veda.
Prabhupāda: Oh, you have got. Madhureka samapayet.(?) At the end you must take some sweets. Then it will be digested. (Hindi)
Ram Jethmalani: In U.P. they give you sweets first.
Indian man: First, at the time of taking water even.
Prabhupāda: Yes. What is the system in your society? Sweet first or last?
Indian man: In here also, they are given first sweet.
Ram Jethmalani: Yes, but now everything has become Westernized. We have dessert.
Prabhupāda: In northern India first of all they give sweets. So they eat sweet to the heart's content. Then to counteract the sweetness...
Ram Jethmalani: The best way to destroy your appetite is to eat sweet first.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (laughs)
Indian man: They eat last to digest.
Ram Jethmalani: The sugar produces energy to digest your food.
Girirāja: No, no, I will take. (taking prasādam)
Prabhupāda: So I am very glad that you have taken the prasādam. I am pleased. Therefore I wanted that you eat before me. It is a great pleasure.
Ram Jethmalani: We are also very fortunate to eat before you, sir.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya. (Hindi) You take. There is. No. There is sink? There is sink?
Devotee: Here, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Here.
Prabhupāda: All right.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And it's also very good for digestion.
Prabhupāda: So give me lassi.
Upendra: Now?
Prabhupāda: No.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Because we get lots of that dahi. You drink it cool with a little sugar in it. I think it's good for digestion, dahi. How are you feeling today, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Not feel so... That jhuri was very heavy for me. Jhuri, jhuri. What is called?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Heavy. Yeah, I ate some and I couldn't digest it. Even now they're sitting. Very hard to digest. I tried to take some jirā water this morning to help to digest it. Then I took some dahi milk, and I think that helped. I drank a lot of dahi.
Prabhupāda: So you can give me little jirā water.
Prabhupāda: It is being continued. It is being continued now and then.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Feeling ill. I really had a bad..., also, from these... I took these noodles, and I felt like they were sitting in my stomach without being digested.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Stopped up. That is the feeling. They were not made correctly, that's one thing.
Prabhupāda: (laughs) No, it was made correctly.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They were.
Prabhupāda: But it is very...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Heavy.
Prabhupāda: ...difficult to digest.
Prabhupāda: Whether they'll be able to digest?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bitter. Bitter medicine.
Prabhupāda: Bitter pill.
Mr. Dwivedi: I think there is greater room for digestion of unadulterated Gītā than for adulterated.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Mr. Dwivedi: And automatically, I do not know why, but I think they will believe it.
Prabhupāda: No, they will not take it.
Prabhupāda: All right. Then you shall begin. Jaya. (break) Daily or alternately, (makes bleating sound:) "Myaaaḥ, myaaḥ." And there is religious process that the head should be eastern side and the throat should be cut up. And when the animal dies, bifurcate, cleanse it and the skin and everything... And they have got cāpāṭi. Government subsidizes. So they cook at home the meat, and in market they purchase a cāpāṭi according to the family, one big cāpāṭi, two cāpāṭi. That's all. Our men who has eaten that cāpāṭi, they say it is very nice, very soft and digesting. Huge deserted country, but some stock, some spots, water. There are trees. They raise the cattle there. Eighty percent of the land, all desert. Or ninety percent. No, eighty. Say seventy-five. And because they have got now money, they are having big, big buildings, foreign cars, roads in the air, developing. And they're importing at any cost. From Bombay the best mango they are importing at any cost.
Prabhupāda: Very delicious and easily digested. They are living very happily. You had been there?
Rāmeśvara: No, I've just heard all the good reports.
Prabhupāda: Very happily. That is life. Eat very sumptuously nutritious food. Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Bas. What is this nonsense life, from five o'clock in the morning driving big, big trucks, "Whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh..."? Is that life? In Berkeley... Berkeley? Or where is that? Where are our temple only?
Rāmeśvara: Yes, Berkeley.
Prabhupāda: So there is a road. Whenever you go, always trucks: "Whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoo, whoo, whoo..." The docks and ports filled up with all rubbish things. People are harassed. Is that life? And they are compensating by drinking, by illicit sex and meat-eating. Soul-killing civilization. Śīta ātapa bāta bariṣaṇa. You know this song? There is a song.
Prabhupāda: Yes. It will be very digestive. You can try one day.
Upendra: Yes. Bread balls.
Prabhupāda: Put in kandi fire.
Upendra: Kandi?
Prabhupāda: This gobar, cow dung chip.
Upendra: Cow dung chip is called kandi?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yellow(?) chip. They say in Hindi, kandi.
Upendra: Kandi.
Prabhupāda: Or in Bengal it is called ghuṅṭiyā. Ghuṅṭiyā.
Prabhupāda: A man is working. Now he has got with him rice, ḍāl, āṭā. Now anywhere he can collect this dry gobar and set fire. And he has got his loṭā, and he's cooking. Very palatable and digestive.
Upendra: The balls, laktha, they're looking... I mean, when they are finished, they are looking brown or black?
