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| == Conversations and Morning Walks == | | <div class="section" id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2></div> |
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| === 1968 Conversations and Morning Walks === | | <div class="sub_section" id="1968_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1968 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1968 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div> |
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| <span class="q_heading">'''Those who are in the modes of ignorance, they are allowed to live in the lower planetary system.'''</span> | | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Interview with LA Times Reporter About Moon Trip -- December 26, 1968, Los Angeles" link_text="Interview with LA Times Reporter About Moon Trip -- December 26, 1968, Los Angeles"> |
| | <div class="heading">Those who are in the modes of ignorance, they are allowed to live in the lower planetary system.</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Interview with LA Times Reporter About Moon Trip -- December 26, 1968, Los Angeles|Interview with LA Times Reporter About Moon Trip -- December 26, 1968, Los Angeles]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Interview with LA Times Reporter About Moon Trip -- December 26, 1968, Los Angeles|Interview with LA Times Reporter About Moon Trip -- December 26, 1968, Los Angeles]]:''' |
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| Prabhupāda: In the Bhagavad-gītā it is stated that there are three planetary system, upper, lower and middle. So ūrdhvaṁ gacchanti, those who are in the modes of goodness, they are allowed to live in the upper planetary system. And those who are in the modes of passion, they are allowed to live in this middle planetary system, and those who are in the modes of ignorance, they are allowed to live in the lower planetary system. | | Prabhupāda: In the Bhagavad-gītā it is stated that there are three planetary system, upper, lower and middle. So ūrdhvaṁ gacchanti, those who are in the modes of goodness, they are allowed to live in the upper planetary system. And those who are in the modes of passion, they are allowed to live in this middle planetary system, and those who are in the modes of ignorance, they are allowed to live in the lower planetary system. |
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| Reporter: Now where would the moon planet fit? | | Reporter: Now where would the moon planet fit? |
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| Prabhupāda: Moon planet is the upper. That is the beginning of upper planetary system. Still upper, upper, upper, there are many layers.</span> | | Prabhupāda: Moon planet is the upper. That is the beginning of upper planetary system. Still upper, upper, upper, there are many layers.</div> |
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| === 1973 Conversations and Morning Walks === | | <div class="sub_section" id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div> |
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| <span class="q_heading">'''So a living entity is wandering up and down, sometimes in the higher planetary system and lower planetary system, sometimes this, sometimes rich, sometimes poor, sometimes this, sometimes a cat, sometimes dog, sometimes demigod.'''</span> | | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Room Conversation -- London, August 24, 1973 (New-2003)" link_text="Room Conversation -- London, August 24, 1973"> |
| | <div class="heading">So a living entity is wandering up and down, sometimes in the higher planetary system and lower planetary system, sometimes this, sometimes rich, sometimes poor, sometimes this, sometimes a cat, sometimes dog, sometimes demigod.</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- London, August 24, 1973 (New-2003)|Room Conversation -- London, August 24, 1973]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- London, August 24, 1973 (New-2003)|Room Conversation -- London, August 24, 1973]]:''' |
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| Prabhupāda: No, not like that. Unless you endeavor for going to Kṛṣṇa, there is no possibility. That is there in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, tasyaiva hetoḥ prayateta kovido na labhyate yad bhramatām upary adhaḥ [SB 1.5.18]. Human life is meant for trying for that thing which he has not achieved by wandering up and down. So a living entity is wandering up and down, sometimes in the higher planetary system and lower planetary system, sometimes this, sometimes rich, sometimes poor, sometimes this, sometimes a cat, sometimes dog, sometimes demigod. In this way he is suffering.</span> | | Prabhupāda: No, not like that. Unless you endeavor for going to Kṛṣṇa, there is no possibility. That is there in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, tasyaiva hetoḥ prayateta kovido na labhyate yad bhramatām upary adhaḥ [SB 1.5.18]. Human life is meant for trying for that thing which he has not achieved by wandering up and down. So a living entity is wandering up and down, sometimes in the higher planetary system and lower planetary system, sometimes this, sometimes rich, sometimes poor, sometimes this, sometimes a cat, sometimes dog, sometimes demigod. In this way he is suffering.</div> |
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| === 1975 Conversations and Morning Walks === | | <div class="sub_section" id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div> |
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| <span class="q_heading">'''"I don't care for God, don't care for what is going to happen." That is foolishness. People, lower planetary system, they are like that. In this planet also.'''</span> | | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Morning Walk -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne"> |
| | <div class="heading">"I don't care for God, don't care for what is going to happen." That is foolishness. People, lower planetary system, they are like that. In this planet also.</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne|Morning Walk -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne|Morning Walk -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne]]:''' |
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| Hari-śauri: Is the irregularity in the weather and... | | Hari-śauri: Is the irregularity in the weather and... |
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| Hari-śauri: So if we increase the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement... | | Hari-śauri: So if we increase the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement... |
