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| <div id="RoomConversationwithProfRegamayProfessorofSanskritattheUniversityofLausanneJune41974Geneva_12" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="97" link="Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva" link_text="Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva"> | | <div id="RoomConversationwithProfRegamayProfessorofSanskritattheUniversityofLausanneJune41974Geneva_11" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="97" link="Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva" link_text="Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva"> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva|Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Suppose Christ sometimes ate fish, but that is sufficient reason to maintain big, big slaughterhouse? Because Christ said... And he teached in the desert. Suppose there was no food and he had to eat some fish. So that is his business. He could do it. He is powerful. But does it mean on that strength throughout the whole world the Christians will maintain big, big, up-to-date machinery for slaughterhouse? So it is sinful. So Buddha wanted to stop this nonsense, who were eating and killing animals on the strength of Vedas. They did not know what is the meaning, but they would say in the Vedas it is stated, paśavo vadhyaḥ sṛṣṭaḥ: "The animals are created for being killed." And what purpose it is killed? They, without knowing... Actually, they wanted to satisfy their tongue by eating the flesh, but they would give Vedic evidences. So to stop this nonsense business Buddha said that "I don't care for your Vedas." Nindasi yajña-vidher ahaha śruti-jātam. Śruti-jātam means Vedic injunction.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva|Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Suppose Christ sometimes ate fish, but that is sufficient reason to maintain big, big slaughterhouse? Because Christ said... And he teached in the desert. Suppose there was no food and he had to eat some fish. So that is his business. He could do it. He is powerful. But does it mean on that strength throughout the whole world the Christians will maintain big, big, up-to-date machinery for slaughterhouse? So it is sinful. So Buddha wanted to stop this nonsense, who were eating and killing animals on the strength of Vedas. They did not know what is the meaning, but they would say in the Vedas it is stated, paśavo vadhyaḥ sṛṣṭaḥ: "The animals are created for being killed." And what purpose it is killed? They, without knowing... Actually, they wanted to satisfy their tongue by eating the flesh, but they would give Vedic evidences. So to stop this nonsense business Buddha said that "I don't care for your Vedas." Nindasi yajña-vidher ahaha śruti-jātam. Śruti-jātam means Vedic injunction.</p> |
| <p>Prof. Regamay: Yes.</p> | | <p>Prof. Regamay: Yes.</p> |
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| <div id="RoomConversationwithProfRegamayProfessorofSanskritattheUniversityofLausanneJune41974Geneva_13" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="97" link="Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva" link_text="Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva"> | | <div id="RoomConversationwithProfRegamayProfessorofSanskritattheUniversityofLausanneJune41974Geneva_12" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="97" link="Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva" link_text="Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva"> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva|Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prof. Regamay: I have been struck in Ceylon on seeing in Buddhist temples, Viṣṇu.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva|Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prof. Regamay: I have been struck in Ceylon on seeing in Buddhist temples, Viṣṇu.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Viṣṇu, yes. There are in Penang. Penang also I have seen. They admit that Buddha is the incarnation of Viṣṇu. That is admitted in the śāstra. That means these Ceylonese or Penangese, originally they knew that Buddha is incarnation of Viṣṇu. In Ceylon you have seen?</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Viṣṇu, yes. There are in Penang. Penang also I have seen. They admit that Buddha is the incarnation of Viṣṇu. That is admitted in the śāstra. That means these Ceylonese or Penangese, originally they knew that Buddha is incarnation of Viṣṇu. In Ceylon you have seen?</p> |
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| <div id="RoomConversationwithProfRegamayProfessorofSanskritattheUniversityofLausanneJune41974Geneva_14" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="97" link="Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva" link_text="Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva"> | | <div id="RoomConversationwithProfRegamayProfessorofSanskritattheUniversityofLausanneJune41974Geneva_13" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="97" link="Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva" link_text="Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva"> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva|Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prof. Regamay: And but he said also, the doctrine of Buddha, that man has not person, doesn't exist as person. He's only some moving elements, physical and psychical and nothing else.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva|Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prof. Regamay: And but he said also, the doctrine of Buddha, that man has not person, doesn't exist as person. He's only some moving elements, physical and psychical and nothing else.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Person. He is person. He is person. Lord Buddha is person.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Person. He is person. He is person. Lord Buddha is person.</p> |
