Prabhupāda: I am imperfect. That's all right. But I know what is perfection.
Guest (1): I cannot see that. (laughs)
Prabhupāda: No. Don't laugh. Suppose you are here. You have to go to London. If you have purchased the ticket for London and if you are sure that you have got an aeroplane, so even you have not gone to reach London, but you are sure that you are going to London.
Guest (1): Yes. I can be sure. I understand that, that you are sure. I have no doubt about that. But how can your security...
Prabhupāda: No, no, if I have understood that my destination is London—I am going to London—then if I feel secure, that is my happiness.
Guest (1): So you are completely happy.
Prabhupāda: Yes, because I know, "If I go to London, I will be happy." So I am going there, therefore I am happy.
Guest (1): But you're not in London yet.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. I have already told you. That very purchase of ticket and the understanding that you are surely going to London, that is happiness.
Guest (1): But then there is no searching.
Prabhupāda: So what is that? If my destination is London, why there is searching? There is no use of searching.
Guest (1): Well, then why a conference with men of other religions?
Prabhupāda: No, that conference is to consult together that London is the destination.
Guest (1): But then you know of a destination.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (1): But the idea that you have behind your mind, is to tell other people where the destination is, not to search for it with them.
Prabhupāda: No, I don't say search. I have already searched out.
Guest (1): Yes. So then I feel myself that this is not a conference.
Prabhupāda: Why not conference? If I have got some good news to tell you, is it not conference?
Guest (2): Swamiji, I think the objective will be... As far as you are concerned, it will be London. As far as I am concerned, it may be Paris or Hawaii.
Prabhupāda: No, then that is not... No, that is not. Hawaii... Then we have to consider where real happiness, whether it is in Hawaii or in Paris or in...
Guest (2): True. But then you are not going to a country that it is not London. And if I say I am not going to...
Prabhupāda: That is going on. That is going on. There are innumerable planets, and in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, yānti deva-vratā devān pitṟn yānti pitṛ-vratāḥ (BG 9.25).