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| Prabhupāda: Then it will be regular. It is nature's punishment. You may not care what is sinful life, but that is recorded. That is foolishness. "I don't care for God, don't care for what is going to happen." That is foolishness. People, lower planetary system, they are like that. In this planet also. In Western countries there are many places. "Don't care for anything, what is sinful life, what is going to happen. Let us enjoy, that's all." This is their philosophy. "Let us enjoy, that's all." Materialistic point of view is like that. They do not know that we are eternal and we are responsible for our activities. That is knowledge. But they have no knowledge. They simply want to enjoy. They do not care for death also. Simply sense gratification. That's all.</span> | | Prabhupāda: Then it will be regular. It is nature's punishment. You may not care what is sinful life, but that is recorded. That is foolishness. "I don't care for God, don't care for what is going to happen." That is foolishness. People, lower planetary system, they are like that. In this planet also. In Western countries there are many places. "Don't care for anything, what is sinful life, what is going to happen. Let us enjoy, that's all." This is their philosophy. "Let us enjoy, that's all." Materialistic point of view is like that. They do not know that we are eternal and we are responsible for our activities. That is knowledge. But they have no knowledge. They simply want to enjoy. They do not care for death also. Simply sense gratification. That's all.</div> |
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| <span class="q_heading">'''If we do not properly use this human form of body, if we become subjected to sinful life, then we get a different type of body, birth, death, old age and disease, we cannot avoid, either in the higher planetary or in the lower planetary system. '''</span> | | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Press Conference -- July 9, 1975, Chicago" link_text="Press Conference -- July 9, 1975, Chicago"> |
| | <div class="heading">If we do not properly use this human form of body, if we become subjected to sinful life, then we get a different type of body, birth, death, old age and disease, we cannot avoid, either in the higher planetary or in the lower planetary system.</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Press Conference -- July 9, 1975, Chicago|Press Conference -- July 9, 1975, Chicago]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Press Conference -- July 9, 1975, Chicago|Press Conference -- July 9, 1975, Chicago]]:''' |
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| Prabhupāda: There are 8,400,000 different types of body. So if we do not properly use this human form of body, if we become subjected to sinful life, then we get a different type of body, very—animal life, tree's life, plant's life, aquatic's life, insect life. Or even we are promoted to the higher standard of life, as in higher planets the demigods, the four principles of material miseries, namely birth, death, old age and disease, we cannot avoid, either in the higher planetary or in the lower planetary system. But if we want eternal life of bliss and knowledge, then we must endeavor in this life how to go back to home, back to Godhead. And such persons who are endeavoring for this purpose, they are called first-class men. And they are called brāhmaṇas or the first-class men.</span> | | Prabhupāda: There are 8,400,000 different types of body. So if we do not properly use this human form of body, if we become subjected to sinful life, then we get a different type of body, very—animal life, tree's life, plant's life, aquatic's life, insect life. Or even we are promoted to the higher standard of life, as in higher planets the demigods, the four principles of material miseries, namely birth, death, old age and disease, we cannot avoid, either in the higher planetary or in the lower planetary system. But if we want eternal life of bliss and knowledge, then we must endeavor in this life how to go back to home, back to Godhead. And such persons who are endeavoring for this purpose, they are called first-class men. And they are called brāhmaṇas or the first-class men.</div> |
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| <span class="q_heading">'''If a person has done very nicely, in goodness, then he will be promoted to the higher planetary system. And if he has not done anything nice then he will remain here or he will be degraded to the lower planetary system.'''</span> | | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia" link_text="Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia"> |
| | <div class="heading">If a person has done very nicely, in goodness, then he will be promoted to the higher planetary system. And if he has not done anything nice then he will remain here or he will be degraded to the lower planetary system.</div> |
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| Prabhupāda: The risk of degradation. Now I have got human form of body, I may degrade to animal. Because transmigration of the soul. In the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, tathā dehāntara prāptir, after death one gets another body. Now, what kind of body, that depends on his work. Ūrdhvaṁ gacchanti sattva-sthāḥ [Bg. 14.18]. If he has done very nicely, in goodness, then he will be promoted to the higher planetary system. And if he has not done anything nice then he will remain here or he will be degraded to the lower planetary system.</span> | | Prabhupāda: The risk of degradation. Now I have got human form of body, I may degrade to animal. Because transmigration of the soul. In the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, tathā dehāntara prāptir, after death one gets another body. Now, what kind of body, that depends on his work. Ūrdhvaṁ gacchanti sattva-sthāḥ [Bg. 14.18]. If he has done very nicely, in goodness, then he will be promoted to the higher planetary system. And if he has not done anything nice then he will remain here or he will be degraded to the lower planetary system.</div> |
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| === 1976 Conversations and Morning Walks === | | <div class="sub_section" id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div> |
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| <span class="q_heading">'''After birth in higher planet, at the end he will falldown and again he can make choice whether he goes to higher planetary system or lower planetary system or back to Godhead. '''</span> | | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Evening Darsana -- July 8, 1976, Washington, D.C." link_text="Evening Darsana -- July 8, 1976, Washington, D.C."> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Evening Darsana -- July 8, 1976, Washington, D.C.|Evening Darsana -- July 8, 1976, Washington, D.C.]]:''' As soon as they spend up their resultant action of pious activities, then again drop down, kṣīṇe puṇye punar martya-lokaṁ viśanti. And again begins life from the grass. They fall down with rains, and then they grow as grass. Then evolutional life begins, from plant life to insect life, to insect life to bird's life. | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Evening Darsana -- July 8, 1976, Washington, D.C.|Evening Darsana -- July 8, 1976, Washington, D.C.]]:''' As soon as they spend up their resultant action of pious activities, then again drop down, kṣīṇe puṇye punar martya-lokaṁ viśanti. And again begins life from the grass. They fall down with rains, and then they grow as grass. Then evolutional life begins, from plant life to insect life, to insect life to bird's life. |
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| <span class="q_heading">'''So we have to change the body according to our desire. If we want to go to the higher planetary system, we can go. God will give us the facility. If you want to go to the lower planetary system, He'll give you. And if you want to go to Him, He'll give you. '''</span> | | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Evening Darsana -- May 11, 1977, Hrishikesh" link_text="Evening Darsana -- May 11, 1977, Hrishikesh"> |
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