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| <div id="RoomConversationwithProfRegamayProfessorofSanskritattheUniversityofLausanneJune41974Geneva_16" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="97" link="Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva" link_text="Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva"> | | <div id="RoomConversationwithProfRegamayProfessorofSanskritattheUniversityofLausanneJune41974Geneva_14" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="97" link="Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva" link_text="Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva"> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva|Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prof. Regamay: But I am struck that, for instance, for us in the West the idea of personal God is strongly rooted in our consciousness.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva|Room Conversation with Prof. Regamay, Professor of Sanskrit at the University of Lausanne -- June 4, 1974, Geneva]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prof. Regamay: But I am struck that, for instance, for us in the West the idea of personal God is strongly rooted in our consciousness.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Lord Jesus Christ, he was Vaiṣṇava. He directly gave you the idea of personal God. The personal God is the origin. Brahmeti paramātmeti bhagavān iti śabdyate ([[Vanisource:SB 1.2.11|SB 1.2.11]]). The... Just like, the same example: the sun god, the sun planet and sunshine, they are one. They are not different. But still, this is impersonal, that is localized, and within the sun globe, there is the sun god. So sun god is the origin of this light. Similarly, Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, He is the origin of everything. Ahaṁ sarvasya prabhavo mattaḥ sarvam ([[Vanisource:BG 10.8|BG 10.8]]). That's the fact. But people with poor fund of knowledge they cannot understand it. Therefore stop... (break) ...light, that's all. So much. Just like Lord Buddha. He did not explain anything about God. He said, "Just obey me and stop this animal killing." Therefore this much sufficient for him, that's all. The lower class students, one plus two equal to three, two plus two..., that much mathematics, not higher mathematics. Higher mathematics is not possible to understand.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Lord Jesus Christ, he was Vaiṣṇava. He directly gave you the idea of personal God. The personal God is the origin. Brahmeti paramātmeti bhagavān iti śabdyate ([[Vanisource:SB 1.2.11|SB 1.2.11]]). The... Just like, the same example: the sun god, the sun planet and sunshine, they are one. They are not different. But still, this is impersonal, that is localized, and within the sun globe, there is the sun god. So sun god is the origin of this light. Similarly, Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, He is the origin of everything. Ahaṁ sarvasya prabhavo mattaḥ sarvam ([[Vanisource:BG 10.8 (1972)|BG 10.8]]). That's the fact. But people with poor fund of knowledge they cannot understand it. Therefore stop... (break) ...light, that's all. So much. Just like Lord Buddha. He did not explain anything about God. He said, "Just obey me and stop this animal killing." Therefore this much sufficient for him, that's all. The lower class students, one plus two equal to three, two plus two..., that much mathematics, not higher mathematics. Higher mathematics is not possible to understand.</p> |
| <p>Prof. Regamay: Yes, of course.</p> | | <p>Prof. Regamay: Yes, of course.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: That's it. But there is higher mathematics. Not one plus two or two plus three, no. There is still higher mathematics. So that is not meant for them. That will be explained, explained in the Bhagavad..., ye yathā māṁ prapadyante tāṁs tathaiva bhajāmy aham ([[Vanisource:BG 4.11|BG 4.11]]). Those who are expert, or sufficient, insufficient knowledge, they cannot understand the Supreme Absolute. That is also confirmed, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19|BG 7.19]]) "After many, many births, when one is actually in full knowledge, he can understand Kṛṣṇa and surrenders unto Him." Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19|BG 7.19]]). So Vedas and scriptures are there, differently, according to different conditions. Now, what Jesus Christ was teaching the people? You can understand. The first injunction is "Thou shalt not kill." So what class of men they were, just you can understand. Otherwise, why he is first of all telling "Thou shalt not kill"? The Mohammed also said, "From this day, there is no sex with your mother." So just see what class of men. So according to class of men, there should be teaching. Similarly, Buddha also, Lord Buddha said, "No, no, there is no God. Just try to understand me. You obey Me." "Yes, sir." It has to be done like that.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: That's it. But there is higher mathematics. Not one plus two or two plus three, no. There is still higher mathematics. So that is not meant for them. That will be explained, explained in the Bhagavad..., ye yathā māṁ prapadyante tāṁs tathaiva bhajāmy aham ([[Vanisource:BG 4.11 (1972)|BG 4.11]]). Those who are expert, or sufficient, insufficient knowledge, they cannot understand the Supreme Absolute. That is also confirmed, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "After many, many births, when one is actually in full knowledge, he can understand Kṛṣṇa and surrenders unto Him." Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). So Vedas and scriptures are there, differently, according to different conditions. Now, what Jesus Christ was teaching the people? You can understand. The first injunction is "Thou shalt not kill." So what class of men they were, just you can understand. Otherwise, why he is first of all telling "Thou shalt not kill"? The Mohammed also said, "From this day, there is no sex with your mother." So just see what class of men. So according to class of men, there should be teaching. Similarly, Buddha also, Lord Buddha said, "No, no, there is no God. Just try to understand me. You obey Me." "Yes, sir." It has to be done like that.</p> |
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| | <div id="RoomConversationwithMrDeshimaruJune131974Paris_15" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="115" link="Room Conversation with Mr. Deshimaru -- June 13, 1974, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Mr. Deshimaru -- June 13, 1974, Paris"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Mr. Deshimaru -- June 13, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation with Mr. Deshimaru -- June 13, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No, so far we know, Lord Buddha is considered as incarnation of God. He was sympathetic with the animal-killing. So he wanted to stop this animal-killing. (French)</p> |
| | <p>Pṛthu Putra: He says he thinks that Buddha was just a man who was searching how to solve the problems of death and life, and when he got some experience he preached this message.</p> |
