Prabhupāda: Otherwise what is the meaning of this disc and club? So when He wants to be violent, He comes here as Nṛsiṁha-mūrti. (laughter) And He sends some of His devotees to play violence. That is Hiraṇyakaśipu. Because there the devotees are so much in accord with Kṛṣṇa and Viṣṇu that there is no question of disagreement. But violence is when this disagree-ment, atheist. Therefore sometimes a devotee is deputed in this world to play as atheist, and Kṛṣṇa comes to kill him. To teach these people that "If you become atheist, then here is disc and club for you." But it is not possible to be displayed in the Vaikuṇṭha. Otherwise, if there is no the propensity of violence... Just like there is sometimes mock fight. A father is fighting in mock with a small child, and he has become defeated. But there is pleasure.
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<div id="RoomConversationApril111969NewYork_0" class="quote" parent="1969_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="6" link="Room Conversation -- April 11, 1969, New York" link_text="Room Conversation -- April 11, 1969, New York"> | <div id="RoomConversationApril111969NewYork_0" class="quote" parent="1969_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="6" link="Room Conversation -- April 11, 1969, New York" link_text="Room Conversation -- April 11, 1969, New York"> | ||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- April 11, 1969, New York|Room Conversation -- April 11, 1969, New York]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Otherwise what is the meaning of this disc and club? So when He wants to be violent, He comes here as Nṛsiṁha-mūrti. (laughter) And He sends some of His devotees to play violence. That is Hiraṇyakaśipu. Because there the devotees are so much in accord with Kṛṣṇa and Viṣṇu that there is no question of disagreement. But violence is when this disagree-ment, atheist. Therefore sometimes a devotee is deputed in this world to play as atheist, and Kṛṣṇa comes to kill him. To teach these people that "If you become atheist, then here is disc and club for you." But it is not possible to be displayed in the Vaikuṇṭha. Otherwise, if there is no the propensity of violence... Just like there is sometimes mock fight. A father is fighting in mock with a small child, and he has become defeated. But there is pleasure.</p> | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- April 11, 1969, New York|Room Conversation -- April 11, 1969, New York]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Otherwise what is the meaning of this disc and club? So when He wants to be violent, He comes here as Nṛsiṁha-mūrti. (laughter) And He sends some of His devotees to play violence. That is Hiraṇyakaśipu. Because there the devotees are so much in accord with Kṛṣṇa and Viṣṇu that there is no question of disagreement. But violence is when this disagree-ment, atheist. Therefore sometimes a devotee is deputed in this world to play as atheist, and Kṛṣṇa comes to kill him. To teach these people that "If you become atheist, then here is disc and club for you." But it is not possible to be displayed in the Vaikuṇṭha. Otherwise, if there is no the propensity of violence... Just like there is sometimes mock fight. A father is fighting in mock with a small child, and he has become defeated. But there is pleasure.</p> | ||
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<div id="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1971 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1971 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="InterviewwithReportersNovember101971NewDelhi_0" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="27" link="Interview with Reporters -- November 10, 1971, New Delhi" link_text="Interview with Reporters -- November 10, 1971, New Delhi"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Interview with Reporters -- November 10, 1971, New Delhi|Interview with Reporters -- November 10, 1971, New Delhi]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: It is very simple, you see. Actually one who does not understand what is Kṛṣṇa, for the neophyte, the prescription is there, that "You understand Kṛṣṇa like this." Because you are dealing with bhūmiḥ, you are dealing with water, you are dealing with fire, you are dealing with air, you are dealing with sky, you are dealing with mind, you are dealing with intelligence. You are dealing with all these things. Well, Kṛṣṇa says, "They are display of My energy." And then again says apareyam: "These energies are inferior," itas tu viddhi me prakṛtiṁ parām, "and there is another energy superior."</p> | |||
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<div id="1972_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="5" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1972 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1972 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="TalkwithBobCohenFebruary27291972Mayapura_0" class="quote" parent="1972_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="5" link="Talk with Bob Cohen -- February 27-29, 1972, Mayapura" link_text="Talk with Bob Cohen -- February 27-29, 1972, Mayapura"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Talk with Bob Cohen -- February 27-29, 1972, Mayapura|Talk with Bob Cohen -- February 27-29, 1972, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Just like a man begetting children unlimitedly, but the man is there. Crude example. But not that because he has produced hundreds of children, therefore he is finished. So similarly, God or Kṛṣṇa, in spite of His unlimited number of children, He's there. Pūrṇasya pūrṇam ādāya pūrṇam eva avaśiṣyate (Iso Invocation). This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Kṛṣṇa is never finished. (break) ...so powerful, therefore He is attractive. This is one side of the display of Kṛṣṇa's energies. Similarly, He has got unlimited energies. This study of Kṛṣṇa's energy is only one side, one portion only. So in this way if you go on studying Kṛṣṇa, that is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It is not a bogus thing, that "maybe," "perhaps not." Absolutely. It is.</p> | |||
