Śrīdhara Mahārāja: So I do not have here one copy, regularly.
Prabhupāda: Oh, why, why not Back to Godhead?
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Last time I requested, but they have forgotten.
Prabhupāda: It is...
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: (Bengali) Once letter to me that in Benares Candraśekhara and Navadvīpa Candraśekhara, uncle. The Benares Candraśekhara, the lekha śūdra, and the Mahāprabhu's maternal uncle Candraśekhara Ācārya...
Prabhupāda: Candraśekhara, yes.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Eh? ...Has been misplaced.
Prabhupāda: Oh, Candraśekhara Ācārya and śūdra...
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: And Candraśekhara...
Prabhupāda: Where?
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Has been told to be this Candraśekhara, a servant Candraśekhara.
Prabhupāda: Benares Candraśekhara was a vaidya.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Vaidya.
Prabhupāda: And he is...
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: This is... Uncle,
Prabhupāda: Uncle, uncle. In Back to Godhead, you have seen it. Maybe.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: So much clear conception in such a small period of time, that they have acquired. This is a marvelous thing. The Dāmodara also, ISKCON has said in such a way, this Dāmodara Svarūpa and the Paṇḍita Dāmodara. Generally, these are for public, but minute reader only can differentiate.
Prabhupāda: Dāmodara. Svarūpa Dāmodara and Dāmodara Paṇḍita.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Dāmodara Paṇḍita. Two different, but one is Lalitā. Another is a mañjarī of Candrāvalī, Paṇḍita Dāmodara.
Prabhupāda: Opposite party.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Opposite party. And this is the leader of this party, and he...
Prabhupāda: How they came together? Caitanyākhyāṁ prakaṭam adhunā.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Bon Mahārāja once misplaced that very...
Prabhupāda: In which book?
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: In this...
Prabhupāda: Eh? In which book. Or he spoke in a speech or what?
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: In speech must be, but...
Prabhupāda: But he hasn't got many books.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: No. One "Paramo Dharma" in Bengali, and "First year in England," "Second year in England," in this way...
Prabhupāda: That is not a...
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: One (indistinct) in German language.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: What is there, I do not know. "First Year in England." "My First Year in England." "My Second Year in England." And it was very disgusted to Prabhupāda, this...
Prabhupāda: Prabhupāda, yes.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: And his servant.
Prabhupāda: And therefore he was called back.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Nothing, "I met that such and such person on such and such date. I met on that... I, that is one lecture there." Everything: "I, I, I..."
Prabhupāda: And there was a picture: "Swamiji is playing on harmonium."
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: And Tīrtha Mahārāja is trying a, feed (be?) a pigeon or something like that, and staring... These were the pictures while London preaching. And the money...
Prabhupāda: So our present Tīrtha Mahārāja, Bhakti-Vilāsa-Tīrtha Mahārāja, he's representing Prabhupāda. At least, he tries to pose himself. So Bon Mahārāja's activities, in comparison to that, my activities certainly better. And Bon Mahārāja was given so much reception. But he did not give me any reception. How he can claim to be Prabhupāda's representative?
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Bon Mahārāja was given reception because Prabhupāda...
Prabhupāda: No, Prabhupāda appreciated anyway.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Anyway.
Prabhupāda: But here there is no appreciation.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: He's representing, he's representing the mission, he thinks. He thinks so, but he's so poor in his preaching capacity that he cannot accommodate any other in his camp than him and Vinohe(?). I heard a story of Maharashtra. In old days, there was a good king who encouraged the paṇḍitas very much. And he had got in his assembly a scholar, one Balarāma. He always looked after this, that. No paṇḍita can have any entrance to that Mahārāja. And he professed himself to be, he is the biggest paṇḍita in the land. So once Kālidāsa... At the time of Kālidāsa. Kālidāsa, when he heard, then he found a plan. And went to that paṇḍita, that "I a poor brāhmaṇa. I want some, some sort of money from the king. You are all in..."