| | <p>Karandhara: Yes, the Zen school don't accept the preeminence of the personality of Buddha. They say Buddha is just a state of mind, and various men in history have attained that state of mind, that no one particular man was the Buddha, set apart from everyone else.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: At least, he set the example before others. That is not wonderful, but he set the example. Therefore he is original Buddha.</p> |
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| | <div id="RoomConversationwithMrDeshimaruJune131974Paris_16" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="115" link="Room Conversation with Mr. Deshimaru -- June 13, 1974, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Mr. Deshimaru -- June 13, 1974, Paris"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Mr. Deshimaru -- June 13, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation with Mr. Deshimaru -- June 13, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Pṛthu Putra: He says he doesn't give any special meaning to Buddha. Sometimes Buddha is with them, sometimes Buddha is a concept of God like the Christianity they call God, or Buddha is all this disciplic succession. He doesn't give any special meaning to the word Buddha.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: No, no, buddha, actually buddha means knowledge, "one who knows," that is the meaning. So that is existing always. Now, we are talking your (sic:) Jain Buddha. Jain Buddha. No? What is the...?</p> |
| | <p>Karandhara: Zen. Zen's a later development. The school of Zen started...</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: So we are trying to study this Zen Buddha. Buddha means, ordinarily, knowledge. Budhā bhāva-saman...</p> |
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| | <div id="RoomConversationwithMrTranvanKhaandPresidentMembersoftheSocietyofBuddhistsinFranceJune151974Paris_17" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="118" link="Room Conversation with Mr. Tran-van-Kha, and President & Members of the Society of Buddhists in France -- June 15, 1974, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Mr. Tran-van-Kha, and President & Members of the Society of Buddhists in France -- June 15, 1974, Paris"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Mr. Tran-van-Kha, and President & Members of the Society of Buddhists in France -- June 15, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation with Mr. Tran-van-Kha, and President & Members of the Society of Buddhists in France -- June 15, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: We pray Lord Buddha: Nindasi yajña-vidher ahaha śruti-jātam. "My Lord, You, for the time being, You are decrying the Vedic authority."</p> |
| | <p>Pṛthu Putra: (French)</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Nindasi yajña-vidher ahaha śruti-jātam. Śruti-jātam means Vedic rituals. Śruti means Vedas. It is learned by hearing. Why He decried the Vedic rituals? Sadaya-hṛdaya darśita-paśu-ghātam. You are so much compassionate by seeing animals sacrificed. Animal Killing. Sadaya-hṛdaya darśita-paśu-ghātam. Ghātam means killing, so He wanted to stop this animal killing, sinful life. Keśava dhṛta-buddha-śarīra jaya jagadīśa hare. My Lord, You have appeared now as Lord Buddha, I offer my respectful obeisances unto you.</p> |
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| | <div id="RoomConversationwithMrTranvanKhaandPresidentMembersoftheSocietyofBuddhistsinFranceJune151974Paris_18" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="118" link="Room Conversation with Mr. Tran-van-Kha, and President & Members of the Society of Buddhists in France -- June 15, 1974, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Mr. Tran-van-Kha, and President & Members of the Society of Buddhists in France -- June 15, 1974, Paris"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Mr. Tran-van-Kha, and President & Members of the Society of Buddhists in France -- June 15, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation with Mr. Tran-van-Kha, and President & Members of the Society of Buddhists in France -- June 15, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Lady (2): I want to ask you. What does it (indistinct) when you, when there's talk of this religion of Kṛṣṇa. Is it before Christ or more?</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Hmm?</p> |
| | <p>Yogeśvara: This, the question of religion, did it come before Christ or before Buddha?</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes, 5,000 years ago.</p> |
| | <p>Lady (2): Yes, before.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: 5,000 years.</p> |
| | <p>Pṛthu Putra: (translates into French)</p> |
| | <p>Lady (2): 5,000 years, eh?</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: This is now. Before that, this was spoken some millions of years ago to the Sun-god. </p> |
| | </div> |
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| | <div id="RoomConversationwithdevoteesaboutTwelfthCantoKaliyugaandConversationwithGuestJune151974Paris_19" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="119" link="Room Conversation with devotees about Twelfth Canto Kali-yuga, and Conversation with Guest -- June 15, 1974, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with devotees about Twelfth Canto Kali-yuga, and Conversation with Guest -- June 15, 1974, Paris"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with devotees about Twelfth Canto Kali-yuga, and Conversation with Guest -- June 15, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation with devotees about Twelfth Canto Kali-yuga, and Conversation with Guest -- June 15, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: In old age he'll be crippled like that. Then he said that "I am also going to be like that? No. What is the value?" Then he began meditation, how to stop old age. Then he gradually became very great, saintly person, and studied Veda, karma, and by bad karma, one becomes subjected with material tribulation, and the most of the bad karma, he thought, was killing of animals, so he wanted to stop this. That is Buddha's... "Stop animal killing." Sadaya-hṛdaya darśita-paśu-ghātam.</p> |
| | <p>Yogeśvara: He's viṣṇu-tattva?</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: No, he's not viṣṇu-tattva. He's jīva-tattva.</p> |
| | <p>Yogeśvara: Śaktyāveśāvatāra.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Hm.</p> |