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<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkApril271973LosAngeles_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="16" link="Morning Walk -- April 27, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 27, 1973, Los Angeles"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 27, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- April 27, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Svarūpa Dāmodara: The understanding in science is that if I burn a piece of wood, that wood contains originally cellulose. So it has certain amount carbons, and a certain amount hydrogens. So if I burn it, that carbon will be converted to smaller molecules like carbon dioxide and water. So if I balance it, starting from the original cellulose, so I'll get a certain number of carbon atoms and hydrogens. So the matter is conserved. In other words, it is not lost. That is the understanding of the science.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: No, we also, we also say. The energy, we take the sum total, material energy, that is conserved. It is displayed again. When there is annihilation, the whole energy goes back to Kṛṣṇa. Yānti māmikām, prakṛtiṁ yānti māmikām.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkMay31973LosAngeles_1" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="22" link="Morning Walk -- May 3, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 3, 1973, Los Angeles"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 3, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- May 3, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So why this should be tolerated? Don't be a doctor of chemist like one of them. Be really doctor of chemist. They must accept. This is the basic, I mean, platform of scientific knowledge. Antavanta ime dehā nityasyoktāḥ śarīriṇaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.18 (1972)|BG 2.18]]). That is stated in Bhagavad-gītā. What lesson you have taken from Bhagavad-gītā? Antavanta ime dehā. "This material body is perishable, antavantaḥ." Nityasya uktāḥ śarīriṇaḥ: "But the life within this body, that is nitya, eternal." This whole cosmic manifestation is like that, the big body, gigantic body of Viṣṇu, external energy, display of external energy. Make plan how to meet them, how to defeat them. Catch them on their throat. If they say, "I do not know," then "Why you have become professor? Why do you become professor? Why do you become scientist? If you do not know, you learn from me. You become my disciple. I'll teach you. You learn it scrutinizingly with all your knowledge. We shall teach you.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember201973LosAngeles_2" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="106" link="Morning Walk -- December 20, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 20, 1973, Los Angeles"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 20, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 20, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: ...that the energy is displayed. It works; again it comes back to the original. That's all. So what is their idea of conservation of energy? The same thing.</p> | |||
<p>Karandhara: Well, they say that there is no original. It never began, so there's no original.</p> | |||
<p>Hṛdayānanda: They also say that there's no resting place. They say that energy has no resting place.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: But that is absurd because we see the energy is coming from the powerhouse, electric energy. How you cannot deny?</p> | |||
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch61974Mayapura_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="31" link="Morning Walk -- March 6, 1974, Mayapura" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 6, 1974, Mayapura"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 6, 1974, Mayapura|Morning Walk -- March 6, 1974, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Another diversion of attention so that they can exploit public money in that way. And the public is also fooled that they believe all this nonsense.</p> | |||
<p>Viṣṇujana: In the United States, Prabhupāda, the rocks that they brought back from the moon are being displayed in all the different cities. They have little small pieces of the rocks from the moon. And people stand in long lines...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Just see...</p> | |||
<p>Viṣṇujana: ...to come and see these little pieces of rock.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: ...how much rascal you are.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkApril121974Bombay_1" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="61" link="Morning Walk -- April 12, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 12, 1974, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 12, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 12, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No, no, it is not stories. We are hearing from Bhāgavata. It is authority. We are not hearing the stories of a third-class man. We are hearing from Vyāsadeva. Vyāsadeva...</p> | |||
<p>Indian man (1): But you see, up till now, in my long life of eighty years...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, you have not so many experiences. That does not mean these things does not exist. Your experience is not all in all. Don't think like that. So these are existing actually. That is the defect, that you do not accept the authorities. That is the defect. Here Vyāsadeva is describing, who is called Vedavyāsa, full of all knowledge, and Bhāgavata is a mature experience. We are hearing from him. Why you should not believe? I may not have experience. This ghost means the living entity is subtle life without any material body. That is ghost. When one is very sinful, he does not get the material body. He lives in the subtle body: mind, intelligence and ego. That is ghostly life. And they display. Because they have no body, one cannot see, but they display so many mischiefs. That is ghostly life. (break) Seeing or not seeing doesn't matter. Therefore it is enjoined in the Vedānta-sūtra, śāstra cakṣuṣā.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkApril161974Bombay_2" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="64" link="Morning Walk -- April 16, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 16, 1974, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 16, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 16, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No, that is their nature, to differ. That is the nature. Nāsau munir yasya mataṁ na bhinnam: "He is not a muni if he does not differ with other muni."</p> | |||