Prabhupāda: Recommend.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: "Please recommend me." "Oh, yes. And then what sort of scholarship you have got? Do you..., can you compose any poem?" "Yes. I can." "Then do it." Then: uttiṣṭhottiṣṭha bhū-rājan mukhaṁ prakṣālaya atha, roditi na ghare kukurana vaidyuhi na vaidyo hi.(?) This stanza. What is the meaning? (laughs) The uttiṣṭhottiṣṭha rājan. "Oh King,..."
Prabhupāda: "Get up."
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: "Wake up, wake up. Get up." bhū-rājan mukhaṁ prakṣālaya atha. "And..."
Prabhupāda: Wash up.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: "...cleanse your mouth. Wash your mouth." And ta what is this ta? "Well, keep it in your hand." Roditi na ghare kukura... "The ta must come here." Roditi na ghare kukura ta mughi. "That ta is placed there in advance, that ta must come here." Roditi na ghare kukura ta. "But for the caṇḍa, and it has been removed there. And that one word, the place was empty. So this ta has been positioned, has been placed there." Roditi na ghare kukura. "And what is this Ca vai tu ki, ca vai tu ki? No." "This is ca-vai-tu-ki, all these letters only to pada, for pada pūraṇa. So this fourth pada, I could not fill up. So these four things have been placed here." ca vai tu ki, "Oh, that's very good I'll put it to the king."
Prabhupāda: He saw it is very intelligent.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: "How, how a scholar I am I! I wrote this is the specimen of other scholars." (Bengali-recites some verses) And this sort of poems was produced by him in the court. The king was charmed. This man was perplexed. So Tīrtha Mahārāja (?) is like Balarāma. And he, and he...
Prabhupāda: Nobody should be allowed. (laughter)
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: And when he find man comes around him, then he will be nowhere to the... He's, he's, he's knows one thing, that Haritaki. You know that story of Haritaki.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (Laughs)
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: He knows this canar-dharma. (?)
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Canar-dharma is everything to him, just as Haritaki to that fabulous Kavirāja. (Bengali)
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: And he has got one thing, I...
Prabhupāda: Yes. Tusarkanti (?) very much appreciates.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Whom?
Prabhupāda: No, this canar-dharma. Because that Gaura Mahārāja, you know.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Yes, I know.
Prabhupāda: He told me that he was given...
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: He wanted election of Vāsudeva Prabhu, Gaura Mahārāja and that Bhagavānānanda, but Paraśurāma. But anyhow, he escaped and he came to Tīrtha Mahārāja, his former relative, old Tīrtha Mahārāja, former relative. Then Tīrtha Mahārāja told him that "What about my guru?" "Well, if your guru on one side, another bullock in another side. And if you can plow and produce some crops, and that can be offered to Mahāprabhu, then your guru may have a path of relish." (laughs) See what Tīrtha Mahārāja says, "This is blasphemy." "No, it is true, but this is very cruel. But this is truth."
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: If he's presently the pakka Māyāvādī, if he's used passively by a great man then only in that way he can come this side. Not in front walking. Not by front walking. Only by back drawing, he can be taken to this side only. It is quite true. That... So Cinmayānanda. Now Gaura Mahārāja, he knows me better, and he, he's a paid Goswami of those Patrikā persons.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: And they are exploiting him. He's exploiting them.
Prabhupāda: This time, in their meeting, they made me chief guest. But I did not attend.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: That's a lower position.
Prabhupāda: In, in a big meeting, they made me chief guest.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: He wants to show, so that, "I have got..."
Prabhupāda: That, that...
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: ... such big man.
Prabhupāda: Oṁkāranātha...
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Was president, was made president.
Prabhupāda: And that uh...
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: And yourself, Mādhava Mahārāja and Tīrtha Mahārāja invited to be vice-President. I heard.
Prabhupāda: Oh. Mādhava Mahārāja went there.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Went there.
Prabhupāda: Yes. He lectured. And I did not go.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: And Tīrtha Mahārāja did not go.
Prabhupāda: I do not know. Tīrtha Mahārāja did not go?
Bhavānanda: They were made Vice-presidents, but Śrīla Prabhupāda was asked to be chief speaker.