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| | <div id="RoomConversationwithdevoteesaboutTwelfthCantoKaliyugaandConversationwithGuestJune151974Paris_20" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="119" link="Room Conversation with devotees about Twelfth Canto Kali-yuga, and Conversation with Guest -- June 15, 1974, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with devotees about Twelfth Canto Kali-yuga, and Conversation with Guest -- June 15, 1974, Paris"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with devotees about Twelfth Canto Kali-yuga, and Conversation with Guest -- June 15, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation with devotees about Twelfth Canto Kali-yuga, and Conversation with Guest -- June 15, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Yogeśvara: Now, one thing is that we accept Buddha as incarnation of Kṛṣṇa on reference from Vedas, but Buddha denied the value of the Vedas.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: That is... When we pray, offer pray, it is stated that that is his, one of the qualifications. Sada... Nindasi. Nindasi yajña-vidher. The animal sacrifice is recommended... Some of the sacrifices or all of them... So that animal sacrifice was not meant for eating. Just to give them new, rejuvenated life by the Vedic mantras, to test that whether Vedic mantras are being chanted properly. And because at the Kali-yuga there is no such expert brāhmaṇa, all sacrifices are forbidden. So later on, as they deteriorated, they began to offer sacrifices, and if anyone wants to stop it, they will say, "Oh, it is recommended in the Vedas." Just like these rascals, Christian: "Oh, Christ ate fish. Therefore we must maintain slaughterhouse." Just see how rascal they are. Supposing Christ ate somewhere fish. Therefore they would maintain regularly slaughterhouse of cows. This is their brain.</p> |
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| | <div id="RoomConversationwithProfessorDurckheimGermanSpiritualWriterJune191974Germany_21" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="123" link="Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany" link_text="Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany|Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Buddhists, they, I think, they... Yes, you are right, impersonal. But their philosophy is to stop all kinds of realization, nirvāṇa. Realization they do not want. They want to stop realization, to become zero. Is it not that?</p> |
| | <p>Professor Durckheim: To become? I didn't understand.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Zero.</p> |
| | <p>Professor Durckheim: Zero, yes. Well, zero from the point of view of the alter ego, but this zero is everything from the outside. From the point of view of the natural ego it's zero, but once you touch it, it's the plenitude, everything. But it's beyond something and everything, as far as I understand it.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes, it is beyond. That beyond is realized, as I explained to you, in different angle of vision. Some, impersonal, without any variety, and some, localized Paramātmā, and some, the Supreme Being. As you are sitting, I am sitting, we are talking, so the Absolute Truth is a person, Supreme Person, Supreme Being, and we approach Him, talk with Him, sit with Him, play with Him. That is Kṛṣṇa realization. First of all, negation of the material varieties, then impersonal realization, then localized realization, then personal realization. Just like a diseased man. First of all cure, then healthy activities. A diseased man has got activities. He also eats, he also sleeps, he also evacuates, but all troublesome. Therefore, being disgusted, he wanted to make everything zero. But if he hears that again sleeping, again eating, again evacuating is healthy life, he thinks it is something like his diseased condition. But healthy life is different from diseased life. So some philosophers, they are trying to negate this diseased condition only, without any realization of healthy life. So I think Buddha philosophy is called nirvāṇa, negation of this diseased condition of life, pains and pleasure. Am I right or wrong?</p> |
| | <p>Professor Durckheim: You are certainly right.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="RoomConversationwithProfessorDurckheimGermanSpiritualWriterJune191974Germany_22" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="123" link="Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany" link_text="Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany|Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: The animals, they are not coming to eat your foodstuff, your fruits. They are, rather, producing milk not for drinking themselves. They are giving you, and you have no obligation? The milk produced by the cows, it is taken by the human being. They do not drink it. So they are giving milk. And after death, you are taking their skin. So every way they are serving. The stool, cowdung, we have stacked here. I have seen. There also fertilizer. In so many ways they are giving you service, and you are killing the poor animal. What is the human civilization? Therefore Lord Buddha wanted to stop animal killing first. When there was too much animal killing, the incarnation of Lord Buddha was there to stop animal killing. In Buddhism there is no animal killing. Although they are now killing animals, but originally Buddha religion means non-violence. Also Lord Christ also said, "Thou shalt not kill." And Kṛṣṇa says, ahiṁsā. So in no religion unnecessary killing of animals is allowed. Even in Mohammedans, they are also... Kurvāni. Kurvāni means they can kill animals once in a year in the Mosque. So everywhere animal killing is restricted.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="RoomConversationwithProfessorDurckheimGermanSpiritualWriterJune191974Germany_23" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="123" link="Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany" link_text="Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany|Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So that we say that God has no particular name. But according to His action His name is there. Just like Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa is not the name. Kṛṣṇa means all-attractiveness.</p> |
| | <p>Professor Durckheim: Just as Buddha is not a name.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Hm. Because He's man of knowledge, therefore He's called Buddha.</p> |
| | <p>Dr. P. J. Saher: The one who has reached...</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Buddha. Buddha means one who has perfect knowledge.</p> |