<p>Dr. Patel: Yes, that's it. Muni does not speak. Maunam. (break)</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Why there is difference? (break) ...and Kṛṣṇa's power is compared. Brahmā's power is just like glowworm, and Kṛṣṇa's power is just like day sunlight. (break) The power displayed, they are of different degrees. That is the difference. The Māyāvādī philosophers, they say everything is water. They give that example. But the sea water, the force of the sea water, and the water in a pot, small pot, the degrees of force are different. In England it is very common to say, "Lord Chelmsford. Lord Chelmsford," do you know?</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkApril161974Bombay_3" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="64" link="Morning Walk -- April 16, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 16, 1974, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 16, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 16, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That was the purpose. It was not that Brahmā was degraded, but Kṛṣṇa is merciful upon Brahmā and Indra. Hm. Go on.</p> | |||
<p>Girirāja: "Lord Viṣṇu, Brahmā also realized, was the reservoir of all truth, knowledge and bliss. He is the combination of three transcendental features, namely eternity, knowledge and bliss. He is the object of worship by the followers of the Upaniṣads. Brahmā realized that all the different forms of cows, boys and calves transformed into Viṣṇu forms were not transformed by a mysticism of the type that a yogi or demigod can display by specific powers invested in him. The cows, calves and boys transformed into viṣṇu-mūrtis, or Viṣṇu forms, were not displays of viṣṇu-māyā, or Viṣṇu energy, but were Viṣṇu Himself. The respective qualifications of Viṣṇu and viṣṇu-māyā are just like fire and heat.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkMay241974Rome_4" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="82" link="Morning Walk -- May 24, 1974, Rome" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 24, 1974, Rome"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 24, 1974, Rome|Morning Walk -- May 24, 1974, Rome]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Yogeśvara: Well, there are many people who say that they have actually experienced God.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: What is that God? Tell me.</p> | |||
<p>Yogeśvara: Well, it's like the Guru Maharaji people. They say they've seen Guru Maharaji lifting Govardhana Hill and displaying universal form and so many miracles. They say they have seen Guru Maharaji doing all the miracles that Kṛṣṇa claims to have done.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: No, Kṛṣṇa, when Kṛṣṇa is present, when He lifted the Govardhana Hill, everyone saw. Where is your rascal Guru Mahārāja doing that, everyone can see? When Kṛṣṇa in Vṛndāvana, He lifted the Govardhana Hill. All the inhabitants saw it.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationAugust51974Vrndavana_5" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="143" link="Room Conversation -- August 5, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation -- August 5, 1974, Vrndavana"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 5, 1974, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- August 5, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: One is Madana, and Kṛṣṇa enchants Madana. Kṛṣṇa is so beautiful that Madana becomes enchanted by Kṛṣṇa. And Rādhārāṇī is so beautiful that Kṛṣṇa becomes enchanted. That is spiritual sex. That is not ordinary. Therefore the attraction of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa is not ordinary thing. Rādhā-kṛṣṇa-praṇaya-vikṛtir hlādinī-śaktir, this is the spiritual energy, display of spiritual energy. But the sahajiyās, they take as material attractions. As we are attracted, men and women, similarly, they take the Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa attraction.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationsSeptember111974Vrndavana_6" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="146" link="Room Conversations -- September 11, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversations -- September 11, 1974, Vrndavana"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversations -- September 11, 1974, Vrndavana|Room Conversations -- September 11, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Our philosophy is "Come. Come here, play with Kṛṣṇa as cowherd boy. Come here, dance with Kṛṣṇa as gopī. Come here, accept Kṛṣṇa as your son, Kṛṣṇa will accept you as His mother." There will be always two, and enjoy, any way. Even as enemy, demon displaying part of enemy, Kṛṣṇa killing, that is also pastime too. That is also enjoyment. Just like sometimes we fight, friend to friend, to enjoy life, because fighting is enjoyment. You become enemy of Kṛṣṇa purposefully, and to fight with Him, that is giving pleasure to Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa is enjoying, and He also becomes so staunch enemy. So this is also transcendental pleasure.</p> | |||
