So as soon as you accept this body, material body, you become subjected to the four laws of material nature. These four laws of material nature are that as soon as you've accepted this body, then you must accept death. Anything which is born must meet death also. Birth, death. And in the via media there is old age and disease. This body... I have got, you have got, everyone. There is a death of getting this body, and there will be a death of leaving this body. And between these two deaths there are so many other miserable conditions. They are summarized: old age and disease. But the real science is that "I am the soul. I am the part and parcel of the Supreme Lord. So Supreme Lord, God, is eternal.
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<div id=" | <div id="CC_Madhya-lila" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta" text="CC Madhya-lila"><h3>CC Madhya-lila</h3> | ||
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource: | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Madhya 8.194|CC Madhya 8.194, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">“"Alas, before We met there was an initial attachment between Us brought about by an exchange of glances. In this way attachment evolved. That attachment has gradually grown, and there is no limit to it. Now that attachment has become a natural sequence between Ourselves. It is not that it is due to Kṛṣṇa, the enjoyer, nor is it due to Me, for I am the enjoyed. It is not like that. This attachment was made possible by mutual meeting. This mutual exchange of attraction is known as manobhava, or Cupid. Kṛṣṇa"s mind and My mind have merged together. Now, during this time of separation, it is very difficult to explain these loving affairs. My dear friend, though Kṛṣṇa might have forgotten all these things, you can understand and bring this message to Him. But during Our first meeting there was no messenger between Us, nor did I request anyone to see Him. Indeed, Cupid's five arrows were Our via media. Now, during this separation, that attraction has increased to another ecstatic state. My dear friend, please act as a messenger on My behalf, because if one is in love with a beautiful person, this is the consequence.’</p> | ||
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<div id="CCMadhya118_1" class="quote" parent="CC_Madhya-lila" book="CC" index="2278" link="CC Madhya 11.8" link_text="CC Madhya 11.8"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Madhya 11.8|CC Madhya 11.8, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Thus there is a spiritual nature beyond this material world, and that spiritual nature exists eternally. Spiritual advancement means stopping material activities and entering into spiritual activities. This is the process of bhakti-yoga. In the material world, the via media for sense gratification is mainly a woman. One who is seriously interested in spiritual life should strictly avoid women. A sannyāsī should never see a man or a woman for material benefit. In addition, talks with materialistic men and women are also dangerous, and they are compared to drinking poison. Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu was very strict on this point. He therefore refused to see King Pratāparudra, who was naturally always engaged in political and economic affairs. The Lord even refused to see the King despite the request of a personality like Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya, who was the Lord's intimate friend and devotee.</p> | |||
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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2> | |||
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG29AucklandFebruary211973_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="43" link="Lecture on BG 2.9 -- Auckland, February 21, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.9 -- Auckland, February 21, 1973"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.9 -- Auckland, February 21, 1973|Lecture on BG 2.9 -- Auckland, February 21, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So as soon as you accept this body, material body, you become subjected to the four laws of material nature. These four laws of material nature are that as soon as you've accepted this body, then you must accept death. Anything which is born must meet death also. Birth, death. And in the via media there is old age and disease. This body... I have got, you have got, everyone. There is a death of getting this body, and there will be a death of leaving this body. And between these two deaths there are so many other miserable conditions. They are summarized: old age and disease. But the real science is that "I am the soul. I am the part and parcel of the Supreme Lord. So Supreme Lord, God, is eternal.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG211EdinburghJuly161972_1" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="47" link="Lecture on BG 2.11 -- Edinburgh, July 16, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.11 -- Edinburgh, July 16, 1972"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.11 -- Edinburgh, July 16, 1972|Lecture on BG 2.11 -- Edinburgh, July 16, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">To go back to Godhead means you don't get this material body. So long you get this material body, you have to change. That is the material nature. Anything which is material, it has got a date of birth and it has got a date of annihilation. And in the via media there is growth, their existence. So this body, not only this body, even this material world, it has got a date or creation, and it will be annihilated. This is explained in the Bhagavad-gītā. Bhūtvā bhūtvā pralīyate ([[Vanisource:BG 8.19 (1972)|BG 8.19]]). It comes into manifestation once, and again it is destroyed. This is material existence. When you go back to home, back to Godhead, you haven't got to accept this material body. Your spiritual body is already there within this material body. And in that spiritual body you shall exist along with God. That is the highest perfection of life.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG226HyderabadNovember301972_2" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="92" link="Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Hyderabad, November 30, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Hyderabad, November 30, 1972"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Hyderabad, November 30, 1972|Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Hyderabad, November 30, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So the body was not existing before. And it will not exist after death. So in the via media, if the manifestation of body is there, so why it should be the object of lamentation? In this way, Kṛṣṇa is trying to convince Arjuna that he should act as kṣatriya and perform his duty. A kṣatriya is profited, either dead or alive. That will be explained.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG226HyderabadNovember301972_3" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="92" link="Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Hyderabad, November 30, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Hyderabad, November 30, 1972"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Hyderabad, November 30, 1972|Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Hyderabad, November 30, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So because it is duty, it is ordained by the śāstras, therefore they are not ordinary killing. Avyakta-nidhanāny eva tatra kā pari... "It was nonmanifested before, and it will become nonmanifested again. So why should you lament for the via media?"</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG226HyderabadNovember301972_4" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="92" link="Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Hyderabad, November 30, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Hyderabad, November 30, 1972"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Hyderabad, November 30, 1972|Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Hyderabad, November 30, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So it is not very astonishing. Because the whole world is being conducted, the whole material nature is being conducted by the three guṇas, and anyone associating with a particular type of guṇa, he must suffer or enjoy according to that guṇas. Jaghanya-guṇa-vṛtti-sthā adho gacchanti tāmasāḥ. Tāmasa, they, those who are in the tāmasika-guṇa, they go adhaḥ. Madhye tiṣṭhanti rājasāḥ. And via media, those who are in touch with the rajo-guṇa. And ūrdhvaṁ gacchanti sattva-sthāḥ: ([[Vanisource:BG 14.18 (1972)|BG 14.18]]) those who are in the goodness, they go up, in the upper platform of the society or in the universe.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG23637LondonSeptember41973_5" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="100" link="Lecture on BG 2.36-37 -- London, September 4, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.36-37 -- London, September 4, 1973"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.36-37 -- London, September 4, 1973|Lecture on BG 2.36-37 -- London, September 4, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That is your credit. When you are fighting with the enemies, if you become compassionate, "How shall I kill?" that is cowardice. Therefore Kṛṣṇa concludes here: hato vā prāpsyasi svargaṁ jitvā vā bhokṣyase mahīm. There are two alternatives. For a fighter, for a kṣatriya, to fight in the battle, either gain victory or die. No via media. Fight to the last point if you are able, then become victorious. Or die. No stoppage. All this fighting were meant like that. According to the Vedic culture, the kṣatriyas... Not the brāhmaṇas.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG31119LosAngelesDecember271968_6" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="119" link="Lecture on BG 3.11-19 -- Los Angeles, December 27, 1968" link_text="Lecture on BG 3.11-19 -- Los Angeles, December 27, 1968"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 3.11-19 -- Los Angeles, December 27, 1968|Lecture on BG 3.11-19 -- Los Angeles, December 27, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Naturally fallen from higher to lower. Then you make progress, again come to this human being. This is a via media with good consciousness. If you utilize your good consciousness then you go still higher, you go to God. But if you don't use your higher consciousness then again go to down. This is going on, cycle of birth and death.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG64647LosAngelesFebruary211969_7" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="224" link="Lecture on BG 6.46-47 -- Los Angeles, February 21, 1969" link_text="Lecture on BG 6.46-47 -- Los Angeles, February 21, 1969"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 6.46-47 -- Los Angeles, February 21, 1969|Lecture on BG 6.46-47 -- Los Angeles, February 21, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Any religion where God is the target, that is applied in bhakti. But when there is no God or impersonalism, there is no question of bhakti-yoga. Bhakti-yoga means bhaja jayukti bhaja-sevayā(?). Service. Service means three things: the servitor, the served, and service. One must be present who will accept service. And one must be present to render service. And in the via media, the process of service. So bhakti-yoga means service. If there is nobody to accept the service, then where is the bhakti-yoga? So any philosophy or religious principle where there is no acceptance of God, the Supreme, there is no application of bhakti.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG81GenevaJune71974_8" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="288" link="Lecture on BG 8.1 -- Geneva, June 7, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 8.1 -- Geneva, June 7, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 8.1 -- Geneva, June 7, 1974|Lecture on BG 8.1 -- Geneva, June 7, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Just like we cannot see without the sunrise. Still, we are very much proud of seeing. We say, "Can you show me God?" Well, can you see God? You cannot see without sunshine, and still, you are so much proud of your eyes. That is called adhama. He has no knowledge; still, he's taking Ph.D. degree and getting Nobel Prize. This is going on. So Kṛṣṇa is the Puruṣottama, uttama-puruṣa. The madhyama-puruṣa is the Supersoul. Via media between Kṛṣṇa and we. We are adhama-puruṣa. So Kṛṣṇa is addressed as uttama-puruṣa, "the best of all puruṣas, or enjoyers." Adhibhūtam, the matter, five elements of matter. Kiṁ proktam. Which of them are called the Brahman, ātmā.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG134BombaySeptember271973_9" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="350" link="Lecture on BG 13.4 -- Bombay, September 27, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 13.4 -- Bombay, September 27, 1973"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 13.4 -- Bombay, September 27, 1973|Lecture on BG 13.4 -- Bombay, September 27, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Similarly, there are persons who are via media—half this side, half that side. And there are persons who are fully in Bombay life. Or Bombay... Any city life. We don't speak only Bombay. Suppose we are in London. We are wandering, traveling in many, many nice cities better than Bombay. What is Bombay? Bombay is nothing in comparison to New York or Chicago or Tokyo. Very, very big, big cities.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG1713HonoluluJuly41974_10" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="402" link="Lecture on BG 17.1-3 -- Honolulu, July 4, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 17.1-3 -- Honolulu, July 4, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 17.1-3 -- Honolulu, July 4, 1974|Lecture on BG 17.1-3 -- Honolulu, July 4, 1974]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Authority is your spiritual master. You do not know who is authority? Why this question is there? If one is initiated, then he accepted the authority. And if he does not follow the instruction of spiritual master, he is a rascal. He is defying the authority. That's all.</p> | |||
<p>Sudāmā: The question also is there: the authority is the spiritual master, but the via media to the spiritual master... The difference between, like we were discussing in the automobile of śikṣā and dīkṣā-guru.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Then so śikṣā and dīkṣā-guru... A śikṣā-guru who instructs against the instruction of spiritual, he is not a śikṣā guru. He is a demon. Śikṣā-guru, dīkṣā-guru means... Sometimes a dīkṣā-guru is not present always. Therefore one can take learning, instruction, from an advanced devotee. That is called the śikṣā-guru. Śikṣā-guru does not mean he is speaking something against the teachings of the dīkṣā-guru. He is not a śikṣā-guru. He is a rascal.</p> | |||
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB111CaracasFebruary211975_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="5" link="Lecture on SB 1.1.1 -- Caracas, February 21, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.1.1 -- Caracas, February 21, 1975"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.1.1 -- Caracas, February 21, 1975|Lecture on SB 1.1.1 -- Caracas, February 21, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">At the present moment, on account of our material contamination, our mind is contaminated with so many material things. If you purify your mind, then you come to the spiritual platform. That is intelligence, via media between the spirit and the mind. First of all body, finer than the body is mind. Then finer than the mind is the intelligence. And finer than the intelligence is the soul.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB126RomeMay241974_1" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="43" link="Lecture on SB 1.2.6 -- Rome, May 24, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.2.6 -- Rome, May 24, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.2.6 -- Rome, May 24, 1974|Lecture on SB 1.2.6 -- Rome, May 24, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Others are trying to make them śūdras. Śūdras means to remain in ignorance, and brāhmaṇa means to remain in knowledge. That is the difference between brāhmaṇa and śūdra. And these two other classes, via media, kṣatriya and vaiśya. The brāhmaṇas are supposed to be the first-class men in the society. The kṣatriyas, the second class, the vaiśyas, the third class, and the remaining, all fourth class and fifth class.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB1212DelhiNovember181973_2" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="65" link="Lecture on SB 1.2.12 -- Delhi, November 18, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.2.12 -- Delhi, November 18, 1973"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.2.12 -- Delhi, November 18, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.2.12 -- Delhi, November 18, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore it has said, jñāna-vairāgya-yuktayā. Then you have to become vairāgī to your puffed up consciousness that "I am master, I am God, I am this, I am that." No. That is called jñāna and vairāgya. Jñāna-vairāgya-yuktayā. And again it is confirmed, bhaktyā. As soon as the bhakti word is used, there is no question of becoming master. Bhakti is used via media between Bhagavān and bhakta. The dealings of Bhagavān and bhakta is called bhakti. Bhakti, bhaja-dhātu. Bhaja-dhātu sevāyām. Sevāyām. Sevā mean there is a sevaka and there is a master, sevya, one who is worshiped and one who serves.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB1216VrndavanaOctober271972_3" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="73" link="Lecture on SB 1.2.16 -- Vrndavana, October 27, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.2.16 -- Vrndavana, October 27, 1972"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.2.16 -- Vrndavana, October 27, 1972|Lecture on SB 1.2.16 -- Vrndavana, October 27, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So all these informations are there. Simply we have to know. Unfortunately, because we are too much materially absorbed, we cannot understand. We cannot understand. Neither we are very much interested to know. So vāsudeva-kathā-ruciḥ. There is no ruci because they are conditioned by the material nature, by the three modes of material nature: sattva-guṇa, rajo-guṇa... Tamo-guṇa is the lowest, rajo-guṇa is the via media, and one who is the sattva-guṇa, he can understand. Therefore the whole Vedic civilization is meant for making people brāhmaṇa. Not to keep him in ignorance, not to keep him in the position of a śūdra. The whole Vedic scheme is that from the lowest grade of li..., existence, one can be elevated to the highest grade.