Hari-śauri: They have to go to so much trouble as well just to achieve that little flickering...
Prabhupāda: Very, very great trouble. You have not seen the yogis? Of course, there are some.... But still, they have to undergo very severe processes for achieving this yogic power. And a devotee, they kick it, that "What is this nonsense?" That is devotee. "What is this nonsense? What shall I do by producing gold?" And I never tried for making gold, but is there any scarcity of gold? I never tried for that, how to make gold. That Sai Baba is showing some magic power. What of the Maharsi? Maha.... He was also after some yogic power.
Harikeśa: I don't know.
Prabhupāda: You were with him. You do not know? "The transcendental meditation—you will get this, you will get that." He is advertising in that...
Hari-śauri: All material opulence.
Harikeśa: Ultimately you will become God.
Prabhupāda: Yes. This is the attempt.