Mālatī: These people who took him, they think he is a person.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Mālatī: They treat him like person.
Prabhupāda: He's a person. Dog is a person. Why imperson?
Mālatī: Pardon?
Prabhupāda: Dog is person also.
Mālatī: Yes, but they treat him like I would... They... Human person. They treat him like... They worship him.
Prabhupāda: Yes, but what is the difference between human person and dog person? No difference. So far eating, sleeping, mating, and defending, they are equal. Human personality is there when he's Kṛṣṇa conscious. Otherwise he's an animal, as good as dog.
Mālatī: So these... If you do not take to Kṛṣṇa conscious, you are a dog.
Prabhupāda: Yes, equal to dog. Because he has no other conception except those four principles, eating, sleeping, mating and defending. That is there in the animals. Don't you see the swans? They are enjoying sex life. So what is the difference between man... A man also does like that. So long one is not above these four principles of animal demands, he's as good as animal. To meet animal demands in a polished way is not civilization. One must be above the animal demands. That is civilization. You have read that poetry, "Alexander and the Robber"? Have you read?