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB1223VrndavanaNovember31972_4" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="90" link="Lecture on SB 1.2.23 -- Vrndavana, November 3, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.2.23 -- Vrndavana, November 3, 1972"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.2.23 -- Vrndavana, November 3, 1972|Lecture on SB 1.2.23 -- Vrndavana, November 3, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So here it is said, sthity-ādaye hari-viriñci-hareti saṁjñāḥ. This, the same Lord, Supreme Personality of Godhead, Viṣṇu, has expanded Himself as Lord Śiva and Lord Brahmā. We are also expansions. Brahmā is also jīva-tattva. He's also like us, jīva-tattva. Lord Śiva is between viṣṇu-tattva and jīva-tattva. And Lord Viṣṇu is viṣṇu-tattva. Viṣṇu-tattva, via media, and jīva-tattva. So they are all expansions of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So for controlling these three guṇas they have taken charge. Viṣṇu is in charge of sattva-guṇa, and Brahmā is in charge of rajo-guṇa and Lord Śiva is in charge of tamo-guṇa.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB1528VrndavanaAugust91974_5" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="148" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.28 -- Vrndavana, August 9, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.28 -- Vrndavana, August 9, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.28 -- Vrndavana, August 9, 1974|Lecture on SB 1.5.28 -- Vrndavana, August 9, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">One who is under the material energy, they are entangled with these three guṇas: sattva-guṇa, rajo-guṇa, tamo-guṇa. The lowest is the tamo-guṇa, and via media is the rajo-guṇa, and the topmost, goodness, is sattva-guṇa. So even in sattva-guṇa, that is also entanglement. Rajo-guṇa, tamo-guṇa is certainly entanglement, but even rajo-guṇa, even one is situated in the sattva-guṇa... Sattva-guṇa means perfect brāhmaṇa.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB1845LosAngelesMay71973_6" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="250" link="Lecture on SB 1.8.45 -- Los Angeles, May 7, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.8.45 -- Los Angeles, May 7, 1973"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.8.45 -- Los Angeles, May 7, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.8.45 -- Los Angeles, May 7, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">And uttama means high grade. Uttama and adhama. And madhyama. Madhyama means via-media. There are three grades in everything, first class, second class, third class. So this class of students, adhama, who are not interested to understand God or Kṛṣṇa, they are third-class student. Adhama-paḍuyā. Caitanya Mahāprabhu was explaining during His instruction, Kṛṣṇa. But the adhama-paḍuyā did not like it.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB11611LosAngelesJanuary81974_7" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="327" link="Lecture on SB 1.16.11 -- Los Angeles, January 8, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.16.11 -- Los Angeles, January 8, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.16.11 -- Los Angeles, January 8, 1974|Lecture on SB 1.16.11 -- Los Angeles, January 8, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So devotee hasn't got any personal decision. That is the process of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Evaṁ paramparā-prāptam imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 4.2 (1972)|BG 4.2]]). We should decide by the order of Kṛṣṇa through the disciplic succession, via media, the spiritual master. That is required. A devotee cannot decide personally. If Kṛṣṇa desires... If somebody says that "We cannot see Kṛṣṇa personally," then you have to decide by Kṛṣṇa's representative. If your spiritual master, guru, says that "You do this," that is Kṛṣṇa's order. That is Kṛṣṇa's order.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB32522BombayNovember221974_8" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="444" link="Lecture on SB 3.25.22 -- Bombay, November 22, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.25.22 -- Bombay, November 22, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.25.22 -- Bombay, November 22, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.25.22 -- Bombay, November 22, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So sādhu is representative of Kṛṣṇa. Or Kṛṣṇa directly... Sādhu will never say that "You serve me." Sādhu will say, "Serve Kṛṣṇa." Therefore we have to approach Kṛṣṇa through sādhu. Not directly. That is not... That is confirmed by Vaiṣṇava ācārya, Narottama dāsa: chāḍiyā vaiṣṇava-sevā nistāra pāyeche kebā. You cannot directly approach Kṛṣṇa. You have to go through the media, the transparent via media of his representative.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB32530BombayNovember301974_9" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="452" link="Lecture on SB 3.25.30 -- Bombay, November 30, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.25.30 -- Bombay, November 30, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.25.30 -- Bombay, November 30, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.25.30 -- Bombay, November 30, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Guru is very confidential servant of Kṛṣṇa. Why confidential servant? Because he is canvassing door to door, "Please become Kṛṣṇa conscious. Please surrender to Kṛṣṇa." Kṛṣṇa says to Arjuna, sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66 (1972)|BG 18.66]]), and guru takes that very mission, but does not say like Kṛṣṇa, that "Your surrender to me." He says, "Surrender to Kṛṣṇa." One has to surrender to Kṛṣṇa through the via media of guru, directly. This is the process. Therefore guru accepts respects from the disciple not for his personal self, but conveying the respect to Kṛṣṇa. This is the process. Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādo yasyāprasādān na gatiḥ kuto 'pi **. If you cannot get the mercy of guru, then it is very difficult to approach Kṛṣṇa. We cannot approach Kṛṣṇa directly.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB3269BombayDecember211974_10" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="473" link="Lecture on SB 3.26.9 -- Bombay, December 21, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.26.9 -- Bombay, December 21, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.9 -- Bombay, December 21, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.26.9 -- Bombay, December 21, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">We should understand this relationship. The material nature has got relationship with both God and the living entities, but the activities of the two living entities, namely the aṇu and vibhu... God is Vibhu or Prabhu, and living entity is aṇu or servant, and the via media is the material nature. So we cannot control material nature. That is not possible. We are controlled. We are being controlled. Tribhir guṇamayair bhāvair mohitam, nābhijānāti mām ebhyaḥ param avyayam ([[Vanisource:BG 7.13 (1972)|BG 7.13]]). We are always being controlled. And... But the prakṛti, material nature, is being controlled by the Supreme Lord.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB32615BombayDecember241974_11" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="476" link="Lecture on SB 3.26.15 -- Bombay, December 24, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.26.15 -- Bombay, December 24, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.15 -- Bombay, December 24, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.26.15 -- Bombay, December 24, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So saṅkhyāta, saṅkhyāyati iti sāṅkhya. This is Sāṅkhya philosophy, to know analytical study of the whole cosmic manifestation. That is called Sāṅkhya philosophy. It is physical. And the kāla is via media. And then the soul and the Supersoul. So if we understand thoroughly this analytical study of the whole thing, then we know Sāṅkhya philosophy, saṅkhyāta, Sāṅkhya, in its numerical count.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB32617BombayDecember261974_12" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="478" link="Lecture on SB 3.26.17 -- Bombay, December 26, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.26.17 -- Bombay, December 26, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.17 -- Bombay, December 26, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.26.17 -- Bombay, December 26, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So these demigods or even we... We are also the same principle, the living entities. Brahmā is also in the category of living entities, and Lord Śiva is between the living entities and the Supreme Lord, in between. Therefore you cannot keep Lord Śiva as living entity category, neither Viṣṇu category. Via media. Kṣīraṁ yathā dadhi vikāra-viśeṣa-yogāt (Bs. 5.45). The Supreme Personality of Godhead does not come directly in touch with this prakṛti, but the form by which He touches this prakṛti, that is Lord Śiva.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB32617BombayDecember261974_13" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="478" link="Lecture on SB 3.26.17 -- Bombay, December 26, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.26.17 -- Bombay, December 26, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.17 -- Bombay, December 26, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.26.17 -- Bombay, December 26, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So kāla, time factor, is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. It is above these twenty-four ingredients of material elements. It is in between the spiritual element and the material element, via media, that kāla. This is the description of kāla.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB326234BombayJanuary11975_14" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="484" link="Lecture on SB 3.26.23-4 -- Bombay, January 1, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.26.23-4 -- Bombay, January 1, 1975"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.23-4 -- Bombay, January 1, 1975|Lecture on SB 3.26.23-4 -- Bombay, January 1, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Buddhayo 'vyavasāyinām. Vyavasāyātmikā, niścayātmikā. "Now, my life will be successful when I accept very seriously the instruction given by Kṛṣṇa and it is delivered to me through the transparent via media of guru. Then it will be successful." Ār nā koriho mane āśā.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB32647BombayJanuary221975_15" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="503" link="Lecture on SB 3.26.47 -- Bombay, January 22, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.26.47 -- Bombay, January 22, 1975"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.47 -- Bombay, January 22, 1975|Lecture on SB 3.26.47 -- Bombay, January 22, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So that is to be cleansed. The via media impediment has to be cleansed. That is called ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam ([[Vanisource:CC Antya 20.12|CC Antya 20.12]]). By chanting this transcendental vibration, your heart will be cleansed. Puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 1.2.17|SB 1.2.17]]). The more you chant and hear, śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ, then it becomes pious activities.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB6144LosAngelesJune101976_16" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="675" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.44 -- Los Angeles, June 10, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.44 -- Los Angeles, June 10, 1976"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.44 -- Los Angeles, June 10, 1976|Lecture on SB 6.1.44 -- Los Angeles, June 10, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So how one is intelligent, how one is dull, how one is via media—that is due to these three guṇas: sattva-guṇa, rajo-guṇa, tamo-guṇa. If one is intelligent, that is one of the qualification of sattva-guṇa. Jñānaṁ vijñānam āstikyam. The brahminical qualification... Satyaḥ śamo damo titikṣa arjavam eva ca, jñānam vijñānam āstikyam brahma-karma svabhāva-jam ([[Vanisource:BG 18.42 (1972)|BG 18.42]]). In the society, human society, there must be a class of brāhmaṇa, intelligent class.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB6146DetroitJune121976_17" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="679" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.46 -- Detroit, June 12, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.46 -- Detroit, June 12, 1976"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.46 -- Detroit, June 12, 1976|Lecture on SB 6.1.46 -- Detroit, June 12, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So everything should be seen through the śāstra. Śāstra-cakṣuṣāt. This is Vedic process. In the śāstra it is said that ūrdhvaṁ gacchanti sattva-sthāḥ: ([[Vanisource:BG 14.18 (1972)|BG 14.18]]) elevation in this material world is when a person is in the sattva-guṇa, the modes of goodness. And middle, via media, is rajo-guṇa. Madhye tiṣṭhanti rājasāḥ. And jaghanya-guṇa-vṛtti-sthā adho gacchanti tāmasāḥ. Those who are very, very low class, jaghanya-vṛtti, their behavior is very, very abominable, they go down, adho gacchanti.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB6149NewOrleansFarmAugust11975_18" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="684" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.49 -- New Orleans Farm, August 1, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.49 -- New Orleans Farm, August 1, 1975"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.49 -- New Orleans Farm, August 1, 1975|Lecture on SB 6.1.49 -- New Orleans Farm, August 1, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Similarly, those who are in the sattva-guṇa, for them everything is clear, and those who are in the tamo-guṇa, everything is ignorance, and those who are mixed up, neither rajo-guṇa, neither tamo-guṇa, via media, they are called rajo-guṇa. Three guṇas. Tamasā. So they are simply interested in the present body, does not care what is going to happen, and has no knowledge what he was before. There is another place it is described: nūnaṁ pramattaḥ kurute vikarma ([[Vanisource:SB 5.5.4|SB 5.5.4]]). Pramattaḥ, just like madman.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB761SanFranciscoMarch31967_19" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="733" link="Lecture on SB 7.6.1 -- San Francisco, March 3, 1967" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.6.1 -- San Francisco, March 3, 1967"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.6.1 -- San Francisco, March 3, 1967|Lecture on SB 7.6.1 -- San Francisco, March 3, 1967]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So spiritual master is the negotiator. He is the broker. Of course, without any brokerage, but he is supposed to be the broker or the transparent medium. My Guru Mahārāja used to say, "the transparent media, via media." Just like my eyes are not very perfect, so I am using this transparent via media to see, similarly, because we have forgotten our relationship with Kṛṣṇa, or God, so we have to see through the transparent via media of spiritual master. Otherwise it is very difficult. That is the process. That is the process. Therefore Bhāgavata, er, Vedic literature gives you injunction, tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet (MU 1.2.12). Tad-vijñānārtham.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB7610NewVrindabanJune261976_20" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="766" link="Lecture on SB 7.6.10 -- New Vrindaban, June 26, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.6.10 -- New Vrindaban, June 26, 1976"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.6.10 -- New Vrindaban, June 26, 1976|Lecture on SB 7.6.10 -- New Vrindaban, June 26, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Although our constitutional position is to serve, but artificially we want to give up service and we want to enjoy. That is material disease. So gradually, if we want to enjoy material world, then we require money. Money is the via media for enjoyment of material world. People are working so hard, day and night, just to get money because money is the source or the means of sense enjoyment. That is the disease, sense enjoyment.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB772931SanFranciscoMarch151967incompletelecture_21" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="779" link="Lecture on SB 7.7.29-31 -- San Francisco, March 15, 1967, (incomplete lecture)" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.7.29-31 -- San Francisco, March 15, 1967, (incomplete lecture)"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.7.29-31 -- San Francisco, March 15, 1967, (incomplete lecture)|Lecture on SB 7.7.29-31 -- San Francisco, March 15, 1967, (incomplete lecture)]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So therefore Kṛṣṇa, offering is to Kṛṣṇa through the transparent via media of spiritual master. Because directly I do not know Kṛṣṇa. Directly I do not know how to offer Kṛṣṇa. Therefore my business is to offer it through the agent. Just like if you want to pay something to the government, you have to pay to the treasury, not directly to president. You have to pay through the treasury. Similarly, this is the process of understanding Kṛṣṇa consciousness.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB7910MontrealJuly91968_22" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="806" link="Lecture on SB 7.9.10 -- Montreal, July 9, 1968" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.9.10 -- Montreal, July 9, 1968"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.9.10 -- Montreal, July 9, 1968|Lecture on SB 7.9.10 -- Montreal, July 9, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore one has to corroborate these three things: scriptures, and statement of saintly persons, and statement of spiritual master. The spiritual master is via media. The disciple, if he cannot understand the statement of the scriptures or any saintly person, he submits his doubts before the spiritual master and he clears it. In this way we have to make progress.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB7926MayapurMarch41976_23" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="833" link="Lecture on SB 7.9.26 -- Mayapur, March 4, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.9.26 -- Mayapur, March 4, 1976"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.9.26 -- Mayapur, March 4, 1976|Lecture on SB 7.9.26 -- Mayapur, March 4, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">There are three qualities: sattva-guṇa, rajo-guṇa, tamo-guṇa. So if you develop sattva-guṇa, then your body gradually will be sattva-guṇa-ized. Sattva-guṇa, the goodness... The body will be purified and become good. Good, bad, and via media, three kinds. So that is the process. Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement means everything is being gradually developed into goodness. And at last, to surpass goodness... Here in this material world the goodness may be contaminated with the other qualities, but in the spiritual world it is so good... It is called śuddha-sattva.</p> | |||
