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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- November 5, 1977, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- November 5, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Pañca-draviḍa: Their new temple is very nicely decorated, with arches and everything. Rādhā-Giridhārī.</p>
 
<p>Jayādvaita: The president is Guṇa-grāhī Prabhu. He's been a devotee for a long time. The management is also very nicely going on. (break) You sent Bhavānanda there many years ago when they were in Brooklyn and ordered him to make the devotees happy. And ever since then, they've been peaceful... (indistinct) Even before that. I remember when I first came to New York, when the storefront was there. I came on Sunday, and there were so many different preparations. Haṁsadūta Mahārāja was cooking. And so many different preparations. And after taking that feast I decided that I would not leave—"This is too nice." So they're going on, still very opulent, sumptuous prasādam. And people are deciding that "Oh, this is very nice. Let us not leave. Let us go on taking prasādam." And in the restaurant very respectable people come. (pause)</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: You read some more.</p>
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<p>Jayādvaita: Yes, with great pleasure. Teachings of Lord Kapiladeva.</p>
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<p>Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa.</p>
Prabhupāda: . . . depend on you. For me, wherever I am kept, I shall remain. This is the position.
<p>Jayādvaita: Kṛṣṇa book. Any particular part that you'd like to hear, Śrīla Prabhupāda?</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Anywhere. From Second Part.</p>
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Wherever you are kept?
<p>Jayādvaita: Second Volume. "Akrūra's Arrival in Vṛndāvana." Is that all right?</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm.</p>
Prabhupāda: Wherever you kept, keep, I shall remain. The institution depends on the GBC.
<p>Jayādvaita: "Nārada Muni did not mention Kṛṣṇa's killing Vyomāsura..." (break)</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: ...depend on you. For me, wherever I am kept, I shall remain. This is the position.</p>
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. I think that the time that you always were looking forward to—of the GBC managing things—has come, and that if you can survive, then you can simply be free to translate . . .
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Wherever you are kept?</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Wherever you kept, keep, I shall remain. The institution depends on the GBC.</p>
Prabhupāda: Yes.
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. I think that the time that you always were looking forward to—of the GBC managing things—has come, and that if you can survive, then you can simply be free to translate...</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: . . . chant.
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...chant.</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: If I am sane, then I'll do. But in this condition... Ah, ha... Hm. What is to be done now?</p>
Prabhupāda: If I am sane, then I'll do. But in this condition . . . Ah, ha . . . Hmm. What is to be done now?
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What is to be done now? In regard to that Trust?</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: No, Trust or whatever. I have freed myself from everything.</p>
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What is to be done now? In regard to that Trust?
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In regard to what were you asking?</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: In this condition.</p>
Prabhupāda: No, Trust or whatever. I have freed myself from everything.
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, what we have to do is carry on with this medicine, medical treatment, and let the kavirāja come. Then, when he comes from Calcutta, he'll review everything that's happened and he'll see what your condition is like. And if he feels that the liver and kidney have been cleared up a little bit, then he'll begin to give medicine for giving you strength. And we will make him stay here until you get sufficient strength. And if you do get sufficient strength, which means his medicine is working, then he can take you to Māyāpura. And after some days, if he gives you medicine for strength and you don't get any strength, then there's no reason to leave Vṛndāvana. He may go back, but we will stay here. I think that should be our course of action. We certainly... I've looked just now with Upendra, and pretty much, you've increased by about double what you drink and you've increased by about double the amount of urine. But that's not going to give you strength very much. And the kavirāja has also said that he's not giving any medicine for giving strength at this time. Mostly he's giving medicine which should help the kidney and liver. I can't see inside your body to know if your kidney and liver are better. That he has to say. And if he says that it is getting better, then he can give the medicine for giving strength. And that's something that we can notice. Once he gives the medicine for strength, we'll be able to see if you're actually getting strength. After five or six days, if you're not getting any strength, then we'll know that the medicine is not effective. If it is effective, then we can go with him. You'll have more strength and we can go to Māyāpura. He can take us there and we'll carry on. And if for some reason it's not effective, then we have to trust simply in kṛṣṇa-nāma. That we're doing anyway, but that's... We'll have to do exclusively at that point.</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm. Get on...</p>
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In regard to what were you asking?
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Does that sound right, Śrīla Prabhupāda?</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: There is no alternative.</p>
Prabhupāda: In this condition.
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. There's no alternative. There's no question of going to any more kavirājas. This is the last one. He's the best we've found, and if his medicine doesn't work, then let us simply depend on Kṛṣṇa.</p>
 
