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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam" class="section" sec_index="1" parent="compilation" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam"><h2>Srimad-Bhagavatam</h2>
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<div id="SB_Canto_1" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 1"><h3>SB Canto 1</h3>
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<div id="SB1510_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_1" book="SB" index="141" link="SB 1.5.10" link_text="SB 1.5.10">
<div class="heading">Crows and swans are not birds of the same feather because of their different mental attitudes. The fruitive workers or passionate men are compared to the crows, whereas the all-perfect saintly persons are compared to the swans.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 1.5.10|SB 1.5.10, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Crows and swans are not birds of the same feather because of their different mental attitudes. The fruitive workers or passionate men are compared to the crows, whereas the all-perfect saintly persons are compared to the swans. The crows take pleasure in a place where garbage is thrown out, just as the passionate fruitive workers take pleasure in wine and woman and places for gross sense pleasure. The swans do not take pleasure in the places where crows are assembled for conferences and meetings. They are instead seen in the atmosphere of natural scenic beauty where there are transparent reservoirs of water nicely decorated with stems of lotus flowers in variegated colors of natural beauty. That is the difference between the two classes of birds.</p>
<p>Nature has influenced different species of life with different mentalities, and it is not possible to bring them up into the same rank and file.</p>
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<div id="SB1510_1" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_1" book="SB" index="141" link="SB 1.5.10" link_text="SB 1.5.10">
<div class="heading">Mostly the market literatures which attract men of the crow's categories are literatures containing refused remnants of sensuous topics. Spiritually advanced men who are compared to the swans do not take pleasure in such dead literatures, which are sources of pleasure for men who are spiritually dead.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 1.5.10|SB 1.5.10, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Similarly, there are different kinds of literature for different types of men of different mentality. Mostly the market literatures which attract men of the crow's categories are literatures containing refused remnants of sensuous topics. They are generally known as mundane talks in relation with the gross body and subtle mind. They are full of subject matter described in decorative language full of mundane similes and metaphorical arrangements. Yet with all that, they do not glorify the Lord. Such poetry and prose, on any subject matter, is considered decoration of a dead body. Spiritually advanced men who are compared to the swans do not take pleasure in such dead literatures, which are sources of pleasure for men who are spiritually dead. These literatures in the modes of passion and ignorance are distributed under different labels, but they can hardly help the spiritual urge of the human being, and thus the swanlike spiritually advanced men have nothing to do with them. Such spiritually advanced men are called also mānasa because they always keep up the standard of transcendental voluntary service to the Lord on the spiritual plane. This completely forbids fruitive activities for gross bodily sense satisfaction or subtle speculation of the material egoistic mind.</p>
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<div id="SB_Canto_4" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 4"><h3>SB Canto 4</h3>
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<div id="SB4964_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_4" book="SB" index="429" link="SB 4.9.64" link_text="SB 4.9.64">
<div class="heading">By the beautifully positioned garden houses there were many luxuriant birds, such as swans, cakravākas, kāraṇḍavas and cranes. These birds generally do not live in filthy places like crows do.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 4.9.64|SB 4.9.64, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">There were emerald staircases which led to lakes full of variously colored lotus flowers and lilies, and swans, kāraṇḍavas, cakravākas, cranes and similar other valuable birds were visible in those lakes.</p>
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<div class="purport text"><p>It appears that not only was the palace surrounded by compounds and gardens with varieties of trees, but there were small man-made lakes also, where the water was full of many-colored lotus flowers and lilies, and to get down to the lakes there were staircases made of valuable jewels such as emeralds. By the beautifully positioned garden houses there were many luxuriant birds, such as swans, cakravākas, kāraṇḍavas and cranes. These birds generally do not live in filthy places like crows do. The atmosphere of the city was very healthy and beautiful; it can simply be imagined from its description.</p>
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<div id="SB42421_1" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_4" book="SB" index="1002" link="SB 4.24.21" link_text="SB 4.24.21">
<div class="heading">Birds like swans and cranes, who enjoy clear waters and lotus flowers, are different from crows, who enjoy filthy places.
Similarly, there are persons who are controlled by the modes of ignorance and passion and those who are controlled by the mode of goodness.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 4.24.21|SB 4.24.21, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The word ākaram ("mine") is significant in this verse, for the reservoir of water appeared like a mine from which different types of lotus flowers were produced. Some of the lotus flowers grew during the day, some at night and some in the evening, and accordingly they had different names and different colors. All these flowers were present on that lake, and because the lake was so calm and quiet and filled with lotus flowers, superior birds, like swans, cakravākas and kāraṇḍavas, stood on the shores and vibrated their different songs, making the entire scene attractive and beautiful. As there are different types of human beings, according to the association of the three qualities of material nature, there are similarly different types of birds, bees, trees, etc. Everything is divided according to the three qualities of material nature. Birds like swans and cranes, who enjoy clear waters and lotus flowers, are different from crows, who enjoy filthy places. Similarly, there are persons who are controlled by the modes of ignorance and passion and those who are controlled by the mode of goodness. The creation is so varied that there are always varieties found in every society. Thus on the bank of this lake all the superior birds lived to enjoy that atmosphere created by that great reservoir filled with lotus flowers.</p>
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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2>
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonBG211LondonAugust171973_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="48" link="Lecture on BG 2.11 -- London, August 17, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.11 -- London, August 17, 1973">
<div class="heading">Amongst the birds, this crow is sinful bird. And the ducks, white swan, they are pious bird.
So similarly in the human society also, there are pious men and sinful men.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.11 -- London, August 17, 1973|Lecture on BG 2.11 -- London, August 17, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Amongst the trees also there are pious trees, there are sinful trees, amongst the animals also there are pious animals, sinful animals. Just like dog and the cow. Cow is pious animal and the dog is sinful animal. So natures, amongst the birds, this crow is sinful bird. And the ducks, white swan, they are pious bird. The peacocks. So similarly in the human society also, there are pious men and sinful men. Those who are pious they have got different position. Janmaiśvarya-śruta-śrī.... ([[Vanisource:SB 1.8.26|SB 1.8.26]]) Pious man means born in very good family, rich family. Janma, aiśvarya, aiśvarya means riches, opulence. Janma, first-class aristocratic family, brāhmaṇa family. Janmaiśvarya-śruta, educated, highly educated; śrī, beautiful. These are the signs of pious life. And similarly just the opposite, ugly, no education, born in poor family or low grade family, poor. These are the things.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG226LosAngelesDecember61968_1" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="91" link="Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Los Angeles, December 6, 1968" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Los Angeles, December 6, 1968">
<div class="heading">That rubbish literature is compared with the enjoyable things of the crows, and spiritual literature, they are enjoyed by the white swans.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Los Angeles, December 6, 1968|Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Los Angeles, December 6, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That rubbish literature is compared with the enjoyable things of the crows, and spiritual literature, they are enjoyed by the white swans. There is difference between the white swans. You have seen natural. They are also birds, crows are also birds. But you'll see white swans, they take pleasure in clear water where there are lilies, and they take nice pleasure there. And crows they will go, where you throw all rubbish things, they'll go there. You see nature. People say everyone is equal. How you can say equal? Even in the bird society there is no equality, in the animal society there is no equality. Then how you can make equality? On the material platform it is not possible. You have to come to the spiritual platform; then equality is possible.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG1841StockholmSeptember71973_2" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="403" link="Lecture on BG 18.41 -- Stockholm, September 7, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 18.41 -- Stockholm, September 7, 1973">