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<div id="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Lectures" text="Nectar of Devotion Lectures"><h3>Nectar of Devotion Lectures</h3> | |||
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionBombayJanuary11973_0" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="12" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 1, 1973" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 1, 1973"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 1, 1973|The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 1, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The process of seeing God... Sevonmukhe hi jihvādau svayam eva sphuraty adhaḥ. Ataḥ śrī-kṛṣṇa-nāmādi na bhaved grāhyam indriyaiḥ ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 17.136|CC Madhya 17.136]])]. Just like a person suffering from some disease, his eyesight is blocked. He has got the eyesight to see, but on account of some cataract disease, he cannot see. Similarly God is there, and I can see Him also. But the cataract of illusion is covering via media between God and me.</p> | |||
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionVrndavanaOctober271972_1" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="20" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 27, 1972" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 27, 1972"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 27, 1972|The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 27, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So rasa-vidhānena, by chemical interaction of sulphur and mercury, if you can add tin and copper, then it becomes gold. You can manufacture gold, provided you know the process, how to mix up copper, tin and mercury. With via media of sulphuric acid. Sulphuric acid is the mother of chemicals. Without sulphur, you cannot make any chemical composition. Therefore all chemical composition are called sulphate, sulphite, like that. So Sanātana Gosvāmī gives this idea of chemical composition. It appears that he knew how to work with chemicals.</p> | |||
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<div id="Festival_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Lectures" text="Festival Lectures"><h3>Festival Lectures</h3> | |||
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<div id="SrilaKrsnadasaKavirajaGosvamisAppearanceDayVrndavanaOctober191972_0" class="quote" parent="Festival_Lectures" book="Lec" index="31" link="Srila Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami's Appearance Day -- Vrndavana, October 19, 1972" link_text="Srila Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami's Appearance Day -- Vrndavana, October 19, 1972"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Srila Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami's Appearance Day -- Vrndavana, October 19, 1972|Srila Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami's Appearance Day -- Vrndavana, October 19, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So the most important chapter of Caitanya's teaching was to Rūpa Gosvāmī and Sanātana Gosvāmī. Teachings of Sanātana Gosvāmī, uh, Rūpa Gosvāmī and Rāmaṇanda Gosvāmī, Rāmānanda Rāya, so they are meant for devotees who are on the second stage. First stage, second stage, and third stage. The first stage is called mahā-bhāgavata, liberated devotee. And the second stage is via media between the lowest stage and liberated stage. And the lowest stage is called prākṛta-bhakta, means persons in material condition gradually being elevated to the supreme position of self-realization.</p> | |||
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<div id="General_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Lectures" text="General Lectures"><h3>General Lectures</h3> | |||
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<div id="LectureSeattleOctober181968_0" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="25" link="Lecture -- Seattle, October 18, 1968" link_text="Lecture -- Seattle, October 18, 1968"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture -- Seattle, October 18, 1968|Lecture -- Seattle, October 18, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So they are not in disagreement. What is spoken in the scripture is accepted by saintly person, and what is spoken in the scripture, the spiritual master explains only that thing. That's all. So via media is the scripture. Just like lawyer and the litigants-via media is the lawbook. Similarly, the spiritual master, the scripture... Saintly person means who confirms the Vedic injunction, who accepts. And scripture means what is accepted by the saintly person. And spiritual master means who follows the scriptures. So things equal to the same thing are equal to one another. This is axiomatic truth.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureLondonSeptember141969_1" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="60" link="Lecture -- London, September 14, 1969" link_text="Lecture -- London, September 14, 1969"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture -- London, September 14, 1969|Lecture -- London, September 14, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So therefore, our life is always full with sinful activity. So when you surrender to Kṛṣṇa through his transparent via media, not that immediately your sinful activities are stopped, but because you surrendered to the Supreme, He absorbs your sinful activities. He makes you free. But you should be conscious that "I shall not commit any more." Caitanya Mahāprabhu, when He accepted Jagāi-Mādhāi, great sinful brothers, He simply asked them, "You simply promise that 'Henceforward we shall not commit any sinful activities.' Whatever you have done I am taking.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureJakartaFebruary261973_2" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="131" link="Lecture -- Jakarta, February 26, 1973" link_text="Lecture -- Jakarta, February 26, 1973"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture -- Jakarta, February 26, 1973|Lecture -- Jakarta, February 26, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This is the defect of the modern civilization. But actually what Kṛṣṇa is trying to instruct Arjuna... Arjuna means everyone. He's not simply talking with Arjuna. Arjuna is simply via media. He's talking to the whole human society, intelligent class of men, that "We existed, we are existing now, and we shall exist also in the future." This is called sanātana, eternity. So na caiva na bhaviṣyāmaḥ: "In the future we also shall exist." Now we should consider what is the problem now: I was present in the past, I am now present in the present, and I shall exist in the future.</p> | |||
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<div id="Philosophy_Discussions" class="sub_section" sec_index="13" parent="Lectures" text="Philosophy Discussions"><h3>Philosophy Discussions</h3> | |||
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononJohnStuartMill_0" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="8" link="Philosophy Discussion on John Stuart Mill" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on John Stuart Mill"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on John Stuart Mill|Philosophy Discussion on John Stuart Mill]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So our position is like that. We have come to this material world to enjoy, giving up the company of God. So God has allowed him, "All right, you enjoy and experience. When you will experience that this material enjoyment is not good, then you will again come back." So He is guiding the enjoyment of the living being, especially of the human being so that he may again come back to home, back to Godhead. And nature is the via media agent, under the instruction of God. So if he (is) too much addicted to misuse the freedom, then he is punished, and that is also according to his desire.</p> | |||
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononWilliamJames_1" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="9" link="Philosophy Discussion on William James" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on William James"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on William James|Philosophy Discussion on William James]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. That is very nice. Morality means to execute the orders of God. If God is satisfied then it is moral. Otherwise our so-called convention in this material conception of life, "This is good," "This is bad," they are described as mental concoction. We must have clear orders from God, and if we execute it for the satisfaction of God, this means, in other words, morality means the action which satisfies God, the Supreme Lord. That is morality. And if he does not satisfy the Lord, then it is not morality; it is immorality. We therefore sing every day yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādo **, and the orders of God is carried through the representative of God, spiritual master, because directly we have no connection with God. The spiritual master is the transparent via media between God and ourself. In our perfect stage, of course, we can talk with God, but in the beginning, neophyte state, there is no such chance; therefore we have to take instruction from the spiritual master who has got direct connection with God. And if we satisfy the spiritual master, this means we have satisfied God. That is happiness.</p> | |||
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononBertrandRussell_2" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="20" link="Philosophy Discussion on Bertrand Russell" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Bertrand Russell"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Bertrand Russell|Philosophy Discussion on Bertrand Russell]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That I have already explained. Just like child does not know. He simply sees the fan is running-superficially. But he does not know that there is electricity power, and there is a powerhouse. So that is lack of knowledge. Therefore Bhagavad-gītā says, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). After many, many births, one comes to the real knowledge, and that is vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). Then he knows that Vāsudeva, Kṛṣṇa, is the original (indistinct). It is a question of knowing, and knowing through the direct current via media-guru. Otherwise he remains in darkness. Therefore guru-namastaya. Ajñāna timirāndasya. Everyone is blind by the darkness of ignorance. Jñānāñjana śalākayā. And the guru's business is to lighten ignorance, the śalāka. What is called, śalāka?</p> | |||
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononOrigen_3" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="30" link="Philosophy Discussion on Origen" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Origen"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Origen|Philosophy Discussion on Origen]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So generally, His personal expansion for creation of this material world are three also, accepted as Brahmā, Viṣṇu, Maheśvara. Viṣṇu is personal expansion, and Brahmā is expansion of the living entity, or the vibhinnāṁśa. And another expansion, via-media between the personal expansion and expansion of jīva, the via-media expansion is called Śiva. So the material creation is done by personal expansion primarily—the whole material ingredients, and then with the ingredients the guṇa-avatāra, Brahmā, he creates particularly. And Lord Śiva, when the time is right, he annihilates.</p> | |||
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononOrigen_4" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="30" link="Philosophy Discussion on Origen" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Origen"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Origen|Philosophy Discussion on Origen]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Literal... Generally, every word in the scripture there is literal meaning, but one who cannot understand properly because one does not hear from the proper person, he makes some interpretation. But there is no need of interpretation in the words of God. It may be that the words of God sometimes cannot be understood by ordinary person; therefore he requires to understand through the via-media of transparent guru. Guru is fully cognizant of the words spoken by God. One has to accept, therefore, a guru to go through the scripture properly. Generally there is no ambiguity in the words of God, but due to our lack of perfect knowledge we sometimes cannot understand and try to interpret. But this is, this interpretation is not at all feasible, because imperfect person interpreting means whatever he interprets, that is imperfect. So the proper import of the words of scripture or words of God should be understood from a person who has realized God.</p> | |||
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> | |||
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<div id="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1971 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1971 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationFebruary171971Gorakhpur_0" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="5" link="Room Conversation -- February 17, 1971, Gorakhpur" link_text="Room Conversation -- February 17, 1971, Gorakhpur"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- February 17, 1971, Gorakhpur|Room Conversation -- February 17, 1971, Gorakhpur]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No. He'll not judge. His spiritual master will judge. Kṛṣṇa's representative. He'll not judge. He will make mistake. Therefore, if one has accepted a bona fide spiritual master, that means he is in direct touch with Kṛṣṇa. Transparent media. He has to see Kṛṣṇa through the transparent medium of spiritual master. Therefore it is imperative, one has to accept a... Tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta jijñāsuḥ śreyaḥ uttamam ([[Vanisource:SB 11.3.21|SB 11.3.21]]). And what kind of guru? Śabde pare ca niṣṇataṁ brahmaṇy upāśamāśrayam. So this is a big science. One has to study. One has to understand. The things are there. There is no difficulty.</p> | |||
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationMarch161974Vrndavana_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="39" link="Room Conversation -- March 16, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation -- March 16, 1974, Vrndavana"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- March 16, 1974, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- March 16, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Harikeśa: Kṛṣṇa's...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: That, that I was explaining in the morning.</p> | |||
<p>Harikeśa: Yes.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Caitya-guru. One has to take the order of Kṛṣṇa through the media, via media of spiritual master.</p> | |||
<p>Harikeśa: So all of my activities, unless they are directly following your order, are more or less a concoction of my mind.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) ...office, you cannot contact the proprietor directly. There are subordinate officers. Through them you have to take the proprietor's help. The office master is there. You have to satisfy the office master. You cannot directly approach the proprietor. If you satisfy the office master, then your promotion and other things is all right.</p> | |||
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationwithBernardManischewitzMarch51975NewYork_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="23" link="Room Conversation with Bernard Manischewitz -- March 5, 1975, New York" link_text="Room Conversation with Bernard Manischewitz -- March 5, 1975, New York"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Bernard Manischewitz -- March 5, 1975, New York|Room Conversation with Bernard Manischewitz -- March 5, 1975, New York]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. This is experience. You will find many healthy persons in India subsisting only on these foodstuffs, and they have good brain also. India is still, I think, eighty percent people are strictly vegetarian. Not to speak of the higher class, but the lower class also. The higher class, brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya and vaiśya. Vaiśya is via media, between higher and lower. And the śūdras and less that the śūdras, caṇḍālas, they are lower class. So meat-eating is current among these lower class of men, śūdras and caṇḍālas. The caṇḍālas, they have no discrimination, they eat everything, and śūdras, they eat meat, but under restriction. Some of them do not; some of them do, but under restriction, and that is restricted with the goat animal. Less than the śūdras-caṇḍālas, pañcama, fifth grade—they eat everything. Especially they eat—because cow protection in India is very strict—so these caṇḍālas, fifth grade men, they eat generally pigs. Pigs they eat.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationsJuly261975LagunaBeach_1" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="156" link="Room Conversations -- July 26, 1975, Laguna Beach" link_text="Room Conversations -- July 26, 1975, Laguna Beach"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversations -- July 26, 1975, Laguna Beach|Room Conversations -- July 26, 1975, Laguna Beach]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Jayatīrtha: The hippies see that their fathers have not become happy by their riches.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, they have got some reason, certainly. So they refuse to adopt the way of life of their father or grandfather. So they must have some reason. But on the total we can see that these three classes of men—one in great prosperity, one via-media, and one in want... These three classes of men there are, everywhere, all over the world. Rather...</p> | |||
<p>Guest: Sir, are you familiar with Yogananda's Self-Realization Fellowship and the practice of recruiting wealthy people as patrons for people who are sincerely interested in following a spiritual pursuit?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm, what is...?</p> | |||