| | <p>Professor Durckheim: Buddha is not a name of somebody, yes.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Just like you say, "Hallowed be Thy name." President. President. Now the president has a name but you do not know. But the president must have a name.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="RoomConversationJune281974Melbourne_24" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="131" link="Room Conversation -- June 28, 1974, Melbourne" link_text="Room Conversation -- June 28, 1974, Melbourne"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- June 28, 1974, Melbourne|Room Conversation -- June 28, 1974, Melbourne]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: My Guru Mahārāja had very great respect for Muhammad, Jesus Christ... We pray Lord Buddha. Although he preached atheistic philosophy, but we know that he's incarnation of God. Keśava dhṛta-buddha-śarīra jaya jagadīśa hare. So a Vaiṣṇava is godly. He is qualified with all good qualities. That is Vaiṣṇava. That is Vaiṣṇava. He knows the value of each and everything. Therefore he's godly. And therefore to offer respect to Vaiṣṇava is also a great qualification.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="RoomConversationwithProfessorsFebruary191975Caracas_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="8" link="Room Conversation with Professors -- February 19, 1975, Caracas" link_text="Room Conversation with Professors -- February 19, 1975, Caracas"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Professors -- February 19, 1975, Caracas|Room Conversation with Professors -- February 19, 1975, Caracas]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Professor (Hṛdayānanda): He says he thinks you are right because the example is Buddha and Christ, and so many people follow them.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: They are perfect, but the followers do not follow the instructions. That does not mean they are imperfect.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="RoomConversationwithProfessorsFebruary191975Caracas_1" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="8" link="Room Conversation with Professors -- February 19, 1975, Caracas" link_text="Room Conversation with Professors -- February 19, 1975, Caracas"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Professors -- February 19, 1975, Caracas|Room Conversation with Professors -- February 19, 1975, Caracas]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Professor (Hṛdayānanda): He said that Buddha achieved perfection outside of joining any particular religion, and that after reading so many things and hearing all different philosophies that it was actually the practice.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: He changed himself religion.</p> |
| | <p>Professor (Hṛdayānanda): He says that... It's some story that when Buddha was about to leave his body, he said that... Anyway, the conclusion of the story is that he also considered himself imperfect.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes, that is the greatness of Buddha. Because his followers were imperfect, he could not say more than what they could understand. Therefore he said that "I am imperfect." His mission was to stop animal killing. But people are very much accustomed to animal killing, so he did not say higher things that they could not understand. For them, if they could stop animal killing, that was perfection. For primary student, if he understands the mathematics, two plus two equal to four, that is his perfection. That does not mean there is no higher mathematics.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="RoomConversationwithIndianGuestsMarch131975Tehran_2" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="28" link="Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- March 13, 1975, Tehran" link_text="Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- March 13, 1975, Tehran"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- March 13, 1975, Tehran|Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- March 13, 1975, Tehran]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So in the dictionary it is stated, "Kṛṣṇa is a Hindu god." He is not a Hindu god; He is God. But He appeared in India. He remained in the Vedic culture. Lord Buddha was also Hindu. And he was in Vedic culture. Later on he spread his own mission. That is also Hindu culture, ahiṁsā, nonviolence. Lord Buddha... keśava dhṛta-buddha. The same Kṛṣṇa, His powerful avatāra, Lord Buddha. Keśava dhṛta-buddha-śarīra jaya jagadīśa hare. We offer our prayers to Lord Buddha. Christ was also for twelve years in India. He... Christ, the word Christ and kristo, there is similarity. He also propagated love of God. That is Kṛṣṇa.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="RoomConversationApril41975Mayapur_3" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="45" link="Room Conversation -- April 4, 1975, Mayapur" link_text="Room Conversation -- April 4, 1975, Mayapur"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- April 4, 1975, Mayapur|Room Conversation -- April 4, 1975, Mayapur]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Just like the Buddhists. They have got their all pilgrimages in India. Because Lord Buddha is Indian. He spread Buddhism all over the world. So all the Buddhist relics and pilgrimages are in India. Gaya Pradesh and other, Benares... So India government allow them free, freedom to come here as pilgrimage. So you are now Vaiṣṇava. Why they should not allow you to come to your pilgrimage in India, Caitanya Mahāprabhu's birthplace? You have adopted Lord Caitanya, Lord Kṛṣṇa's birthplace. Legally, they cannot. They should, rather, make arrangement.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="MorningWalkMay81975Perth_4" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="61" link="Morning Walk -- May 8, 1975, Perth" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 8, 1975, Perth"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 8, 1975, Perth|Morning Walk -- May 8, 1975, Perth]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Paramahaṁsa: But we have seen Lord Buddha, he conquered all of India with ahiṁsā, nonviolence, Lord Buddha.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Lord Buddha was not a politician.</p> |
| | <p>Paramahaṁsa: But he conquered India. He became the most...</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: That is another thing. He conquered India. If he con-quered India, why he is driven out of India? Nobody is Buddhist now in India. And in Japan, nearly also halfway, so that is (indistinct). Buddha's nonviolence and Gandhi's nonviolence is different.</p> |