Prabhupāda: No, brown. Brown and blackish spot.
Upendra: Black spots.
Prabhupāda: Then it is prepared, very... Just like loaf.
Upendra: Yeah, bread loaf.
Prabhupāda: Then put it into ghee. That according to your... Put it long time or keep it or take it, as you can digest.
Prabhupāda: It is very digestive, very palatable and suitable for me, this kind of food. Yes. It will automatically increase appetite. It is so nice.
Upendra: It all sounds very natural and wholesome, clay pot...
Prabhupāda: So you can try.
Upendra: ...cow dung fire, rice, ḍāl, bread.
Prabhupāda: So? When you are going?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Whenever you're ready, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: I am ready.
Prabhupāda: And it was not possible for me to digest. (laughs) Somebody else helped me to... I am a layman. I do not know.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How did you write it?
Prabhupāda: That somebody, Kṛṣṇa, helped me. That He manufactured.
Yaśodānandana: And these mountains, they extend to the beaches. "It is considered, according to the Bhāga..."
Prabhupāda: When I was writing, I was praying Kṛṣṇa that "I do not actually accommodate all this knowledge. Please help me." Yes. That's all right.
Prabhupāda: No, lemon. Lime. Lime.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Hot water and lime. Not lemon, lime. That acts like digestive. (break)
Prabhupāda: ...ask the list.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That list is being... Of your book distribution? That's the list? He asked yesterday of a list of books distributed, the list I read.
Prabhupāda: No, no, one list, for whom we want permanent residence, list of...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Er, that Gopāla has to compile.
Prabhupāda: He'll never compile. He does not know.
Prabhupāda: Without spices, Indians should not cook.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, they won't digest it either.
Prabhupāda: You'll be surprised how what quantity of spices toward(?) Indians. There is a Calcutta wholesale market of spices. They... Everywhere, not Calcutta... Chili, they are sold in big, big bag. We have seen in Hyderabad a spice shop, chili, large shop. And amongst the spices, the chili is most favorable.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, they like it very much. You also use it.
Prabhupāda: Yes, everyone. And there are so many spices.
Prabhupāda: "New Almanac." And... Although you'll see a fifty years old almanac, there is "New Almanac."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So for the person who picks it up, it's new.
Mr. Myer: Quite right. I should liken to Readers Digest. I bought recently the fiftieth anniversary. They have published articles from last fifty years of books almost. So...
Prabhupāda: Hm.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I tried to suggest to Mr. Myer that one thing is that before he introduces too many new things, first of all make the things that are already introduced successful.
Prabhupāda: First of all thing is that the money is unnecessarily squandered. Try to save it.
Prabhupāda: I think he is drinking also.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Must be. When they eat chicken then they have to drink to digest.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Nowadays among the gentlemen, the chicken and cake(?).
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And?
Prabhupāda: Wine cake(?). If you don't receive your friend with chicken and wine cake, then that reception is not good.
Prabhupāda: You can give me.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I remember that. It seemed to have good effects. It also helped for digestion.
Prabhupāda: So any other?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. Actually I'm right in the middle of doing these accounts, so I probably should...
Prabhupāda: (coughing) So this bank manager came. It means they are little serious.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: She has very good handwriting. "Śrī Śrī Guru-Gaurāṅga Jāyate. Dearmost and respected Śrīla Prabhupāda, please accept our repeated humble obeisances at your sanctified lotus feet. Although we are certainly unfit to offer you our prayers and offenseless chanting for your well-being, still we beg to become purified to pour the nectar of the holy name of the Lord into your eternal transcendental service by following your divine instructions. From the beginning you have instructed to serve in sincere faith in vapu or vāṇī. That is our life's work, to make each and every moment a fit receptacle for receiving your benedicting rays of mercy. Enclosed is an offering of digestive spice for your pleasure as well as two photos of Śrī Rādhā-Vana-vihārī on Candana-yātrā and Śrī Nṛsiṁha-caturdaśī. Viśākhā devī remained here to photograph for the upcoming Vedic cookery book. The program here is flourishing under your shelter and glories. We beg to remain your servants eternally. Yamunā devī dāsī and Dīnatāriṇī devī dāsī." They sent these preparations. It says, "savory," and "sweet." It looks like they made these. Very expert.
Prabhupāda: So you can give me little bit.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And they sent photographs. These Deities are superwonderful.
Prabhupāda: Very nice.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Do you want those spices now, little digestive spice?
Prabhupāda: Hm. (break)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: People will just eat themselves, eat each other.
Prabhupāda: First thing is... Māṁsa. "I'll kill you. I'll eat you." That time is coming. It has already... Russia, there is no food. They are very much proud of the so-called solutions of the world—but there is no food. Pita mata pech. (?) Therefore they are coming again to religion. They are realizing. There is a line even for flesh.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Around the block, they say.
Prabhupāda: I have seen. We wasted so much time.
Prabhupāda: (Bengali)
Indian man: (Bengali)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Did you taste that savory and digestive from Yamunā?