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkJanuary121976Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="10" link="Morning Walk -- January 12, 1976, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- January 12, 1976, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- January 12, 1976, Bombay|Morning Walk -- January 12, 1976, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: That is why guru brahma gurur viṣṇur guruḥ sākṣād maheśvaraḥ.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. That is fact. Sākṣād dharitvena samasta-śāstraiḥ. Caitanya Mahāprabhu also says, guru-kṛṣṇa-krpā: "By the mercy of guru and Kṛṣṇa."</p> | |||
<p>Dr. Patel: Guru is a go-between God and we ourselves.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, via media, via media.</p> | |||
<p>Dr. Patel: He holds your hand and gives that hand to God. That is guru. That is what I think. Am I right in a way?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Transparent medium. (break) (Hindi) ...realization.</p> | |||
<p>Dr. Patel: Realization is more important. Realization. Unless you realize, all is anti-thought.(?) Sāksād paro gatim.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch131976Mayapur_1" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="51" link="Morning Walk -- March 13, 1976, Mayapur" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 13, 1976, Mayapur"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 13, 1976, Mayapur|Morning Walk -- March 13, 1976, Mayapur]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Rāmeśvara: They all accept bribes or they do some illegal business themselves with the criminals they capture.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, regular... Every criminal has got organization to bribe the police. And the police does not take directly, and some in-between man, agent, he collects from the criminal and gives to the police. In India this is going on. I know that. A via-media man, he makes fortune. Yes. Whatever is collected, ten percent he takes, and balance is given to the police. There is a confectioner in Delhi. He is selling jalebi. You know jalebi?</p> | |||
<p>Devotees: Yes.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationwithEndowmentsCommissionerofAndhraPradeshAugust221976Hyderabad_2" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="279" link="Room Conversation with Endowments Commissioner of Andhra Pradesh -- August 22, 1976, Hyderabad" link_text="Room Conversation with Endowments Commissioner of Andhra Pradesh -- August 22, 1976, Hyderabad"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Endowments Commissioner of Andhra Pradesh -- August 22, 1976, Hyderabad|Room Conversation with Endowments Commissioner of Andhra Pradesh -- August 22, 1976, Hyderabad]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: They are doing that. You can see from this big, big person. Gandhi used to say that he believes in Gītā and Gītā gives him solace in difficult times and so on, so on. But has he ever preached about Kṛṣṇa? Tilok has ever preached about Kṛṣṇa? Radhakrishnan has ever preached Kṛṣṇa? Nobody. Their policy is take Sītā and kill Rāma. Rāvaṇa's policy. Take away Sītā. Take away Gītā and kill Kṛṣṇa. So Rāvaṇa's policy will never be successful. Rāvaṇa's policy means he will be destroyed. You cannot do any harm to Rāma, but he will be destroyed. This policy, that take Sītā and kill Rāma, means he will destroy himself. So this is going on. Take Gītā and kill Kṛṣṇa. This will destroy the whole thing. This Rāvaṇa's policy. And Hanumān's policy is somehow or other rescue Sītā and get her seated by the side of Rāma. Therefore he's worshiped, Vajrāṅgajī. That is the difference between Rāvaṇa's policy. Sītā is the via media. But one is trying to bring back Sītā and seat her by the side of Rāma, and another is trying to take away Sītā and kill Rāma. This wrong policy will not take. We have to accept the instruction of Gītā and accept Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Lord. Then everything will be all right. Prasāda? So thank you very much for your coming. So, kindly if you will agree to take the instruction of Gītā, I am always at your service. I'll give you such guidance, our men, our everything. But you have to decide this. You cannot take up this policy, take Gītā and banish Kṛṣṇa. That is wanted.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationSeptember41976Vrndavana_3" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="295" link="Room Conversation -- September 4, 1976, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation -- September 4, 1976, Vrndavana"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- September 4, 1976, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- September 4, 1976, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Caraṇāravindam. That the Englishmen were ruling over us. Now here is English boy, he's giving me massage and fanning me. What is the reason? Unless he feels something obligation, that "He has given us Kṛṣṇa," what business he has got? Not for him, for all of you, to give so valuable free service, unless there is this sense. What do you think? You have no obligation. You are European, American. I am Indian. It is through this via media Kṛṣṇa. This is practical. Therefore Kṛṣṇa is God. Yaṁ labdhvā cāparaṁ lābhaṁ manyate nādhikaṁ tataḥ. Because they have got sense that "We have got God," therefore they are feeling so much obliged. Kṛṣṇa is God, there is no doubt about it. It is not yet ready?</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationNovember201976Vrndavana_4" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="336" link="Room Conversation -- November 20, 1976, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation -- November 20, 1976, Vrndavana"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- November 20, 1976, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- November 20, 1976, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: It has come in by accident, combination. "So why, Arjuna, you are lamenting for the body which was not in existence? And it will not exist after. Then why you are so much anxious for the middle portion?" Good reasoning. The body was not in existence. That is the general... And as soon as you finish, there is no more existence. So via media, between the manifestation and nonmanifestation, in the middle there is some manifesta... Why you are so much absorbed in that part? Therefore the Europeans, Americans, they bring in the charges, "brainwash." "A brainwash movement. It has no actual value.</p> | |||
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationJanuary311977Bhuvanesvara_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="70" link="Room Conversation -- January 31, 1977, Bhuvanesvara" link_text="Room Conversation -- January 31, 1977, Bhuvanesvara"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 31, 1977, Bhuvanesvara|Room Conversation -- January 31, 1977, Bhuvanesvara]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. What is the use?</p> | |||
<p>Yogeśvara: But let us say by his karma a man is in a position where he cannot perceive...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: That is the... That is in the via media. The real trouble is there—janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi. Now if you can make change... Suppose you are now a dog. You can become a man. But that is not solution. Or you are man; you can become a demigod. Karma. But that does not make solution! Either you become demigod or man or dog or cat or insect, you must have these tribulations, janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi ([[Vanisource:BG 13.8-12 (1972)|BG 13.9]]). That is God's challenge. You first of all make solution.</p> | |||
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<div id="Correspondence" class="section" sec_index="6" parent="compilation" text="Correspondence"><h2>Correspondence</h2> | |||
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<div id="1966_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Correspondence" text="1966 Correspondence"><h3>1966 Correspondence</h3> | |||
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<div id="LettertoSirPadampatSinghaniaNewYork20January1966_0" class="quote" parent="1966_Correspondence" book="Let" index="3" link="Letter to Sir Padampat Singhania -- New York 20 January, 1966" link_text="Letter to Sir Padampat Singhania -- New York 20 January, 1966"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Sir Padampat Singhania -- New York 20 January, 1966|Letter to Sir Padampat Singhania -- New York 20 January, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So your conception of building temple of Lord Krishna is in opulence. But we our residents of Vrindaban and Vrindaban has no palaces like your Dvaraka. Vrindaban is full of forest and cows on the bank of the Yamuna and Lord Krishna in His childhood played the part of a cow boy without any royal opulence as you people inhabitants of Dvaraka think. So when the Dvarakawalas and the Vrindabanwalas meet there may be a via media.</p> | |||
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<div id="1967_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Correspondence" text="1967 Correspondence"><h3>1967 Correspondence</h3> | |||
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<div id="LettertoMadhusudanaSanFrancisco30December1967_0" class="quote" parent="1967_Correspondence" book="Let" index="255" link="Letter to Madhusudana -- San Francisco 30 December, 1967" link_text="Letter to Madhusudana -- San Francisco 30 December, 1967"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Madhusudana -- San Francisco 30 December, 1967|Letter to Madhusudana -- San Francisco 30 December, 1967]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Whatever allocation of duty there may be, if we try to execute such specific duty sincerely, that alone can make us much more advanced in Krishna Consciousness. In the Bhagavad-gita, it is stated that for the fixed up devotee there is one duty. This duty is understood through the transparent medium via media of the Spiritual Master. It is better service to Krishna and Spiritual Master in a feeling of separation; sometimes there is risk in the matter of direct service. For example, Kirtanananda was giving me direct service by massaging, cooking for me, and so many other things; but later on by dictation of Maya, he became puffed up, so much so that he thought his Spiritual Master a common man, and was existing only on account of his service.</p> | |||
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<div id="1968_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Correspondence" text="1968 Correspondence"><h3>1968 Correspondence</h3> | |||
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<div id="LettertoUmapatiLosAngeles14January1968_0" class="quote" parent="1968_Correspondence" book="Let" index="9" link="Letter to Umapati -- Los Angeles 14 January, 1968" link_text="Letter to Umapati -- Los Angeles 14 January, 1968"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Umapati -- Los Angeles 14 January, 1968|Letter to Umapati -- Los Angeles 14 January, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">I thank you very much for your acceptance of my guidance. My guidance means Krishna's guidance. I am very poor and therefore I can pray only to Krishna for your guidance. Krishna is Absolute and we are all under His guidance but the bona fide Spiritual Master is accepted as guidance because he is transparent via media between Krishna and the devotee. The devotee has no access to Krishna without the via media.</p> | |||
<p>From your letter I can guess a first hand knowledge of Kirtanananda and Hayagriva. In the meantime I have received two letters from Hayagriva; one is already replied and the other is pending. Our line of action is simultaneous service to the Spiritual Master and Krishna.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoPurusottamaLosAngeles2February1968_1" class="quote" parent="1968_Correspondence" book="Let" index="41" link="Letter to Purusottama -- Los Angeles 2 February, 1968" link_text="Letter to Purusottama -- Los Angeles 2 February, 1968"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Purusottama -- Los Angeles 2 February, 1968|Letter to Purusottama -- Los Angeles 2 February, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">And whenever we are mature in receiving the transcendental message from books like Bhagavad-gita, and Srimad-Bhagavatam, via media the transparent bona fide Spiritual Master, then we are able to chant or engage our tongue in the service of the Lord, being engaged in the service of the Lord. The material covering of our senses becomes inactive and actual spiritual form of activity becomes manifest.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoMahapurusaLosAngeles12February1968_2" class="quote" parent="1968_Correspondence" book="Let" index="52" link="Letter to Mahapurusa -- Los Angeles 12 February, 1968" link_text="Letter to Mahapurusa -- Los Angeles 12 February, 1968"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Mahapurusa -- Los Angeles 12 February, 1968|Letter to Mahapurusa -- Los Angeles 12 February, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">It is a great science. It requires great spiritual asset to adopt the principles. You have desired to meet with Maharishi Mahesa for argument, and as Lord Caitanya argued with Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya. Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya was talking on the basic principle of Vedanta. So there was a via media interpretation. This man does not follow any Sastra or any authority. He is authority by himself, and has manufactured his own meditation process. Therefore, he is not standard. We cannot waste our time with a non-standard loafer class man. Therefore do not agitate your mind in this way. We are following the footprints of Lord Caitanya. We are not going to become God, as Maharishi says every one of us is God.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoUpendraLosAngeles13February1968_3" class="quote" parent="1968_Correspondence" book="Let" index="56" link="Letter to Upendra -- Los Angeles 13 February, 1968" link_text="Letter to Upendra -- Los Angeles 13 February, 1968"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Upendra -- Los Angeles 13 February, 1968|Letter to Upendra -- Los Angeles 13 February, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So I have no right to accept service from any disciple, but on behalf of Krishna I can accept. Sincere service to the Spiritual Master is service to the Supreme Lord. As stated in the prayer, "Prasadad Bhagavat Prasadad". That means because Krishna accepts service through the via media of Spiritual Master, therefore pleasing the Spiritual Master is equal to pleasing the Supreme Lord.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoSatsvarupaSanFrancisco9April1968_4" class="quote" parent="1968_Correspondence" book="Let" index="142" link="Letter to Satsvarupa -- San Francisco 9 April, 1968" link_text="Letter to Satsvarupa -- San Francisco 9 April, 1968"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Satsvarupa -- San Francisco 9 April, 1968|Letter to Satsvarupa -- San Francisco 9 April, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">He simply goes to the temple, and offers everything with devotion to the Deity, and he doesn't know anything else. So our devotees of the society should not remain in the neophyte position; neither should they try to imitate the topmost devotee. Best thing is to remain in the via media of middle class position, namely to love God, to make friendship with devotees, and to enlighten the innocent, and to avoid the demons. These differences of body according to Karma are there, but a devotee divides them into the above groups, and so we have to divide them into these different groups and behave differently with each of the groups.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoGargamuniMontreal18June1968_5" class="quote" parent="1968_Correspondence" book="Let" index="206" link="Letter to Gargamuni -- Montreal 18 June, 1968" link_text="Letter to Gargamuni -- Montreal 18 June, 1968"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Gargamuni -- Montreal 18 June, 1968|Letter to Gargamuni -- Montreal 18 June, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">We being part and parcel of Krishna, when we surrender fully unto Krishna with sincerity of purpose, through the transparent via media of the spiritual master. One who thinks himself as Krishna's, he is non-different from Krishna. So the attitude which you are mentioning is the Grace of Krishna, and I wish by His Lordship's Mercy you will continue this aptitude of becoming more and more progressed in Krishna Consciousness. Thank you very much for thinking in such a nice way.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoHarivilasaMontreal25July1968_6" class="quote" parent="1968_Correspondence" book="Let" index="247" link="Letter to Harivilasa -- Montreal 25 July, 1968" link_text="Letter to Harivilasa -- Montreal 25 July, 1968"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Harivilasa -- Montreal 25 July, 1968|Letter to Harivilasa -- Montreal 25 July, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Unless you fix up your mind to serve your Spiritual Master, Who is direct representative of Krishna, it is not possible to approach Krishna. Krishna is approached through the transparent via media, of Spiritual Master. Anyway, the letter which you sent me 3 weeks prior was duly received by me and I have duly replied them point to point, and if you have not received that letter, I am enclosing a true copy of the reply which will clear all the points raised by you. Regarding the Murtis, the letter will explain.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoKirtananandaSeattle22September1968_7" class="quote" parent="1968_Correspondence" book="Let" index="324" link="Letter to Kirtanananda -- Seattle 22 September, 1968" link_text="Letter to Kirtanananda -- Seattle 22 September, 1968"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Kirtanananda -- Seattle 22 September, 1968|Letter to Kirtanananda -- Seattle 22 September, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So everything is possible provided one is serious. In the Srimad-Bhagavatam it is stated that if somebody is not too much addicted, neither he is completely powerful to give up some bad habits, this via media stage is favorable. Immediately if he cannot give up the medicine as he is taking, that doesn't matter. Let him chant HARE KRISHNA very seriously and he will gradually be able to give up everything.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoMadhusudanaLosAngeles20November1968_8" class="quote" parent="1968_Correspondence" book="Let" index="434" link="Letter to Madhusudana -- Los Angeles 20 November, 1968" link_text="Letter to Madhusudana -- Los Angeles 20 November, 1968"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Madhusudana -- Los Angeles 20 November, 1968|Letter to Madhusudana -- Los Angeles 20 November, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">These things are conducted in terms of place, audience, time, etc. In the Caitanya Caritamrta it is said that the activities of the Vaisnava cannot be understood even by the greatest scholar. So we have to understand everything through the transparent via media of the Spiritual Master. So there is no doubt about it that Srila Bhaktivinode Thakura is eternal energy of Lord Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu. And whatever he did, was just to suit the time, place, circumstances, and etc. There is no contradiction in his activities. Yes, also, what you have learned about Sukadeva is correct.</p> | |||