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkMay281975Honolulu_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="93" link="Morning Walk -- May 28, 1975, Honolulu" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 28, 1975, Honolulu"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 28, 1975, Honolulu|Morning Walk -- May 28, 1975, Honolulu]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Gurukṛpa: This is called martya-loka, and are there other...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Not similar. Every planet is different from the other. Just like in down planets there is no sunlight, so how they can be one? There the light arrangement is different. (break)</p> | |||
<p>Devotee (1): ...He displays His Vṛndāvana only on the earthly-like planet?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, Vṛndāvana is there already.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationafterPressConferenceJuly91975Chicago_1" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="136" link="Room Conversation after Press Conference -- July 9, 1975, Chicago" link_text="Room Conversation after Press Conference -- July 9, 1975, Chicago"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation after Press Conference -- July 9, 1975, Chicago|Room Conversation after Press Conference -- July 9, 1975, Chicago]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: "So you accept this cigarette."</p> | |||
<p>Brahmānanda: Yes. "This cigarette is meant just for you to show that you're superior."</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: I think there was some objection, woman taking this objection, why woman's idol should be displayed in the shopkeeper's show windows.</p> | |||
<p>Brahmānanda: The mannequins.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkJuly211975SanFrancisco_2" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="151" link="Morning Walk -- July 21, 1975, San Francisco" link_text="Morning Walk -- July 21, 1975, San Francisco"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- July 21, 1975, San Francisco|Morning Walk -- July 21, 1975, San Francisco]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Bahulāśva: We have a display over here in the window of your books, Śrīla Prabhupāda.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh.</p> | |||
<p>Bahulāśva: Would you like to see?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) Very good. So they are selling?</p> | |||
<p>Bahulāśva: This is just a display for the students to see, like advertisement.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: That's nice.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkOctober71975Durban_3" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="204" link="Morning Walk -- October 7, 1975, Durban" link_text="Morning Walk -- October 7, 1975, Durban"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- October 7, 1975, Durban|Morning Walk -- October 7, 1975, Durban]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That's all, yes. No argument. "Please come and take prasādam." That much mercy should be shown to them.</p> | |||
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They are displaying their cannon. They are displaying weapons.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: That is their only asset. And when they are kicked out by the cannon of nature, they tolerate. That's all. They are showing their cannon, but ask them, "Can you defend yourself from the cannon of nature when he kicks out, 'Get out'?" You may be very big commander and captain or leader, but when death comes can you avoid it? Then what is your leadership? What will your cannon do? You kill nature by your cannon and live. That you cannot do. Then where is the value of your cannon? Eh? Why you are so much proud of showing your cannon? What you can do with this cannon?</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkOctober281975Nairobi_4" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="226" link="Morning Walk -- October 28, 1975, Nairobi" link_text="Morning Walk -- October 28, 1975, Nairobi"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- October 28, 1975, Nairobi|Morning Walk -- October 28, 1975, Nairobi]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Nitya. That path he will not take. Kṛṣṇa says, "Here is the way." Nityaḥ śāśvato 'yaṁ na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre ([[Vanisource:BG 2.20 (1972)|BG 2.20]]). Advaitam acyutam anādim ananta-rūpam adyaṁ purāṇa-puruṣaṁ nava-yauvanam (Bs. 5.33). Kṛṣṇa, the oldest man, oldest living being, but nava-yauvana, always fresh, young... You can get that position. You can play also, play Kṛṣṇa. But that path they will not take. Kṛṣṇa, ever-existingly young man, He is displaying in Vṛndāvana and inviting, "You can also come and join and live like this." "No. That's all. It is all fictitious. There was no Kṛṣṇa. There is no such thing." Immediately dismiss judgment. And by pomade, by injection, by, what is called? Hormone? All these rascals, they are trying to be young. Just see. You are doctor. Can you make young men with this...</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkNovember71975Bombay_5" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="234" link="Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: You did not consult with me but I wanted to know the explanation.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: No. The explanation... (laughter) Now this doll should be displayed, that laboratory, they are testing urine, stool, and somebody is asking, "Here is a dead man. Why don't you test the urine and stool of this dead man and give him some injection?" This kind of doll should be displayed. The people will be interested. So I will give you suggestion. Not that stereotyped: "If one is doing something, I have to follow that." You should do something...</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkNovember71975Bombay_6" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="234" link="Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: "Those people who are worshiping other devas, they go to the other devas' house, and those who worship Me, they come to Me." Hm?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: So that is explained in Śrīmad-Bhāgavata. So if Tīrtha Mahārāja is displaying...</p> | |||
