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<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="GardenConversationwithMahadevasMotherandJesuitPriestJuly251973London_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="52" link="Garden Conversation with Mahadeva's Mother and Jesuit Priest -- July 25, 1973, London" link_text="Garden Conversation with Mahadeva's Mother and Jesuit Priest -- July 25, 1973, London">
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<div class="heading">Self-supporting. We are self-supporting. There must be divisions of work. Not that everyone has to learn everything.</div>
<div class="heading">Self-supporting. We are self-supporting. There must be divisions of work. Not that everyone has to learn everything.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Garden Conversation with Mahadeva's Mother and Jesuit Priest -- July 25, 1973, London|Garden Conversation with Mahadeva's Mother and Jesuit Priest -- July 25, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: You are asking us "Why you are not taking medical education?" Why we shall take?</p>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Garden Conversation with Mahadeva's Mother and Jesuit Priest -- July 25, 1973, London|Garden Conversation with Mahadeva's Mother and Jesuit Priest -- July 25, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: You are asking us "Why you are not taking medical education?" Why we shall take?</p>
<p>Mother: Because if everybody...</p>
<p>Mother: Because if everybody...</p>
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<p>Prabhupāda: Let me engage my time for understanding God.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Let me engage my time for understanding God.</p>
<p>Mother: You should be self-supporting in that way.</p>
<p>Mother: You should be self-supporting in that way.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Self-supporting. We are self-supporting. Just like... I have given the example. The body, the social body... You can take of this body. There are four divisions: the head division, the arm division, the belly division, and the leg division. So belly is doing the work of the belly, stomach. The leg is walking. The hand is doing, defending, and the head and the brain is giving instruction to everyone. This is cooperation. So that is Vedic system of civilization. Brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra. There must be divisions of work. Not that everyone has to learn everything.</p></div>
<p>Prabhupāda: Self-supporting. We are self-supporting. Just like... I have given the example. The body, the social body... You can take of this body. There are four divisions: the head division, the arm division, the belly division, and the leg division. So belly is doing the work of the belly, stomach. The leg is walking. The hand is doing, defending, and the head and the brain is giving instruction to everyone. This is cooperation. So that is Vedic system of civilization. Brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra. There must be divisions of work. Not that everyone has to learn everything.</p>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkJune211976Toronto_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="153" link="Morning Walk -- June 21, 1976, Toronto" link_text="Morning Walk -- June 21, 1976, Toronto">
<div id="MorningWalkJune211976Toronto_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="153" link="Morning Walk -- June 21, 1976, Toronto" link_text="Morning Walk -- June 21, 1976, Toronto">
<div class="heading">If anyone is rendering service to the Lord, he can live. But not for sense gratification.</div>
<div class="heading">If anyone is rendering service to the Lord, he can live. But not for sense gratification.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 21, 1976, Toronto|Morning Walk -- June 21, 1976, Toronto]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Indian man (5): Śrīla Prabhupāda, is it better for gṛhasthas to be self-supporting and living outside the temple? Like somebody working all day and following the regulative principles?</p>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 21, 1976, Toronto|Morning Walk -- June 21, 1976, Toronto]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Indian man (5): Śrīla Prabhupāda, is it better for gṛhasthas to be self-supporting and living outside the temple? Like somebody working all day and following the regulative principles?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Temple is meant for rendering service to the Lord. So if anyone is rendering service to the Lord, he can live. But not for sense gratification. Those gṛhasthas who still have desire for sense gratification, they may live outside.</p></div>
<p>Prabhupāda: Temple is meant for rendering service to the Lord. So if anyone is rendering service to the Lord, he can live. But not for sense gratification. Those gṛhasthas who still have desire for sense gratification, they may live outside.</p>
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<div id="1970_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="5" parent="Correspondence" text="1970 Correspondence"><h3>1970 Correspondence</h3>
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<div id="LettertoTamalaKrsnaLosAngeles8February1970_0" class="quote" parent="1970_Correspondence" book="Let" index="84" link="Letter to Tamala Krsna -- Los Angeles 8 February, 1970" link_text="Letter to Tamala Krsna -- Los Angeles 8 February, 1970">
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<div class="heading">I think it is proper that you should devote your time for all these three centers and train the local management for being self-supporting.</div>