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<div id="1969_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Correspondence" text="1969 Correspondence"><h3>1969 Correspondence</h3> | |||
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<div id="LettertoDayanandaAllstonMass1May1969_0" class="quote" parent="1969_Correspondence" book="Let" index="262" link="Letter to Dayananda -- Allston, Mass 1 May, 1969" link_text="Letter to Dayananda -- Allston, Mass 1 May, 1969"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Dayananda -- Allston, Mass 1 May, 1969|Letter to Dayananda -- Allston, Mass 1 May, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So whatever I demand from you, it is for Krishna's sake. Personally I am humble servant of Krishna as you are also, but I am deputed to accept your service just to transfer it to Krishna as via media. I shall try to do this service to you and Krishna throughout my life, and I am so proud to have such assistants as you are to help me in my mission to push on the Krishna Consciousness Movement. I do not know why I am attached to your country, but I strongly believe that if the American boys and girls would accept this philosophy, it would render the greatest service to the rest of the world. In Los Angeles, the situation is improving, and when you reach there it will be further accelerated.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoVisalaWestVirginia16June1969_1" class="quote" parent="1969_Correspondence" book="Let" index="367" link="Letter to Visala -- West Virginia 16 June, 1969" link_text="Letter to Visala -- West Virginia 16 June, 1969"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Visala -- West Virginia 16 June, 1969|Letter to Visala -- West Virginia 16 June, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Regarding your first question, what is the difference in full between the Spiritual Master, Krishna, and the devotee? The answer is that Krishna is the source of all energies of the spiritual and material creations, the devotee is the part and parcel servant of Krishna, and the Spiritual Master is the transparent via media for leading the conditioned souls back to home, back to Godhead. All living entities are the servants of Krishna, but the living entities who have fallen into this conditioned life are forgetful of their eternal relationship with the Lord. The role of the bona fide Spiritual Master is to lead the conditioned souls out of forgetfulness and back into pure consciousness of serving the Lord in transcendental loving service.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoYamunacaryaTittenhurst21October1969_2" class="quote" parent="1969_Correspondence" book="Let" index="625" link="Letter to Yamunacarya -- Tittenhurst 21 October, 1969" link_text="Letter to Yamunacarya -- Tittenhurst 21 October, 1969"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Yamunacarya -- Tittenhurst 21 October, 1969|Letter to Yamunacarya -- Tittenhurst 21 October, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">When the Lord appeared on this earth 5,000 years ago, He instructed Bhagavad-gita to Arjuna, and this purely transcendental message of Krishna has been passed down for the past 5,000 years by the media of sincere disciples giving submissive aural reception to the words of Krishna via the medium of the bona fide Spiritual Master. This acts like electricity, and if you touch a wire anywhere which is connected to the powerhouse, then you will be in contact with the electric current.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoHamsadutaLondon7December1969_3" class="quote" parent="1969_Correspondence" book="Let" index="715" link="Letter to Hamsaduta -- London 7 December, 1969" link_text="Letter to Hamsaduta -- London 7 December, 1969"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Hamsaduta -- London 7 December, 1969|Letter to Hamsaduta -- London 7 December, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The idea is that if we have to accept some service, there must be proper remuneration. Otherwise, our free service is open in the temple. Anyone can come and take advantage. Generally in the universities they pay the teachers from $800 to $2,000 per month, so at least they must pay via media not less than $1,000 per month. Anyway, don't bother about it. Go on with your business. But I thought that I required some money for my Book Fund, so I could gather some money in this way. But this will not satisfy my hunger, so forget this incident.</p> | |||
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<div id="1970_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="5" parent="Correspondence" text="1970 Correspondence"><h3>1970 Correspondence</h3> | |||
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<div id="LettertoMadhudvisaLosAngeles14February1970_0" class="quote" parent="1970_Correspondence" book="Let" index="94" link="Letter to Madhudvisa -- Los Angeles 14 February, 1970" link_text="Letter to Madhudvisa -- Los Angeles 14 February, 1970"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Madhudvisa -- Los Angeles 14 February, 1970|Letter to Madhudvisa -- Los Angeles 14 February, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">In regard to praying to Lord Nityananda Prabhu I have written to you in my last letter that such prayer is quite appropriate. Our only prayer should be in the matter of desiring further development of devotional service and such sincere prayer should be submitted not directly to the lord but through the via-media of His bona fide servitor or representative.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoBalimardanaLosAngeles15July1970_1" class="quote" parent="1970_Correspondence" book="Let" index="425" link="Letter to Bali-mardana -- Los Angeles 15 July, 1970" link_text="Letter to Bali-mardana -- Los Angeles 15 July, 1970"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Bali-mardana -- Los Angeles 15 July, 1970|Letter to Bali-mardana -- Los Angeles 15 July, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">None of the activities are personal affairs. It comes only through the proper channel, otherwise each and every activity is directly connected with Krsna. It is received through the Spiritual Master, but the business is for Krsna as much as an office superintendent is the via media for pleasing the ultimate master.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoHayagrivaCalcutta14September1970_2" class="quote" parent="1970_Correspondence" book="Let" index="513" link="Letter to Hayagriva -- Calcutta 14 September, 1970" link_text="Letter to Hayagriva -- Calcutta 14 September, 1970"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Hayagriva -- Calcutta 14 September, 1970|Letter to Hayagriva -- Calcutta 14 September, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Try to rectify them as far as possible. Isana Das has inquired from Tamala regarding Tirtha Maharaja. I do not know what is the sequence of this inquiry, but it is clear that there is a great clique and the so-called Sannyasis are the via media of spreading contamination in our Society. It is a very sorry plight.</p> | |||
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<div id="1971_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Correspondence" text="1971 Correspondence"><h3>1971 Correspondence</h3> | |||
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<div id="LettertoSonsandDaughtersISKCONCHICAGO7BuryPlaceLondonWC1ENGLAND15thAugust1971_0" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="364" link="Letter to Sons and Daughters, ISKCON CHICAGO -- 7, Bury Place London, W.C.1 ENGLAND 15th August, 1971" link_text="Letter to Sons and Daughters, ISKCON CHICAGO -- 7, Bury Place London, W.C.1 ENGLAND 15th August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Sons and Daughters, ISKCON CHICAGO -- 7, Bury Place London, W.C.1 ENGLAND 15th August, 1971|Letter to Sons and Daughters, ISKCON CHICAGO -- 7, Bury Place London, W.C.1 ENGLAND 15th August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">My Dear Sons and Daughters,</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu coming down by disciplic succession to my guru Maharaj. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them on behalf of my Guru Maharaj, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Goswami Maharaj Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoMahamsaKsudhiRsiKumaraNandakumaraTustaKrsnaKrsnaTulasiGurukrpaMadhudvisaothersLondon15August1971_1" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="365" link="Letter to Mahamsa, Ksudhi, Rsi Kumara, Nandakumara, Tusta Krsna, Krsna Tulasi, Gurukrpa, Madhudvisa, others -- London 15 August, 1971" link_text="Letter to Mahamsa, Ksudhi, Rsi Kumara, Nandakumara, Tusta Krsna, Krsna Tulasi, Gurukrpa, Madhudvisa, others -- London 15 August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Mahamsa, Ksudhi, Rsi Kumara, Nandakumara, Tusta Krsna, Krsna Tulasi, Gurukrpa, Madhudvisa, others -- London 15 August, 1971|Letter to Mahamsa, Ksudhi, Rsi Kumara, Nandakumara, Tusta Krsna, Krsna Tulasi, Gurukrpa, Madhudvisa, others -- London 15 August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">My Dear Mahamsa, Ksudhi, Rsi Kumar, Nanda Kumar, Tusta Krishna, Krsna Tulasi, Gurukrpa, Madhudvisa Swami, etc.</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble self and service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them on behalf of my Guru Maharaja His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoDamodaraPatitaPavanaMichaelTomEmilyTosanaRosetMrganetriGulabPatrickothersLondon15August1971_2" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="366" link="Letter to Damodara, Patita Pavana, Michael, Tom, Emily, Tosana, Roset, Mrganetri, Gulab, Patrick, others -- London 15 August, 1971" link_text="Letter to Damodara, Patita Pavana, Michael, Tom, Emily, Tosana, Roset, Mrganetri, Gulab, Patrick, others -- London 15 August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Damodara, Patita Pavana, Michael, Tom, Emily, Tosana, Roset, Mrganetri, Gulab, Patrick, others -- London 15 August, 1971|Letter to Damodara, Patita Pavana, Michael, Tom, Emily, Tosana, Roset, Mrganetri, Gulab, Patrick, others -- London 15 August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">My Dear Damodara, Patita Pavana, Michael, Tom, Emily, Tosan, Roset, Mrganetridevi, Gulab, Patrick, etc.</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoISKCONAmsterdam7BuryPlaceLondonWC1ENGLAND15thAugust1971_3" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="367" link="Letter to ISKCON Amsterdam -- 7, Bury Place London, W.C.1 ENGLAND 15th August, 1971" link_text="Letter to ISKCON Amsterdam -- 7, Bury Place London, W.C.1 ENGLAND 15th August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to ISKCON Amsterdam -- 7, Bury Place London, W.C.1 ENGLAND 15th August, 1971|Letter to ISKCON Amsterdam -- 7, Bury Place London, W.C.1 ENGLAND 15th August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">TO ISKCON AMSTERDAM:</p> | |||
<p>My Dear Bala Gopala, Robert, Douglas, David, Jan, Jean, Vivienne, Thop, Madhavi Lata, Robert, Vivienne Dich, Robert Taylor, May, Dhananjaya, Geraldine, etc.</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaj. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaj, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Goswami Maharaj Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoISKCONBoulderKurusresthaDennisBruceNancyEliciaPournamasiMarkMichaelVincentTulsidasaothersLondon15August1971_4" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="369" link="Letter to ISKCON Boulder, Kurusrestha, Dennis, Bruce, Nancy, Elicia, Pournamasi, Mark, Michael, Vincent, Tulsidasa, others -- London 15 August, 1971" link_text="Letter to ISKCON Boulder, Kurusrestha, Dennis, Bruce, Nancy, Elicia, Pournamasi, Mark, Michael, Vincent, Tulsidasa, others -- London 15 August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to ISKCON Boulder, Kurusrestha, Dennis, Bruce, Nancy, Elicia, Pournamasi, Mark, Michael, Vincent, Tulsidasa, others -- London 15 August, 1971|Letter to ISKCON Boulder, Kurusrestha, Dennis, Bruce, Nancy, Elicia, Pournamasi, Mark, Michael, Vincent, Tulsidasa, others -- London 15 August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">TO ISKCON BOULDER</p> | |||
<p>My Dear Kurusrestha, Dennis, Bruce, Nancy, Elicia, Pournamasi, Mark, Michael, Vincent, Tulsidasa, etc.</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoISKCONSanDiegoBhaktadasaSuryaRajiblocanAniruddhaParatrikanandaNorahAnnapurnaMarneyNrsimhaCaitanyaMarybelleothersLondon15August1971_5" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="371" link="Letter to ISKCON San Diego, Bhakta dasa, Surya, Rajiblocan, Aniruddha, Paratrikananda, Norah, Annapurna, Marney, Nrsimha Caitanya, Marybelle, others -- London 15 August, 1971" link_text="Letter to ISKCON San Diego, Bhakta dasa, Surya, Rajiblocan, Aniruddha, Paratrikananda, Norah, Annapurna, Marney, Nrsimha Caitanya, Marybelle, others -- London 15 August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to ISKCON San Diego, Bhakta dasa, Surya, Rajiblocan, Aniruddha, Paratrikananda, Norah, Annapurna, Marney, Nrsimha Caitanya, Marybelle, others -- London 15 August, 1971|Letter to ISKCON San Diego, Bhakta dasa, Surya, Rajiblocan, Aniruddha, Paratrikananda, Norah, Annapurna, Marney, Nrsimha Caitanya, Marybelle, others -- London 15 August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">My Dear Bhakta das, Surya, Rajiblocan, Aniruddha, Paratrikananda, Norah, Annapurna, Marney, Nrsimha Caitanya, Marybelle, etc.</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoISKCONPortlandDanavirTrilochanaVisnuKamsariKamalaTraidasPramadaothersLondon15August1971_6" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="372" link="Letter to ISKCON Portland, Danavir, Trilochana, Visnu, Kamsari, Kamala, Traidas, Pramada, others -- London 15 August, 1971" link_text="Letter to ISKCON Portland, Danavir, Trilochana, Visnu, Kamsari, Kamala, Traidas, Pramada, others -- London 15 August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to ISKCON Portland, Danavir, Trilochana, Visnu, Kamsari, Kamala, Traidas, Pramada, others -- London 15 August, 1971|Letter to ISKCON Portland, Danavir, Trilochana, Visnu, Kamsari, Kamala, Traidas, Pramada, others -- London 15 August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">My Dear Danavir, Trilochana, Visnu das, Kamsari, Kamala, Traidas, Pramada, etc.</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoISKCONMalaysiaHanumanNooothersLondon15August1971_7" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="373" link="Letter to ISKCON Malaysia, Hanuman, Noo, others -- London 15 August, 1971" link_text="Letter to ISKCON Malaysia, Hanuman, Noo, others -- London 15 August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to ISKCON Malaysia, Hanuman, Noo, others -- London 15 August, 1971|Letter to ISKCON Malaysia, Hanuman, Noo, others -- London 15 August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">My Dear Hanuman, Noo, etc.</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoISKCONHamburgMandaliBhadraGunnarRolfAndreHarrisonPhillipHaripriyaAntonioMariaPhilipHerbertLilasaktiJyotirmayiothersLondon15August1971_8" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="374" link="Letter to ISKCON Hamburg, Mandali Bhadra, Gunnar, Rolf, Andre, Harrison, Phillip, Haripriya, Antonio, Maria, Philip, Herbert, Lilasakti, Jyotirmayi, others -- London 15 August, 1971" link_text="Letter to ISKCON Hamburg, Mandali Bhadra, Gunnar, Rolf, Andre, Harrison, Phillip, Haripriya, Antonio, Maria, Philip, Herbert, Lilasakti, Jyotirmayi, others -- London 15 August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to ISKCON Hamburg, Mandali Bhadra, Gunnar, Rolf, Andre, Harrison, Phillip, Haripriya, Antonio, Maria, Philip, Herbert, Lilasakti, Jyotirmayi, others -- London 15 August, 1971|Letter to ISKCON Hamburg, Mandali Bhadra, Gunnar, Rolf, Andre, Harrison, Phillip, Haripriya, Antonio, Maria, Philip, Herbert, Lilasakti, Jyotirmayi, others -- London 15 August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">My Dear Mandali Bhadra, Gunnar, Rolf, Andre, Harrison, Phillip, Haripriya, Antonio, Maria, Philip, Herbert, Lilasakti, Jyotirmayi, etc.</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoISKCONOceanCityNandakisoraJahnavaBobbieSteveJaneothersLondon15August1971_9" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="376" link="Letter to ISKCON Ocean City, Nandakisora, Jahnava, Bobbie, Steve, Jane, others -- London 15 August, 1971" link_text="Letter to ISKCON Ocean City, Nandakisora, Jahnava, Bobbie, Steve, Jane, others -- London 15 August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to ISKCON Ocean City, Nandakisora, Jahnava, Bobbie, Steve, Jane, others -- London 15 August, 1971|Letter to ISKCON Ocean City, Nandakisora, Jahnava, Bobbie, Steve, Jane, others -- London 15 August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">My Dear Nandakisora, Jahnava, Bobbie, Steve, Jane, etc.</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoISKCONNewOrleansNityanandaJosephDebraKanyaKumariAubreyMichaelSusanothersLondon15August1971_10" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="377" link="Letter to ISKCON New Orleans, Nityananda, Joseph, Debra, Kanya Kumari, Aubrey, Michael, Susan, others -- London 15 August, 1971" link_text="Letter to ISKCON New Orleans, Nityananda, Joseph, Debra, Kanya Kumari, Aubrey, Michael, Susan, others -- London 15 August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to ISKCON New Orleans, Nityananda, Joseph, Debra, Kanya Kumari, Aubrey, Michael, Susan, others -- London 15 August, 1971|Letter to ISKCON New Orleans, Nityananda, Joseph, Debra, Kanya Kumari, Aubrey, Michael, Susan, others -- London 15 August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">My Dear Nityananda, Joseph, Debra, Kanya Kumari, Aubrey, Michael, Susan, etc.</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoISKCONLagunaBeachRsabhadevaSivaniIndumatiKalyanaiKapiladevRichardSuruciTajhDruDavidVaidyanathaothersLondon15August1971_11" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="378" link="Letter to ISKCON Laguna Beach, Rsabhadeva, Sivani, Indumati, Kalyanai, Kapiladev, Richard, Suruci, Tajh, Dru, David, Vaidyanatha, others -- London 15 August, 1971" link_text="Letter to ISKCON Laguna Beach, Rsabhadeva, Sivani, Indumati, Kalyanai, Kapiladev, Richard, Suruci, Tajh, Dru, David, Vaidyanatha, others -- London 15 August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to ISKCON Laguna Beach, Rsabhadeva, Sivani, Indumati, Kalyanai, Kapiladev, Richard, Suruci, Tajh, Dru, David, Vaidyanatha, others -- London 15 August, 1971|Letter to ISKCON Laguna Beach, Rsabhadeva, Sivani, Indumati, Kalyanai, Kapiladev, Richard, Suruci, Tajh, Dru, David, Vaidyanatha, others -- London 15 August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">My Dear Rsabhadeva, Sivani devi, Indumati, Kalyanai, Kapiladev, Richard, Suruchi, Tajh, Dru, David, Vaidyanath, etc.