<p>Bhavānanda: That was fifty and clear, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Fifty and clear.</p>
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, what we have to do is carry on with this medicine, medical treatment, and let the kavirāja come. Then, when he comes from Calcutta, he'll review everything that's happened and he'll see what your condition is like. And if he feels that the liver and kidney have been cleared up a little bit, then he'll begin to give medicine for giving you strength. And we will make him stay here until you get sufficient strength. And if you do get sufficient strength, which means his medicine is working, then he can take you to Māyāpur. And after some days, if he gives you medicine for strength and you don't get any strength, then there's no reason to leave Vṛndāvana. He may go back, but we will stay here. I think that should be our course of action. We certainly . . . I've looked just now with Upendra, and pretty much, you've increased by about double what you drink, and you've increased by about double the amount of urine. So . . . But that's not going to give you strength very much. And the kavirāja has also said that he's not giving any medicine for giving strength at this time. Mostly he's giving medicine which should help the kidney and liver. I can't see inside your body to know if your kidney and liver are better. That he has to say. And if he says that it is getting better, then he can give the medicine for giving strength. And that's something that we can notice. Once he gives the medicine for strength, we'll be able to see if you're actually getting strength. After five or six days, if you're not getting any strength, then we'll know that the medicine is not effective. If it is effective, then we can go with him. You'll have more strength and we can go to Māyāpur. He can take us there and we'll carry on. And if for some reason it's not effective, then we have to trust simply in kṛṣṇa-nāma. That we're doing anyway, but that's . . . We'll have to do exclusively at that point.
<p>Prabhupāda: Bhavānanda, you are not feeling well?</p>
<p>Bhavānanda: No, now I'm feeling better, Śrīla Prabhupāda.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We're all praying to take some disease from you. We're all praying to take over your disease onto us.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is not desirable.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Not desirable?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: (laughs) If you all become diseased.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, but you single-handedly can spread this movement better than all of us together.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is the problem. You are all become stationed to me.(?) Who will work?</p>
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Wherever you kept, keep, I shall remain. The institution depends on the GBC.


Room Conversation -- November 5, 1977, Vrndavana:

Prabhupāda: . . . depend on you. For me, wherever I am kept, I shall remain. This is the position.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Wherever you are kept?

Prabhupāda: Wherever you kept, keep, I shall remain. The institution depends on the GBC.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. I think that the time that you always were looking forward to—of the GBC managing things—has come, and that if you can survive, then you can simply be free to translate . . .

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: . . . chant.

Prabhupāda: If I am sane, then I'll do. But in this condition . . . Ah, ha . . . Hmm. What is to be done now?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What is to be done now? In regard to that Trust?

Prabhupāda: No, Trust or whatever. I have freed myself from everything.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In regard to what were you asking?

Prabhupāda: In this condition.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, what we have to do is carry on with this medicine, medical treatment, and let the kavirāja come. Then, when he comes from Calcutta, he'll review everything that's happened and he'll see what your condition is like. And if he feels that the liver and kidney have been cleared up a little bit, then he'll begin to give medicine for giving you strength. And we will make him stay here until you get sufficient strength. And if you do get sufficient strength, which means his medicine is working, then he can take you to Māyāpur. And after some days, if he gives you medicine for strength and you don't get any strength, then there's no reason to leave Vṛndāvana. He may go back, but we will stay here. I think that should be our course of action. We certainly . . . I've looked just now with Upendra, and pretty much, you've increased by about double what you drink, and you've increased by about double the amount of urine. So . . . But that's not going to give you strength very much. And the kavirāja has also said that he's not giving any medicine for giving strength at this time. Mostly he's giving medicine which should help the kidney and liver. I can't see inside your body to know if your kidney and liver are better. That he has to say. And if he says that it is getting better, then he can give the medicine for giving strength. And that's something that we can notice. Once he gives the medicine for strength, we'll be able to see if you're actually getting strength. After five or six days, if you're not getting any strength, then we'll know that the medicine is not effective. If it is effective, then we can go with him. You'll have more strength and we can go to Māyāpur. He can take us there and we'll carry on. And if for some reason it's not effective, then we have to trust simply in kṛṣṇa-nāma. That we're doing anyway, but that's . . . We'll have to do exclusively at that point.