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| == Lectures == | | <div class="sub_section" id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3></div> |
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| === Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures === | | <div class="quote" book="Lec" link="Lecture on SB 2.9.3 -- Melbourne, April 5, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 2.9.3 -- Melbourne, April 5, 1972"> |
| | <div class="heading">So we have to see that things are going on very nicely. So in that way the GBC members should divide some zones and see very nicely that things are going on, that they are chanting sixteen rounds, and temple management is doing according to the routine work, and the books are being thoroughly discussed, being read, understood practically. These things are required</div> |
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| '''So we have to see that things are going on very nicely. So in that way the GBC members should divide some zones and see very nicely that things are going on, that they are chanting sixteen rounds, and temple management is doing according to the routine work, and the books are being thoroughly discussed, being read, understood practically. These things are required'''
| | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 2.9.3 -- Melbourne, April 5, 1972|Lecture on SB 2.9.3 -- Melbourne, April 5, 1972]]:''' |
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| Prabhupāda: Similarly, the GBC member means they will see that in every temple these books are very thoroughly being read and discussed and understood and applied in practical life. That is wanted, not to see the vouchers only, "How many books you have sold, and how many books are in the stock?" That is secondary. You may keep vouchers... If one is engaged in Kṛṣṇa's service, there is no need of vouchers. That is... Everyone is doing his best. That's all. So we have to see that things are going on very nicely. So in that way the GBC members should divide some zones and see very nicely that things are going on, that they are chanting sixteen rounds, and temple management is doing according to the routine work, and the books are being thoroughly discussed, being read, understood practically. These things are required. Now, suppose you go to sell some book and if somebody says, "You have read this book? Can you explain this verse?" then what you will say? You will say, "No. It is for you. It is not for me. I have to take money from you. That's all." Is that very nice answer? | | Prabhupāda: Similarly, the GBC member means they will see that in every temple these books are very thoroughly being read and discussed and understood and applied in practical life. That is wanted, not to see the vouchers only, "How many books you have sold, and how many books are in the stock?" That is secondary. You may keep vouchers... If one is engaged in Kṛṣṇa's service, there is no need of vouchers. That is... Everyone is doing his best. That's all. So we have to see that things are going on very nicely. So in that way the GBC members should divide some zones and see very nicely that things are going on, that they are chanting sixteen rounds, and temple management is doing according to the routine work, and the books are being thoroughly discussed, being read, understood practically. These things are required. Now, suppose you go to sell some book and if somebody says, "You have read this book? Can you explain this verse?" then what you will say? You will say, "No. It is for you. It is not for me. I have to take money from you. That's all." Is that very nice answer? |
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| Prabhupāda: Then? "We have written this book for your reading, not for our reading. We are simply collect money." That's all. | | Prabhupāda: Then? "We have written this book for your reading, not for our reading. We are simply collect money." That's all.</div> |
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| == Correspondence == | | <div class="section" id="Correspondence" text="Correspondence"><h2>Correspondence</h2></div> |
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| === 1971 Correspondence === | | <div class="sub_section" id="1971_Correspondence" text="1971 Correspondence"><h3>1971 Correspondence</h3></div> |
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| '''What GBC man from India has written that GBC member should be "disentangled from local management"? I have no information who it is. I never advised GBC men to write like that. Why should the presidents give up their posts? GBC work should go on but the temples must be looked after simultaneously'''
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| | <div class="heading">What GBC man from India has written that GBC member should be "disentangled from local management"? I have no information who it is. I never advised GBC men to write like that. Why should the presidents give up their posts? GBC work should go on but the temples must be looked after simultaneously</div> |
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| <span class="LET-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Rupanuga -- Bombay 9 April, 1971|Letter to Rupanuga -- Bombay 9 April, 1971]]:''' What GBC man from India has written that GBC member should be "disentangled from local management"? I have no information who it is. I never advised GBC men to write like that. Why should the presidents give up their posts? GBC work should go on but the temples must be looked after simultaneously. Of course for better management you can go to N.Y.; yours is special case. But this was not my advice. This instruction should be given to all that I never advised that they give up the post of presidency. I asked Tamala if he had written any such direction, but he denied. I do not know which GBC member has advised like that. Jagadisa was also divorcing himself from temple management but found the