</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoISKCONBostonSatsvarupaAudryRosemaryCarolCarolannieThomasLarryJillJamesBarbaraRogerDonnaPaulMartinVictorNancyJodyJosephHarerNamaothersLondon15August1971_12" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="379" link="Letter to ISKCON Boston, Satsvarupa, Audry, Rosemary, Carol, Carolannie, Thomas, Larry, Jill, James, Barbara, Roger, Donna, Paul, Martin, Victor, Nancy, Jody, Joseph, Harer Nama, others -- London 15 August, 1971" link_text="Letter to ISKCON Boston, Satsvarupa, Audry, Rosemary, Carol, Carolannie, Thomas, Larry, Jill, James, Barbara, Roger, Donna, Paul, Martin, Victor, Nancy, Jody, Joseph, Harer Nama, others -- London 15 August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to ISKCON Boston, Satsvarupa, Audry, Rosemary, Carol, Carolannie, Thomas, Larry, Jill, James, Barbara, Roger, Donna, Paul, Martin, Victor, Nancy, Jody, Joseph, Harer Nama, others -- London 15 August, 1971|Letter to ISKCON Boston, Satsvarupa, Audry, Rosemary, Carol, Carolannie, Thomas, Larry, Jill, James, Barbara, Roger, Donna, Paul, Martin, Victor, Nancy, Jody, Joseph, Harer Nama, others -- London 15 August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">My Dear Satsvarupa, Audry, Rosemary, Carol, Carolannie, Thomas, Larry, Jill, James, Barbara, Roger, Donna, Paul, Martin, Victor, Nancy, Jody, Joseph, Harer Nama, etc.</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoISKCONTucsonSonsandDaughtersLondon15August1971_13" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="380" link="Letter to ISKCON Tucson, Sons and Daughters -- London 15 August, 1971" link_text="Letter to ISKCON Tucson, Sons and Daughters -- London 15 August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to ISKCON Tucson, Sons and Daughters -- London 15 August, 1971|Letter to ISKCON Tucson, Sons and Daughters -- London 15 August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">My Dear Sons and Daughters,</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoISKCONClevelandSriGovindaSrilekhaLeonWoodyDebbieothersLondon15August1971_14" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="383" link="Letter to ISKCON Cleveland, Sri Govinda, Srilekha, Leon, Woody, Debbie, others -- London 15 August, 1971" link_text="Letter to ISKCON Cleveland, Sri Govinda, Srilekha, Leon, Woody, Debbie, others -- London 15 August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to ISKCON Cleveland, Sri Govinda, Srilekha, Leon, Woody, Debbie, others -- London 15 August, 1971|Letter to ISKCON Cleveland, Sri Govinda, Srilekha, Leon, Woody, Debbie, others -- London 15 August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">My Dear Sri Govinda Das, Srilekha, Leon, Woody, Debbie, etc.</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoISKCONPittsburghTrivikramaBibhuKatyayaniothersLondon15August1971_15" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="384" link="Letter to ISKCON Pittsburgh, Trivikrama, Bibhu, Katyayani, others -- London 15 August, 1971" link_text="Letter to ISKCON Pittsburgh, Trivikrama, Bibhu, Katyayani, others -- London 15 August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to ISKCON Pittsburgh, Trivikrama, Bibhu, Katyayani, others -- London 15 August, 1971|Letter to ISKCON Pittsburgh, Trivikrama, Bibhu, Katyayani, others -- London 15 August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">My Dear Trivikrama Swami, Bibhu, Katyayani, etc.</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoISKCONStLouisVamanadevaSharonBadarinarayanaJudyPamelaJohnNancyCathyStuartEugeneMichaelJayneRichardMahamayaBarryBaladevaIndiraJagannathaothersLondon15August1971_16" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="385" link="Letter to ISKCON St. Louis, Vamanadeva, Sharon, Badarinarayana, Judy, Pamela, John, Nancy, Cathy, Stuart, Eugene, Michael, Jayne, Richard, Mahamaya, Barry, Baladeva, Indira, Jagannatha, others -- London 15 August, 1971" link_text="Letter to ISKCON St. Louis, Vamanadeva, Sharon, Badarinarayana, Judy, Pamela, John, Nancy, Cathy, Stuart, Eugene, Michael, Jayne, Richard, Mahamaya, Barry, Baladeva, Indira, Jagannatha, others -- London 15 August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to ISKCON St. Louis, Vamanadeva, Sharon, Badarinarayana, Judy, Pamela, John, Nancy, Cathy, Stuart, Eugene, Michael, Jayne, Richard, Mahamaya, Barry, Baladeva, Indira, Jagannatha, others -- London 15 August, 1971|Letter to ISKCON St. Louis, Vamanadeva, Sharon, Badarinarayana, Judy, Pamela, John, Nancy, Cathy, Stuart, Eugene, Michael, Jayne, Richard, Mahamaya, Barry, Baladeva, Indira, Jagannatha, others -- London 15 August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">My Dear Vamanadeva, Sharon, Badrinarayana, Judy, Pamela, John, Nancy, Cathy, Stuart, Eugene, Michael, Jayne, Richard, Mahamaya, Barry, Baladeva., Indira, Jagannatha, etc.</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoISKCONTrinidadVaikunthanathaSaradiaLondon15August1971_17" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="386" link="Letter to ISKCON Trinidad, Vaikunthanatha, Saradia -- London 15 August, 1971" link_text="Letter to ISKCON Trinidad, Vaikunthanatha, Saradia -- London 15 August, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to ISKCON Trinidad, Vaikunthanatha, Saradia -- London 15 August, 1971|Letter to ISKCON Trinidad, Vaikunthanatha, Saradia -- London 15 August, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">My Dear Vaikunthanatha and Saradia,</p> | |||
<p>Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.</p> | |||
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<div id="1972_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Correspondence" text="1972 Correspondence"><h3>1972 Correspondence</h3> | |||
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<div id="LettertoGirirajaTokyo23April1972_0" class="quote" parent="1972_Correspondence" book="Let" index="193" link="Letter to Giriraja -- Tokyo 23 April, 1972" link_text="Letter to Giriraja -- Tokyo 23 April, 1972"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Giriraja -- Tokyo 23 April, 1972|Letter to Giriraja -- Tokyo 23 April, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This will attract the general public and there will never be any shortage of food-stuffs, so continue regularly. In Bombay there are many generous persons who like food distribution programs, and actually, our temple should be the via media for feeding the poor with food and spiritual knowledge. Our Bombay program should be based on giving Krishna consciousness through the English medium and distribution of prasadam without any discrimination. This will enhance our prestige and will accelerate our spiritual life as well.</p> | |||
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Sri Caitanya-caritamrta
CC Madhya-lila
“"Alas, before We met there was an initial attachment between Us brought about by an exchange of glances. In this way attachment evolved. That attachment has gradually grown, and there is no limit to it. Now that attachment has become a natural sequence between Ourselves. It is not that it is due to Kṛṣṇa, the enjoyer, nor is it due to Me, for I am the enjoyed. It is not like that. This attachment was made possible by mutual meeting. This mutual exchange of attraction is known as manobhava, or Cupid. Kṛṣṇa"s mind and My mind have merged together. Now, during this time of separation, it is very difficult to explain these loving affairs. My dear friend, though Kṛṣṇa might have forgotten all these things, you can understand and bring this message to Him. But during Our first meeting there was no messenger between Us, nor did I request anyone to see Him. Indeed, Cupid's five arrows were Our via media. Now, during this separation, that attraction has increased to another ecstatic state. My dear friend, please act as a messenger on My behalf, because if one is in love with a beautiful person, this is the consequence.’
Thus there is a spiritual nature beyond this material world, and that spiritual nature exists eternally. Spiritual advancement means stopping material activities and entering into spiritual activities. This is the process of bhakti-yoga. In the material world, the via media for sense gratification is mainly a woman. One who is seriously interested in spiritual life should strictly avoid women. A sannyāsī should never see a man or a woman for material benefit. In addition, talks with materialistic men and women are also dangerous, and they are compared to drinking poison. Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu was very strict on this point. He therefore refused to see King Pratāparudra, who was naturally always engaged in political and economic affairs. The Lord even refused to see the King despite the request of a personality like Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya, who was the Lord's intimate friend and devotee.
Lectures
Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures
To go back to Godhead means you don't get this material body. So long you get this material body, you have to change. That is the material nature. Anything which is material, it has got a date of birth and it has got a date of annihilation. And in the via media there is growth, their existence. So this body, not only this body, even this material world, it has got a date or creation, and it will be annihilated. This is explained in the Bhagavad-gītā. Bhūtvā bhūtvā pralīyate (BG 8.19). It comes into manifestation once, and again it is destroyed. This is material existence. When you go back to home, back to Godhead, you haven't got to accept this material body. Your spiritual body is already there within this material body. And in that spiritual body you shall exist along with God. That is the highest perfection of life.
So the body was not existing before. And it will not exist after death. So in the via media, if the manifestation of body is there, so why it should be the object of lamentation? In this way, Kṛṣṇa is trying to convince Arjuna that he should act as kṣatriya and perform his duty. A kṣatriya is profited, either dead or alive. That will be explained.
So because it is duty, it is ordained by the śāstras, therefore they are not ordinary killing. Avyakta-nidhanāny eva tatra kā pari... "It was nonmanifested before, and it will become nonmanifested again. So why should you lament for the via media?"
So it is not very astonishing. Because the whole world is being conducted, the whole material nature is being conducted by the three guṇas, and anyone associating with a particular type of guṇa, he must suffer or enjoy according to that guṇas. Jaghanya-guṇa-vṛtti-sthā adho gacchanti tāmasāḥ. Tāmasa, they, those who are in the tāmasika-guṇa, they go adhaḥ. Madhye tiṣṭhanti rājasāḥ. And via media, those who are in touch with the rajo-guṇa. And ūrdhvaṁ gacchanti sattva-sthāḥ: (BG 14.18) those who are in the goodness, they go up, in the upper platform of the society or in the universe.
That is your credit. When you are fighting with the enemies, if you become compassionate, "How shall I kill?" that is cowardice. Therefore Kṛṣṇa concludes here: hato vā prāpsyasi svargaṁ jitvā vā bhokṣyase mahīm. There are two alternatives. For a fighter, for a kṣatriya, to fight in the battle, either gain victory or die. No via media. Fight to the last point if you are able, then become victorious. Or die. No stoppage. All this fighting were meant like that. According to the Vedic culture, the kṣatriyas... Not the brāhmaṇas.
Naturally fallen from higher to lower. Then you make progress, again come to this human being. This is a via media with good consciousness. If you utilize your good consciousness then you go still higher, you go to God. But if you don't use your higher consciousness then again go to down. This is going on, cycle of birth and death.
Any religion where God is the target, that is applied in bhakti. But when there is no God or impersonalism, there is no question of bhakti-yoga. Bhakti-yoga means bhaja jayukti bhaja-sevayā(?). Service. Service means three things: the servitor, the served, and service. One must be present who will accept service. And one must be present to render service. And in the via media, the process of service. So bhakti-yoga means service. If there is nobody to accept the service, then where is the bhakti-yoga? So any philosophy or religious principle where there is no acceptance of God, the Supreme, there is no application of bhakti.
Just like we cannot see without the sunrise. Still, we are very much proud of seeing. We say, "Can you show me God?" Well, can you see God? You cannot see without sunshine, and still, you are so much proud of your eyes. That is called adhama. He has no knowledge; still, he's taking Ph.D. degree and getting Nobel Prize. This is going on. So Kṛṣṇa is the Puruṣottama, uttama-puruṣa. The madhyama-puruṣa is the Supersoul. Via media between Kṛṣṇa and we. We are adhama-puruṣa. So Kṛṣṇa is addressed as uttama-puruṣa, "the best of all puruṣas, or enjoyers." Adhibhūtam, the matter, five elements of matter. Kiṁ proktam. Which of them are called the Brahman, ātmā.
Similarly, there are persons who are via media—half this side, half that side. And there are persons who are fully in Bombay life. Or Bombay... Any city life. We don't speak only Bombay. Suppose we are in London. We are wandering, traveling in many, many nice cities better than Bombay. What is Bombay? Bombay is nothing in comparison to New York or Chicago or Tokyo. Very, very big, big cities.
Prabhupāda: Authority is your spiritual master. You do not know who is authority? Why this question is there? If one is initiated, then he accepted the authority. And if he does not follow the instruction of spiritual master, he is a rascal. He is defying the authority. That's all.
Sudāmā: The question also is there: the authority is the spiritual master, but the via media to the spiritual master... The difference between, like we were discussing in the automobile of śikṣā and dīkṣā-guru.
Prabhupāda: Then so śikṣā and dīkṣā-guru... A śikṣā-guru who instructs against the instruction of spiritual, he is not a śikṣā guru. He is a demon. Śikṣā-guru, dīkṣā-guru means... Sometimes a dīkṣā-guru is not present always. Therefore one can take learning, instruction, from an advanced devotee. That is called the śikṣā-guru. Śikṣā-guru does not mean he is speaking something against the teachings of the dīkṣā-guru. He is not a śikṣā-guru. He is a rascal.
Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures
At the present moment, on account of our material contamination, our mind is contaminated with so many material things. If you purify your mind, then you come to the spiritual platform. That is intelligence, via media between the spirit and the mind. First of all body, finer than the body is mind. Then finer than the mind is the intelligence. And finer than the intelligence is the soul.
Others are trying to make them śūdras. Śūdras means to remain in ignorance, and brāhmaṇa means to remain in knowledge. That is the difference between brāhmaṇa and śūdra. And these two other classes, via media, kṣatriya and vaiśya. The brāhmaṇas are supposed to be the first-class men in the society. The kṣatriyas, the second class, the vaiśyas, the third class, and the remaining, all fourth class and fifth class.
Therefore it has said, jñāna-vairāgya-yuktayā. Then you have to become vairāgī to your puffed up consciousness that "I am master, I am God, I am this, I am that." No. That is called jñāna and vairāgya. Jñāna-vairāgya-yuktayā. And again it is confirmed, bhaktyā. As soon as the bhakti word is used, there is no question of becoming master. Bhakti is used via media between Bhagavān and bhakta. The dealings of Bhagavān and bhakta is called bhakti. Bhakti, bhaja-dhātu. Bhaja-dhātu sevāyām. Sevāyām. Sevā mean there is a sevaka and there is a master, sevya, one who is worshiped and one who serves.
So all these informations are there. Simply we have to know. Unfortunately, because we are too much materially absorbed, we cannot understand. We cannot understand. Neither we are very much interested to know. So vāsudeva-kathā-ruciḥ. There is no ruci because they are conditioned by the material nature, by the three modes of material nature: sattva-guṇa, rajo-guṇa... Tamo-guṇa is the lowest, rajo-guṇa is the via media, and one who is the sattva-guṇa, he can understand. Therefore the whole Vedic civilization is meant for making people brāhmaṇa. Not to keep him in ignorance, not to keep him in the position of a śūdra. The whole Vedic scheme is that from the lowest grade of li..., existence, one can be elevated to the highest grade.
So here it is said, sthity-ādaye hari-viriñci-hareti saṁjñāḥ. This, the same Lord, Supreme Personality of Godhead, Viṣṇu, has expanded Himself as Lord Śiva and Lord Brahmā. We are also expansions. Brahmā is also jīva-tattva. He's also like us, jīva-tattva. Lord Śiva is between viṣṇu-tattva and jīva-tattva. And Lord Viṣṇu is viṣṇu-tattva. Viṣṇu-tattva, via media, and jīva-tattva. So they are all expansions of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So for controlling these three guṇas they have taken charge. Viṣṇu is in charge of sattva-guṇa, and Brahmā is in charge of rajo-guṇa and Lord Śiva is in charge of tamo-guṇa.
One who is under the material energy, they are entangled with these three guṇas: sattva-guṇa, rajo-guṇa, tamo-guṇa. The lowest is the tamo-guṇa, and via media is the rajo-guṇa, and the topmost, goodness, is sattva-guṇa. So even in sattva-guṇa, that is also entanglement. Rajo-guṇa, tamo-guṇa is certainly entanglement, but even rajo-guṇa, even one is situated in the sattva-guṇa... Sattva-guṇa means perfect brāhmaṇa.
And uttama means high grade. Uttama and adhama. And madhyama. Madhyama means via-media. There are three grades in everything, first class, second class, third class. So this class of students, adhama, who are not interested to understand God or Kṛṣṇa, they are third-class student. Adhama-paḍuyā. Caitanya Mahāprabhu was explaining during His instruction, Kṛṣṇa. But the adhama-paḍuyā did not like it.
So devotee hasn't got any personal decision. That is the process of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Evaṁ paramparā-prāptam imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ (BG 4.2). We should decide by the order of Kṛṣṇa through the disciplic succession, via media, the spiritual master. That is required. A devotee cannot decide personally. If Kṛṣṇa desires... If somebody says that "We cannot see Kṛṣṇa personally," then you have to decide by Kṛṣṇa's representative. If your spiritual master, guru, says that "You do this," that is Kṛṣṇa's order. That is Kṛṣṇa's order.