<p>Bhāgavata: Yes, Jayapataka Mahārāja told me he was there. He saw the construction, and it's going to be two stories high, 75 feet long by 30 feet wide, and they're going to have dolls on both floors, Caitanya-līlā.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm. That's all right. You can do.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkNovember71975Bombay_7" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="234" link="Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. Modern men will understand Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam by display of dolls.</p> | |||
<p>Dr. Patel: What are the dolls you are talking about all this time? We don't know, sir. What it means?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Dolls means the Bhāgavata śloka explained by doll display. Just like in your medical science there are sometimes...</p> | |||
<p>Dr. Patel: Models.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Models, yes.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkNovember71975Bombay_8" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="234" link="Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: Like that, a model.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Models. Yes, exactly the word, model. You can display... Everything is there in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, this anatomic, physiologic, how the child is growing within the womb of his mother.</p> | |||
<p>Bhāgavata: Different...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. One day, fifth day, and like that. In seven months how it is developed. Everything is there in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavata. Then you can display the hell, different hells.</p> | |||
<p>Girirāja: Different hells.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkNovember71975Bombay_9" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="234" link="Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: How one is going by cheating others, by stealing. So everything. You can display, what is called? That planetary system?</p> | |||
<p>Indian man (1): Planetarium?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Planetarium. According to planetarium.</p> | |||
<p>Dr. Patel: They have got a big planetarium in Calcutta.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkNovember71975Bombay_10" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="234" link="Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: In Sanskrit and English because Sanskrit contains Bengali and Gujarati and all.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. That's a good idea, good idea.</p> | |||
<p>Dr. Patel: I go, sir.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm? Time is up? Hare Kṛṣṇa. (break) ...many things to be displayed by these models, and we can utilize that.</p> | |||
<p>Bhāgavata: Like the pictures we have in the Bhāgavatam and the Gītā, then we can make them into doll displays, some of those pictures.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: But the idea was that in our big temple I wanted to display.</p> | |||
<p>Bhāgavata: Oh. You didn't want a separate building.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: No. We wanted to display where is...</p> | |||
<p>Passerby: Oh, haribol!</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkNovember71975Bombay_11" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="234" link="Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: And then others things will be there. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Tīrtha Mahārāja, for the last fifty years, he did not do anything. Now he is afraid. You know Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī?</p> | |||
<p>Bhāgavata: In Vṛndāvana.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. He approached me that "You just have a big hall in the Yogapīṭha." I immediately accepted, that "Yes, if you give us the charge we can spend immediately ten lakhs." So Śrīdhara Mahārāja has said that "If it is gone to Swami Mahārāja, then there will be no trace of Tīrtha Mahārāja." Therefore he is trying for that. So I think we shall have, according to our original plan, the temple, and in that temple we shall display all these dolls: "Here is Vaikuṇṭhaloka, here is this loka, this loka, this loka." That will be... (break) ...we make some arrangement for exhibition of our books very nicely.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkNovember71975Bombay_12" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="234" link="Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- November 7, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. That Tīrtha Mahārāja will not be able to show.</p> | |||
<p>Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Never.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: He has no capacity.</p> | |||
<p>Yaśomatīnandana: He will display only one Brahma-saṁhitā, that also by Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī.</p> | |||
<p>Bhāgavata: So we will make a very nice book display. I will see that there is a very nice book display made with the Caitanya-caritamṛtas and the Bhāgavatams displayed. (break) ...the governor of Bengal, and he was quite congenial. He was friendly. And he agreed that if we contact him and make the proper arrangements he might come and see you there when you come to Māyāpur.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Very nice.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkNovember181975Bombay_13" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="244" link="Morning Walk -- November 18, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- November 18, 1975, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 18, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- November 18, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Jayapataka: It would be nice to have a big book display, I think.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Immediately ask them to dispatch to Māyāpura all books for demonstration. That is the main item, and they have not sent in Māyāpura? Caitanya?</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkNovember181975Bombay_14" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="244" link="Morning Walk -- November 18, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- November 18, 1975, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 18, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- November 18, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Girirāja: Well, other than the Ādi-līlā, the later volumes only came within about a few days ago.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. In māyāpura all the books should be displayed.</p> | |||