devotees enthusiasm slackened and so he has returned to the temple schedule. The temples must be maintained. | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Rupanuga -- Bombay 9 April, 1971|Letter to Rupanuga -- Bombay 9 April, 1971]]:''' What GBC man from India has written that GBC member should be "disentangled from local management"? I have no information who it is. I never advised GBC men to write like that. Why should the presidents give up their posts? GBC work should go on but the temples must be looked after simultaneously. Of course for better management you can go to N.Y.; yours is special case. But this was not my advice. This instruction should be given to all that I never advised that they give up the post of presidency. I asked Tamala if he had written any such direction, but he denied. I do not know which GBC member has advised like that. Jagadisa was also divorcing himself from temple management but found the devotees enthusiasm slackened and so he has returned to the temple schedule. The temples must be maintained.</div> |
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| === 1972 Correspondence === | | <div class="sub_section" id="1972_Correspondence" text="1972 Correspondence"><h3>1972 Correspondence</h3></div> |
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| '''My only request is that all the GBC members should be strictly to the standard of life, and see that others are also following them'''
| | <div class="quote" book="Let" link="Letter to Hayagriva -- Madras 13 February, 1972" link_text="Letter to Hayagriva -- Madras 13 February, 1972"> |
| | <div class="heading">My only request is that all the GBC members should be strictly to the standard of life, and see that others are also following them</div> |
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| <span class="LET-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Hayagriva -- Madras 13 February, 1972|Letter to Hayagriva -- Madras 13 February, 1972]]:''' As GBC you should see the standard is perfectly maintained, and that deity worship is perfectly done. Then Krishna will give us all protection. Neglecting the principles means neglecting Krishna's order. So you are one of the chief men of this Institution, kindly maintain your behavior to the standard so that others will follow and the whole thing may go on nicely. It was said about Lord Caitanya: APANI ACARI PRABHU JIVERE SIKHAYA, that is, He personally used to practice Himself the injunctions and then He used to teach others. That is our principle: Unless one is perfectly behaved person, he cannot teach others. My only request is that all the GBC members should be strictly to the standard of life, and see that others are also following them. Then our centers will be well-managed. Kindly do that and advise your co-workers to do that. | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Hayagriva -- Madras 13 February, 1972|Letter to Hayagriva -- Madras 13 February, 1972]]:''' As GBC you should see the standard is perfectly maintained, and that deity worship is perfectly done. Then Krishna will give us all protection. Neglecting the principles means neglecting Krishna's order. So you are one of the chief men of this Institution, kindly maintain your behavior to the standard so that others will follow and the whole thing may go on nicely. It was said about Lord Caitanya: APANI ACARI PRABHU JIVERE SIKHAYA, that is, He personally used to practice Himself the injunctions and then He used to teach others. That is our principle: Unless one is perfectly behaved person, he cannot teach others. My only request is that all the GBC members should be strictly to the standard of life, and see that others are also following them. Then our centers will be well-managed. Kindly do that and advise your co-workers to do that.</div> |
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| '''GBC men should not dictate very much, simply supervise and see that the standards are maintained. The individual presidents should be more managerial, more individual, and you can supervise, and if some defect is detected, you can make suggestions how to correct it'''
| | <div class="quote" book="Let" link="Letter to Hamsaduta -- Madras 14 February, 1972" link_text="Letter to Hamsaduta -- Madras 14 February, 1972"> |
| | <div class="heading">GBC men should not dictate very much, simply supervise and see that the standards are maintained. The individual presidents should be more managerial, more individual, and you can supervise, and if some defect is detected, you can make suggestions how to correct it</div> |
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| <span class="LET-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Hamsaduta -- Madras 14 February, 1972|Letter to Hamsaduta -- Madras 14 February, 1972]]:''' I am very pleased to note that you are so enthusiastic to push on Krishna Consciousness and follow yourself very faithfully the regulative principles chalked out by our great predecessors. If you simply go on in this way, everything will come out successful, that we are seeing practically. So as GBC you must see to it that the highest standards of routine work are maintained throughout all the centers, and that chanting, rising early, cleansing, and all other aspects of our regular program may not be neglected. That is our first business. GBC men should not dictate very much, simply supervise and see that the standards are maintained. The individual presidents should be more managerial, more individual, and you can supervise, and if some defect is detected, you can make suggestions how to correct it. But if we lose individuality and simply become mechanical, what is the point? | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Hamsaduta -- Madras 14 February, 1972|Letter to Hamsaduta -- Madras 14 February, 1972]]:''' I am very pleased to note that you are so enthusiastic to push on Krishna Consciousness and follow yourself very faithfully the regulative principles chalked out by our great predecessors. If you simply go on in this way, everything will come out successful, that we are seeing practically. So as GBC you must see to it that the highest standards of routine work are maintained throughout all the centers, and that chanting, rising early, cleansing, and all other aspects of our regular program may not be neglected. That is our first business. GBC men should not dictate very much, simply supervise and see that the standards are maintained. The individual presidents should be more managerial, more individual, and you can supervise, and if some defect is detected, you can make suggestions how to correct it. But if we lose individuality and simply become mechanical, what is the point?</div> |
