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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2></div>
<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2></div>
<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3></div>
<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3></div>
<div id="LectureonBG12122LondonJuly181973_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="13" link="Lecture on BG 1.21-22 -- London, July 18, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 1.21-22 -- London, July 18, 1973">
<div id="LectureonBG12122LondonJuly181973_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="13" link="Lecture on BG 1.21-22 -- London, July 18, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 1.21-22 -- London, July 18, 1973">
<div class="heading">You cannot create God by imagination.</div>
<div class="heading">You cannot create God by imagination.</div>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 1.21-22 -- London, July 18, 1973|Lecture on BG 1.21-22 -- London, July 18, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This is the description of God in the śāstra. And when God came, Kṛṣṇa came on this planet, the same description. He is playing on flute, He has got the feather, peacock feather. So this painting of Kṛṣṇa is not an artist's imagination. It is exactly the form. So here is the form of the Lord. Here is the name of the Lord. Here is the activities of the Lord. This is clear conception. A sādhu knows what is God. Or sādhu cannot know. They are thinking, "God must be like this, God may be like this, He must be a very old man," because adi-puruṣa. He is the first living... In this way... So you cannot create God by imagination. That is not possible. God is God, always. You have to know simply what is God. He is never cyuta.</p></div>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 1.21-22 -- London, July 18, 1973|Lecture on BG 1.21-22 -- London, July 18, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This is the description of God in the śāstra. And when God came, Kṛṣṇa came on this planet, the same description. He is playing on flute, He has got the feather, peacock feather. So this painting of Kṛṣṇa is not an artist's imagination. It is exactly the form. So here is the form of the Lord. Here is the name of the Lord. Here is the activities of the Lord. This is clear conception. A sādhu knows what is God. Or sādhu cannot know. They are thinking, "God must be like this, God may be like this, He must be a very old man," because adi-puruṣa. He is the first living... In this way... So you cannot create God by imagination. That is not possible. God is God, always. You have to know simply what is God. He is never cyuta.</p>
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3></div>
<div id="LectureonSB611314LosAngelesJune261975_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="603" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.13-14 -- Los Angeles, June 26, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.13-14 -- Los Angeles, June 26, 1975">
<div class="heading">By mental concoction, mental speculation, we cannot create God.</div>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.13-14 -- Los Angeles, June 26, 1975|Lecture on SB 6.1.13-14 -- Los Angeles, June 26, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Intelligent man should learn what is God from the Vedic information. Don't manufacture God. Manufacture..., how we can manufacture God? That is not possible. So that is called mana-dharma. By mental concoction, mental speculation, we cannot create God. Here is the definition of God, that īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvaṁ yat kiñcid jagatyāṁ jagat ([[Vanisource:ISO 1|ISO 1]]). Idaṁ sarvam. Sarvam means whatever you see. You see the big Pacific Ocean. That is created by God. It is not that He has created one Pacific Ocean, therefore His all chemicals, hydrogen and oxygen finished. No. There are millions and trillions of Pacific Ocean floating in the sky. That is God's creation. There are millions and trillions of planets floating in the sky, and there are millions and trillions of living entites, seas, and mountains, and everything, but there is no scarcity. Not only this universe, there are millions and trillions of universes.</p>
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<div id="Philosophy_Discussions" class="sub_section" sec_index="13" parent="Lectures" text="Philosophy Discussions"><h3>Philosophy Discussions</h3></div>
<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononHegel_0" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="4" link="Philosophy Discussion on Hegel" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Hegel">
<div class="heading">God has created you. You cannot create God.</div>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Hegel|Philosophy Discussion on Hegel]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: The idea in itself is that thesis, the idea for itself is the antithesis. Now the idea...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: The first thing is that idea, anything... Idea is not God. God is substance.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Oh.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Anything nonsense idea, that is not God. God has created you. You cannot create God. And they are creating God. Just like Vivekananda mission, yata mata tata patha. As many opinion you have got, you can have your religious way. Yata mata, this is their mission, yata mata tata patha, "Whatever you are thinking, all right." Ramakrishna, he wanted to realize God from any way. And later on he wanted to realize God by the Mohammedans' way and he asked the proprietor of the temple to allow him to take meat, cow's flesh. So when he asked, the proprietor said, "Please go out. Get out." Now don't real..., I don't want the (indistinct). This philosophy also you can realize God in any way, yata mata. Now he wanted to realize in the Mohammedan's way, therefore he thought it wise that he must eat cow's flesh. These things are there.</p>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononJohnStuartMill_1" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="8" link="Philosophy Discussion on John Stuart Mill" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on John Stuart Mill">
<div class="heading">God creates you. You cannot create God.</div>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on John Stuart Mill|Philosophy Discussion on John Stuart Mill]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: He says if God were good then everything would be good.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Everything is good! That is our philosophy. When the God kills the demons, immediately flowers are showered upon Him from the sky. You have not read in...? He is good. He is always good. He has no idea of God, and still he poses himself as philosopher. God is good. Kṛṣṇa chanted, danced with others' wives at dead of night. Any man who does it, he is immediately a debauch, licentious. But still we worship that rasa-līlā. We worship that rasa-līlā. We keep the picture of God's dancing with others' wives. That is God. In all circumstances, God is good. That is worshipable. That is idea of God. Not that I put Him under my judgment: "Oh, yes, you are good, but not so good." Then I am a fool. I create my own God. "I am better than God. I can create God." No. God creates you. You cannot create God.</p>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononJohannGottliebFichte_2" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="25" link="Philosophy Discussion on Johann Gottlieb Fichte" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Johann Gottlieb Fichte">