<div class="heading">The swans will try to reside in a place where there is very clean water, flowers, good trees, nice arrangement parking. Crows go to the place where all garbages are there. So there is division actually, taste.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 18.41 -- Stockholm, September 7, 1973|Lecture on BG 18.41 -- Stockholm, September 7, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Now there is a hobby that classless society. Classless society cannot be. That is not possible. So long you are in the material world there must be classes. By nature, there is. Just like even in birds, there are a class of birds known as the crows and there is a class of birds which are called the swans. The swans will try to reside in a place where there is very clean water, flowers, good trees, nice arrangement parking. So they will flock there. Birds of the same feather flock together. And the crows, the will flock... In your country you don't find many crows, but in India there are many crows. They go to the place where all garbages are there. They'll enjoy there. So there is division actually, taste. But one thing is, that the human form of body, although there is natural such division, but one can be raised to the higher position by this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. So far material body is concerned, you cannot change the quality. This is already. One has got the particular type of body by nature's arrangement according to the quality. According to the quality. Now, if you want to change him to the better quality, then you have to accept this Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Because Kṛṣṇa consciousness is on the spiritual platform. It has nothing to do with the material platform. From the material platform, you cannot change anyone's quality.</p>
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonSB15911NewVrindabanJune61969_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="134" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.9-11 -- New Vrindaban, June 6, 1969" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.9-11 -- New Vrindaban, June 6, 1969">
<div class="heading">This sort of literature, nonsense literature, are enjoyed by persons who are just like crows. Not, what is called, swan. Swan will not go to that place.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.9-11 -- New Vrindaban, June 6, 1969|Lecture on SB 1.5.9-11 -- New Vrindaban, June 6, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You can write nice books using your literary career, metaphor, and, what is called, so many things. They are producing nice literature. But if there is no glorification of the Lord, then, harer yaśo pragṛṇīta tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham. Then it is just like the place where the crows take pleasure. That's all.</p>
<p>Because such kind of literature will be accepted by men who are like crows. Tad vāyasaṁ tīrthaṁ kāka-tulyānāṁ kāmināṁ yati-sthānam uśanti manyante.(?) Just like kāminām, those who are very lustful, what is their pleasure spot? That vagina, that's all. That urinal. That is their pleasure. Is urinal, is very nice place? But he's sophisticated. He finds, "Oh, this is very nice place." This analytical study, (chuckling) how Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam is revolting, but... (laughter) But we must talk the real thing, (laughing) that this commentator Śrīdhara Svāmī, he has given very nice example: kāmināṁ rati-sthānam. As the lusty man finds pleasure in the vagina, similarly, this sort of literature, nonsense literature, are enjoyed by persons who are just like crows. Not, what is called, swan. Swan will not go to that place. They will search out some place where there is nice transparent water and lotus flower, lilies, and nice trees and good birds. They are taking enjoyment. So even if you see among the animal society, in the bird society there is discrimination, and if in the human society there is no such discrimination, what kind of civilization that is? A crows' civilization. Black crows' civilization. Simply trying to take pleasure in nonsensical clubs, in liquor shop, in so-called cinema. They are trying to take pleasure there.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB15911NewVrindabanJune61969_1" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="134" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.9-11 -- New Vrindaban, June 6, 1969" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.9-11 -- New Vrindaban, June 6, 1969">
<div class="heading">As there is a natural distinction between the crows and the swans, similarly, there is distinction between a Kṛṣṇa conscious person and ordinary person. The ordinary persons are compared like the crows, and a fully Kṛṣṇa conscious person is just like swans and ducks.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.9-11 -- New Vrindaban, June 6, 1969|Lecture on SB 1.5.9-11 -- New Vrindaban, June 6, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śrīdhara Svāmī explains, just like swans, they take pleasure in the mānasa-sarovara, in a place where transparent water, lily and very nice garden. They take pleasure. Yathā prasiddha haṁsa mānasi sarasi carantaḥ kamanīya-padma-khanda-nivāsaḥ.(?) You'll find swans, they will gather near the lotus flower and dive there and entangle them with the stem. That is their pleasure, to remain surrounding the lotus flower.</p>
:kamanīya-padma-khanda-nivāsa tyakta-vicitrannadi
<p>yukto 'py ucchista-garte kāka-krīḍa-sthāne na niramanti(?)</p>
<p>They are not like the crows, who are simply trying to take some pleasure from the garbage place. That's all. What is there in the garbage? They are all rejected, thrown away. But the crows will go there. They'll pull on something, "If there is something there, something?" So, as there is a natural distinction between the crows and the swans, similarly, there is distinction between a Kṛṣṇa conscious person and ordinary person. The ordinary persons are compared like the crows, and a fully Kṛṣṇa conscious person is just like swans and ducks.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1511NewVrindabanJune101969_2" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="135" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.11 -- New Vrindaban, June 10, 1969" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.11 -- New Vrindaban, June 10, 1969">
<div class="heading">Nārada Muni chastised Vyāsadeva, that "Your composition will be liked by the crow class men, not the swan class men."
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.11 -- New Vrindaban, June 10, 1969|Lecture on SB 1.5.11 -- New Vrindaban, June 10, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śṛṇvanti gāyanti. This is the distinction. One side, however nice it may be, poetically, rhetorically, but if there is no glorification of the unlimited Supreme Lord, it is rejected by the haṁsas. The... Just like the play, pleasure hunting place for the crows is never accepted by the swans, similarly these kinds of literature...</p>
<p>Now you try to understand how Nārada Muni is chastising his disciple like Vyāsadeva, that "You have created some literature which will be enjoyed by the crow class men." You see. Just see. He compiled Vedānta-sūtra. Still, Nārada Muni chastised him that "Your composition will be liked by the crow class men, not the swan class men." You see.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1511NewVrindabanJune101969_3" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="135" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.11 -- New Vrindaban, June 10, 1969" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.11 -- New Vrindaban, June 10, 1969">
<div class="heading">Vyāsadeva could understand that "What fault I have done by writing this Vedānta-sūtra because that will be misinterpreted by the crow class men. Therefore I must write my own commentary of the Vedānta-sūtra so that swan class men will enjoy it."
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.11 -- New Vrindaban, June 10, 1969|Lecture on SB 1.5.11 -- New Vrindaban, June 10, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Vedānta Society. But we, actually we find they are enjoyed by a crow class men. Because they do not know what was the intention of writing Vedānta philosophy. That Vedānta philosophy explanation is Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. Vyāsadeva actually did it. Bhāṣyaṁ brahma-sūtrāṇām. This is... Therefore Bhāgavata, it begins with the first aphorism of Vedānta-sūtra: janmādy asya yataḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 1.1.1|SB 1.1.1]]). The author himself explains because he knew under, after the instruction of Nārada Muni he could understand that "What fault I have done by writing this Vedānta-sūtra because that will (be) misinterpreted by the crow class men. Therefore I must write my own commentary of the Vedānta-sūtra so that swan class men will enjoy it." That is the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.</p>
<p>Yasmin, yaśasaṁ gṛṇanti atre tu yad yāni nāmāni sādhavo mahanto vaktari sati śṛṇvanti śrotari sati gṛṇanti, anyathā tu svayam eva gāyanti kīrtayanti.(?) So indirectly he hinted that: "You should compile one first-class literature which the swan class men will hear, will chant and enjoy. So far, what you have done, that will be enjoyed by the crow class men. But you do something which will be enjoyed by the... Then you will be satisfied. Otherwise, you'll not be satisfied." That was his indirect hint. "You are not satisfied by, even after compiling Vedānta-sūtra. That means, that indicates that these literatures will not be satisfactory for the swan class of men, or paramahaṁsa." Paramahaṁsa means the topmost transcendentalists.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1511NewVrindabanJune101969_4" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="135" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.11 -- New Vrindaban, June 10, 1969" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.11 -- New Vrindaban, June 10, 1969">
<div class="heading">"What you have done this, literature for the crowlike persons. Do something for the swanlike persons."
