Prabhupāda: Ah, that is their cheating. Find out now, and I accept that they're scientists. Yes. Cash money, sir. Then I shall know that you are rich man. You want to cheat me with the paper?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: That's why they'll say that "We are doing research."
Prabhupāda: That means that... Then don't talk that you are scientists. You are student. You are trying to learn. You're student. You cannot say that you are scientists.
Hṛdayānanda: So regardless of our position, they are not qualified.
Prabhupāda: Ah?
Hṛdayānanda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Their system is to remain a student and pose as teacher, their system. They're trying to learn it, and still they're posing as teacher. Teacher means one who knows. He does not know; still he poses in the post of a teacher.
Hṛdayānanda: So the system cannot be good because it does not purify their character. They still cheat.
Prabhupāda: No, they're cheating simply. Little knowledge, cheating. Little knowledge.
Yaśomatīnandana: They're simply like neti neti. "Not this, not this."
Prabhupāda: "Not this." Yes. By negation. Definition by negation. Not positive definition. They say "it is not this." But what it is they cannot say.