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<div id="LectureonSB615662SuratJanuary31971atAdubhaiPatelsHouse_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="693" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.56-62 -- Surat, January 3, 1971, at Adubhai Patel's House" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.56-62 -- Surat, January 3, 1971, at Adubhai Patel's House">
<div class="heading">Dhruva Mahārāja went to gain his father's kingdom. That is arthārthī. Ārtaḥ arthārthī. Catur-vidhā bhajante mām. Four kinds of men goes to worship Viṣṇu: ārta, those who are distressed; arthārthī, those who are in need of money or material benefit; jijñāsu, those who are inquisitive; and jñānī—these four kinds. Out of these, jijñāsu and jñānī are better than the ārta and arthārthī, the distressed and need of money. So even the jñānī and jijñāsu, they are not on the pure devotional service because pure devotional service is beyond jñāna also.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.56-62 -- Surat, January 3, 1971, at Adubhai Patel's House|Lecture on SB 6.1.56-62 -- Surat, January 3, 1971, at Adubhai Patel's House]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Devotee (1): It says in the Bhagavad-gītā that when, if one performs devotional service, then his result is never lost. Then how was it possible for Ajāmila to lose all his devotional service to Viṣṇu by associating with a prostitute?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What is that question? I do not follow.</p>
<p>Devotee (1): It says in the Bhagavad-gītā that if one makes a little bit of endeavor on the path of devotional service...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Devotee (1): ...then the result is never lost. So then how was it possible for Ajāmila to lose his devotional...?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He was not in devotional service.</p>
<p>Devotee (1): He was not serving Viṣṇu?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He was trained... Viṣṇu worship is not always devotional service. Caitanya Mahāprabhu, when He was presented by Rāmānanda Rāya about Viṣṇu worship, He said, "No, no. This is not the right description. You go further." You'll find in the... Yes. "You go further." Eho bāhya āge kaha āra. Because unless they understand what Viṣṇu..., simple official Viṣṇu worship will not help. One has to become real devotee. Anyābhilāṣitā... Generally goes to Viṣṇu for asking something, or any other demigod, they go. People are very much addicted to material enjoyment. Either he goes to śuddha-bhakti... This bhakti means śuddha-bhakti. Anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyam (Brs. 1.1.11). That, that is transcendental platform. There are viddha-bhakti. Viddha-bhakti. So one who goes to worship Viṣṇu for some material bene... Just like Dhruva Mahārāja went. That was bhakti, but that was viddha-bhakti, adulterated. Dhruva Mahārāja went to gain his father's kingdom. That is arthārthī. Ārtaḥ arthārthī. Catur-vidhā bhajante mām. Four kinds of men goes to worship Viṣṇu: ārta, those who are distressed; arthārthī, those who are in need of money or material benefit; jijñāsu, those who are inquisitive; and jñānī—these four kinds. Out of these, jijñāsu and jñānī are better than the ārta and arthārthī, the distressed and need of money. So even the jñānī and jijñāsu, they are not on the pure devotional service because pure devotional service is beyond jñāna also. Jñāna-karmādy-anāvṛtam ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 19.167|CC Madhya 19.167]]). Just like gopīs, they did not try to understand Kṛṣṇa by jñāna, whether Kṛṣṇa is Bhagavān. No. They simply automatically developed—not automatically; by their previous good activities—acute love for Kṛṣṇa. They never tried to understand Kṛṣṇa, whether He is God. When Uddhava tried to preach before them about jñāna they did not hear it very attentively. They simply absorbed in thought of Kṛṣṇa. That is the perfection of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Never mind Kṛṣṇa worship, but one loves Kṛṣṇa. And that is wanted. That is spontaneous. Real love means that. A lover does not consider what he is, the opposite party, what he is, whether he is rich man, whether he is educated man or educated... There is no such consideration. Love is spontaneous. That is an example also. Similarly, love for Kṛṣṇa, that should be simply spontaneous, without any consideration. Āśliṣya vā pāda-ratāṁ pinaṣṭu mām: ([[Vanisource:CC Antya 20.47|CC Antya 20.47]]) "Either You trample down under Your feet or embrace me, still, I love You." That is love, that kind of love. Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa...</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: Prabhupāda?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: If someone is engaged in devotional service and he commits an offense at the feet of a pure devotee, whatever he has done up until that time is not lost? Or he, in his next life he gets...?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, if he thinks that he has committed offense, he should ask pardon, excuse, that's all.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: What if he just goes on and he never asks pardon? Is he finished in...?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then that he should. That he should. That he should.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: He should ask.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. "Please excuse me. I have done..."</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: But suppose he doesn't ask and he just...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is obstinacy. Why should he not? If he thinks that he has committed offense, why should he not ask excuse?</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: Well, he may not think so. He may just find himself falling down.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then fallen down, what can be done? To save from this fallen down she should ask or he should ask, "Please excuse me. I have done..." That's all. Finish it. And a devotee is always prepared to excuse. Why should he not ask? Yes. One should be very cautious, and if it happens so, then he should ask to be excused. That's all. Yes.</p>
<p>Devotee (2): That's the cause of all falldown, committing offenses at the feet of a pure devotee?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: There are many causes. One should be cautious, that's all. Therefore one should hear, one should be cautious, and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa will help. We should be cautious, but if something is done unwillingly, that is excused by Kṛṣṇa. That is another thing. We are offending in every moment, but when it is within our consciousness we should take some precaution that "This should not be done. If I have done, ask excuse." That's all. Finish.</p>
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