Scholar: I think it's also according to the society. First we have to learn and after we come to the stage of sannyāsī, only then we are...
Prabhupāda: It is no question of sannyāsa, sannyāsa you take or not take, you must be in knowledge what is your next life.
Scholar: But if the...?
Prabhupāda: Do you mean to say we shall keep ourself in darkness about our next life? Is that your philosophy?
Scholar: Well I think we have to start from... We give a child educations and then gṛhastha, and vānaprastha,...
Prabhupāda: That is all right, gṛhastha, vānaprastha, that is a, different stages. But the real education is that you have to die. You have to accept another body. What kind of body you are going to accept? If you do not know that what is this meaning of gṛhastha, and vānaprastha, and sannyāsa? It is all rascal. If you do not... You miss this real point, then what is the meaning of this? There's no meaning. Simply by dressing in white cloth one becomes gṛhastha? And simply by dressing one, in this saffron cloth, he becomes sannyāsī? By changing dress he becomes everything? He must know, that what is the aim of life. Everyone should know what is the ultimate of life.
Scholar: Yes.
Prabhupāda: If he does not know, if he is in darkness for the next life, then what is the meaning of this gṛhastha and vānaprastha and this...?