Prabhupāda: The Sāma-vedas mean the realization of God by singing, by music. That is Sāma-veda.
Dr. Patel: By music. I am the soul of the music.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore hari-kīrtana. Hari-kīrtana is Sāma-veda, glorifying the supreme. That is stated in some other place. Yam brahma-varunendra-rudraḥ stunvanti divyaiḥ stavair vedaiḥ sanga-pada-kramopa...
Dr. Patel: Kramopanisadair gayanti yam samagaḥ.
Prabhupāda: Gayanti. So gayanti, chanting, is following the Sāma-veda, and Sāma-veda, Kṛṣṇa says, "I am especially Sāma-veda."
Dr. Patel: Devānām asmi vāsavaḥ, indriyāṇāṁ manaś cāsmi bhūtānām asmi cetanā. "I am the..." Cetanā means...?
Prabhupāda: Life. Knowledge, knowledge.
Dr. Patel:
- rudrāṇāṁ śaṅkaraś cāsmi
- vitteśo yakṣa-rakṣasām
- vasūnāṁ pāvakaś cāsmi
- meruḥ śikhariṇām aham
- purodhasāṁ ca mukhyaṁ māṁ
- viddhi pārtha bṛhaspatim
- senānīnām ahaṁ skandaḥ
- sarasām asmi sāgaraḥ
Prabhupāda: Skanda means Karttikeya.
Dr. Patel: Yes. Karttikeya. Maharṣīṇāṁ bhṛgur ahaṁ girām asmy ekam akṣaram. "I am oṁ."
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: Yajñānāṁ japa-yajño 'smi. (laughs)
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yajñaiḥ saṅkīrtanaiḥ prayair yajanti hi sumedhasaḥ (SB 11.5.32). This is there. Japa-yoga, Hare Kṛṣṇa, this is the first-class...
Dr. Patel:
- yajñānāṁ japa-yajño 'smi
- sthāvarāṇāṁ himālayaḥ
- aśvatthaḥ sarva-vṛkṣāṇāṁ
- devarṣīṇāṁ ca nāradaḥ
- gandharvāṇāṁ citrarathaḥ
- siddhānāṁ kapilo muniḥ
Prabhupāda: Now, the Kapila Muni. Who is that Kapila Muni?
Dr. Patel: That Devahūti's son.
Prabhupāda: Son, yes.
Dr. Patel:
- uccaiḥśravasam aśvānāṁ
- viddhi mām amṛtodbhavam
- airāvataṁ gajendrāṇāṁ
- narāṇāṁ ca narādhipam
- Naradhipam means He represents the God.
Prabhupāda: King, king, king. Yes.
Dr. Patel: King. But not these kings, (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: But they are not kings. They are mlecchas. They are not kings. Asaṁskṛtāḥ kriyā-hīnā mlecchā rājendra-rūpinaḥ. They have assumed the post of king, but otherwise they are mlecchas, asaṁskṛtāḥ. There is no saṁskāra, and kriyā-hīnā, they do not perform the Vedic rituals. So they are all rascals. So how we can be happy?