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<div class="heading">So at the present moment this movement, Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, is meant for creating nice brāhmaṇas with qualification. Satyaṁ śamo damas titikṣā ārjavaṁ jñānaṁ vijñānam āstikyaṁ brahma-karma svabhāva-jam (BG 18.42). So Kṛṣṇa says that "Regular principle, sex life, is all right. That is I am." That is Kṛṣṇa. If we can beget children to develop them with Kṛṣṇa consciousness and thus become liberated from the clutches of repeated birth and death, that is the duty of the father and mother rightly followed.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971|Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">
Prabhupāda: So here Kṛṣṇa specifically mentions ''dharma-aviruddha-kāma'', sex impulse not against the law of God. What is that sex impulse against the law of God? The law of God is that sex life is required for progeny, for begetting children, not for sense enjoyment. Anyone who enjoys sex life for enjoyment, he is a ''śūdra'' or less than ''śūdra''. That is the description in Vedic literature.
 
When Nārada Muni instructed Yudhiṣṭhira Mahārāja about householder's life, the householder's life, when they beget child, there is a ceremony which is called ''garbhādhāna-saṁskāra''. Not that, "I am today very sexually agitated. I must have sex." No. Just like that Kardama Muni. Kardama Muni's wife, Devahūti . . . not Devahūti. Aditi or Diti? Hiraṇyakaśipu's mother?
 
Indian man: Kaśyapa Muni.
 
Prabhupāda: Kaśyapa Muni and Diti. Diti. The wife was very sexually agitated, and she requested the husband to have sexual intercourse. The husband said: "No. This is not the proper time." I am describing the story shortly. But the wife was too much agitated. So she obliged the husband to have sex life with her, and after sex life the Kaśyapa Muni said that "Your sons will be demons."
 
Indian man: Kaśyapa.
 
Prabhupāda: Kaśyapa, yes. So as a result of untimely sex life, two demons were born.
 
So there is regulation of sex life. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, ''dharma-aviruddha'': sex life is sanctioned under certain conditions. That is humanity. Not like . . . even the cats' and dogs' life there is some limitation. They have got a period of sex life. Similarly, for ''gṛhastha'', there is a period for sex life. After menstrual period, five days after menstrual period, one may have sex life for begetting children. And if the woman or wife is pregnant, then there is no more sex life till the child is born and six months old. These are the regulations.
 
And besides that, when there is sex life, there is a ceremony. It is not a secret thing. They could call, especially for the ''brāhmiṇs'', they would call friends. Just like Hindu marriage takes place not by agreement but amongst the . . . in the presence of ''agni'' and friends and relatives and ''brāhmiṇs''. That is sufficient witness. Similarly, when a ''brāhmiṇ'' goes to have sex intercourse for begetting child, there is a big ceremony. All the relatives, all the learned ''brāhmiṇs'' are present, and with their permission he goes for sex life. Sanctity.
 
Therefore the child is born very nice. Because in such family, ordinary living entity cannot come. ''Śucīnāṁ śrīmatāṁ gehe yoga-bhraṣṭo sanjāyate'' ([[Vanisource:BG 6.41 (1972)|BG 6.41]]). In the family of a pure ''brāhmiṇ'', ''śucīnām'', or in the family of rich man, ''yoga-bhraṣṭo sanjāyate'', the persons who have not executed the ''yoga'' system completely or somehow or other fallen down, they are given the chance of taking birth in nice ''brāhmiṇ'' family or rich man's family. So they also take care how to beget children. That is ''garbhādhāna-saṁskāra''. This is called ''dharma-aviruddha-kāma''. This ''kāma'' is sanctioned. Otherwise you'll beget demons, just like Kaśyapa Muni, untimely sex.
 
So therefore Kṛṣṇa says: "When there is sexual intercourse according to the scriptural injunction, that is I am." Kṛṣṇa says: "I am that sexual intercourse." In such kind of sexual intercourse there is no sin. That is another ''yajña''. Just like we eat ''kṛṣṇa-prasādam'' by offering ''yajña''. ''Yajña-śiṣṭāśinaḥ santo mucyante sarva-kilbiṣaiḥ'' ([[Vanisource:BG 3.13 (1972)|BG 3.13]]). If we take ''kṛṣṇa-prasādam'', then we become freed from all kinds of sinful reaction.
 
Because the material world is so made that willingly or unwillingly . . . if you are not willing, unwillingly you have to commit so many sinful actions. Just like to kill an animal is sinful action, but you don't want to kill. Still, when you are passing on the street, you are killing so many ants. While drinking water, besides the . . . all around the water jug there are so many animals. When you crush, I mean to say, spices, we kill so many animals.
 
