Prabhupāda: Chanting, and it was mitigated, and he allowed. First of all, there was objection, then there was civil disobedience, then when they compromised, the Chand Kazi allowed the movement. This is the whole idea.
Hayagrīva: The fifth scene is renunciation of household life.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hayagrīva: This is at age...? This is considerably later then. This is about ten years later.
Prabhupāda: No. Renunciation... Now this Chand Kazi, he was... This movement when He was about 20 years old. Do you follow?
Hayagrīva: The saṅkīrtana was when He was around 20. The Kazi.
Prabhupāda: The saṅkīrtana was going on.