| | <p>Paramahaṁsa: Yes.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Gandhi's nonviolence all rascaldom because he was dealing in politics. Buddha never entered in politics. So how you can compare with Buddha? His activities are different. His activity of false vibration(?), to stop all kinds of miseries of material world. That was his philosophy. He never dealt in politics. Although he was a king's son, he never dealt in politics. You cannot... This is foolishness. We do not know. We do not study what is Buddha's position, what is Gandhi's position.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="DiscussionMay151975Perth_5" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="73" link="Discussion -- May 15, 1975, Perth" link_text="Discussion -- May 15, 1975, Perth"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Discussion -- May 15, 1975, Perth|Discussion -- May 15, 1975, Perth]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Why there are varieties of life? This is different type of punishment for different kinds of sinful activities. And he doesn't care for sinful activities. He got the human form of body, he doesn't care. Saintly persons, they are coming as Caitanya Mahāprabhu or Buddha or Christ. They are warning, "You do not do this." No, they will do it. So who is responsible for his sufferings? He is responsible. And so long he has got this short duration of life, fifty or sixty years or utmost hundred years, he is thinking, "I am free. Whatever I want, I can do," and making life risky. Ahaṅkāra-vimūḍhātmā. He is not independent. He knows that. Still, he will declare independence and suffer. This is the position.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="MorningWalkMay171975Perth_6" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="78" link="Morning Walk -- May 17, 1975, Perth" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 17, 1975, Perth"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 17, 1975, Perth|Morning Walk -- May 17, 1975, Perth]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: And that Burmese said, "We don't believe in God." And you don't believe in God. You don't... Why you believe Lord Buddha? He is God.</p> |
| | <p>Amogha: Then he said, "But there is no God mentioned in Buddhism. There is nirvāṇa."</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: That's all right, but you worship Buddha. Why?</p> |
| | <p>Amogha: Because he spoke about nirvāṇa. In Burma many people are Buddhist. They say they are Buddhist.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Till now, 2,600 years past from the Buddhist community, from other groups and Arabia, very big religionist or philosophers has come. They are all in darkness. It was for the time being. The Buddhist religion was for the time. </p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="MorningWalkMay181975Perth_7" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="79" link="Morning Walk -- May 18, 1975, Perth" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 18, 1975, Perth"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 18, 1975, Perth|Morning Walk -- May 18, 1975, Perth]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Amogha: When Buddha came, did most people follow Him?</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p> |
| | <p>Amogha: And they stopped their (indistinct).</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. In their religion animal-killing is strictly forbidden.</p> |
| | <p>Amogha: Did Śaṅkara, did he physically force the Buddhists out of India, by force?</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: No.</p> |
| | <p>Amogha: Or just teaching.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: By argument, by teaching.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="RoomConversationwithJournalistMay191975Melbourne_8" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="82" link="Room Conversation with Journalist -- May 19, 1975, Melbourne" link_text="Room Conversation with Journalist -- May 19, 1975, Melbourne"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Journalist -- May 19, 1975, Melbourne|Room Conversation with Journalist -- May 19, 1975, Melbourne]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Now, in this life one has to enquire about himself that what is the difference between me and the dog? Why I am claiming a better position than the dog? What is the difference? The difference is that a human being, if he endeavors, he can understand his real constitutional position and he can understand God also. God. Therefore in the human society, civilized human society, there is some sort of religious system. It does not matter whether it is Hindu religion, Muslim religion, Christian religion, or Buddha religion. There is some religion in the civilized human society.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="RoomConversationwithJournalistMay191975Melbourne_9" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="82" link="Room Conversation with Journalist -- May 19, 1975, Melbourne" link_text="Room Conversation with Journalist -- May 19, 1975, Melbourne"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Journalist -- May 19, 1975, Melbourne|Room Conversation with Journalist -- May 19, 1975, Melbourne]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Journalist: Is Kṛṣṇa consciousness connected with any other religion? Does it derive from Hinduism or Buddhism?</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes, you can call it Hinduism, but actually it does not belong to any "ism." It is a science of understanding God. But it appears like Hindu religion. In that sense Buddha religion is also Hindu religion, because Lord Buddha was a Hindu and he started Buddha religion.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="MorningWalkJune101975Honolulu_10" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="100" link="Morning Walk -- June 10, 1975, Honolulu" link_text="Morning Walk -- June 10, 1975, Honolulu"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 10, 1975, Honolulu|Morning Walk -- June 10, 1975, Honolulu]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: ...stated that he came to cheat the atheists. They did not believe in God, but God came as Buddha.</p> |
| | <p>Siddha-svarūpa: Yes, yes.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: And he said, "Yes, you are right. There is no God."</p> |
| | <p>Siddha-svarūpa: "Worship me." (laughs) Yes, I'm pretty sure I mentioned that. (break)</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: They were satisfied, "Yes, we shall worship you." (break)</p> |