Prabhupāda: I do not know.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They didn't give you any?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: No, no, not the Bengalis. Anyone who cannot physically work. They eat sitting, and it is not digested, and therefore the diabetes. Diabetes is caused by eating more which is not digested. They say it is medically proven, and that's a fact. And tuberculosis is the wasting disease. As much food requires, he'll not get.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What is that about tuberculosis?
Prabhupāda: As much food he requires, he does not get.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Starving.
Prabhupāda: People do not get nowadays proper nutritious food.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Tuberculosis. And diabetes, getting the food but not digesting.
Prabhupāda: So if we remain nice, then digest, or anyone who works, brain work... That is nice.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It's ready. Yes, we prepared mung water. Praṇava's wife, she was cooking with Kulādri today. She prepared two things, mung jal and the water from spinach. So that's supposed to be very good also. Would you like to try? Praṇava said that the feature of the spinach water is that it's very good for strength and very easily digestible. That's what he said. You might like to try something of both.
Prabhupāda: There is fresh milk? Half water, half milk.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Right now would you like to have some mung water?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But it's nectar when you can digest it. You can digest it. (Bengali) We can try it, Śrīla Prabhupāda. The kavirāja seems to think that by coughing and having the cough come out, it's not bad. He says it will bring out impurities in the body. It seems to me you don't like to cough, because it disturbs your sleep. From what I understand from what Bhagatji has translated...
Prabhupāda: Complan he recommends.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's what Prabhupāda just said? (Bengali-Prabhupāda and Kavirāja)
Prabhupāda: The havoc caused, the medicine.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Havoc caused by medicine. Prabhupāda says the medicine caused havoc. (Bengali-Kavirāja and Prabhupāda) Couldn't digest it. That's the real issue. He can't even digest the medicine. (Bengali-Prabhupāda and Kavirāja) What we want is to stop the coughing, not an expectorant.
Prabhupāda: You have written him?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. The real problem is the digestion. There's no digestion. Anything you take forms mucus. Instead of forming blood, it forms mucus. You're not as warm as you were yesterday, but you're still a little warm. The rest of your body is not warm. Your head is not so warm. Your pulse is very fast. I don't know what to say, Śrīla Prabhupāda. It's certainly bewildering. I can only expect somehow Kṛṣṇa has to do something, unless Dr.Gosh with some Western-type medicine can do something.
Prabhupāda: This oil massage is very pleasing.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Yes. It's very, very good for digestion.
Prabhupāda: Sit down.
Parivrājakācārya: Śrīla Prabhupāda? This is a pre-publication copy of our first magazine in Persian language.
Prabhupāda: This is Persian language?
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Parsi, Parsi.
Brahmānanda: This is the name of it here?
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Yes. The name is "Bhakti."
Prabhupāda: I understand that you go to the royal family and talk with them for hours. So it is very good sign.
Prabhupāda: How it can if it cannot enter into the system?
Hari-śauri: It's not being digested? If you were to take something like soup, that may be more easily digestible, just the liquids. But that would have much of the goodness...
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Hari-śauri: Things like soup and vegetable juices?
Prabhupāda: Cannot take. No taste.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But it's not a fact that you cannot eat, because when we gave you the enema, there was stool. Which shows that everything you ate turned into stool or was digested. The only problem was because of lack of energy or strength, you can't pass the stool out. But it's not a fact that it didn't get digested.
Bhavānanda: Śrīla Prabhupāda, please try. Śrīla Prabhupāda, your presence on this planet is the only thing which is keeping the onslaught of the Kali-yuga from really taking effect. We have no idea even what will happen if you should leave.
Prabhupāda: It is not in my hands. Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I think Kṛṣṇa and Balarāma want you to fight, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Now I am fallen.
Bhavānanda: In the beginning, initially, when you start taking this medicine, I would think there would be some reaction within the body to something new like that before the body develops its tolerance. I don't think it's too serious at this point. (aside:) Śrīla Prabhupāda feels all hope is frustrated. The makara-dhvaja medicine is to give strength, but now he's passing stool, so all the strength he has is lost. At the same time, Śrīla Prabhupāda, you're taking a lot of liquid intake now. There has to be some stool. It's digested. You're taking almost a thousand milliliters a day, 960, 890, like that. So that's quite a large amount.
Bhakti-caru: Another thing is that this is a very strong medicine, and Vanamali Prabhu was hesitant to give it at this point because it was too strong for his...
Prabhupāda: Therefore I say stop it.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The real thing is that Prabhupāda is passing urine, and he is passing stool. So there's... What is the harm for taking vegetable juice? The main thing is that Prabhupāda has to swallow it. If he can swallow it, it's being digested to some extent, because urine is coming and stool is passing.
Prabhupāda: When stool comes, urine does not come.
| Page Title: | Digest (Conversations) |
| Compiler: | Rishab, Mayapur |
| Created: | 26 of May, 2011 |
| Totals by Section: | BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=99, Let=0 |
| No. of Quotes: | 99 |