<div class="heading">You cannot create God. Just like we have got God, Kṛṣṇa.</div>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Johann Gottlieb Fichte|Philosophy Discussion on Johann Gottlieb Fichte]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hayagrīva: But again he feels, like the others, that if you apply personality to God or if you look on God as a person you necessarily refer to someone who is limited and finite.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No. That is his mistake. He, he is thinking God is like himself, as he is finite. That is Dr. Frog.</p>
<p>Hayagrīva: Yes, he says...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That, if there is water, that water is this well. How can there be more than this? And maybe big well, that's all. But that is his conception. So this conception will not help. You cannot create God. Just like we have got God, Kṛṣṇa. As soon as there was necessity to give protection to the inhabitants of whole Vṛndāvana, the torrents of rain, and it requires a big umbrella, and immediately He lifted the whole mountain: "Come on, under this, let Me see how long this torrents of rain go on. I shall hold." That is God. He... So He was seven-years-old boy. He was not a meditation God. Nowadays that the rascals are becoming God by meditation. What is meditation God? God is always God. Does it require meditation to become God? There are all these rascals, they are preaching, "You meditate and you become God. You think that 'I am moving the sun, I am moving the earth, I am...' " This is rascaldom. But Kṛṣṇa, He is not that kind of God. He is always God. Now it is necessary, "All right. Lift this." This is God. Aiśvaryasya samagrasya vīryasya. Whole strength is there to lift the mountain. That is God.</p>
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2></div>
<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div>
<div id="MorningWalkDecember61973LosAngeles_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="91" link="Morning Walk -- December 6, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 6, 1973, Los Angeles">
<div class="heading">You cannot create God, a female, or dog.</div>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 6, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 6, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Karandhara: They're not talking about God at all. They're just talking about something they're searching for, sense gratification.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, no. Yes. "Now we shall create female as God." What power you have got? God is already God. You cannot create God, a female, or dog. You can create anything, as you..., by mental speculation, but that is not a fact.</p>
</div>
</div>
<div id="MorningWalkDecember61973LosAngeles_1" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="91" link="Morning Walk -- December 6, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 6, 1973, Los Angeles">
<div class="heading">No, no, man or woman, you cannot create God.</div>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 6, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 6, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Umāpati: They say, "Man was made in the image of God," and now women are saying, "Women are made in the image of God. Therefore God is female." And that is their logic.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, man or woman, you cannot create God. That is the first proposal. God is not your creation. You are creation of God. You cannot say, "God should be like this. God should be like that." That is nonsense. God is not under your dictation. You are under the dictation of God. That is God. If you manufacture, if you dictate, then how He is God? He's your dog. Just like a dog. He dictates. He abides by your order. He's not God. He's dog. What is the scientist says? Eh?</p>
</div>
</div>
<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div>
<div id="MorningWalkApril111974Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="60" link="Morning Walk -- April 11, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 11, 1974, Bombay">
<div class="heading">You cannot create God.</div>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 11, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 11, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Italian Man (1): When we see Kṛṣṇa in us, in our hearts, the moment Kṛṣṇa comes, the moment that the link takes place with Kṛṣṇa in our hearts...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Kṛṣṇa is always within your heart.</p>
<p>Italian Man (1): Yes. But at the moment that our soul opens itself and succeeds in putting a link... (break) I mean, I'm sorry, I mean...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He has this feature.</p>
<p>Italian Man (1): It is a matter of words. It is difficult to explain this.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. You cannot create God.</p>
<p>Italian Man (1): No, of course not.</p>
</div>
</div>
<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div>
<div id="RoomConversationwithYogaStudentMarch141975Iran_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="31" link="Room Conversation with Yoga Student -- March 14, 1975, Iran" link_text="Room Conversation with Yoga Student -- March 14, 1975, Iran">
<div class="heading">You cannot create God. God is one, already there.</div>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Yoga Student -- March 14, 1975, Iran|Room Conversation with Yoga Student -- March 14, 1975, Iran]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Indian man: Just surrender yourself first...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Indian man: And then depend upon one God or one Deity in whom you have a sort of immense belief or confidence.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, you cannot create God. God is one, already there.</p>
<p>Indian man: No, no, but then I can create in the form of Rāma as one.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is not creation.</p>
<p>Indian man: No, not creation, but I can have my own concentration in the Rāma-mūrti.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That's all right.</p>
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</div>
<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div>
<div id="MorningWalkMay31976Fiji_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="93" link="Morning Walk -- May 3, 1976, Fiji" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 3, 1976, Fiji">
<div class="heading">God cannot be created. God is God.</div>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 3, 1976, Fiji|Morning Walk -- May 3, 1976, Fiji]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: But the innocent souls, they're not surrendered to Kṛṣṇa?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He'll surrender. You teach him. Because he's innocent, he does not know. But you preach, he will become. That is our duty.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: So persons who we preach to and give the message of Kṛṣṇa consciousness to...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then let.... If anyone hears very attentively, that means he's innocent. He should be given attention. And one who says, "Why Kṛṣṇa Bhagavān? Ramakrishna Bhagavān." Oh, that's rascal, immediately. Take him, rascal. That's all. Finished. Created God. Huh? This Ramakrishna Mission has created God. God cannot be created. God is God. This is anthropomorphism. Is it not?</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Right. Yes.</p>
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</div></div>
</div></div>