So sādhu is representative of Kṛṣṇa. Or Kṛṣṇa directly... Sādhu will never say that "You serve me." Sādhu will say, "Serve Kṛṣṇa." Therefore we have to approach Kṛṣṇa through sādhu. Not directly. That is not... That is confirmed by Vaiṣṇava ācārya, Narottama dāsa: chāḍiyā vaiṣṇava-sevā nistāra pāyeche kebā. You cannot directly approach Kṛṣṇa. You have to go through the media, the transparent via media of his representative.
Guru is very confidential servant of Kṛṣṇa. Why confidential servant? Because he is canvassing door to door, "Please become Kṛṣṇa conscious. Please surrender to Kṛṣṇa." Kṛṣṇa says to Arjuna, sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja (BG 18.66), and guru takes that very mission, but does not say like Kṛṣṇa, that "Your surrender to me." He says, "Surrender to Kṛṣṇa." One has to surrender to Kṛṣṇa through the via media of guru, directly. This is the process. Therefore guru accepts respects from the disciple not for his personal self, but conveying the respect to Kṛṣṇa. This is the process. Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādo yasyāprasādān na gatiḥ kuto 'pi **. If you cannot get the mercy of guru, then it is very difficult to approach Kṛṣṇa. We cannot approach Kṛṣṇa directly.
We should understand this relationship. The material nature has got relationship with both God and the living entities, but the activities of the two living entities, namely the aṇu and vibhu... God is Vibhu or Prabhu, and living entity is aṇu or servant, and the via media is the material nature. So we cannot control material nature. That is not possible. We are controlled. We are being controlled. Tribhir guṇamayair bhāvair mohitam, nābhijānāti mām ebhyaḥ param avyayam (BG 7.13). We are always being controlled. And... But the prakṛti, material nature, is being controlled by the Supreme Lord.
So saṅkhyāta, saṅkhyāyati iti sāṅkhya. This is Sāṅkhya philosophy, to know analytical study of the whole cosmic manifestation. That is called Sāṅkhya philosophy. It is physical. And the kāla is via media. And then the soul and the Supersoul. So if we understand thoroughly this analytical study of the whole thing, then we know Sāṅkhya philosophy, saṅkhyāta, Sāṅkhya, in its numerical count.
So these demigods or even we... We are also the same principle, the living entities. Brahmā is also in the category of living entities, and Lord Śiva is between the living entities and the Supreme Lord, in between. Therefore you cannot keep Lord Śiva as living entity category, neither Viṣṇu category. Via media. Kṣīraṁ yathā dadhi vikāra-viśeṣa-yogāt (Bs. 5.45). The Supreme Personality of Godhead does not come directly in touch with this prakṛti, but the form by which He touches this prakṛti, that is Lord Śiva.
So kāla, time factor, is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. It is above these twenty-four ingredients of material elements. It is in between the spiritual element and the material element, via media, that kāla. This is the description of kāla.
Buddhayo 'vyavasāyinām. Vyavasāyātmikā, niścayātmikā. "Now, my life will be successful when I accept very seriously the instruction given by Kṛṣṇa and it is delivered to me through the transparent via media of guru. Then it will be successful." Ār nā koriho mane āśā.
So that is to be cleansed. The via media impediment has to be cleansed. That is called ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam (CC Antya 20.12). By chanting this transcendental vibration, your heart will be cleansed. Puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ (SB 1.2.17). The more you chant and hear, śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ, then it becomes pious activities.
So how one is intelligent, how one is dull, how one is via media—that is due to these three guṇas: sattva-guṇa, rajo-guṇa, tamo-guṇa. If one is intelligent, that is one of the qualification of sattva-guṇa. Jñānaṁ vijñānam āstikyam. The brahminical qualification... Satyaḥ śamo damo titikṣa arjavam eva ca, jñānam vijñānam āstikyam brahma-karma svabhāva-jam (BG 18.42). In the society, human society, there must be a class of brāhmaṇa, intelligent class.
So everything should be seen through the śāstra. Śāstra-cakṣuṣāt. This is Vedic process. In the śāstra it is said that ūrdhvaṁ gacchanti sattva-sthāḥ: (BG 14.18) elevation in this material world is when a person is in the sattva-guṇa, the modes of goodness. And middle, via media, is rajo-guṇa. Madhye tiṣṭhanti rājasāḥ. And jaghanya-guṇa-vṛtti-sthā adho gacchanti tāmasāḥ. Those who are very, very low class, jaghanya-vṛtti, their behavior is very, very abominable, they go down, adho gacchanti.
Similarly, those who are in the sattva-guṇa, for them everything is clear, and those who are in the tamo-guṇa, everything is ignorance, and those who are mixed up, neither rajo-guṇa, neither tamo-guṇa, via media, they are called rajo-guṇa. Three guṇas. Tamasā. So they are simply interested in the present body, does not care what is going to happen, and has no knowledge what he was before. There is another place it is described: nūnaṁ pramattaḥ kurute vikarma (SB 5.5.4). Pramattaḥ, just like madman.
So spiritual master is the negotiator. He is the broker. Of course, without any brokerage, but he is supposed to be the broker or the transparent medium. My Guru Mahārāja used to say, "the transparent media, via media." Just like my eyes are not very perfect, so I am using this transparent via media to see, similarly, because we have forgotten our relationship with Kṛṣṇa, or God, so we have to see through the transparent via media of spiritual master. Otherwise it is very difficult. That is the process. That is the process. Therefore Bhāgavata, er, Vedic literature gives you injunction, tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet (MU 1.2.12). Tad-vijñānārtham.
Although our constitutional position is to serve, but artificially we want to give up service and we want to enjoy. That is material disease. So gradually, if we want to enjoy material world, then we require money. Money is the via media for enjoyment of material world. People are working so hard, day and night, just to get money because money is the source or the means of sense enjoyment. That is the disease, sense enjoyment.
So therefore Kṛṣṇa, offering is to Kṛṣṇa through the transparent via media of spiritual master. Because directly I do not know Kṛṣṇa. Directly I do not know how to offer Kṛṣṇa. Therefore my business is to offer it through the agent. Just like if you want to pay something to the government, you have to pay to the treasury, not directly to president. You have to pay through the treasury. Similarly, this is the process of understanding Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
Therefore one has to corroborate these three things: scriptures, and statement of saintly persons, and statement of spiritual master. The spiritual master is via media. The disciple, if he cannot understand the statement of the scriptures or any saintly person, he submits his doubts before the spiritual master and he clears it. In this way we have to make progress.
There are three qualities: sattva-guṇa, rajo-guṇa, tamo-guṇa. So if you develop sattva-guṇa, then your body gradually will be sattva-guṇa-ized. Sattva-guṇa, the goodness... The body will be purified and become good. Good, bad, and via media, three kinds. So that is the process. Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement means everything is being gradually developed into goodness. And at last, to surpass goodness... Here in this material world the goodness may be contaminated with the other qualities, but in the spiritual world it is so good... It is called śuddha-sattva.
Nectar of Devotion Lectures
The process of seeing God... Sevonmukhe hi jihvādau svayam eva sphuraty adhaḥ. Ataḥ śrī-kṛṣṇa-nāmādi na bhaved grāhyam indriyaiḥ (CC Madhya 17.136)]. Just like a person suffering from some disease, his eyesight is blocked. He has got the eyesight to see, but on account of some cataract disease, he cannot see. Similarly God is there, and I can see Him also. But the cataract of illusion is covering via media between God and me.
So rasa-vidhānena, by chemical interaction of sulphur and mercury, if you can add tin and copper, then it becomes gold. You can manufacture gold, provided you know the process, how to mix up copper, tin and mercury. With via media of sulphuric acid. Sulphuric acid is the mother of chemicals. Without sulphur, you cannot make any chemical composition. Therefore all chemical composition are called sulphate, sulphite, like that. So Sanātana Gosvāmī gives this idea of chemical composition. It appears that he knew how to work with chemicals.
Festival Lectures
So the most important chapter of Caitanya's teaching was to Rūpa Gosvāmī and Sanātana Gosvāmī. Teachings of Sanātana Gosvāmī, uh, Rūpa Gosvāmī and Rāmaṇanda Gosvāmī, Rāmānanda Rāya, so they are meant for devotees who are on the second stage. First stage, second stage, and third stage. The first stage is called mahā-bhāgavata, liberated devotee. And the second stage is via media between the lowest stage and liberated stage. And the lowest stage is called prākṛta-bhakta, means persons in material condition gradually being elevated to the supreme position of self-realization.
General Lectures
So they are not in disagreement. What is spoken in the scripture is accepted by saintly person, and what is spoken in the scripture, the spiritual master explains only that thing. That's all. So via media is the scripture. Just like lawyer and the litigants-via media is the lawbook. Similarly, the spiritual master, the scripture... Saintly person means who confirms the Vedic injunction, who accepts. And scripture means what is accepted by the saintly person. And spiritual master means who follows the scriptures. So things equal to the same thing are equal to one another. This is axiomatic truth.
So therefore, our life is always full with sinful activity. So when you surrender to Kṛṣṇa through his transparent via media, not that immediately your sinful activities are stopped, but because you surrendered to the Supreme, He absorbs your sinful activities. He makes you free. But you should be conscious that "I shall not commit any more." Caitanya Mahāprabhu, when He accepted Jagāi-Mādhāi, great sinful brothers, He simply asked them, "You simply promise that 'Henceforward we shall not commit any sinful activities.' Whatever you have done I am taking.
This is the defect of the modern civilization. But actually what Kṛṣṇa is trying to instruct Arjuna... Arjuna means everyone. He's not simply talking with Arjuna. Arjuna is simply via media. He's talking to the whole human society, intelligent class of men, that "We existed, we are existing now, and we shall exist also in the future." This is called sanātana, eternity. So na caiva na bhaviṣyāmaḥ: "In the future we also shall exist." Now we should consider what is the problem now: I was present in the past, I am now present in the present, and I shall exist in the future.
Philosophy Discussions
Prabhupāda: So our position is like that. We have come to this material world to enjoy, giving up the company of God. So God has allowed him, "All right, you enjoy and experience. When you will experience that this material enjoyment is not good, then you will again come back." So He is guiding the enjoyment of the living being, especially of the human being so that he may again come back to home, back to Godhead. And nature is the via media agent, under the instruction of God. So if he (is) too much addicted to misuse the freedom, then he is punished, and that is also according to his desire.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is very nice. Morality means to execute the orders of God. If God is satisfied then it is moral. Otherwise our so-called convention in this material conception of life, "This is good," "This is bad," they are described as mental concoction. We must have clear orders from God, and if we execute it for the satisfaction of God, this means, in other words, morality means the action which satisfies God, the Supreme Lord. That is morality. And if he does not satisfy the Lord, then it is not morality; it is immorality. We therefore sing every day yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādo **, and the orders of God is carried through the representative of God, spiritual master, because directly we have no connection with God. The spiritual master is the transparent via media between God and ourself. In our perfect stage, of course, we can talk with God, but in the beginning, neophyte state, there is no such chance; therefore we have to take instruction from the spiritual master who has got direct connection with God. And if we satisfy the spiritual master, this means we have satisfied God. That is happiness.
Prabhupāda: That I have already explained. Just like child does not know. He simply sees the fan is running-superficially. But he does not know that there is electricity power, and there is a powerhouse. So that is lack of knowledge. Therefore Bhagavad-gītā says, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante (BG 7.19). After many, many births, one comes to the real knowledge, and that is vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti (BG 7.19). Then he knows that Vāsudeva, Kṛṣṇa, is the original (indistinct). It is a question of knowing, and knowing through the direct current via media-guru. Otherwise he remains in darkness. Therefore guru-namastaya. Ajñāna timirāndasya. Everyone is blind by the darkness of ignorance. Jñānāñjana śalākayā. And the guru's business is to lighten ignorance, the śalāka. What is called, śalāka?
Prabhupāda: So generally, His personal expansion for creation of this material world are three also, accepted as Brahmā, Viṣṇu, Maheśvara. Viṣṇu is personal expansion, and Brahmā is expansion of the living entity, or the vibhinnāṁśa. And another expansion, via-media between the personal expansion and expansion of jīva, the via-media expansion is called Śiva. So the material creation is done by personal expansion primarily—the whole material ingredients, and then with the ingredients the guṇa-avatāra, Brahmā, he creates particularly. And Lord Śiva, when the time is right, he annihilates.
Prabhupāda: Literal... Generally, every word in the scripture there is literal meaning, but one who cannot understand properly because one does not hear from the proper person, he makes some interpretation. But there is no need of interpretation in the words of God. It may be that the words of God sometimes cannot be understood by ordinary person; therefore he requires to understand through the via-media of transparent guru. Guru is fully cognizant of the words spoken by God. One has to accept, therefore, a guru to go through the scripture properly. Generally there is no ambiguity in the words of God, but due to our lack of perfect knowledge we sometimes cannot understand and try to interpret. But this is, this interpretation is not at all feasible, because imperfect person interpreting means whatever he interprets, that is imperfect. So the proper import of the words of scripture or words of God should be understood from a person who has realized God.
Conversations and Morning Walks
1971 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: No. He'll not judge. His spiritual master will judge. Kṛṣṇa's representative. He'll not judge. He will make mistake. Therefore, if one has accepted a bona fide spiritual master, that means he is in direct touch with Kṛṣṇa. Transparent media. He has to see Kṛṣṇa through the transparent medium of spiritual master. Therefore it is imperative, one has to accept a... Tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta jijñāsuḥ śreyaḥ uttamam (SB 11.3.21). And what kind of guru? Śabde pare ca niṣṇataṁ brahmaṇy upāśamāśrayam. So this is a big science. One has to study. One has to understand. The things are there. There is no difficulty.
1974 Conversations and Morning Walks
Harikeśa: Kṛṣṇa's...
Prabhupāda: That, that I was explaining in the morning.
Harikeśa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Caitya-guru. One has to take the order of Kṛṣṇa through the media, via media of spiritual master.
Harikeśa: So all of my activities, unless they are directly following your order, are more or less a concoction of my mind.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) ...office, you cannot contact the proprietor directly. There are subordinate officers. Through them you have to take the proprietor's help. The office master is there. You have to satisfy the office master. You cannot directly approach the proprietor. If you satisfy the office master, then your promotion and other things is all right.
1975 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: Yes. This is experience. You will find many healthy persons in India subsisting only on these foodstuffs, and they have good brain also. India is still, I think, eighty percent people are strictly vegetarian. Not to speak of the higher class, but the lower class also. The higher class, brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya and vaiśya. Vaiśya is via media, between higher and lower. And the śūdras and less that the śūdras, caṇḍālas, they are lower class. So meat-eating is current among these lower class of men, śūdras and caṇḍālas. The caṇḍālas, they have no discrimination, they eat everything, and śūdras, they eat meat, but under restriction. Some of them do not; some of them do, but under restriction, and that is restricted with the goat animal. Less than the śūdras-caṇḍālas, pañcama, fifth grade—they eat everything. Especially they eat—because cow protection in India is very strict—so these caṇḍālas, fifth grade men, they eat generally pigs. Pigs they eat.
Jayatīrtha: The hippies see that their fathers have not become happy by their riches.
Prabhupāda: Yes, they have got some reason, certainly. So they refuse to adopt the way of life of their father or grandfather. So they must have some reason. But on the total we can see that these three classes of men—one in great prosperity, one via-media, and one in want... These three classes of men there are, everywhere, all over the world. Rather...
Guest: Sir, are you familiar with Yogananda's Self-Realization Fellowship and the practice of recruiting wealthy people as patrons for people who are sincerely interested in following a spiritual pursuit?