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| | <div class="heading">I want that the GBC men should leave the management of the individual centers to the local presidents and concentrate themselves upon preaching work</div> |
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| <span class="LET-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Madhudvisa -- Los Angeles 12 June, 1972|Letter to Madhudvisa -- Los Angeles 12 June, 1972]]:''' I have received your letter from Sydney dated May 30, 1972, wherein you have expressed some hesitation to become the GBC Secretary for the Pacific zone. Actually you may be misunderstanding the present position or policy of this GBC. I have instructed all of the GBC men to give up their staying in one place and to remain always constantly traveling throughout their zones from temple to temple. Recently, I have given Sannyasa order of life to Rupanuga, Satsvarupa, and Bali Mardan, and I have made Brahmananda the GBC man for Africa, and I wanted that you should be GBC man for South Pacific zone. So being Sannyasi is no hindrance for being also GBC. In fact, the duties of the GBC men are now to be just like the duties of the Sannyasis. I want that the GBC men should leave the management of the individual centers to the local presidents and concentrate themselves upon preaching work. They should be constantly traveling from one center to another center to see how the students are learning and to give whatever advice is necessary for improving the temple standards. In addition, the GBC men will open new centers, distribute literature, and they should always be traveling with a sankirtana party to accompany them. So practically there is no difference between the Sannyasi duty and the GBC duty, and because you are my veteran disciple and you have had very good experience, I think there will be no trouble for you to accept the GBC position, I do not think it will in any way inconvenience you program of traveling. But for the time being, if you prefer, Mohanananda can work conjointly with you for managing. We shall decide finally after some months. | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Madhudvisa -- Los Angeles 12 June, 1972|Letter to Madhudvisa -- Los Angeles 12 June, 1972]]:''' I have received your letter from Sydney dated May 30, 1972, wherein you have expressed some hesitation to become the GBC Secretary for the Pacific zone. Actually you may be misunderstanding the present position or policy of this GBC. I have instructed all of the GBC men to give up their staying in one place and to remain always constantly traveling throughout their zones from temple to temple. Recently, I have given Sannyasa order of life to Rupanuga, Satsvarupa, and Bali Mardan, and I have made Brahmananda the GBC man for Africa, and I wanted that you should be GBC man for South Pacific zone. So being Sannyasi is no hindrance for being also GBC. In fact, the duties of the GBC men are now to be just like the duties of the Sannyasis. I want that the GBC men should leave the management of the individual centers to the local presidents and concentrate themselves upon preaching work. They should be constantly traveling from one center to another center to see how the students are learning and to give whatever advice is necessary for improving the temple standards. In addition, the GBC men will open new centers, distribute literature, and they should always be traveling with a sankirtana party to accompany them. So practically there is no difference between the Sannyasi duty and the GBC duty, and because you are my veteran disciple and you have had very good experience, I think there will be no trouble for you to accept the GBC position, I do not think it will in any way inconvenience you program of traveling. But for the time being, if you prefer, Mohanananda can work conjointly with you for managing. We shall decide finally after some months.</div> |
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| | <div class="heading">So that is a very important work and you are especially responsible to make it successful. All other GBC men should give you all assistance for building up the standard there</div> |
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| <span class="LET-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Satsvarupa -- Los Angeles 1 July, 1972|Letter to Satsvarupa -- Los Angeles 1 July, 1972]]:''' We must develop our Krishna Consciousness school at Dallas to be the model for education in all the world, and let anyone see our Krishna Consciousness children and they will immediately understand the importance and necessity for such education amongst the citizens at large. Otherwise, the children of your country and other countries, they are simply growing up to be sophisticated animals, so what good will their education do? But if they will agree to try to understand our Krishna Consciousness education or way of life and allow their children to be educated by us, they will see them come out as the topmost citizens with all good qualities such as honesty, cleanliness, truthfulness, loyalty, etc. So that is a very important work and you are especially responsible to make it successful. All other GBC men should give you all assistance for