| | <p>Siddha-svarūpa: The so-called more advanced ones, the teachers, the leaders, the monks, they have a more difficult time because they are, have actually further studied the impersonalist philosophies, so they are more contaminated, whereas the congregation in general, they just, they don't take very seriously the philosophy. They don't get too deeply into it, I don't think. They just like to go to the temple and offer some incense to Lord Buddha and...</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="CarConversationfromAirportJuly31975Chicago_11" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="121" link="Car Conversation from Airport -- July 3, 1975, Chicago" link_text="Car Conversation from Airport -- July 3, 1975, Chicago"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Car Conversation from Airport -- July 3, 1975, Chicago|Car Conversation from Airport -- July 3, 1975, Chicago]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Harikeśa: Some of the scholars say that because Lord Buddha is predicted in the Bhāgavatam, that it proves that the Bhāgavatam was written after Lord Buddha appeared.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Buddha said like that?</p> |
| | <p>Harikeśa: The scholars, they say...</p> |
| | <p>Brahmānanda: They say it's not possible to predict a person's appearance.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Huh?</p> |
| | <p>Brahmānanda: They say because it's not possible by ordinary means to predict a person's birth, because Lord Buddha is mentioned in Śrīmad-Bhāgava...</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Still there is a science, Bhṛgu-saṁhitā, which will give you prediction of your next birth. Still there is science, Bhṛgu-saṁhitā. He'll give you description of three lives: your past life, present life, and future life. Bhṛgu-saṁhitā. (break) ...Bhāgavata it is said bhaviṣyati. Kikaṭeṣu bhaviṣyati. Bhaviṣyati means "He will appear." Why it is not possible? You haven't got that knowledge, that is another thing. But it is possible.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="RoomConversationwithwriterSandyNixonJuly131975Philadelphia_12" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="141" link="Room Conversation with writer, Sandy Nixon -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia" link_text="Room Conversation with writer, Sandy Nixon -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with writer, Sandy Nixon -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia|Room Conversation with writer, Sandy Nixon -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: There are, in every religion, there are principles. If you don't follow them, then how you become religious? Therefore this is my question. So nobody is following religious principles at the present moment. Therefore practically there is no religion. Everything is finished. We are trying to revive. If you follow religious principle, then it doesn't matter whether you are Christian or Mohammedan or Hindu or Buddha. Then you are religious. But if you do not follow any religious principle, then how you become religious?</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="MorningWalkJuly211975SanFrancisco_13" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="151" link="Morning Walk -- July 21, 1975, San Francisco" link_text="Morning Walk -- July 21, 1975, San Francisco"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- July 21, 1975, San Francisco|Morning Walk -- July 21, 1975, San Francisco]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Nalinī-kaṇṭha: They say you cannot study Veda because Christ said that there is no other way than himself.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Because they are fourth-class, unless he says like that, how they will stick? They were not intelligent men. Just like Lord Buddha also said, "There is no God." "There is no God," but he is God himself.</p> |
| | <p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That means the followers of Lord Buddha are less intelligent than the followers of...</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: "Less" not. They are atheist class. So they will not understand what is God. So he said, "There is no God. You just hear me and become nonviolent." So his idea was, "Let this rascal first of all become nonviolent. Then they will be pure, and then they will understand."</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="RoomConversationsJuly261975LagunaBeach_14" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="156" link="Room Conversations -- July 26, 1975, Laguna Beach" link_text="Room Conversations -- July 26, 1975, Laguna Beach"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversations -- July 26, 1975, Laguna Beach|Room Conversations -- July 26, 1975, Laguna Beach]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Guest: The reason why I asked was because other spiritual masters such as Jesus and the Buddha have required first that people give all of their possession to the poor rather than give them to a community fund such as the Self-Realization Fellowship, the Society for Kṛṣṇa Consciousness, or any other...</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes, that is right, because after all... Why to the poor? We say... I do not know whether Jesus Christ, Lord Buddha, said, but generally people are inclined to give to the poor. That, suppose you have got some money. I go: "Sir, give us some contribution for spending for Kṛṣṇa consciousness." He will not like very much. And if I go, ask some money, that "I am going to open some hospital for the poor suffering humanity," he will give immediately. Is it not the general tendency? If I say a moneyed man, "Please give me some money. I will spend it for Kṛṣṇa," he will not give. (chuckles) But if I approach him that "I am going to open a charitable institution for the poor," he will give me. So these Jesus Christ and Lord Buddha has said like that just to try to this, make this man dispossess. But he will not be inclined to pay for Kṛṣṇa; he will be inclined for the poor. The real purpose is to make him dispossess. Unless he is penniless, he will not take to God. So the real purpose is to make him dispossess. But he will not be inclined to pay his money for God. So let him pay to the poor, that's all. Otherwise, if anyone has got money, he should return it to God because it is God's money. Īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvaṁ yat kiñcit jagatyāṁ jagat ([[Vanisource:ISO 1|ISO 1]]).