<div class="heading">I think it is proper that you should devote your time for all these three centers and train the local management for being self-supporting.
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Tamala Krsna -- Los Angeles 8 February, 1970|Letter to Tamala Krsna -- Los Angeles 8 February, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You have written to say that you cannot go to Hamburg or Paris to organize their activities, but actually you were left in London for the purpose of organizing these three centers. If you stick only to London Temple then our former scheme will not be executed. I think, it is proper that you should devote your time for all these three centers and train the local management for being self-supporting. As you are helping London Temple, similarly you should help the Hamburg and Paris Temples also. I think that was our original plan, and you should not change the same.</p></div>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Tamala Krsna -- Los Angeles 8 February, 1970|Letter to Tamala Krsna -- Los Angeles 8 February, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You have written to say that you cannot go to Hamburg or Paris to organize their activities, but actually you were left in London for the purpose of organizing these three centers. If you stick only to London Temple then our former scheme will not be executed. I think, it is proper that you should devote your time for all these three centers and train the local management for being self-supporting. As you are helping London Temple, similarly you should help the Hamburg and Paris Temples also. I think that was our original plan, and you should not change the same.</p>
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<div id="1972_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Correspondence" text="1972 Correspondence"><h3>1972 Correspondence</h3>
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<div id="LettertoAllTemplePresidentsTokyo22April1972_0" class="quote" parent="1972_Correspondence" book="Let" index="187" link="Letter to All Temple Presidents -- Tokyo 22 April, 1972" link_text="Letter to All Temple Presidents -- Tokyo 22 April, 1972">
<div class="heading">The zonal secretaries duty is to see that the spiritual principles are being upheld very nicely in all the Temples of his zone. Otherwise each Temple shall be independent and self-supporting.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to All Temple Presidents -- Tokyo 22 April, 1972|Letter to All Temple Presidents -- Tokyo 22 April, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The formula for ISKCON organization is very simple and can be understood by everyone. The world is divided into twelve zones. For each zone there is one zonal secretary appointed by Srila Prabhupada. The zonal secretaries duty is to see that the spiritual principles are being upheld very nicely in all the Temples of his zone. Otherwise each Temple shall be independent and self-supporting. Let every Temple President work according to his own capacity to improve the Krishna Consciousness of his center. So far the practical management is concerned, that is required, but not that we should become too much absorbed in fancy organization. Our business is spiritual life, so whatever organization needs to be done, the Presidents may handle and take advice and assistance from their GBC representative. In this way let the Societies work go on and everyone increase their service at their own creative rate.</p>
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<div id="LettertoGirirajaLosAngeles24May1972_1" class="quote" parent="1972_Correspondence" book="Let" index="278" link="Letter to Giriraja -- Los Angeles 24 May, 1972" link_text="Letter to Giriraja -- Los Angeles 24 May, 1972">
<div class="heading">We can become self-supporting by distributing our books in Bombay and in India. So far the temples in India are concerned, the independent and self supporting method does not apply in India.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Giriraja -- Los Angeles 24 May, 1972|Letter to Giriraja -- Los Angeles 24 May, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">I am glad to see that all of the other programs are going on nicely, especially that the deities are being cared for again properly. Now you give our ladies full facilities and help them by giving them money and other things wherever required by them so that our deity program will not be lacking. I am especially also engladdened by your report of book distribution there in Bombay. You can distribute our men there to other centers—to Gurudasa and Bhavananda—if they shall require our help. Yes, we can become self-supporting in this way by distributing our books in Bombay and in India in general. I shall be interested to hear the result of your experiment whether to lower the prices on books.</p>
<p>So far the temples in India are concerned, the independent and self supporting method does not apply in India. In India Bombay is the headquarters and all other centers shall send their funds for centralizing in Bombay. In return you shall supply everyone with enough books and you shall pay construction bills as required by them. I had asked you in one letter previous if you are interested in accepting the GBC post for India and central Asia. I have not yet heard from you in this connection but I shall be glad to hear your opinion.</p>
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Conversations and Morning Walks