building up the standard there. | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Satsvarupa -- Los Angeles 1 July, 1972|Letter to Satsvarupa -- Los Angeles 1 July, 1972]]:''' We must develop our Krishna Consciousness school at Dallas to be the model for education in all the world, and let anyone see our Krishna Consciousness children and they will immediately understand the importance and necessity for such education amongst the citizens at large. Otherwise, the children of your country and other countries, they are simply growing up to be sophisticated animals, so what good will their education do? But if they will agree to try to understand our Krishna Consciousness education or way of life and allow their children to be educated by us, they will see them come out as the topmost citizens with all good qualities such as honesty, cleanliness, truthfulness, loyalty, etc. So that is a very important work and you are especially responsible to make it successful. All other GBC men should give you all assistance for building up the standard there.</div> |
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| '''It is not possible for me to tax my brain on every detail. The GBC should meet in Mayapur in March, and all details of management should be discussed. My inclination is to retire completely from management and devote my time to my books. Let all of you give me this chance and consult amongst yourselves regarding the management'''
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| | <div class="heading">It is not possible for me to tax my brain on every detail. The GBC should meet in Mayapur in March, and all details of management should be discussed. My inclination is to retire completely from management and devote my time to my books. Let all of you give me this chance and consult amongst yourselves regarding the management</div> |
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| <span class="LET-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Mohanananda -- Bombay 13 October, 1973|Letter to Mohanananda: — Bombay 13 October, 1973]]:''' In my opinion all Gurukula students should be educated free of charge, but outside students may be charged. Our own parents should without obligation contribute liberally, but we should not be hard with them if they cannot pay. Sometimes the parents get money from the Welfare Dept., so whatever money they get for their children must be paid to Gurukula. | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Mohanananda -- Bombay 13 October, 1973|Letter to Mohanananda: — Bombay 13 October, 1973]]:''' In my opinion all Gurukula students should be educated free of charge, but outside students may be charged. Our own parents should without obligation contribute liberally, but we should not be hard with them if they cannot pay. Sometimes the parents get money from the Welfare Dept., so whatever money they get for their children must be paid to Gurukula. |
| It is not possible for me to tax my brain on every detail. The GBC should meet in Mayapur in March, and all details of management should be discussed. My inclination is to retire completely from management and devote my time to my books. Let all of you give me this chance and consult amongst yourselves regarding the management. | | It is not possible for me to tax my brain on every detail. The GBC should meet in Mayapur in March, and all details of management should be discussed. My inclination is to retire completely from management and devote my time to my books. Let all of you give me this chance and consult amongst yourselves regarding the management. |
| But, on the whole the Gurukula standard should be free education, boarding, and lodging. People shall voluntarily contribute as far as possible. That should be introduced. We cannot enforce that if you do not pay, then take back your child. Rather the opposite. We must give free education to our children. We have to if need be provide money from the incense business or Book Trust, like that if sufficient income is not there. | | But, on the whole the Gurukula standard should be free education, boarding, and lodging. People shall voluntarily contribute as far as possible. That should be introduced. We cannot enforce that if you do not pay, then take back your child. Rather the opposite. We must give free education to our children. We have to if need be provide money from the incense business or Book Trust, like that if sufficient income is not there.</div> |
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| === 1974 Correspondence === | | <div class="sub_section" id="1974_Correspondence" text="1974 Correspondence"><h3>1974 Correspondence</h3></div> |
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| | <div class="heading">The GBC should personally observe strictly all the rules and regulations and they should become the practical example to others. Then everything will be all right. Then there will be no fear of being victimized by maya</div> |
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| Regarding the International Trust Board, we are now expanding and so our interests should be carefully guarded. Certainly the 12 GBC members are being trained up strictly under my guidance so that they will protect the interest of the society very, very carefully. All our property should be well protected, and I think in every document my name as Founder-Acarya should be mentioned. Special care should be taken that no property can be sold or mortgaged by local managers as was done by Gaurasundara. This is my only concern. | | Regarding the International Trust Board, we are now expanding and so our interests should be carefully guarded. Certainly the 12 GBC members are being trained up strictly under my guidance so that they will protect the interest of the society very, very carefully. All our property should be well protected, and I think in every document my name as Founder-Acarya should be mentioned. Special care should be taken that no property can be sold or mortgaged by local managers as was done by Gaurasundara. This is my only concern.</div> |