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.11 -- New Vrindaban, June 10, 1969|Lecture on SB 1.5.11 -- New Vrindaban, June 10, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So Nārada Muni is advising that "You do something which will be accepted." Śṛṇvanti gāyanti gṛṇanti sādhavaḥ. "Do something for the saintly persons, transcendentalists. What you have done this, literature for the crowlike persons. Do something for the swanlike persons." Na śobhate jñānam alaṁ nirañjanam.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB151213NewVrindabanJune111969_5" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="137" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.12-13 -- New Vrindaban, June 11, 1969" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.12-13 -- New Vrindaban, June 11, 1969">
<div class="heading">Just like the swans, they do not take pleasure in a place where the crows can take pleasure. As there is distinction between the crows and the swans, similarly, those who are saintly persons, those who are Kṛṣṇa conscious persons, their taste is different from the persons who are just like crows.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.12-13 -- New Vrindaban, June 11, 1969|Lecture on SB 1.5.12-13 -- New Vrindaban, June 11, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Now Vyāsadeva is discussing different kinds of literature. So he has explained that any literature, however nicely prepared from rhetorical point of view, or poetical, metaphorical, grammatical, but if there is no information of the Absolute Truth, such literatures are useless and no saintly person will take any interest in such literature. They give it up. Just like the swans, they do not take pleasure in a place where the crows can take pleasure. As there is distinction between the crows and the swans, even in the bird's kingdom, or even in the animal kingdom... You'll find always. The different kinds of varieties of birds and beasts, they live together. Similarly, those who are saintly persons, those who are Kṛṣṇa conscious persons, their taste is different from the persons who are just like crows. Crows are interested in things... Carvita-carvaṇānām. Prahlāda Mahārāja says, "chewing the chewed." Already it has been chewed, and if somebody wants to try it, "Let me see. What is the taste there?" it is useless labor only.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1833LosAngelesApril251972_6" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="228" link="Lecture on SB 1.8.33 -- Los Angeles, April 25, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.8.33 -- Los Angeles, April 25, 1972">
<div class="heading">Natural division. The crow will not go to the swan. The swan will not go to the crow. Similarly in the human society, there are crow class men and swan class men.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.8.33 -- Los Angeles, April 25, 1972|Lecture on SB 1.8.33 -- Los Angeles, April 25, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham. Any literature which has no connection with the knowledge of God, tad, tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham, that is just like the place where the crows take enjoyment. Where the crows take enjoyment? In the filthy place. And the swans, the white swans, they take pleasure in a nice, clear water where there is garden. where is birds.</p>
<p>So there are, even in the animals, there are divisions. Swan class and crow class. Natural division. The crow will not go to the swan. The swan will not go to the crow. Similarly in the human society, there are crow class men and swan class men. The swan class men will come here because here everything is clear, nice, good philosophy, good food, good education, good dress, good mind, everything good. And crow class men will go to such and such club, such and such party, naked dance, so many things. You see.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1833LosAngelesApril251972_7" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="228" link="Lecture on SB 1.8.33 -- Los Angeles, April 25, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.8.33 -- Los Angeles, April 25, 1972">
<div class="heading">This Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is meant for the swan class of men. Not for the crow class of men. No. But we can convert the crows into swans.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.8.33 -- Los Angeles, April 25, 1972|Lecture on SB 1.8.33 -- Los Angeles, April 25, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is meant for the swan class of men. Not for the crow class of men. No. But we can convert the crows into swans. That is our philosophy. One who was crow is now swimming like swan. That we can do. That is the benefit of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. So when the swans become crows, that is material world. That is Kṛṣṇa says: yadā yadā hi dharmasya glānir bhavati ([[Vanisource:BG 4.7 (1972)|BG 4.7]]). The living entity is encaged in this material body and he's trying to gratify the senses, one body after another, one body after another, one body, after another. This is the position. And dharma means to gradually turn the crows into swans. That is dharma.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1165LosAngelesJanuary21974_8" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="322" link="Lecture on SB 1.16.5 -- Los Angeles, January 2, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.16.5 -- Los Angeles, January 2, 1974">
<div class="heading">Even in the animals, the birds, you'll find this distinction. Why the crow does not go to the nice garden? And why the swan does not go to the crow society?
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.16.5 -- Los Angeles, January 2, 1974|Lecture on SB 1.16.5 -- Los Angeles, January 2, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So we are not interested with such kind of literature; however from literary point of view, from poetic point of view, they are very nicely written. If there is no kṛṣṇa-kathā, there is no description of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, no devotee should be interested. Even though... Even we do not touch the daily newspaper. Why? Because there no is kṛṣṇa-kathā. One and the same thing, punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.30|SB 7.5.30]]). Repeating the same... "This man was stolen of his property. This politician has said like this. That politician has replied like this. There was disaster. There was fire. There was this..." These news are full with newspaper, so many bunch of papers. So who cares for it? Tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham, crowlike men. Not the swans, white swans. White swans, they go to the very clear water where there is nice garden, nice birds are chirping, nice fruits are there. You will find the white swans will go there, in the park. And the crows will go... Where everything garbage, nasty things are thrown away, they'll enjoy there. Even in the animals, the birds, you'll find this distinction. Why the crow does not go to the nice garden? And why the swan does not go to the crow society?</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1165LosAngelesJanuary21974_9" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="322" link="Lecture on SB 1.16.5 -- Los Angeles, January 2, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.16.5 -- Los Angeles, January 2, 1974">
<div class="heading">There are different classes of men, crow society and swan society. The swan society is different from the crow society. How you can make equal?
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.16.5 -- Los Angeles, January 2, 1974|Lecture on SB 1.16.5 -- Los Angeles, January 2, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So there are different classes of men, crow society and swan society. The swan society is different from the crow society. How you can make equal? The people are making, try to make classless society. It is not possible to make classless society because every living entity is being controlled by a different quality. So the qualitative distinction must be there. You cannot make them classless. It is all imagination. The crow class, the swan class, the pigeon class, the dog class, even in the animals, even in the birds, even in the plants... There is a plant, rose tree, and there are other plants, useless, no fruit, no flower. It is simply meant for becoming fuel. So by nature there are so many distinctions. You cannot make equal everything. This is called variety. But everything is required, provided one knows how to utilize it, and that is possible by Kṛṣṇa conscious person, not by ordinary person. To accept all varieties of creation and engage them in Kṛṣṇa's service, that is Kṛṣṇa consciousness.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB2317LosAngelesJuly121969_10" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="385" link="Lecture on SB 2.3.17 -- Los Angeles, July 12, 1969" link_text="Lecture on SB 2.3.17 -- Los Angeles, July 12, 1969">
<div class="heading">There are classes of men also like crows and like swans. The swans, they will take pleasure in this kind of literature, Vedic literature. And the crowlike men, they will hunt after that rejected garbagelike things.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 2.3.17 -- Los Angeles, July 12, 1969|Lecture on SB 2.3.17 -- Los Angeles, July 12, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Try to understand Bhagavad-gītā as it is. Try to understand Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. These two books will give you sufficient knowledge, and we should take advantage of it, because our consciousness is developed. We should not waste our time simply reading these all nonsense literatures, sex literatures. Simply wasting their time. Tad vayasaṁ tīrtham. To read nonsense ordinary literature and books or newspaper is compared just like the pleasure place of the crows. The crows, they are very much attached to the rejected refuse, garbage. In your country I don't see many crows, but in our country there are many crows, and the garbage section is pleasure, pleasuring place there. Where rejected things, they take pleasure in that. But the swans, the ducks, they take pleasure in clear lake with lily flower, nice garden, and nice birds are chirping. They take pleasure in that place. Similarly, there are classes of men also like crows and like swans. The swans, they will take pleasure in this kind of literature, Vedic literature. And the crowlike men, they will hunt after that rejected garbagelike things. Punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.30|SB 7.5.30]]). What is there in the sex literature? There is no new information; the same sex life, that's all. Sometimes half-naked, sometimes naked, sometimes this, sometimes that, but the central place is sex.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB32512BombayNovember121974_11" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="433" link="Lecture on SB 3.25.12 -- Bombay, November 12, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.25.12 -- Bombay, November 12, 1974">
