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<div class="heading">You can cheat, but it will not be effective. Just see our Gauḍīya Maṭha. Everyone wanted to become guru, and a small temple and "guru." What kind of guru? No publication, no preaching, simply bring some foodstuff. My Guru Mahārāja used to say, "Joint mess," a place for eating and sleeping.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- April 22, 1977, Bombay|Room Conversation -- April 22, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">
Prabhupāda: What is the use of producing some rascal ''guru''?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, I have studied myself and all of your disciples, and it's clear fact that we are all conditioned souls, so we cannot be ''guru''. Maybe one day it may be possible . . .

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: . . . but not now.

Prabhupāda: Yes. I shall choose some ''guru''. I shall say, "Now you become ''ācārya''. You become authorized." I am waiting for that. You become all ''ācārya''. I retire completely. But the training must be complete.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The process of purification must be there.

Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, must be there. Caitanya Mahāprabhu wants that. ''Āmāra ājñāya guru hañā ''([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 7.128|CC Madhya 7.128]]). "You become ''guru''." (laughs) But be qualified. Little thing, strictly follower . . .

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Not rubber stamp.

Prabhupāda: Then you'll not be effective. You can cheat, but it will not be effective. Just see our Gauḍīya Maṭha. Everyone wanted to become'' guru'', and a small temple and "''guru''." What kind of ''guru''? No publication, no preaching, simply bring some foodstuff . . . my Guru Mahārāja used to say: "Joint mess," a place for eating and sleeping. ''Khaoa daoar adda khana'': "Joint mess." He said this.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That word "mess," by that word he meant eating, messing, eating?

Prabhupāda: Yes. Messing, there is a system. Some clerks, they make a small cooperative hotel. In India there are many.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That I see in South India sometimes . . . in places like hotels I see.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Men who work, they all come . . .

Prabhupāda: Cooperative effort.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So he called that a joint mess, and he said that some of the disciples were doing like that.

Prabhupāda: He knew that. What is the use?</p>
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