1973 Conversations and Morning Walks

Self-supporting. We are self-supporting. There must be divisions of work. Not that everyone has to learn everything.
Garden Conversation with Mahadeva's Mother and Jesuit Priest -- July 25, 1973, London:

Prabhupāda: You are asking us "Why you are not taking medical education?" Why we shall take?

Mother: Because if everybody...

Prabhupāda: No, there is no necessity. If the... If I can pay, I can get the help of a medical man, why should I waste my time in that way? Let me...

Mother: You think? Ah, but you should be self-supporting. You should be...

Prabhupāda: Let me engage my time for understanding God.

Mother: You should be self-supporting in that way.

Prabhupāda: Self-supporting. We are self-supporting. Just like... I have given the example. The body, the social body... You can take of this body. There are four divisions: the head division, the arm division, the belly division, and the leg division. So belly is doing the work of the belly, stomach. The leg is walking. The hand is doing, defending, and the head and the brain is giving instruction to everyone. This is cooperation. So that is Vedic system of civilization. Brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra. There must be divisions of work. Not that everyone has to learn everything.

1976 Conversations and Morning Walks

If anyone is rendering service to the Lord, he can live. But not for sense gratification.
Morning Walk -- June 21, 1976, Toronto:

Indian man (5): Śrīla Prabhupāda, is it better for gṛhasthas to be self-supporting and living outside the temple? Like somebody working all day and following the regulative principles?

Prabhupāda: Temple is meant for rendering service to the Lord. So if anyone is rendering service to the Lord, he can live. But not for sense gratification. Those gṛhasthas who still have desire for sense gratification, they may live outside.

Correspondence

1970 Correspondence

I think it is proper that you should devote your time for all these three centers and train the local management for being self-supporting.
Letter to Tamala Krsna -- Los Angeles 8 February, 1970:

You have written to say that you cannot go to Hamburg or Paris to organize their activities, but actually you were left in London for the purpose of organizing these three centers. If you stick only to London Temple then our former scheme will not be executed. I think, it is proper that you should devote your time for all these three centers and train the local management for being self-supporting. As you are helping London Temple, similarly you should help the Hamburg and Paris Temples also. I think that was our original plan, and you should not change the same.

1972 Correspondence

The zonal secretaries duty is to see that the spiritual principles are being upheld very nicely in all the Temples of his zone. Otherwise each Temple shall be independent and self-supporting.
Letter to All Temple Presidents -- Tokyo 22 April, 1972:

The formula for ISKCON organization is very simple and can be understood by everyone. The world is divided into twelve zones. For each zone there is one zonal secretary appointed by Srila Prabhupada. The zonal secretaries duty is to see that the spiritual principles are being upheld very nicely in all the Temples of his zone. Otherwise each Temple shall be independent and self-supporting. Let every Temple President work according to his own capacity to improve the Krishna Consciousness of his center. So far the practical management is concerned, that is required, but not that we should become too much absorbed in fancy organization. Our business is spiritual life, so whatever organization needs to be done, the Presidents may handle and take advice and assistance from their GBC representative. In this way let the Societies work go on and everyone increase their service at their own creative rate.

We can become self-supporting by distributing our books in Bombay and in India. So far the temples in India are concerned, the independent and self supporting method does not apply in India.
Letter to Giriraja -- Los Angeles 24 May, 1972:

I am glad to see that all of the other programs are going on nicely, especially that the deities are being cared for again properly. Now you give our ladies full facilities and help them by giving them money and other things wherever required by them so that our deity program will not be lacking. I am especially also engladdened by your report of book distribution there in Bombay. You can distribute our men there to other centers—to Gurudasa and Bhavananda—if they shall require our help. Yes, we can become self-supporting in this way by distributing our books in Bombay and in India in general. I shall be interested to hear the result of your experiment whether to lower the prices on books.

So far the temples in India are concerned, the independent and self supporting method does not apply in India. In India Bombay is the headquarters and all other centers shall send their funds for centralizing in Bombay. In return you shall supply everyone with enough books and you shall pay construction bills as required by them. I had asked you in one letter previous if you are interested in accepting the GBC post for India and central Asia. I have not yet heard from you in this connection but I shall be glad to hear your opinion.