<div class="heading">Even in the birds' society there are crows and there are swans. Similarly, there are men crowslike, and there are men swanlike. That is nature's division.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.25.12 -- Bombay, November 12, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.25.12 -- Bombay, November 12, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">There are two kinds of kathās: grāmya-kathā and kṛṣṇa-kathā. So any literature which is very nicely presented from literary point of view, metaphorically, figuratively, but there is no glorification of the Supreme Lord... Na yad vacaś citra-padaṁ harer yaśo jagat-pavitraṁ pragṛṇīta karhicit, tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham uśanti mānasāḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 1.5.10|SB 1.5.10]]). That is like the place for pleasure of the crows. Even in the birds' society there are crows and there are swans. You'll find the crows are interested in a place where filthy things are thrown out. All nasty things are thrown out. The crows will come and they will enjoy there. By nature. But the swans will not come. The white swans, they'll require very nice, clear water, with lotus flower in a garden, and birds are chirping. They're interested there. Similarly, there are men crowslike, and there are men swanlike. That is nature's division.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB32512BombayNovember121974_12" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="433" link="Lecture on SB 3.25.12 -- Bombay, November 12, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.25.12 -- Bombay, November 12, 1974">
<div class="heading">The crows will mix with crows, and the swans will mix with swans. Therefore the devotees are swans, and the most advanced devotee is called haṁsa, paramahaṁsa. So those who are haṁsas, they are not interested in the matter for the crows.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.25.12 -- Bombay, November 12, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.25.12 -- Bombay, November 12, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So na yad vacaś citra-padaṁ harer yaśo jagat-pavitraṁ pragṛṇīta karhicit, tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham uśanti mānasāḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 1.5.10|SB 1.5.10]]). Mānasāḥ means those who live in the mānasa-sarovara. In Bombay I don't find any such place, but even in Western countries, especially in London, there are many nice parks, very clear water. And in America also. Wherever these Europeans have settled. In Sydney, Australia, there are many nice parks with water. Formerly, in India also, in old Dvārakā, Mathurā, the parks were there. Parks are necessary for cleansing the mind. So the fact is that as there are classes of birds which are called crows and there are classes of birds which are called swans, white swans... "Birds of the same feather flock together." That is an English proverb. The crows will mix with crows, and the swans will mix with swans. Therefore the devotees are swans, and the most advanced devotee is called haṁsa, paramahaṁsa. Paramahaṁsa. So those who are haṁsas, they are not interested in the matter for the crows. Therefore a haṁsa, a paramahaṁsa, when he hears a question from a person about transcendental, uttamam, śreya uttamam... Tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta jijñāsuḥ śreya uttamam ([[Vanisource:SB 11.3.21|SB 11.3.21]]). A person who is interested to enquire about the transcendental subject matter, kṛṣṇa-kathā, then the person who is questioned, he becomes very glad.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB32512BombayNovember121974_13" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="433" link="Lecture on SB 3.25.12 -- Bombay, November 12, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.25.12 -- Bombay, November 12, 1974">
<div class="heading">Good association required, not the crow's association, but swan's association. Then this sense comes.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.25.12 -- Bombay, November 12, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.25.12 -- Bombay, November 12, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">For apavarga everyone would try. Everyone should try his best. "And what about my maintenance?" To maintenance the śāstra never gives any stress, that "You try for maintenance." The śāstra says, "It will come. It is already there. It will come." But we have no such faith that "God is given..., giving food to the animals, to the birds, to the beasts, to the trees, everyone, and why He shall not give me? Let me engage my time for apavarga." They have no faith. They have no such education. Therefore good association required, not the crow's association, but swan's association. Then this sense comes.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB32512BombayNovember121974_14" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="433" link="Lecture on SB 3.25.12 -- Bombay, November 12, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.25.12 -- Bombay, November 12, 1974">
<div class="heading">This Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement means they are creating a society of swans, not of crows.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.25.12 -- Bombay, November 12, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.25.12 -- Bombay, November 12, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement means they are creating a society of swans, not of crows. Not of crows. The crows are not interested. They are interested in that left-out, I mean to say, garbage. They are interested. Punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.30|SB 7.5.30]]). Punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām. Just like we throw away... After eating, we throw away the leaf. There are some remnants of foodstuff, and the crows come, the dogs comes. They are interested. They will not say... A sane man will not go there. But these crows and dogs will go there. So this world is like that. Punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.30|SB 7.5.30]]). Chewing the chewed. Just like you chew one sugarcane and throw it on the street. But if somebody comes again to chew it, then he's a fool. He must know "The juice has been taken away from that sugarcane. What shall I get by chewing?" But there are animals like that. They want to chew again. So our this material society means chewing the chewed. A father gives education to his son to earning livelihood, gets him married, and settles him, but he knows that "This kind of business, earning money and marrying, begetting children, I have done, but I am not satisfied. So why I am engaging my son in this business?" This is called chewing the chewed. Chewing the same thing.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB6119LosAngelesJanuary151970_15" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="623" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.19 -- Los Angeles, January 15, 1970" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.19 -- Los Angeles, January 15, 1970">
<div class="heading">The swans will never go to the crow or the crow will never go to the swan. In human society also the same natural tendency is there.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.19 -- Los Angeles, January 15, 1970|Lecture on SB 6.1.19 -- Los Angeles, January 15, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So there are eighteen Purāṇas in Vedic literature. Because there are three kinds of living entities... Some of them are in goodness, some of them are in passion, and some of them are in ignorance. For all people, there are different kinds of Purāṇas. Those who are in the modes of passion and ignorance, they cannot generally understand the historical references made in the sattvic Purāṇa. Just like this Bhāgavata, Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, is also one of the Purāṇas, essence of history. Whole history. Similarly, Brahmāṇḍa Purāṇa, Viṣṇu Purāṇa, these are Purāṇas in the modes of goodness. There are different types of people. The example is given just like there are different types of birds. A pigeon class... "Birds of the same feather flocks together." You see? That is natural. The pigeons will flock together and the crows will flock together. The swans will flock together. The swans will never go to the crow or the crow will never go to the swan. In human society also the same natural tendency is there. Of course, now we are becoming more liberal. Otherwise, formerly, the white people will not mix with black people. So this is not new. It is by nature. Everyone has got a particular type of society, environment.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB6119LosAngelesJanuary151970_16" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="623" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.19 -- Los Angeles, January 15, 1970" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.19 -- Los Angeles, January 15, 1970">