Latest revision as of 13:53, 5 August 2022

Lectures

Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures

You cannot create God by imagination.
Lecture on BG 1.21-22 -- London, July 18, 1973:

This is the description of God in the śāstra. And when God came, Kṛṣṇa came on this planet, the same description. He is playing on flute, He has got the feather, peacock feather. So this painting of Kṛṣṇa is not an artist's imagination. It is exactly the form. So here is the form of the Lord. Here is the name of the Lord. Here is the activities of the Lord. This is clear conception. A sādhu knows what is God. Or sādhu cannot know. They are thinking, "God must be like this, God may be like this, He must be a very old man," because adi-puruṣa. He is the first living... In this way... So you cannot create God by imagination. That is not possible. God is God, always. You have to know simply what is God. He is never cyuta.

Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures

By mental concoction, mental speculation, we cannot create God.
Lecture on SB 6.1.13-14 -- Los Angeles, June 26, 1975:

Intelligent man should learn what is God from the Vedic information. Don't manufacture God. Manufacture..., how we can manufacture God? That is not possible. So that is called mana-dharma. By mental concoction, mental speculation, we cannot create God. Here is the definition of God, that īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvaṁ yat kiñcid jagatyāṁ jagat (ISO 1). Idaṁ sarvam. Sarvam means whatever you see. You see the big Pacific Ocean. That is created by God. It is not that He has created one Pacific Ocean, therefore His all chemicals, hydrogen and oxygen finished. No. There are millions and trillions of Pacific Ocean floating in the sky. That is God's creation. There are millions and trillions of planets floating in the sky, and there are millions and trillions of living entites, seas, and mountains, and everything, but there is no scarcity. Not only this universe, there are millions and trillions of universes.

Philosophy Discussions

God has created you. You cannot create God.
Philosophy Discussion on Hegel:

Śyāmasundara: The idea in itself is that thesis, the idea for itself is the antithesis. Now the idea...

Prabhupāda: The first thing is that idea, anything... Idea is not God. God is substance.

Śyāmasundara: Oh.

Prabhupāda: Anything nonsense idea, that is not God. God has created you. You cannot create God. And they are creating God. Just like Vivekananda mission, yata mata tata patha. As many opinion you have got, you can have your religious way. Yata mata, this is their mission, yata mata tata patha, "Whatever you are thinking, all right." Ramakrishna, he wanted to realize God from any way. And later on he wanted to realize God by the Mohammedans' way and he asked the proprietor of the temple to allow him to take meat, cow's flesh. So when he asked, the proprietor said, "Please go out. Get out." Now don't real..., I don't want the (indistinct). This philosophy also you can realize God in any way, yata mata. Now he wanted to realize in the Mohammedan's way, therefore he thought it wise that he must eat cow's flesh. These things are there.

God creates you. You cannot create God.
Philosophy Discussion on John Stuart Mill:

Śyāmasundara: He says if God were good then everything would be good.

Prabhupāda: Everything is good! That is our philosophy. When the God kills the demons, immediately flowers are showered upon Him from the sky. You have not read in...? He is good. He is always good. He has no idea of God, and still he poses himself as philosopher. God is good. Kṛṣṇa chanted, danced with others' wives at dead of night. Any man who does it, he is immediately a debauch, licentious. But still we worship that rasa-līlā. We worship that rasa-līlā. We keep the picture of God's dancing with others' wives. That is God. In all circumstances, God is good. That is worshipable. That is idea of God. Not that I put Him under my judgment: "Oh, yes, you are good, but not so good." Then I am a fool. I create my own God. "I am better than God. I can create God." No. God creates you. You cannot create God.