So we are responsible for that. Because in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' you know, ''bhuñjate te tv aghaṁ pāpā ye pacanty ātma-kāraṇāt'' ([[Vanisource:BG 3.13 (1972)|BG 3.13]]). If you simply cook for your sense gratification, then you have to take responsibility of all the killing business. But if you offer to Kṛṣṇa and take the ''prasādam'', you become free from the contamination. Similarly, we require to eat, we require to sleep, we require to mate and we require to defend. If these things are done on account of Kṛṣṇa or as enjoined in the ''śāstra'' . . .
 
''Śāstra'' means, as I have already told you, the orders of Kṛṣṇa or orders of God. ''Sādhu-śāstra-guru''. They are the same thing. There is no difference. A ''sādhu'' follows the orders of the scriptures. A ''guru'' follows the order of the scriptures. And ''śāstra'' is description of the Supreme Lord. Just like we are reading ''Bhagavad-gītā''. These are the injunction of Kṛṣṇa. Therefore it is ''śāstra''. Or anyone who writes in terms of the ''śāstra'', that is right direction. If we speak ''Bhagavad-gītā'' as Kṛṣṇa desires, then it is right. And if we describe ''Bhagavad-gītā'' to fulfil our ulterior motives for some purpose, then it is useless.
 
So similarly, Kṛṣṇa said, ''dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha''. Those who are not following the principles how to beget child, or not observing the ''garbhādhāna-saṁskāra'', according to ''śāstra'', immediately the family becomes converted into ''śūdra''. No more ''brāhmiṇ'', no more ''kṣatriya'', if he does not follow. This is very easy to understand. If you do something illegally, against the law, immediately you become a criminal. Similarly, ''dharmāviruddha''. The ''garbhādhāna-saṁskāra'' has to be observed. Otherwise we become ''śūdra'', no more ''brāhmiṇ'', no more ''kṣatriya''.
 
So it is very difficult to say at the present moment whether ''garbhādhāna-saṁskāra'' is observed. At least, in ''garbhādhāna-saṁskāra'' we understand that "This child is born of a real ''brāhmiṇ''." But without ''garbhādhāna-saṁskāra'', who knows how the child is born? Nobody knows except the mother. Therefore the ''śāstra'' says, "In this age, Kali-yuga, because this ''garbhādhāna-saṁskāra'' is not observed regularly," ''kalau śūdrāḥ sambhavāḥ'', "everyone in the Kali-yuga is a ''śūdra'', because the ''garbhādhāna-saṁskāra'' is not observed."
 
Of course, those who are observing . . . but it is very hard to say who is observing. But if it is not observed, then any child born, either in the ''brāhmiṇ'' family or ''kṣatriya'' family or ''vaiśya'' family, because the ''garbhādhāna-saṁskāra'' is not observed, it is to be understood that that child is ''śūdra''.
 
Even if the ''garbhādhāna-saṁskāra'' is observed, still, by birth, it is accepted that every child is a ''śūdra''. ''Janmanā jāyate śūdraḥ saṁskārād bhaved dvijaḥ''. And if the regulative purificatory processes are adopted, then he becomes ''dvija''. ''Dvija'' means twice-born. First-born by the father and mother, and his second birth is by the spiritual master and Vedic knowledge. ''Veda-mātā''. Vedic knowledge and the spiritual master gives another birth. ''Upanayana-saṁskāra''.
 
''Upanayana''. ''Upanayana'', means coming nearer to the understanding of Vedic knowledge, ''upanayana'', or coming nearer to the spiritual master. Then he begins studying of ''Vedas''. ''Veda-pāṭhād bhaved vipraḥ''. When he has studied nicely ''Vedas'', then he becomes a ''vipra''. And when he understands the Supreme Lord or the Para-brahman, then he is ''brāhmiṇ''. This is the process.
 
So at the present moment this movement, Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, is meant for creating nice ''brāhmiṇs'' with qualification. ''Satyaṁ śamo damas titikṣā ārjavaṁ jñānaṁ vijñānam āstikyaṁ brahma-karma svabhāva-jam'' ([[Vanisource:BG 18.42 (1972)|BG 18.42]]). So Kṛṣṇa says that "Regular principle sex life is all right. That is I am." That is Kṛṣṇa. If we can beget children to develop them with Kṛṣṇa consciousness and thus become liberated from the clutches of repeated birth and death, that is the duty of the father and mother rightly followed. Otherwise we become entangled.
 
:''ye caiva sāttvikā bhāvā''
:''rājasās tāmasāś ca ye''
:''matta eveti tān viddhi''
:''na tv ahaṁ teṣu te mayi''
:([[Vanisource:BG 7.12 (1972)|BG 7.12]])
 
Because everything emanates from Kṛṣṇa, or Para-brahman, the Absolute Truth . . . even ''tamo-guṇa'', ''rajo-guṇa'', all these ''guṇas'', they are also emanation from Kṛṣṇa. ''Ye caiva sāttvikā bhāvāḥ''.