<div class="heading">For the crowlike men there are different kinds of literature. And for the swanlike men there are different kinds of literature.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.19 -- Los Angeles, January 15, 1970|Lecture on SB 6.1.19 -- Los Angeles, January 15, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So literatures also, there are different kinds of literature. For the crowlike men there are different kinds of literature. And for the swanlike men there are different kinds of literature. So swanlike men..., swan means haṁsa. From nature's study you can see. The swans, they have got a special qualification. What is that? If you give a swan milk mixed with water, the swan will take out only the milk portion, and the water portion will remain. That means those who are swanlike men, they take the essence, not the adulteration. Similarly, there are elevated persons who are also called paramahaṁsa. Paramahaṁsa. The same example of the haṁsa, swan. Paramahaṁsa means they are interested with the essence of this world, not with the adulteration. What is the adulteration? The adulteration is matter and the essence is spirit.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB6119LosAngelesJanuary151970_17" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="623" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.19 -- Los Angeles, January 15, 1970" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.19 -- Los Angeles, January 15, 1970">
<div class="heading">Why the crows does not do like the swans, and the white swans do not do like these crows? These are the different qualities.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.19 -- Los Angeles, January 15, 1970|Lecture on SB 6.1.19 -- Los Angeles, January 15, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So we have to utilize. The paramahaṁsa means they take the essence. What is the essence of this body? The essence of this body is the spirit soul. So one should try to understand what is science of that spirit soul. They are not interested with the adulteration. Just like the example is given: the swan. The swan takes out the active principle. The swans, they live in a very nice place where there is very clear water, nice garden, nice fruits, flowers, birds chirping. You will find, these white swans are there. When I was in London I saw there was a, there is a nice Regent Park. There are many swans. The park is mostly flower, rose flower, nice park. So they are living there. And the crows, where they live? They'll go where you throw away all nasty things. They will go and enjoy there. You see, the crows. Why? Why the crows does not do like the swans, and the white swans do not do like these crows? These are the different qualities. The whole world is moving in different qualities. Therefore the quality of goodness, that has to be acquired in human form of life. This temple is meant for the persons who are in the quality of goodness, those who are after the essence of the world—paramahaṁsa. And this, our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is also meant for the paramahaṁsas. Not for the crowslike men but swanslike men, those who are white swans, trying to live in a very nice place, clear water, nice tree, nice fruits.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB6132SanFranciscoJuly171975_18" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="654" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.32 -- San Francisco, July 17, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.32 -- San Francisco, July 17, 1975">
<div class="heading">The crow is different from the swan although they are birds. The standard of enjoyment by the crows is different from the standard of enjoyment of the swan.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.32 -- San Francisco, July 17, 1975|Lecture on SB 6.1.32 -- San Francisco, July 17, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So here we are all prisoners within the material world, and some of us are first-class prisoners, and some of us second class, and some of us third class. Therefore, we see the higher class of men in the society, middle class of men in the society, either in human society or even animal society... There is first-class animal, second-class animal, third-class animal. In the trees also, the same work is going on by nature. Prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni guṇaiḥ karmāṇi sarvaśaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 3.27 (1972)|BG 3.27]]). One tree is supplying mango, so this mango tree is respect, and another tree, which is producing nothing, they are cut and made into fuel, because useless, no use. So amongst the trees, also you will find first class, second class, third class. Amongst the birds, beasts, animals, there is... Just like lion. He is also animal, and dog is also animal. They are not on the same level. Amongst the birds there are swans and there are crows. The crow is different from the swan although they are birds. The standard of enjoyment by the crows is different from the standard of enjoyment of the swan, white swan.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB6132SanFranciscoJuly171975_19" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="654" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.32 -- San Francisco, July 17, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.32 -- San Francisco, July 17, 1975">
<div class="heading">We are studying Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam or Bhagavad-gītā. This literature is meant for the swans, not for the crows.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.32 -- San Francisco, July 17, 1975|Lecture on SB 6.1.32 -- San Francisco, July 17, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Now here we are studying Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam or Bhagavad-gītā. This is... This literature is meant for the swans, not for the crows. That is the division. And other literatures, sex literatures and these criminal literatures—there are so many literatures—they are meant for the crows, crow-class men. And this literature is meant for swan-class of men, swan, paramahaṁsa. We are also reading... We are not interested with the lump of newspaper. We are interested in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB7918MayapurFebruary251976_20" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="825" link="Lecture on SB 7.9.18 -- Mayapur, February 25, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.9.18 -- Mayapur, February 25, 1976">
<div class="heading">Where there is kṛṣṇa-kathā, the crowslike men will not come. Where there is cinema, where there is prostitute dance, where there is drinking, the crowslike men will gather.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.9.18 -- Mayapur, February 25, 1976|Lecture on SB 7.9.18 -- Mayapur, February 25, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Saṅgaḥ means association. Whose association? Pada-yugālaya-haṁsa. One who is... Because Kṛṣṇa's feet is compared as lotus—"lotus feet," we say—so where there is lotus, there is haṁsa, swan. Swan, you'll find. That is the difference between the crows and the swan. Crows gather in a place, filthy place, where all rotten things are kept. The crows come there. Where all rotten things are there, all the crows will come. But when there is lotus, the crows will not go there; the haṁsa, swan, they'll go there. Even in the bird society there are classes: crow society, swan society, pigeon society, sparrow society. Everyone has got society. But one society is different from another society. Similarly, where there is kṛṣṇa-kathā, the crowslike men will not come. Where there is cinema, where there is prostitute dance, where there is drinking, the crowslike men will gather. Tad vāyasa-tīrtham. Tad vāyasa... Vāyasa means crows. So, na tad vacaś citra-padaṁ harer yaśo pragṛṇīta karhicit, tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham. Any literature, very nicely written, just like Shakespeare writing or some other, big, big mundane writers, their writing, it is very nicely written, grammatically very correct, and metaphorically very nicely meant... Na tad vacaś citra-padam. Citra-padam means very artistically written. There are literatures very artistical. Na tad vacaś citra-padaṁ harer yaśo pragṛṇīta karhicit. But there is no glorification of the Lord; simply literary presentation. Such kind of literature is described, tad vāyasa-tīrtham: "This kind of literature is preferred by the class of men who are like crows." Crows. But the Vedic literature, which is sung by Lord Brahmā or Lord Śiva or a devotee, even that is broken language presented, tad gṛṇanti śṛṇvanti sādhavaḥ: "They'll be accepted by saintly person. They'll sing it and they'll accept it." That is the secret of success.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB7918MayapurFebruary251976_21" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="825" link="Lecture on SB 7.9.18 -- Mayapur, February 25, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.9.18 -- Mayapur, February 25, 1976">
<div class="heading">Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam is not for the enjoyment of the crowslike men. It must be swan.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.9.18 -- Mayapur, February 25, 1976|Lecture on SB 7.9.18 -- Mayapur, February 25, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Just like we are reading now Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. This is līlā-kathā of Kṛṣṇa and His devotee, Prahlāda Mahārāja. This is līlā, exchange of dealings between devotee and the Lord. The whole Bhāgavata, it is called Bhāgavata, why? The only subject matter is Bhagavān and bhakta. That's all. Bhagavān is the Lord, and bhakta is devotee. It has no other. You won't find any newspaper item, that "There was earthquake in London," and this and that. You don't find all these things. It is not like that, tad vāyasa-tīrtham, not for the enjoyment of the crowslike men. It must be swan, haṁsa. Haṁsa.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB7918MayapurFebruary251976_22" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="825" link="Lecture on SB 7.9.18 -- Mayapur, February 25, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.9.18 -- Mayapur, February 25, 1976">
<div class="heading">Everywhere is Kṛṣṇa. Even in this material world there is Kṛṣṇa, but the haṁsa can take it, not the crows. The crows cannot take it. Therefore difference between the crows and haṁsas (swans).