You cannot create God. Just like we have got God, Kṛṣṇa.
Philosophy Discussion on Johann Gottlieb Fichte:

Hayagrīva: But again he feels, like the others, that if you apply personality to God or if you look on God as a person you necessarily refer to someone who is limited and finite.

Prabhupāda: No. That is his mistake. He, he is thinking God is like himself, as he is finite. That is Dr. Frog.

Hayagrīva: Yes, he says...

Prabhupāda: That, if there is water, that water is this well. How can there be more than this? And maybe big well, that's all. But that is his conception. So this conception will not help. You cannot create God. Just like we have got God, Kṛṣṇa. As soon as there was necessity to give protection to the inhabitants of whole Vṛndāvana, the torrents of rain, and it requires a big umbrella, and immediately He lifted the whole mountain: "Come on, under this, let Me see how long this torrents of rain go on. I shall hold." That is God. He... So He was seven-years-old boy. He was not a meditation God. Nowadays that the rascals are becoming God by meditation. What is meditation God? God is always God. Does it require meditation to become God? There are all these rascals, they are preaching, "You meditate and you become God. You think that 'I am moving the sun, I am moving the earth, I am...' " This is rascaldom. But Kṛṣṇa, He is not that kind of God. He is always God. Now it is necessary, "All right. Lift this." This is God. Aiśvaryasya samagrasya vīryasya. Whole strength is there to lift the mountain. That is God.

Conversations and Morning Walks

1973 Conversations and Morning Walks

You cannot create God, a female, or dog.
Morning Walk -- December 6, 1973, Los Angeles:

Karandhara: They're not talking about God at all. They're just talking about something they're searching for, sense gratification.

Prabhupāda: No, no, no. Yes. "Now we shall create female as God." What power you have got? God is already God. You cannot create God, a female, or dog. You can create anything, as you..., by mental speculation, but that is not a fact.

No, no, man or woman, you cannot create God.
Morning Walk -- December 6, 1973, Los Angeles:

Umāpati: They say, "Man was made in the image of God," and now women are saying, "Women are made in the image of God. Therefore God is female." And that is their logic.

Prabhupāda: No, no, man or woman, you cannot create God. That is the first proposal. God is not your creation. You are creation of God. You cannot say, "God should be like this. God should be like that." That is nonsense. God is not under your dictation. You are under the dictation of God. That is God. If you manufacture, if you dictate, then how He is God? He's your dog. Just like a dog. He dictates. He abides by your order. He's not God. He's dog. What is the scientist says? Eh?

1974 Conversations and Morning Walks

You cannot create God.
Morning Walk -- April 11, 1974, Bombay:

Italian Man (1): When we see Kṛṣṇa in us, in our hearts, the moment Kṛṣṇa comes, the moment that the link takes place with Kṛṣṇa in our hearts...

Prabhupāda: Yes. Kṛṣṇa is always within your heart.

Italian Man (1): Yes. But at the moment that our soul opens itself and succeeds in putting a link... (break) I mean, I'm sorry, I mean...

Prabhupāda: He has this feature.

Italian Man (1): It is a matter of words. It is difficult to explain this.

Prabhupāda: Yes. You cannot create God.

Italian Man (1): No, of course not.

1975 Conversations and Morning Walks

You cannot create God. God is one, already there.
Room Conversation with Yoga Student -- March 14, 1975, Iran:

Indian man: Just surrender yourself first...

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Indian man: And then depend upon one God or one Deity in whom you have a sort of immense belief or confidence.

Prabhupāda: No, you cannot create God. God is one, already there.

Indian man: No, no, but then I can create in the form of Rāma as one.

Prabhupāda: That is not creation.

Indian man: No, not creation, but I can have my own concentration in the Rāma-mūrti.

Prabhupāda: That's all right.

1976 Conversations and Morning Walks

God cannot be created. God is God.
Morning Walk -- May 3, 1976, Fiji:

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: But the innocent souls, they're not surrendered to Kṛṣṇa?

Prabhupāda: He'll surrender. You teach him. Because he's innocent, he does not know. But you preach, he will become. That is our duty.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: So persons who we preach to and give the message of Kṛṣṇa consciousness to...

Prabhupāda: Then let.... If anyone hears very attentively, that means he's innocent. He should be given attention. And one who says, "Why Kṛṣṇa Bhagavān? Ramakrishna Bhagavān." Oh, that's rascal, immediately. Take him, rascal. That's all. Finished. Created God. Huh? This Ramakrishna Mission has created God. God cannot be created. God is God. This is anthropomorphism. Is it not?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Right. Yes.