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| | <div class="heading">Our GBC members should always visit the different temples to see that everything goes on well, and to see that the management is being done very nicely</div> |
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| | <div class="heading">I want that the GBC should relieve me of this management burden and in the future, all such questions should be taken up with the local GBC member</div> |
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| | <div class="heading">The GBC should all be the instructor gurus. I am in the initiator guru, and you should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and doing what I am doing. This is not a title, but you must actually come to this platform. This I want</div> |
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| <span class="LET-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Madhudvisa -- Detroit 4 August, 1975|Letter to Madhudvisa: — Detroit 4 August, 1975]]:''' I am in due receipt of your GBC report and have noted the contents carefully. Yes, it is good that you are sending everybody on Sankirtana party, and also that everybody is taking prasada together. This is all very good. And, the cutting of the long hairs is also good. They should all adopt our means of life, and we should behave in such a way that others may follow. | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Madhudvisa -- Detroit 4 August, 1975|Letter to Madhudvisa: — Detroit 4 August, 1975]]:''' I am in due receipt of your GBC report and have noted the contents carefully. Yes, it is good that you are sending everybody on Sankirtana party, and also that everybody is taking prasada together. This is all very good. And, the cutting of the long hairs is also good. They should all adopt our means of life, and we should behave in such a way that others may follow. |
| Regarding Sydney, that the President has left, if one does not follow the regulative principles, then he will leave. That is a fact. Has somebody else been elected? This is the function of the GBC, to see that one may not be taken away by maya. The GBC should all be the instructor gurus. I am in the initiator guru, and you should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and doing what I am doing. This is not a title, but you must actually come to this platform. This I want. | | Regarding Sydney, that the President has left, if one does not follow the regulative principles, then he will leave. That is a fact. Has somebody else been elected? This is the function of the GBC, to see that one may not be taken away by maya. The GBC should all be the instructor gurus. I am in the initiator guru, and you should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and doing what I am doing. This is not a title, but you must actually come to this platform. This I want.</div> |
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| '''The local management has to be done by temple president, GBC should see whether management is going on nicely, and if there are any discrepancies that will be discussed at the GBC meeting in Mayapur'''
| | <div class="quote" book="Let" link="Letter to Jayatirtha -- Johannesburg 16 October, 1975" link_text="Letter to Jayatirtha -- Johannesburg 16 October, 1975"> |
| | <div class="heading">The local management has to be done by temple president, GBC should see whether management is going on nicely, and if there are any discrepancies that will be discussed at the GBC meeting in Mayapur</div> |
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| <span class="LET-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Jayatirtha -- Johannesburg 16 October, 1975|Letter to Jayatirtha -- Johannesburg 16 October, 1975]]:''' There is no question of removal at the present moment. We shall sit together in Mayapur if there is any complaint against one another. At the Mayapur meeting, whatever we have decided that is good for one year. So if anything has to be done it will be decided by majority decision of the GBC. I do not wish to give any decision without the GBC's verdict. My only grievance is that I appointed GBC to give me relief from the management but, on the contrary, complaints and counter-complaints are coming to me. Then how my brain can be peaceful. Naturally, I want to see that all of my centres are going nicely, so is it not possible to mitigate the differences of opinion and work smoothly, conjointly. So best thing is that we wait for the Mayapur meeting and decide there combinedly what to do. | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Jayatirtha -- Johannesburg 16 October, 1975|Letter to Jayatirtha -- Johannesburg 16 October, 1975]]:''' There is no question of removal at the present moment. We shall sit together in Mayapur if there is any complaint against one another. At the Mayapur meeting, whatever we have decided that is good for one year. So if anything has to be done it will be decided by majority decision of the GBC. I do not wish to give any decision without the GBC's verdict. My only grievance is that I appointed GBC to give me relief from the management but, on the contrary, complaints and counter-complaints are coming to me. Then how my brain can be peaceful. Naturally, I want to see that all of my centres are going nicely, so is it not possible to mitigate the differences of opinion and work smoothly, conjointly. So best thing is that we wait for the Mayapur meeting and decide there combinedly what to do. |