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.9.18 -- Mayapur, February 25, 1976|Lecture on SB 7.9.18 -- Mayapur, February 25, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Why haṁsa is taken, paramahaṁsa? Haṁsa has the capacity... Haṁsa means swan. He has got capacity. If you give to the haṁsa milk mixed with water, the haṁsa has got the capacity, so it will drink the milk and reject the water. Therefore haṁsa. And paramahaṁsa, paramahaṁsa means although they are in the material world, they have kicked out the material things, but he has taken Kṛṣṇa. That's all. Kṛṣṇa is there. Everywhere is Kṛṣṇa. Īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam ([[Vanisource:ISO 1|ISO 1]]). Even in this material world there is Kṛṣṇa, but the haṁsa can take it, not the crows. The crows cannot take it. Therefore difference between the crows and haṁsas. So those who are in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, they are being trained up to become haṁsas, or they are haṁsas. They don't care for anything, material thing. They are concerned with Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="General_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Lectures" text="General Lectures"><h3>General Lectures</h3>
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<div id="PandalLectureBombayApril71971_0" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="81" link="Pandal Lecture -- Bombay, April 7, 1971" link_text="Pandal Lecture -- Bombay, April 7, 1971">
<div class="heading">Bhāgavata says, "Such literary productions where there is no glorification of the Supreme Lord, it is just like the enjoyable spot of the crows." Glorification of Kṛṣṇa will be enjoyed by a class of men who are called swans or paramahaṁsas.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Pandal Lecture -- Bombay, April 7, 1971|Pandal Lecture -- Bombay, April 7, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The Bhāgavata says that "You can produce a nice book by mental concoction and speculation with nice grammatical and metaphorical arrangement, but if there is no glorification of Kṛṣṇa, then it is..." What is, like that? Tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham: "This is a place where you throw away all nasty things." After your mucus or any, all nasty things you throw away, the crows will come there. They will enjoy. Therefore Bhāgavata says, "Such literary productions where there is no glorification of the Supreme Lord, it is just like the enjoyable spot of the crows." But there is another class of birth who are called swans, rāja-haṁsa. They will not come there. They will not come there and enjoy with the crows. This is natural division. They will go in a place where there is very clear reservoir of water, nice trees, nice fruits and flowers, nice birds, mānasa-tīrthas, mānasa-gaṅgā, like that. They will enjoy there. Similarly, this mental speculation, huge, huge books, will be enjoyed by a class of men who are compared with the crows. But glorification of Kṛṣṇa will be enjoyed by a class of men who are called swans or paramahaṁsas.</p>
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<div id="PandalLectureBombayApril111971_1" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="83" link="Pandal Lecture -- Bombay, April 11, 1971" link_text="Pandal Lecture -- Bombay, April 11, 1971">
<div class="heading">As there are differences between the crows and the swans, similarly there are different persons in the human society. So that divisions will continue so long we are in this material world.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Pandal Lecture -- Bombay, April 11, 1971|Pandal Lecture -- Bombay, April 11, 1971]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: The thing is, there are three qualities of men, and each one's feeling of pleasure is different. Just like there are crows, and there are swans. The crows take pleasure in a different way, and the swans take pleasure in a different way. That is natural. The crows are different from the swans, although they are birds, but because they are being conducted under different qualities of nature, their propensities are also different. So one may take pleasure by howling and drinking, and one man takes pleasure by chanting and dancing in Hare Kṛṣṇa. It is a different quality only. So in the Bhagavad-gītā everything is divided into three divisions. There are religions of different qualities, and there are actions of different qualities. Exactly the same example: as there are differences between the crows and the swans, similarly there are different persons in the human society. One class of person, they take pleasure in one class of thing, and another person, they take in a different type. So that divisions will continue so long we are in this material world. But we are talking of original consciousness. These are contaminated consciousness. When we come to the original consciousness, that is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. We are trying to bring everyone to that platform.</p>
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<div id="Departure_Talks" class="sub_section" sec_index="12" parent="Lectures" text="Departure Talks"><h3>Departure Talks</h3>
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<div id="DepartureLectureLondonMarch121975_0" class="quote" parent="Departure_Talks" book="Lec" index="5" link="Departure Lecture -- London, March 12, 1975" link_text="Departure Lecture -- London, March 12, 1975">
<div class="heading">Where the crows go, the swans do not go. And where the swans go, the crows have no access. Similarly, the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is meant for the swans, not for the crows.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Departure Lecture -- London, March 12, 1975|Departure Lecture -- London, March 12, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Just like especially in the Western countries you have got newspaper, big, big bunch of newspaper, but not a single line is there about Kṛṣṇa, not a single. So for the devotees this kind of literature is compared with the garbage. Tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham. Just like vāyasam, crows. The crows gather together where? Where everything nuisance thrown away, they gather together. You will find. That is the nature amongst the class of bird. Where all nasty things are thrown away, the crows will gather. The another bird, swans, they will not go there. The swans will gather in a very nice garden with clear water, lotus flower, and birds, and singing. They will gather there. As there are... By nature, there are different classes of animals, even in the birds, beasts. "The birds of the same feather flock together."</p>
<p>So where the crows go, the swans do not go. And where the swans go, the crows have no access. Similarly, the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is meant for the swans, not for the crows. So try to remain swans, rāja-haṁsa or paramahaṁsa. Haṁsa means swan. Even if we have got this little place, don't go to the place of the crows, the so-called clubs, restaurant, brothel, dancing club, and... People are... Especially in the Western countries, they are very much busy with these places. But don't remain crow. Become swans simply by this process, chanting and hearing about Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="Philosophy_Discussions" class="sub_section" sec_index="13" parent="Lectures" text="Philosophy Discussions"><h3>Philosophy Discussions</h3>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononHenriBergson_0" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="6" link="Philosophy Discussion on Henri Bergson" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Henri Bergson">
<div class="heading">The birds, the crows, they remain together, and the swans remain together. So there is isolation between the swan and the crows. So this isolation will continue because everyone is under different modes of material nature.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Henri Bergson|Philosophy Discussion on Henri Bergson]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hayagrīva: Is this isolation a characteristic only of the lower and middle planetary systems? In the higher planetary system, systems, is there so much isolation?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Isolation is always there. Even in this world there is isolation, even in animals. The birds, the crows, they remain together, and the swans remain together. So there is isolation between the swan and the crows. So this isolation will continue because everyone is under different modes of material nature. There are three modes of material nature. Multiply three by three, it becomes nine. Nine by nine, then it becomes eighty-one. So, prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni ([[Vanisource:BG 3.27 (1972)|BG 3.27]]). So according to the association of  different qualities the isolation is there, but when they come to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, spiritual platform, so there is no more isolation. When everyone is engaged in the service of the Lord, there is no isolation.</p>
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<div id="Purports_to_Songs" class="sub_section" sec_index="14" parent="Lectures" text="Purports to Songs"><h3>Purports to Songs</h3>
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<div id="PurporttoBhajahuReManaLosAngelesMay271972_0" class="quote" parent="Purports_to_Songs" book="Lec" index="28" link="Purport to Bhajahu Re Mana -- Los Angeles, May 27, 1972" link_text="Purport to Bhajahu Re Mana -- Los Angeles, May 27, 1972">
<div class="heading">According to the quality of nature, there are different association in human society. But it is recommended that durlabha mānava sat-saṅge: not with the crows but with the swans.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Purport to Bhajahu Re Mana -- Los Angeles, May 27, 1972|Purport to Bhajahu Re Mana -- Los Angeles, May 27, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So association is very important. Therefore our Kṛṣṇa consciousness society are giving chance people to associate with us, so that he'll be able to understand what is Kṛṣṇa, what is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Therefore Govinda dasa recommends, durlabha mānava-janama-sat-saṅge. Mānava. This human life is durlabha, very rarely obtained. Not dogs' association, crows' association, but swans' association. There are association even by nature. "Birds of the same feather flock together." The crows, they'll mix with crows, and the swans will mix with swan. White swan, very nice water, nice garden, they will like that. The crows will not like that. The crows will like where filthy things are thrown away. They'll take pleasure there. So similarly, according to the quality of nature, there are different association in human society. But it is recommended that durlabha mānava sat-saṅge: not with the crows but with the swans. That association.</p>
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1971 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1971 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationJanuary171971Allahabad_0" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="2" link="Room Conversation -- January 17, 1971, Allahabad" link_text="Room Conversation -- January 17, 1971, Allahabad">