</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="RoomConversationAugust211975Bombay_15" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="174" link="Room Conversation -- August 21, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- August 21, 1975, Bombay"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 21, 1975, Bombay|Room Conversation -- August 21, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 4.2 (1972)|BG 4.2]]). I wanted a rājarṣi to take up this movement seriously, but I could not get till now. If she becomes, it will be benefit for me, for the world, for her, everyone. Because I have no power, I have no money, but if one rājarṣi who has got strength, money, intelligence, if she takes, then it will be very quickly successful. Just like Caitanya Mahāprabhu, His movement became very successful when Mahārāja Pratāparudra of Orissa took it. Gautama Buddha's movement was successful when Aśoka, Mahārāja Aśoka took it. It requires. And Kṛṣṇa says, rājarṣayo viduḥ.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="MorningWalkSeptember131975Vrndavana_16" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="186" link="Morning Walk -- September 13, 1975, Vrndavana" link_text="Morning Walk -- September 13, 1975, Vrndavana"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- September 13, 1975, Vrndavana|Morning Walk -- September 13, 1975, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Harikeśa: This Māyāvādī philosophy, is this...?</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: They are atheist. They are first-class atheist, more than the Buddhist. Veda na maniya bauddha haila nāstika. The Buddhists, they did not accept Vedic authorities; therefore they are considered as nāstika. But vedāśraya nāstikya vada. These rascals, they accept Vedas and preaches atheism. So they are more dangerous than the Buddhists. This is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's version. (aside) Hare Kṛṣṇa. Bauddha ke adhika: "They are more dangerous than the Buddhists." The Buddhists, although they are supposed to be atheists, they worship the Deity Lord Buddha. But they say it is māyā. And more advanced than these atheists.</p> |
| | <p>Brahmānanda: The Māyāvādīs.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: More... Not advanced. More degraded. These atheists, they have been taught to worship the form of Lord Buddha, and Buddha is incarnation of Kṛṣṇa, so one day they will be delivered. But these rascals will never be delivered.</p> |
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| | <div id="MorningWalkOctober41975Mauritius_17" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="199" link="Morning Walk -- October 4, 1975, Mauritius" link_text="Morning Walk -- October 4, 1975, Mauritius"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- October 4, 1975, Mauritius|Morning Walk -- October 4, 1975, Mauritius]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: (break) ...last night that they're starting a foundation, Mahatma Gandhi Foundation, here, to teach Indian culture, and he said, "Not just the Bhagavad-gītā, but Indian culture." You mentioned that we should take Indian culture directly from Bhagavad-gītā, not from here, not little from here, and little from there. (break) You give the example, Prabhupāda, that to fight with a declared enemy is very easy, but to fight with someone who is playing as a friend, although he is your enemy, is more difficult.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: He is more dangerous than Buddha.</p> |
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| | <div id="MorningWalkNovember141975Bombay_18" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="240" link="Morning Walk -- November 14, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- November 14, 1975, Bombay"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 14, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- November 14, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: Extremely difficult, that even man like Gautama Buddha had several times come back to see his child and son when he left his house, more than half a dozen times, come and go, come and go. Finally he closed his eyes and ran away. A man of that type. And for ordinary human beings it is very difficult.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: No, it is not difficult. Therefore vānaprastha is recommended, that "Go out of home, remain in the tīrtha-sthana and again come. See your children. Again go. Then take sannyāsa.</p> |
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| | <div id="MorningWalkNovember171975Bombay_19" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="243" link="Morning Walk -- November 17, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- November 17, 1975, Bombay"> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 17, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- November 17, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: Do you think, in your opinion, māyāvāda was a necessity to undo all the bad effect of the degenerated Buddhism? This followed some three, four or seven hundred years of after Gautama Buddha.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: No, it... It might be necessity for the time being. Buddhism also was a necessity for the time being. They are not for all. Emergency. Just like it is going on, "emergency." It is not necessity, but sometimes we have to take emergency. Otherwise how Vaiṣṇavas are worshiping Lord Buddha? Eh? Nindasi yajña-vidher ahaha śruti-jatam: "You are always deriding the Vedic principles," śruti-jatam. Sadaya-hṛdaya-darśita-paśu-ghāṭam. This is emergency, that "You have become so much compassionate upon the poor animals because they are unnecessarily being killed." Keśava dhṛta-buddha-śarīra, jaya jagadīśa. He is glorifying, keśava dhṛta-buddha-śarīra, but showing that "You are deriding Vedic principles." So how is that, if one derides Vedic principle, at the same time, jaya jagadīśa hare?</p> |
| | <p>Dr. Patel: Because the Vedic principles were not properly understood by those people at that time.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: No, no, no. He directly said, "I don't care for the Vedas." Lord Buddha says. So who will worship a person who directly says, "I don't care for your Vedas"? Shall you go to worship a Buddhist or Mohammedan? No. This is emergency. Sadaya-hṛdaya-darśita paśu-ghāṭam. He cannot deride the Vedic principle, but it was necessary at the time. Otherwise these rascals will not stop.</p> |
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