Dr. Patel: These two parts of India... (Hindi) Bengal and Kerala, they're highly educated communities. They are the, I mean, advanced Communists also, both the countries. In Gujarat there is no communism, though we are educated. (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: (Hindi)
Dr. Patel: Just like assassin is aside.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And otherwise you will find Caitanya and other, so many big, big men. Rabindranath Tagore, Surendranath Bannerjee, Vivekananda, and so on, so on. (Hindi) Aurobindo was condemned to death.
Dr. Patel: His brother.
Prabhupāda: No, no, he.
Dr. Patel: No, sir, I think...
Prabhupāda: No, no, no. He was condemned to death, then C.R. Das saved him. Then he decided, "This politic has no value. Let me go to Kṛṣṇa consciousness." He dreamed at night, "Why you are bothering with these things?" This is the history. So just after getting off, the judge, immediately left.
Dr. Patel: He came back Candranagar(?), to his place. (Hindi) He never came. After svarājya he never came.
Prabhupāda: But that is all nonsense. That is...
Dr. Patel: (break) ...find fulfillment there only, God consciousness.
Prabhupāda: Bhaktiḥ pareśānubhavo viraktir anyatra syāt (SB 11.2.42). This is the sign of bhakti, that he has no more taste in anything material. That is bhakti.