<div class="heading">Even in the bird society there are swans and there are crows, by nature, and the crows will never go to the swans, and the swans will never come to the crows. "Birds of the same feather flock together." Therefore society is required.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 17, 1971, Allahabad|Room Conversation -- January 17, 1971, Allahabad]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So the society is very important thing. Any, anything, society... The businessmen, they have got their association, society, to improve. Therefore the standard of this International Society should be kept very carefully. Then who will come in touch with this society will be improved automatically by association. All right. Even in the bird society there are swans and there are crows, by nature, and the crows will never go to the swans, and the swans will never come to the crows. "Birds of the same feather flock together." Yes. Therefore society required. Unless you come to the Kṛṣṇa consciousness society, how you can develop Kṛṣṇa consciousness? The same principle. Satāṁ prasaṅgān... Satāṁ prasaṅgān mama vīrya-saṁvido bhavanti hṛt-karṇa-rasāyanāḥ kathaḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 3.25.25|SB 3.25.25]]). Vīrya-saṁvidaḥ. It becomes very palatable, satāṁ prasaṅgāt, in the association of devotees, not otherwise.</p>
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<div id="1972_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="5" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1972 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1972 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationIncludingDiscussiononSB1511January191972Jaipur_0" class="quote" parent="1972_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="2" link="Room Conversation Including Discussion on SB 1.5.11 -- January 19, 1972, Jaipur" link_text="Room Conversation Including Discussion on SB 1.5.11 -- January 19, 1972, Jaipur">
<div class="heading">Here are so many sex literatures, very attractive, it is selling like anything. But we are not interested in those rascal literatures. Tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham, such literature is considered as the place of enjoyment of the crows.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation Including Discussion on SB 1.5.11 -- January 19, 1972, Jaipur|Room Conversation Including Discussion on SB 1.5.11 -- January 19, 1972, Jaipur]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Na yad vacaś citra-padaṁ harer yaśaḥ. You can present a literature very perfect from literary point of view, from metaphor and poetical, rhetorical, very perfectly written, citra-padam, attractive by language. Na yad vacaś citra-padam, such kind of literature, if there is no description of the glories of the Lord, na tad vacaś citra-padam. Just like there are so many sex literatures, very attractive, it is selling like anything. But we are not interested in those rascal literatures. Tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham, such literature is considered as the place of enjoyment of the crows. Vāyasam means crow. The crow take enjoyment in the garbage, you have seen? They won't go in a nice place. They will come all together. Just like vultures, they come together to take pleasure in a corpse, dead body. But a white swan, rāja-haṁsa, he goes to a place where there is nice water, lilies and lotus and nice trees. You have seen that St. James Park? They will find out such nice place. They won't go to imitate the crows. The crows-like people will take pleasure in such nonsense literature, sex literature, or any such literature. So many nonsense literatures nowadays they are having good sale. Because people are becoming crows-like, they have no high idea, they have no sense of Kṛṣṇa consciousness, naturally they will take. Just like hippies, they have become all bad taste, crows-like. </p>
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<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril261973LosAngeles_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="15" link="Morning Walk -- April 26, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 26, 1973, Los Angeles">
<div class="heading">The swans and the crows. So expose them as crows.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 26, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- April 26, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Na māṁ prapadyante mūḍhāḥ duṣkṛtino narādhama ([[Vanisource:BG 7.15 (1972)|BG 7.15]]), always engaged in sinful activities. And because they are sinful, they have been given food by nature: "Eat dog. Eat the snail. Eat stool." Are these things eatables? And those who are intelligent, Kṛṣṇa conscious? For them, fruits, flowers, cāpāṭīs, nice things.</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: The swans and the crows.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: The swans and the crows. So expose them as crows.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithDrChristianHauserPsychiatristSeptember101973Stockholm_1" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="73" link="Room Conversation with Dr. Christian Hauser, Psychiatrist -- September 10, 1973, Stockholm" link_text="Room Conversation with Dr. Christian Hauser, Psychiatrist -- September 10, 1973, Stockholm">
<div class="heading">He has no faith in God. He thinks Prabhu Hitler is greater than Lord. That is the difference between the crows and the swans. The crows think that we have got food in the garbage. And the swans think that we have got food in nice garden, in the clear water.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Dr. Christian Hauser, Psychiatrist -- September 10, 1973, Stockholm|Room Conversation with Dr. Christian Hauser, Psychiatrist -- September 10, 1973, Stockholm]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: We are presenting a literature exactly like the newspaper. They are glorifying some Nixon and Dixon. We are glorifying Kṛṣṇa. That is the difference. That is the difference. If Nixon has glorification, how much glorification is there in reserve of the Supreme Lord?</p>
<p>Dr. Hauser: But these Nixons and Dixons and Hitlers and... They have a rather...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is illusion. We are attached to them.</p>
<p>Dr. Hauser: Yes, we are attached to them also because they have power over us. They can persecute us and they can... So it's very...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, the greater power is Kṛṣṇa. If you take shelter of Kṛṣṇa, they cannot do anything. Just like Prahlāda Mahārāja, he was a five years old boy. He took shelter of Kṛṣṇa and his father was a great demon, very powerful. He wanted to chastise his boy. He could not. This is the proof. So you take shelter. Kṛṣṇa says, sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja, ahaṁ tvāṁ sarva-pape... ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66 (1972)|BG 18.66]]). "I give you protection." So people have no faith although He's God. He thinks God is less powerful than Hitler. That is his nonsense. If he takes actually shelter of Kṛṣṇa, what this rascal, Hitler, can do? But he has no faith in God. He thinks Prabhu Hitler is greater than Lord. Prabhu Hitler. That is the difference between the crows and the swans. The crows think that we have got food in the garbage. And the swans think that we have got food in nice garden, in the clear water. And that is difference even in the birds kingdom. That is explained in the previous verse. Na yad vacaś citra-padaṁ harer yaśo, jagat-pavitraṁ pragṛṇīta karhicit, tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham ([[Vanisource:SB 1.5.10|SB 1.5.10]]).</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithDrChristianHauserPsychiatristSeptember101973Stockholm_2" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="73" link="Room Conversation with Dr. Christian Hauser, Psychiatrist -- September 10, 1973, Stockholm" link_text="Room Conversation with Dr. Christian Hauser, Psychiatrist -- September 10, 1973, Stockholm">
<div class="heading">It is a question of taste. Just see birds, two kinds of birds, crows and the swans, different taste. Therefore we are trying to create taste for Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Then these crows' place, newspaper, we'll not touch it unless there is some news of ours.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Dr. Christian Hauser, Psychiatrist -- September 10, 1973, Stockholm|Room Conversation with Dr. Christian Hauser, Psychiatrist -- September 10, 1973, Stockholm]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śrutakīrti: (reads verse, SB 1.5.10)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Translation.</p>
<p>Śrutakīrti: (reads translation)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: It is a question of taste. Just see birds, two kinds of birds, crows and the swans, different taste. Therefore we are trying to create taste for Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Then these crows' place, newspaper, we'll not... We don't read newspaper. We don't touch it unless there is some news of ours. We don't touch it. What is the use of wasting time? They read so big, big bundle of newspaper. But we don't touch them. Oh, we have got (indistinct) literature here. Why should we waste our time in the crows' manifestation? The same politics, same Nixon, same Dixon, same Hitler. It is called punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.30|SB 7.5.30]]), chewing the chewed. Things which have already been chewed and thrown away, another person is crying, "Let me see if there's any juice." But you have already chewed. What juice you find there? Punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.30|SB 7.5.30]]), again and again, same politics, same new leader, same he's a rascal. Just like Nixon advertises in news, "America now requires Nixon." So America accepted him and now America doesn't want him. Again another Nixon will come. This is going on, punaḥ punaḥ, again and again, chewing the chewed. The people are not disgusted but we have tasted all these rascals. Why another Nixon?</p>
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithBhurijanadasaandDisciplesJuly11974Melbourne_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="135" link="Room Conversation with Bhurijana dasa and Disciples -- July 1, 1974, Melbourne" link_text="Room Conversation with Bhurijana dasa and Disciples -- July 1, 1974, Melbourne">
<div class="heading">The cuckoo, they try to eat the mango fruit flower when small, and the crow they eat that nim tree fruit. So amongst the birds also, there is discrimination according to the quality.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Bhurijana dasa and Disciples -- July 1, 1974, Melbourne|Room Conversation with Bhurijana dasa and Disciples -- July 1, 1974, Melbourne]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Two fruits. One fruit is the nim tree fruit. You have seen nim tree? In not your country. Nim tree you have seen in India, and their fruits...</p>
<p>Paramahaṁsa: A little bitter.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, very bitter. So the cuckoo, they try to eat the mango fruit flower when small, and the crow they eat that nim tree fruit. So amongst the birds also, there is discrimination according to the quality. Cuckoo sings very nicely. He is fond of mango fruit. And the crow is fond of this nim tree fruit. The white swan, they live in a very nice garden. There is lake, flower. And the crows, they live in the city. Of course, here in your country the garbage is not open. In India there is thrown anywhere and the crows... You have seen it?</p>
