Rationalism
Lectures
Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures
Conversations and Morning Walks
1975 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: Samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu means that every one of us, we are servant of God. That is ekatvam. Ekatvam anupaśyati. Anu means always. Anu means following the authority. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya. [break] (Hindi) It is not that something, matter, becomes brahma-bhūtaḥ. No. He is Brahman.
Dr. Patel: He realizes that he is Brahman.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That's all.
Dr. Patel: He was not realizing it then.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: He was realizing he was body.
Prabhupāda: So long he thinks himself as the body, he is jīva-bhutaḥ.
Dr. Patel: You said very well yesterday.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Jīva-bhūtaḥ. Mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūtaḥ [Bg. 15.7]. They are thinking, "Indian, American, brāhmaṇa, śūdra, man, dog, cat, tree." This is jīva-bhutaḥ. And when he understands that "I am not these things, I am Brahman," that is brahma... Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu begins from this brahma-bhūtaḥ stage. His teaching is completely on the spiritual platform. Therefore people misunderstand us. Because we are speaking from the spiritual platform everything, they cannot understand. It requires practice. Abhyāsa-yoga-yuktena cetasā nānya-gāminā [Bg. 8.8]. Hm? What is that?
Dr. Patel: Cetasā nānya-gāminā, that you must have continuous fixing of your mind.
Prabhupāda: No, that... No, I know that. But second line, abhyāsa yoga-yuktena cetasā nānya gāminā [Bg. 8.8], that "One can understand the param puruṣa."
Dr. Patel: Abhyāsa-yoga-yuktena cetasā nānya-gāminā...
Prabhupāda: Upaiti puruṣam param, like that. So this bhakti-yoga means abhyāsa-yoga, practice.
Dr. Patel: Sir,
- brahma bhūtaḥ prasannātmā
- na śocati na kāṅkṣati
- samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu
- mad-bhaktiṁ labhate parām
[Bg. 18.54]
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: Then he gets real bhakti.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: He becomes real bhakta, when he realizes that he's soul and not body.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: Till then he is not a bhakta.
Prabhupāda: That is the beginning. Therefore Kṛṣṇa, in the beginning of Bhagavad-gītā, He says, dehino 'smin yathā dehe [Bg. 2.13]. Because everyone is rascal, he is thinking, "I am this body." Arjuna was also thinking, "How shall I kill my other side, my brother, my nephews?" Bodily. Therefore the beginning of spiritual education is to understand that "I am not this body; I am soul." That is the beginning. For so many years people are reading Bhagavad-gītā, but still they are in bodily concept. That is the misfortune.
Dr. Patel: Mahāmāyā duratyayā.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (aside:) Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya. (dog barking) No, no, no, don't. Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Indian man (1): Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Jaya. Jaya. [break]... concept of life means animals. So just see. In the whole world is going on, nationalism.
Dr. Patel: Bhramāyān sarva-bhūtāni yantrārūḍhāni māyayā [Bg. 18.61].
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Dr. Patel: Bhramayan sarva-bhūtāni yantrārūḍhāni māyayā.
Prabhupāda: What is this nationalism? We said, there is no such thing as nationalism in the Vedic literature, no such thing.
Yaśomatīnandana: Nationalism?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Nowadays nationalism is very prominent, and we don't find this nationalism.
Dr. Patel: Now they are going to rationalism.
Prabhupāda: Rationalism is required, not nationalism. No. This nationalism... The Americans and the Russians, they are enemies and friend only on this principle. Prahlāda Mahārāja was astonished, "What is this enemy and friend?" because he is maha-bhāgavata. This is materialism. This is materialism. (aside:) Jaya. Why one should be treated as enemy and as friend? Everyone is servant of God. [break] He is going on at night also?Page Title: | Rationalism |
Compiler: | Panna |
Created: | 04 of Dec, 2008 |
Totals by Section: | BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=1, Con=1, Let=0 |
No. of Quotes: | 2 |