| The local management has to be done by temple president, GBC should see whether management is going on nicely, and if there are any discrepancies that will be discussed at the GBC meeting in Mayapur. That is the process. Sannyasis are meant for preaching only. That is the principle. But, contrary to the principle if things are being embezzled then how can I save them. How one man can manage the whole world affairs? This is my concern. | | The local management has to be done by temple president, GBC should see whether management is going on nicely, and if there are any discrepancies that will be discussed at the GBC meeting in Mayapur. That is the process. Sannyasis are meant for preaching only. That is the principle. But, contrary to the principle if things are being embezzled then how can I save them. How one man can manage the whole world affairs? This is my concern.</div> |
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| === 1976 Correspondence === | | <div class="sub_section" id="1976_Correspondence" text="1976 Correspondence"><h3>1976 Correspondence</h3></div> |
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| '''The GBC should make an injunction that if they beget children, then whatever the expenses are for supporting Gurukula they must pay for it'''
| | <div class="quote" book="Let" link="Letter to Jagadisa -- Mayapur 22 January, 1976" link_text="Letter to Jagadisa -- Mayapur 22 January, 1976"> |
| | <div class="heading">The GBC should make an injunction that if they beget children, then whatever the expenses are for supporting Gurukula they must pay for it</div> |
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| <span class="LET-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Jagadisa -- Mayapur 22 January, 1976|Letter to Jagadisa -- Mayapur 22 January, 1976]]:''' Another thing, is that you are expecting a BBT loan of $150,000. but the BBT has already taken responsibility for Bombay, Kuruksetra, Mayapur, so this money has to go to India. Therefore, I do not think the BBT can give this loan. Actually it is the responsibility of the parents to maintain Gurukula. By taxing the Temples or taking loan from the BBT the parents are being allowed to avoid their responsibility. Before having a child the parents should see whether they shall be able to pay for their child's education. The GBC should make an injunction that if they beget children, then whatever the expenses are for supporting Gurukula they must pay for it. In another letter to Jayatirtha I have suggested how the parents can earn money for their children's support. So you can discuss everything together and do the needful. | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Jagadisa -- Mayapur 22 January, 1976|Letter to Jagadisa -- Mayapur 22 January, 1976]]:''' Another thing, is that you are expecting a BBT loan of $150,000. but the BBT has already taken responsibility for Bombay, Kuruksetra, Mayapur, so this money has to go to India. Therefore, I do not think the BBT can give this loan. Actually it is the responsibility of the parents to maintain Gurukula. By taxing the Temples or taking loan from the BBT the parents are being allowed to avoid their responsibility. Before having a child the parents should see whether they shall be able to pay for their child's education. The GBC should make an injunction that if they beget children, then whatever the expenses are for supporting Gurukula they must pay for it. In another letter to Jayatirtha I have suggested how the parents can earn money for their children's support. So you can discuss everything together and do the needful.</div> |
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| '''I have chosen my best men to be GBC and I do not want that the GBC should be disrespectful to the temple presidents. You can naturally consult me, but if the basic principle is weak, how will things go on? So please assist me in the management so that I can be free to finish the Srimad-Bhagavatam which will be our lasting contribution to the world'''
| | <div class="quote" book="Let" link="Letter to All Governing Board Commissioners -- Honolulu 19 May, 1976" link_text="Letter to All Governing Board Commissioners -- Honolulu 19 May, 1976"> |
| | <div class="heading">I have chosen my best men to be GBC and I do not want that the GBC should be disrespectful to the temple presidents. You can naturally consult me, but if the basic principle is weak, how will things go on? So please assist me in the management so that I can be free to finish the Srimad-Bhagavatam which will be our lasting contribution to the world</div> |
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| <span class="LET-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to All Governing Board Commissioners -- Honolulu 19 May, 1976|Letter to All Governing Board Commissioners -- Honolulu 19 May, 1976]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to All Governing Board Commissioners -- Honolulu 19 May, 1976|Letter to All Governing Board Commissioners -- Honolulu 19 May, 1976]]:''' |
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| '''I have appointed him as acting GBC/BBT until the Mayapur meeting. You GBC men should please help him in his efforts to win the case there as this case will decide the future of our movement there in Europe'''
| | <div class="quote" book="Let" link="Letter to Jayatirtha, Bhagavan -- Hyderabad 10 December, 1976" link_text="Letter to Jayatirtha, Bhagavan -- Hyderabad 10 December, 1976"> |
| | <div class="heading">I have appointed him as acting GBC/BBT until the Mayapur meeting. You GBC men should please help him in his efforts to win the case there as this case will decide the future of our movement there in Europe</div> |
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| <span class="LET-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Jayatirtha, Bhagavan -- Hyderabad 10 December, 1976|Letter to Jayatirtha, Bhagavan -- Hyderabad 10 December, 1976]]:''' I am very satisfied with the work Harikesa Swami is doing there in Germany and Eastern Europe, therefore in order to encourage him and give him facility to rectify the situation in Germany, I have appointed him as acting GBC/BBT until the Mayapur meeting. You GBC men should please help him in his efforts to win the case there as this case will decide the future of our movement there in Europe. | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Jayatirtha, Bhagavan -- Hyderabad 10 December, 1976|Letter to Jayatirtha, Bhagavan -- Hyderabad 10 December, 1976]]:''' I am very satisfied with the work Harikesa Swami is doing there in Germany and Eastern Europe, therefore in order to encourage him and give him facility to rectify the situation in Germany, I have appointed him as acting GBC/BBT until the Mayapur meeting. You GBC men should please help him in his efforts to win the case there as this case will decide the future of our movement there in Europe.</div> |