<p>Devotees: Yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: They enjoy that. Tad-vāyasaṁ-tīrtham. It is mentioned in the Bhāgavata. Tad vāyasaṁ-tīrtham. Find out this. No, it is in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. Na tad-vacaś citra-padaṁ harer yaśo pragṛṇīta karhicit tad vāyasaṁ-tīrtham uṣanti mānasāḥ.</p>
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkMay191975Melbourne_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="80" link="Morning Walk -- May 19, 1975, Melbourne" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 19, 1975, Melbourne">
<div class="heading">The literature which does not describe Kṛṣṇa, that is the place for the crows. There is sex literature, they're enjoyed by the crows, and this Bhāgavatam is enjoyed by the swans. That is the difference.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 19, 1975, Melbourne|Morning Walk -- May 19, 1975, Melbourne]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Very nice gardens. Hardly there is such nice botanical gardens in the world. I have seen many botanical... Very nice. (break) This swan is black and the crow is black, but crow's place is different, their place is different, although they are birds. The crows will enjoy a filthy place where all refuses are thrown. I don't think in your country there is many crows. In India, you've seen, all nasty place, that is visited by the crows. It is stated in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, na yad vacaś citra-padaṁ harer yaśo jagat-pavitraṁ pragṛṇīta karhicit, tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham ([[Vanisource:SB 1.5.10|SB 1.5.10]]). The literature which does not describe Kṛṣṇa, that is the place for the crows. There is sex literature, they're enjoyed by the crows, and this Bhāgavatam is enjoyed by the swans. That is the difference. Crow's literature and swan's literature, paramahaṁsa. Paramo nirmatsarāṇāṁ satāṁ vāstavaṁ vastu vedyam atra ([[Vanisource:SB 1.1.2|SB 1.1.2]]). Everyone in this material world, they're envious. Their business is to become envious. I am envious of you, you are envious of me. This is material world. And the paramahaṁsas, Vaiṣṇava, they're kind, they're merciful. "Ah, this fallen soul is suffering for want of Kṛṣṇa. Let us preach." That is the difference. The envious and the nonenvious.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMay271975Honolulu_1" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="92" link="Morning Walk -- May 27, 1975, Honolulu" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 27, 1975, Honolulu">
<div class="heading">The pleasure place of the crows is not meant for the swans. They have got different place. Our books are meant for swans, and all these literatures are meant for the crows.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 27, 1975, Honolulu|Morning Walk -- May 27, 1975, Honolulu]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: They are reading only all rubbish things and becoming rubbish. Let them read these books, and their human life will be perfect. Na yad vacaś citra-padaṁ harer yaśaḥ: ([[Vanisource:SB 1.5.10|SB 1.5.10]]) "The literature which does not give information of the glories of the Lord," tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham, "it is just like the pleasure place of the crows." So these books are meant for the crows, without any right information, without any God's information. Tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham uśanti mānasāḥ.  The swans will not come there. The pleasure place of the crows is not meant for the swans. They have got different place. Our books are meant for swans, and all these literatures are meant for the crows.</p>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="GardenConversationJune141976Detroit_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="134" link="Garden Conversation -- June 14, 1976, Detroit" link_text="Garden Conversation -- June 14, 1976, Detroit">
<div class="heading">The crows means they go the nasty place where all nasty things are thrown. They take pleasure there. So all these other literatures, they are meant for the crows. And this literature is meant for the swan, paramahaṁsa.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Garden Conversation -- June 14, 1976, Detroit|Garden Conversation -- June 14, 1976, Detroit]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham. That is explained in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. Na yad vacaś citra-padaṁ harer yaśo jagat-pavitraṁ pragṛṇīta karhicit, tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham uśanti mānasāḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 1.5.10|SB 1.5.10]]). That verse, that however nicely it is written with..., what is called, metaphor, poetic ornaments and very good language, grammatical set-up, and so on, so on. So that, although it is very nicely written from literary point of view, but because it does not contain any glorification of Kṛṣṇa, it is just like the spot where the crows take pleasure. Crows. The crows means they go the nasty place where all nasty things are thrown. They take pleasure there. So all these other literatures, they are meant for the crows. And this literature is meant for the swan, paramahaṁsa, white swans. So it is not the bodily color. It means those who are advanced in their development of life, consciousness, it is meant for them. It is not for the crows, who are still eating all nasty things in the garbage. Crows, they do that. They take pleasure where there are garbage, all nasty things and.... And the big swans, they will like water like this, garden like this. That is.... Even in the lower animals, there is difference between the crow's society and swan's society.</p>
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkJanuary81977Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="15" link="Morning Walk -- January 8, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- January 8, 1977, Bombay">
<div class="heading">Amongst the birds, these crows are most disliked by everyone. So our present literature and taste of literature is like that, crows. "Ka, ka, ka, ka."
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- January 8, 1977, Bombay|Morning Walk -- January 8, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Satāṁ prasaṅgān mama vīrya-samvido bhavanti hṛt-karṇa-rasāyanāḥ kathāḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 3.25.25|SB 3.25.25]]). Rasāyanāḥ kathāḥ. Unless you discuss Bhāgavata, Bhagavad-gītā, with sat-saṅga, devotees, it does not become relishable. Therefore he's not attached. Tad-vāg-visargo janatāgha-viplavaḥ. In another verse.... Na yad vacaś citra-padaṁ harer yaśo pragṛṇīta karhicit ([[Vanisource:SB 1.5.10|SB 1.5.10]]). He may read one literature very decoratively written, very interesting, but there is no discussion about the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Yad vacaḥ citra-padam, very decorative. Na yad vacaś citra-padaṁ harer yaśo pragṛṇīta karhicit: ([[Vanisource:SB 1.5.10|SB 1.5.10]]) "But there is no glorification of the Lord." Tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham: "Such kind of literature is enjoyable by such persons who are like crows."</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Why?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Crows.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Why crows?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Crows will never come to a nice place. They'll go to the filthy place, where everything rubbish is thrown out. The crow will take advantage of it: "Oh, here is enjoyable thing." Tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham. So we have been educated to become vāyasa,  crows, useless black bird. There are other birds also, but these... Amongst the birds, these crows are most disliked by everyone. So our present literature and taste of literature is like that, crows. "Ka, ka, ka, ka." Even amongst the birds, they'll find swan, white swan. And they're black crows. Nature's division is so nice. Na yad vacaś citra-padaṁ harer yaśo pragṛṇīta karhicit tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham uśanti mānasā ([[Vanisource:SB 1.5.10|SB 1.5.10]]). That is rejected by the mānasā. Mānasā means the birds who live in the māna-sarovara, just like ducks and swans.</p>
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<div id="ConversationonTraintoAllahabadJanuary111977India_1" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="27" link="Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India" link_text="Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India">
<div class="heading">Crows will not like to live with the ducks and white swans. And white swans will not like to live with the crows. That is natural division.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India|Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Crows will not like to live with the ducks and white swans. And white swans will not like to live with the crows. That is natural division. "Birds of the same feather flock together."</p>
<p>Jagadīśa: And honest men don't like to associate with thieves and criminals.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, that is natural. We are not interested even with these daily newspapers. We are interested Bhagavad-gītā. We don't keep any news. We know the dogs are barking. That's all. But that does not mean we have to mix with the dogs.</p>
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<div id="ConversationwithSurendraKumarandOBLKapoorJune261977Vrndavana_2" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="197" link="Conversation with Surendra Kumar and O.B.L. Kapoor -- June 26, 1977, Vrndavana" link_text="Conversation with Surendra Kumar and O.B.L. Kapoor -- June 26, 1977, Vrndavana">
<div class="heading">"Garbage for the crows." Yes. No swan will come there. That is already explained. Kṛṣṇa has at least saved us from reading this garbage.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Surendra Kumar and O.B.L. Kapoor -- June 26, 1977, Vrndavana|Conversation with Surendra Kumar and O.B.L. Kapoor -- June 26, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So these books are there. People are automatically attracted. I don't think they're so attracted to any other books.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, what other books? Rubbish. I say, rubbish. There is no book. Mental speculation is not book. Garbage.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Food for crows.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: (laughs) Yes. It is garbage. Tad-vaga-visarga-janata..., pragrnita, tad vayasa-tīrtham: "Garbage for the crows." Yes. No swan will come there. That is already explained. Kṛṣṇa has at least saved us from reading this garbage. We are not interested with any book or newspaper or anything. We kicked out. At least I am not interested in reading any other except Bhāgavata. That is there. Punaḥ punaś carvi... Sex literature, nonsense. "Phu!" Mukha-vikāraḥ bhava... Tad-avadhi bata nārī-saṅgame smaryamāne bhavati mukha-vikaraḥ suṣṭhu niṣṭhīvanam.</p>
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