Prabhupāda: So that is capturing the sentiment. There is no philosophy. And who cares for Jesus? First of all they must care for Jesus. So he's... He has got any books?
Jagadīśa: I don't think so. Maybe some pamphlets.
Hari-śauri: No one's got any literature like yours. At the most, they can produce a few pamphlets. They can't even produce one volume the size of the Bhāgavatam, what to speak of eighty. And if they could, no one would read them anyway.
Prabhupāda: No, on the whole there is now attempt to stop this movement. (break) ...but in... We have made so many court cases. Now, only loss we are feeling now—in some airports they have stopped our book selling. So formerly also, they were stopped and again revived.
Hari-śauri: Legally we haven't been stopped in any airport, I don't think.
Prabhupāda: Legally we have been stopped?
Jagadīśa: In Los Angeles, in Dallas and Atlanta.
Prabhupāda: Legally?
Hari-śauri: But that's only temporarily, I think.
Prabhupāda: What is the...?
Jagadīśa: It's a constant struggle.
Prabhupāda: Struggle must be there. You cannot stop it.
Jagadīśa: In Montreal for about two years...
Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa, since His birth struggled. (laughs)
Jagadīśa: We had harassment from the police in Montreal for two years. Sometimes they even beat up the devotees. They have put them into jail...
Prabhupāda: They have beaten even our book sellers in airports.
Hari-śauri: Chicago.
Jagadīśa: And the police mistreat the devotees. But still, the devotees continue and now in Montreal there's no trouble.
Prabhupāda: They crucified Jesus, what to speak of devotees. Prahlāda Mahārāja was persecuted, Haridāsa Ṭhākura. I think I shall not go to Europe, America, for some time. (laughter)
Hari-śauri: Not unless this gets cleared up.
Prabhupāda: Because it is being discussed about me. They say, "Old man is behind this movement."
Hari-śauri: Even in Australia now they're having the same thing, kidnapping and everything. It's everywhere.
Prabhupāda: That means they are feeling the weight. It is spreading.