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| == Conversations and Morning Walks == | | <div class="section" id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2></div> |
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| === 1971 Conversations and Morning Walks === | | <div class="sub_section" id="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1971 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1971 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div> |
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| '''All GBC members should organize like that. Then everything will be all right. And sell books'''
| | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Room Conversation -- August 15, 1971, London" link_text="Room Conversation -- August 15, 1971, London"> |
| | <div class="heading">All GBC members should organize like that. Then everything will be all right. And sell books</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 15, 1971, London|Room Conversation -- August 15, 1971, London]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 15, 1971, London|Room Conversation -- August 15, 1971, London]]:''' |
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| Prabhupāda: Electric guitar, if it is, they chant Hare Kṛṣṇa only, nothing else, then it is all right. But as far as possible, simply mṛdaṅga and kartāl. But if GBC thinks that it attracts more people so they give contribution, that is a different thing. Otherwise there is no need. | | Prabhupāda: Electric guitar, if it is, they chant Hare Kṛṣṇa only, nothing else, then it is all right. But as far as possible, simply mṛdaṅga and kartāl. But if GBC thinks that it attracts more people so they give contribution, that is a different thing. Otherwise there is no need. |
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| Prabhupāda: That's all. And print it and distribute. And another thing. If you can print yourself, it is all right, But if you want printing cost from the general book fund, then whatever you sell you deposit there. You deposit and take, deposit and take, deposit and take. Then when, even if you have no money you'll get money. And then you deposit. But if you spend it, then you cannot expect from the general book fund. | | Prabhupāda: That's all. And print it and distribute. And another thing. If you can print yourself, it is all right, But if you want printing cost from the general book fund, then whatever you sell you deposit there. You deposit and take, deposit and take, deposit and take. Then when, even if you have no money you'll get money. And then you deposit. But if you spend it, then you cannot expect from the general book fund.</div> |
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| === 1975 Conversations and Morning Walks === | | <div class="sub_section" id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div> |
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| '''Then GBC should be consulted. And if the GBC cannot answer, then I'll answer'''
| | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur" link_text="Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur"> |
| | <div class="heading">Then GBC should be consulted. And if the GBC cannot answer, then I'll answer</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur|Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur|Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur]]:''' |
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| Jayatīrtha: Six months after first initiation. All right. So the next role for the GBC man is to act as the designated representative of Śrīla Prabhupāda to settle all philosophic, procedural disputes which may arise and are not settled at the temple level. In other words, any philosophic question a temple president can't ans... | | Jayatīrtha: Six months after first initiation. All right. So the next role for the GBC man is to act as the designated representative of Śrīla Prabhupāda to settle all philosophic, procedural disputes which may arise and are not settled at the temple level. In other words, any philosophic question a temple president can't ans... |
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| '''The BBT, that, it should be: how the complaints should be stopped, and if they have no other income, then how things should be managed. That is... GBC should discuss'''
| | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur" link_text="Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur"> |
| | <div class="heading">The BBT, that, it should be: how the complaints should be stopped, and if they have no other income, then how things should be managed. That is... GBC should discuss</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur|Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur|Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur]]:''' |
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| Prabhupāda: The India is membership, and the members, if they are dissatisfied, then? This is not good. So find out the way how this complaint can be solved. | | Prabhupāda: The India is membership, and the members, if they are dissatisfied, then? This is not good. So find out the way how this complaint can be solved. |
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| '''The GBC should see that it is being done properly. Why he should involve himself in the internal management?'''
| | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur" link_text="Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur"> |
| | <div class="heading">The GBC should see that it is being done properly. Why he should involve himself in the internal management?</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur|Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur|Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur]]:''' |
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| Atreya Ṛṣi: No, no. As GBC, we do not deal with money. In other words, if you're dealing with money, it's the temple president. | | Atreya Ṛṣi: No, no. As GBC, we do not deal with money. In other words, if you're dealing with money, it's the temple president. |
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| Rūpānuga: There's no account, no GBC account. | | Rūpānuga: There's no account, no GBC account.</div> |
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| | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur" link_text="Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur"> |
| | <div class="heading">So the president, treasurer and secretary, they will deal directly, and GBC should inspect book, account, that it is done very nicely. That's all. You can question, "Why you have done this?" That's nice. Otherwise, in the..., it will be difficult to manage.</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur|Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur|Conversation with the GBC -- March 27, 1975, Mayapur]]:''' |
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| Rūpānuga: There's no account, no GBC account. | | Rūpānuga: There's no account, no GBC account. |
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| === 1977 Conversations and Morning Walks === | | <div class="sub_section" id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div> |
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| '''Why don't you call him to study the whole situation?...Yes, the real point is that the GBC should meet with him... Yes'''
| | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Room Conversation -- March 1, 1977, Mayapura" link_text="Room Conversation -- March 1, 1977, Mayapura"> |
| | <div class="heading">Why don't you call him to study the whole situation?...Yes, the real point is that the GBC should meet with him... Yes</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- March 1, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation -- March 1, 1977, Mayapura]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- March 1, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation -- March 1, 1977, Mayapura]]:''' |
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| Brahmānanda: Haṁsadūta Mahārāja planned(?) that there's much debt in the Hyderabad temple. They owe one lakh of rupees. | | Brahmānanda: Haṁsadūta Mahārāja planned(?) that there's much debt in the Hyderabad temple. They owe one lakh of rupees. |
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| Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So he is expected here, and when he comes, we'll meet with him. | | Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So he is expected here, and when he comes, we'll meet with him. |
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| '''Resolved: All properties purchased, even those personally transacted by GBC members, should be cleared through the property committee'''
| | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Room Conversation with GBC members -- March 2-3, 1977, Mayapura" link_text="Room Conversation with GBC members -- March 2-3, 1977, Mayapura"> |
| | <div class="heading">Resolved: All properties purchased, even those personally transacted by GBC members, should be cleared through the property committee</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with GBC members -- March 2-3, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation with GBC members -- March 2-3, 1977, Mayapura]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with GBC members -- March 2-3, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation with GBC members -- March 2-3, 1977, Mayapura]]:''' |
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| Satsvarūpa: Resolved: All properties purchased, even those personally transacted by GBC members, should be cleared through the property committee. The property committee will add Rāmeśvara Mahārāja along with Jayatīrtha for the US. | | Satsvarūpa: Resolved: All properties purchased, even those personally transacted by GBC members, should be cleared through the property committee. The property committee will add Rāmeśvara Mahārāja along with Jayatīrtha for the US. |
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| '''And also the GBC man should go out in each of his temples in his zone at least once during the year to see how the men are distributing books'''
| | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Room Conversation with GBC members -- March 2-3, 1977, Mayapura" link_text="Room Conversation with GBC members -- March 2-3, 1977, Mayapura"> |
| | <div class="heading">And also the GBC man should go out in each of his temples in his zone at least once during the year to see how the men are distributing books</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with GBC members -- March 2-3, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation with GBC members -- March 2-3, 1977, Mayapura]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with GBC members -- March 2-3, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation with GBC members -- March 2-3, 1977, Mayapura]]:''' |
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| Satsvarūpa: More resolutions about book distribution. The temple presidents, in order to control the techniques of book distribution, whether they are going against our resolution not to use illegal techniques, the presidents should go out on a monthly basis and observe their own book distributors, how they distribute books in the field. And also the GBC man should go out in each of his temples in his zone at least once during the year to see how the men are distributing books. And if a temple continues some illegal technique for book distribution, the BBT trustees are responsible to do the needful to rectify it. | | Satsvarūpa: More resolutions about book distribution. The temple presidents, in order to control the techniques of book distribution, whether they are going against our resolution not to use illegal techniques, the presidents should go out on a monthly basis and observe their own book distributors, how they distribute books in the field. And also the GBC man should go out in each of his temples in his zone at least once during the year to see how the men are distributing books. And if a temple continues some illegal technique for book distribution, the BBT trustees are responsible to do the needful to rectify it. |
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| | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Room Conversation -- October 27, 1977, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation -- October 27, 1977, Vrndavana"> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- October 27, 1977, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- October 27, 1977, Vrndavana]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- October 27, 1977, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- October 27, 1977, Vrndavana]]:''' |
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| Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What will they give? Will they give you a letter officially, or something? | | Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What will they give? Will they give you a letter officially, or something? |
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