Allen Ginsberg: It becomes more and more widespread and is more and more acceptable to people...
Prabhupāda: A Bengali woman is here, that Lekha? She can come and you can give.
Devotee: Prabhupāda, may I ask you one question? I know that (indistinct) here is an astrologer. I can do astrological charts. Do you consider that māyā? (break)
Allen Ginsberg: I don't know how... It's difficult for me to conceive everybody in America...
Prabhupāda: Nothing is accepted by everybody.
Allen Ginsberg: Or even a vast, vast, vast number of people living a Hindu-language-based, Hindu-food-based, monastic life in America. Yes. And many of us, like, do you remember Gary Snyder, who is the Buddhist boy, I think we met in New York?
Kīrtanānanda: San Francisco.
Allen Ginsberg: In San Francisco, was it? Yes. ...have all been thinking what form of religious practice, what form of simple meditation exercises could be set forth in America that could be adopted by a great, great, great, great many people on a large scale. We haven't solved the problem. One thing I've noticed is that the Kṛṣṇa temples have spread and are firmly rooted and solidly based. There are a number of them now. So that really is a very solid root. So I think that will continue.
Prabhupāda: Yes.