Dr. Patel: So, sir, you are going by train to Kumbhamela.
Prabhupāda: I like train.
Dr. Patel: I would have accompanied you if you had gone by plane. I would lose lot of time going and coming. While coming back, you will come out to ten days, five days.
Prabhupāda: No. Train, first-class is very comfortable.
Dr. Patel: But you see, after all, it takes upon the health, twenty-four hours.
Prabhupāda: No, no. Rather, doctor, your doc..., civil ser..., man, he said that, "Avoid plane." For me he had said.
Trivikrama: Yes, because the atmosphere changes.
Dr. Patel: But pressurized plane, no. On nonpressurized plane, not.
Trivikrama: He is the knower of his body.
Dr. Patel: All right. I had gone to Allahabad by train. (laughs) I had a very bad experience myself.
Prabhupāda: No, first-class is... We reserved whole room, so no outsider there; will be very comfortable. We'll leave at...
Dr. Patel: First-class have got now berths.
Prabhupāda: Four, we reserve four whenever... So two upper berths, two lower berths—we sleep very comfortably-lock the door. And first-class...