Prabhupāda: Hm, what is...?
1976 Conversations and Morning Walks
Dr. Patel: That is why guru brahma gurur viṣṇur guruḥ sākṣād maheśvaraḥ.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is fact. Sākṣād dharitvena samasta-śāstraiḥ. Caitanya Mahāprabhu also says, guru-kṛṣṇa-krpā: "By the mercy of guru and Kṛṣṇa."
Dr. Patel: Guru is a go-between God and we ourselves.
Prabhupāda: Yes, via media, via media.
Dr. Patel: He holds your hand and gives that hand to God. That is guru. That is what I think. Am I right in a way?
Prabhupāda: Transparent medium. (break) (Hindi) ...realization.
Dr. Patel: Realization is more important. Realization. Unless you realize, all is anti-thought.(?) Sāksād paro gatim.
Rāmeśvara: They all accept bribes or they do some illegal business themselves with the criminals they capture.
Prabhupāda: Yes, regular... Every criminal has got organization to bribe the police. And the police does not take directly, and some in-between man, agent, he collects from the criminal and gives to the police. In India this is going on. I know that. A via-media man, he makes fortune. Yes. Whatever is collected, ten percent he takes, and balance is given to the police. There is a confectioner in Delhi. He is selling jalebi. You know jalebi?
Devotees: Yes.
Prabhupāda: They are doing that. You can see from this big, big person. Gandhi used to say that he believes in Gītā and Gītā gives him solace in difficult times and so on, so on. But has he ever preached about Kṛṣṇa? Tilok has ever preached about Kṛṣṇa? Radhakrishnan has ever preached Kṛṣṇa? Nobody. Their policy is take Sītā and kill Rāma. Rāvaṇa's policy. Take away Sītā. Take away Gītā and kill Kṛṣṇa. So Rāvaṇa's policy will never be successful. Rāvaṇa's policy means he will be destroyed. You cannot do any harm to Rāma, but he will be destroyed. This policy, that take Sītā and kill Rāma, means he will destroy himself. So this is going on. Take Gītā and kill Kṛṣṇa. This will destroy the whole thing. This Rāvaṇa's policy. And Hanumān's policy is somehow or other rescue Sītā and get her seated by the side of Rāma. Therefore he's worshiped, Vajrāṅgajī. That is the difference between Rāvaṇa's policy. Sītā is the via media. But one is trying to bring back Sītā and seat her by the side of Rāma, and another is trying to take away Sītā and kill Rāma. This wrong policy will not take. We have to accept the instruction of Gītā and accept Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Lord. Then everything will be all right. Prasāda? So thank you very much for your coming. So, kindly if you will agree to take the instruction of Gītā, I am always at your service. I'll give you such guidance, our men, our everything. But you have to decide this. You cannot take up this policy, take Gītā and banish Kṛṣṇa. That is wanted.
Prabhupāda: Caraṇāravindam. That the Englishmen were ruling over us. Now here is English boy, he's giving me massage and fanning me. What is the reason? Unless he feels something obligation, that "He has given us Kṛṣṇa," what business he has got? Not for him, for all of you, to give so valuable free service, unless there is this sense. What do you think? You have no obligation. You are European, American. I am Indian. It is through this via media Kṛṣṇa. This is practical. Therefore Kṛṣṇa is God. Yaṁ labdhvā cāparaṁ lābhaṁ manyate nādhikaṁ tataḥ. Because they have got sense that "We have got God," therefore they are feeling so much obliged. Kṛṣṇa is God, there is no doubt about it. It is not yet ready?
Prabhupāda: It has come in by accident, combination. "So why, Arjuna, you are lamenting for the body which was not in existence? And it will not exist after. Then why you are so much anxious for the middle portion?" Good reasoning. The body was not in existence. That is the general... And as soon as you finish, there is no more existence. So via media, between the manifestation and nonmanifestation, in the middle there is some manifesta... Why you are so much absorbed in that part? Therefore the Europeans, Americans, they bring in the charges, "brainwash." "A brainwash movement. It has no actual value.
1977 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: Yes. What is the use?
Yogeśvara: But let us say by his karma a man is in a position where he cannot perceive...
Prabhupāda: That is the... That is in the via media. The real trouble is there—janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi. Now if you can make change... Suppose you are now a dog. You can become a man. But that is not solution. Or you are man; you can become a demigod. Karma. But that does not make solution! Either you become demigod or man or dog or cat or insect, you must have these tribulations, janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi (BG 13.9). That is God's challenge. You first of all make solution.
Correspondence
1966 Correspondence
So your conception of building temple of Lord Krishna is in opulence. But we our residents of Vrindaban and Vrindaban has no palaces like your Dvaraka. Vrindaban is full of forest and cows on the bank of the Yamuna and Lord Krishna in His childhood played the part of a cow boy without any royal opulence as you people inhabitants of Dvaraka think. So when the Dvarakawalas and the Vrindabanwalas meet there may be a via media.
1967 Correspondence
Whatever allocation of duty there may be, if we try to execute such specific duty sincerely, that alone can make us much more advanced in Krishna Consciousness. In the Bhagavad-gita, it is stated that for the fixed up devotee there is one duty. This duty is understood through the transparent medium via media of the Spiritual Master. It is better service to Krishna and Spiritual Master in a feeling of separation; sometimes there is risk in the matter of direct service. For example, Kirtanananda was giving me direct service by massaging, cooking for me, and so many other things; but later on by dictation of Maya, he became puffed up, so much so that he thought his Spiritual Master a common man, and was existing only on account of his service.
1968 Correspondence
I thank you very much for your acceptance of my guidance. My guidance means Krishna's guidance. I am very poor and therefore I can pray only to Krishna for your guidance. Krishna is Absolute and we are all under His guidance but the bona fide Spiritual Master is accepted as guidance because he is transparent via media between Krishna and the devotee. The devotee has no access to Krishna without the via media.
From your letter I can guess a first hand knowledge of Kirtanananda and Hayagriva. In the meantime I have received two letters from Hayagriva; one is already replied and the other is pending. Our line of action is simultaneous service to the Spiritual Master and Krishna.
And whenever we are mature in receiving the transcendental message from books like Bhagavad-gita, and Srimad-Bhagavatam, via media the transparent bona fide Spiritual Master, then we are able to chant or engage our tongue in the service of the Lord, being engaged in the service of the Lord. The material covering of our senses becomes inactive and actual spiritual form of activity becomes manifest.
It is a great science. It requires great spiritual asset to adopt the principles. You have desired to meet with Maharishi Mahesa for argument, and as Lord Caitanya argued with Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya. Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya was talking on the basic principle of Vedanta. So there was a via media interpretation. This man does not follow any Sastra or any authority. He is authority by himself, and has manufactured his own meditation process. Therefore, he is not standard. We cannot waste our time with a non-standard loafer class man. Therefore do not agitate your mind in this way. We are following the footprints of Lord Caitanya. We are not going to become God, as Maharishi says every one of us is God.
So I have no right to accept service from any disciple, but on behalf of Krishna I can accept. Sincere service to the Spiritual Master is service to the Supreme Lord. As stated in the prayer, "Prasadad Bhagavat Prasadad". That means because Krishna accepts service through the via media of Spiritual Master, therefore pleasing the Spiritual Master is equal to pleasing the Supreme Lord.
He simply goes to the temple, and offers everything with devotion to the Deity, and he doesn't know anything else. So our devotees of the society should not remain in the neophyte position; neither should they try to imitate the topmost devotee. Best thing is to remain in the via media of middle class position, namely to love God, to make friendship with devotees, and to enlighten the innocent, and to avoid the demons. These differences of body according to Karma are there, but a devotee divides them into the above groups, and so we have to divide them into these different groups and behave differently with each of the groups.
We being part and parcel of Krishna, when we surrender fully unto Krishna with sincerity of purpose, through the transparent via media of the spiritual master. One who thinks himself as Krishna's, he is non-different from Krishna. So the attitude which you are mentioning is the Grace of Krishna, and I wish by His Lordship's Mercy you will continue this aptitude of becoming more and more progressed in Krishna Consciousness. Thank you very much for thinking in such a nice way.
Unless you fix up your mind to serve your Spiritual Master, Who is direct representative of Krishna, it is not possible to approach Krishna. Krishna is approached through the transparent via media, of Spiritual Master. Anyway, the letter which you sent me 3 weeks prior was duly received by me and I have duly replied them point to point, and if you have not received that letter, I am enclosing a true copy of the reply which will clear all the points raised by you. Regarding the Murtis, the letter will explain.
So everything is possible provided one is serious. In the Srimad-Bhagavatam it is stated that if somebody is not too much addicted, neither he is completely powerful to give up some bad habits, this via media stage is favorable. Immediately if he cannot give up the medicine as he is taking, that doesn't matter. Let him chant HARE KRISHNA very seriously and he will gradually be able to give up everything.
These things are conducted in terms of place, audience, time, etc. In the Caitanya Caritamrta it is said that the activities of the Vaisnava cannot be understood even by the greatest scholar. So we have to understand everything through the transparent via media of the Spiritual Master. So there is no doubt about it that Srila Bhaktivinode Thakura is eternal energy of Lord Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu. And whatever he did, was just to suit the time, place, circumstances, and etc. There is no contradiction in his activities. Yes, also, what you have learned about Sukadeva is correct.
1969 Correspondence
So whatever I demand from you, it is for Krishna's sake. Personally I am humble servant of Krishna as you are also, but I am deputed to accept your service just to transfer it to Krishna as via media. I shall try to do this service to you and Krishna throughout my life, and I am so proud to have such assistants as you are to help me in my mission to push on the Krishna Consciousness Movement. I do not know why I am attached to your country, but I strongly believe that if the American boys and girls would accept this philosophy, it would render the greatest service to the rest of the world. In Los Angeles, the situation is improving, and when you reach there it will be further accelerated.
Regarding your first question, what is the difference in full between the Spiritual Master, Krishna, and the devotee? The answer is that Krishna is the source of all energies of the spiritual and material creations, the devotee is the part and parcel servant of Krishna, and the Spiritual Master is the transparent via media for leading the conditioned souls back to home, back to Godhead. All living entities are the servants of Krishna, but the living entities who have fallen into this conditioned life are forgetful of their eternal relationship with the Lord. The role of the bona fide Spiritual Master is to lead the conditioned souls out of forgetfulness and back into pure consciousness of serving the Lord in transcendental loving service.
When the Lord appeared on this earth 5,000 years ago, He instructed Bhagavad-gita to Arjuna, and this purely transcendental message of Krishna has been passed down for the past 5,000 years by the media of sincere disciples giving submissive aural reception to the words of Krishna via the medium of the bona fide Spiritual Master. This acts like electricity, and if you touch a wire anywhere which is connected to the powerhouse, then you will be in contact with the electric current.
The idea is that if we have to accept some service, there must be proper remuneration. Otherwise, our free service is open in the temple. Anyone can come and take advantage. Generally in the universities they pay the teachers from $800 to $2,000 per month, so at least they must pay via media not less than $1,000 per month. Anyway, don't bother about it. Go on with your business. But I thought that I required some money for my Book Fund, so I could gather some money in this way. But this will not satisfy my hunger, so forget this incident.
1970 Correspondence
In regard to praying to Lord Nityananda Prabhu I have written to you in my last letter that such prayer is quite appropriate. Our only prayer should be in the matter of desiring further development of devotional service and such sincere prayer should be submitted not directly to the lord but through the via-media of His bona fide servitor or representative.
None of the activities are personal affairs. It comes only through the proper channel, otherwise each and every activity is directly connected with Krsna. It is received through the Spiritual Master, but the business is for Krsna as much as an office superintendent is the via media for pleasing the ultimate master.
Try to rectify them as far as possible. Isana Das has inquired from Tamala regarding Tirtha Maharaja. I do not know what is the sequence of this inquiry, but it is clear that there is a great clique and the so-called Sannyasis are the via media of spreading contamination in our Society. It is a very sorry plight.
1971 Correspondence
My Dear Sons and Daughters,
Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu coming down by disciplic succession to my guru Maharaj. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them on behalf of my Guru Maharaj, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Goswami Maharaj Prabhupada.
My Dear Mahamsa, Ksudhi, Rsi Kumar, Nanda Kumar, Tusta Krishna, Krsna Tulasi, Gurukrpa, Madhudvisa Swami, etc.
Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble self and service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them on behalf of my Guru Maharaja His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.
My Dear Damodara, Patita Pavana, Michael, Tom, Emily, Tosan, Roset, Mrganetridevi, Gulab, Patrick, etc.
Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.
TO ISKCON AMSTERDAM:
My Dear Bala Gopala, Robert, Douglas, David, Jan, Jean, Vivienne, Thop, Madhavi Lata, Robert, Vivienne Dich, Robert Taylor, May, Dhananjaya, Geraldine, etc.
Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaj. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaj, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Goswami Maharaj Prabhupada.
TO ISKCON BOULDER
My Dear Kurusrestha, Dennis, Bruce, Nancy, Elicia, Pournamasi, Mark, Michael, Vincent, Tulsidasa, etc.
Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.
My Dear Bhakta das, Surya, Rajiblocan, Aniruddha, Paratrikananda, Norah, Annapurna, Marney, Nrsimha Caitanya, Marybelle, etc.
Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.
My Dear Hanuman, Noo, etc.
Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.
My Dear Mandali Bhadra, Gunnar, Rolf, Andre, Harrison, Phillip, Haripriya, Antonio, Maria, Philip, Herbert, Lilasakti, Jyotirmayi, etc.
Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.
My Dear Nityananda, Joseph, Debra, Kanya Kumari, Aubrey, Michael, Susan, etc.
Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.
My Dear Rsabhadeva, Sivani devi, Indumati, Kalyanai, Kapiladev, Richard, Suruchi, Tajh, Dru, David, Vaidyanath, etc.
Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.
My Dear Satsvarupa, Audry, Rosemary, Carol, Carolannie, Thomas, Larry, Jill, James, Barbara, Roger, Donna, Paul, Martin, Victor, Nancy, Jody, Joseph, Harer Nama, etc.
Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.
My Dear Sons and Daughters,
Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.
My Dear Sri Govinda Das, Srilekha, Leon, Woody, Debbie, etc.
Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.
My Dear Trivikrama Swami, Bibhu, Katyayani, etc.
Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.
My Dear Vamanadeva, Sharon, Badrinarayana, Judy, Pamela, John, Nancy, Cathy, Stuart, Eugene, Michael, Jayne, Richard, Mahamaya, Barry, Baladeva., Indira, Jagannatha, etc.
Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.
My Dear Vaikunthanatha and Saradia,
Please accept my blessings. I beg to thank you very much for your kind feelings of appreciation of my humble service unto you. You are all helping me in pushing forward this mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, coming down by disciplic succession to my Guru Maharaja. So whatever you have spoken, it is simply due to them. I am simply the via media to receive them, on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Maharaja Prabhupada.
1972 Correspondence
This will attract the general public and there will never be any shortage of food-stuffs, so continue regularly. In Bombay there are many generous persons who like food distribution programs, and actually, our temple should be the via media for feeding the poor with food and spiritual knowledge. Our Bombay program should be based on giving Krishna consciousness through the English medium and distribution of prasadam without any discrimination. This will enhance our prestige and will accelerate our spiritual life as well.