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| <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2></div> | | [[Category:First of All]] |
| <div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div> | | [[Category:Understanding Krsna]] |
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| | <div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> |
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| <div id="RoomConversationAugust161976Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="269" link="Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay"> | | <div id="RoomConversationAugust161976Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="269" link="Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay"> |
| <div class="heading">You should go gradually. You first of all understand Kṛṣṇa, then kṛṣṇa-līlā.</div> | | <div class="heading">Not that "Here is Rādhā-kuṇḍa. Let us go." Jump over like monkey. "Here is rāsa-līlā. Immediately..." You should go gradually. You first of all understand Kṛṣṇa, then kṛṣṇa-līlā. |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay|Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Avyabhicāriṇī, yes. Māṁ ca yo 'vyabhicāreṇa bhakti-yogena sevate. Avyabhicāreṇa. Sa guṇān samatītyaitān brahma-bhūyāya kalpate ([[Vanisource:BG 14.26|BG 14.26]]). He is above three guṇas. So if I am still under the modes of material nature, that means I'm not in avyabhicāriṇī-bhakti. This is the warning. Therefore Lord Buddha rejected Vedas.</p> | | </div> |
| <p>Dr. Patel: Because, sir, in the name of Veda people were misbehaving.</p>
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay|Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: Because, sir, in the name of Veda people were misbehaving.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Vedas, when Lord Buddha wanted stop animal killing, these rascals came with Vedas. "Vedas there is sacrifice, there is animal killing." So he thought that these rascals will create botheration. By bringing Vedas, there is... He said, "I don't care for it."</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Vedas, when Lord Buddha wanted stop animal killing, these rascals came with Vedas. "Vedas there is sacrifice, there is animal killing." So he thought that these rascals will create botheration. By bringing Vedas, there is... He said, "I don't care for it."</p> |
| :veda nā māniyā bauddha haya ta nāstika | | :veda nā māniyā bauddha haya ta nāstika |
| :vedāśraya nāstikya-vāda bauddhake adhika | | :vedāśraya nāstikya-vāda bauddhake adhika |
| <p>Similarly, these rascals are giving evidence of Rūpa Gosvāmī's advice, that "Here is Rādhā-kuṇḍa..." But whether you have followed other things.</p> | | <p>Similarly, these rascals are giving evidence of Rūpa Gosvāmī's advice, that "Here is Rādhā-kuṇḍa..." But whether you have followed other things.</p> |
| <p>Guest: Vāco vegaṁ manasaḥ...</p> | | <p>Guest: Vāco vegaṁ manasaḥ...</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Vāco vegaṁ manasaḥ krodha-vegaṁ, pṛthivīṁ sa śiṣyāt. Etān vegān yo viṣa... You are manipulated by the udara-vegam, upastha-vegam. First there is test: etān vegān yo viṣaheta dhīraḥ ([[Vanisource:NOI 1|NOI 1]]). Then for him Rādhā-kuṇḍa. Dhīras tatra na muhyati ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13|BG 2.13]]). He has got three dozen sevā-dāsī, and living in Rādhā-kuṇḍa. My Guru Mahārāja wanted to publish Govinda-līlāmṛta. He asked permission of Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura. So first of all Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, "I'll tell you some day." And when he reminded, he said, "Yes you can print one copy. If you are so much anxious to print it, print one copy. You'll read and you will see that you have printed. Not for distribution." So we are printing all these books for understanding properly. Not that "Here is Rādhā-kuṇḍa. Let us go." Jump over like monkey. "Here is rāsa-līlā. Immediately..."</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Vāco vegaṁ manasaḥ krodha-vegaṁ, pṛthivīṁ sa śiṣyāt. Etān vegān yo viṣa... You are manipulated by the udara-vegam, upastha-vegam. First there is test: etān vegān yo viṣaheta dhīraḥ ([[Vanisource:NOI 1|NOI 1]]). Then for him Rādhā-kuṇḍa. Dhīras tatra na muhyati ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]). He has got three dozen sevā-dāsī, and living in Rādhā-kuṇḍa. My Guru Mahārāja wanted to publish Govinda-līlāmṛta. He asked permission of Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura. So first of all Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, "I'll tell you some day." And when he reminded, he said, "Yes you can print one copy. If you are so much anxious to print it, print one copy. You'll read and you will see that you have printed. Not for distribution." So we are printing all these books for understanding properly. Not that "Here is Rādhā-kuṇḍa. Let us go." Jump over like monkey. "Here is rāsa-līlā. Immediately..."</p> |
| <p>Acyutānanda: Even in Kṛṣṇa book rāsa-līlā should not be told in public.</p> | | <p>Acyutānanda: Even in Kṛṣṇa book rāsa-līlā should not be told in public.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: No, why? Kṛṣṇa book must be there, in the book must be there.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: No, why? Kṛṣṇa book must be there, in the book must be there.</p> |
| <p>Acyutānanda: But in public...</p> | | <p>Acyutānanda: But in public...</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: But you should go gradually. You should go gradually. You first of all understand Kṛṣṇa, then kṛṣṇa-līlā. If you have not understood Kṛṣṇa, then you'll think Kṛṣṇa's rāsa-līlā is just like we mix with young women. And that becomes as polluted. Because they do not understand Kṛṣṇa. Manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye yatatām api siddhānām ([[Vanisource:BG 7.3|BG 7.3]]). Kṛṣṇa understanding so easy? If you do not understand Kṛṣṇa how can you go to the Kṛṣṇa's confidential activities?</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: But you should go gradually. You should go gradually. You first of all understand Kṛṣṇa, then kṛṣṇa-līlā. If you have not understood Kṛṣṇa, then you'll think Kṛṣṇa's rāsa-līlā is just like we mix with young women. And that becomes as polluted. Because they do not understand Kṛṣṇa. Manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye yatatām api siddhānām ([[Vanisource:BG 7.3 (1972)|BG 7.3]]). Kṛṣṇa understanding so easy? If you do not understand Kṛṣṇa how can you go to the Kṛṣṇa's confidential activities?</p> |
| <p>Acyutānanda: Some of the devotees, they said that it is for liberated souls. So they said, "Well, we are all liberated."</p> | | <p>Acyutānanda: Some of the devotees, they said that it is for liberated souls. So they said, "Well, we are all liberated."</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Liberated for going to hell.</p></div> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Liberated for going to hell.</p> |
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