<p>Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. We'll get a complete set for display also.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Caitanya-caritāmṛta especially, it should be displayed in Māyāpura. Immediately ask to send to Māyāpura. And whatever books you have got already, you send them immediately. You select what books you want. Harer nama harer nama ([[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.21|CC Adi 17.21]]).</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkNovember201975Bombay_15" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="246" link="Morning Walk -- November 20, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- November 20, 1975, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 20, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- November 20, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: (break) ...ago, there was one Mr. Badhuri in Benares. He was a great astrologer. So he told me that from Benares the Germans have taken three books: one is Akāśa-patola, one is Kapota-vahi and his Khapoda-vahi. Khapoda-vahi, this airplane. Kha means akasa. And there is another science, kapota-vahi, to carry man by the pigeons. That is not yet displayed. Kapota-vahi. And there is another, Akasa-patola. Any, any, even your chairs you sit down; by mantra it will go on.</p> | |||
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkJanuary181976Mayapur_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="16" link="Morning Walk -- January 18, 1976, Mayapur" link_text="Morning Walk -- January 18, 1976, Mayapur"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- January 18, 1976, Mayapur|Morning Walk -- January 18, 1976, Mayapur]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You know those quotations you gave from your guru mahārāja? Yesterday you wrote some quotations?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, yes.</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Here is a place where they might be displayed. This is a blank place.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, yes. There it should be written.</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This is very prominent.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Not only there, here also.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationMay41976Honolulu_1" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="96" link="Room Conversation -- May 4, 1976, Honolulu" link_text="Room Conversation -- May 4, 1976, Honolulu"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- May 4, 1976, Honolulu|Room Conversation -- May 4, 1976, Honolulu]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: And the whole Kuru dynasty was threatened.</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Very good class of people are coming to the restaurant, businessmen, like that.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: And there is book display?</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, yes. Oh, yes, there's a book display.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: They are purchasing book also?</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationJuly41976WashingtonDC_2" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="182" link="Room Conversation -- July 4, 1976, Washington D.C." link_text="Room Conversation -- July 4, 1976, Washington D.C."> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- July 4, 1976, Washington D.C.|Room Conversation -- July 4, 1976, Washington D.C.]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Meat creates cancer of the intestines.</p> | |||
<p>Rūpānuga: Actually, there have been some articles in papers lately about meat and cancer, linking meat and cancer. Prominent, prominently displayed articles.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Then why do you give milk to the children? Give him blood.</p> | |||
<p>Rūpānuga: They say past a certain age...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, this propaganda-milk is bad—so why from the very beginning you give milk to the children?</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkJuly141976NewYork_6" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="213" link="Morning Walk -- July 14, 1976, New York" link_text="Morning Walk -- July 14, 1976, New York"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- July 14, 1976, New York|Morning Walk -- July 14, 1976, New York]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: If they are selling, you can sell these pictures.</p> | |||
<p>Rāmeśvara: I think they will sell. (break) ...popular is that at colleges they like to have art shows come where they display the paintings and then they move on to another college. So we can do that with some of our art paintings also. They will give us one hall just to hang the paintings for some time.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: So many trees have come. (break) ...from stone there is grass.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkJuly201976NewYork_7" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="224" link="Morning Walk -- July 20, 1976, New York" link_text="Morning Walk -- July 20, 1976, New York"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- July 20, 1976, New York|Morning Walk -- July 20, 1976, New York]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Rāmeśvara: They have this one display trying to prove that..., the Darwin theory of evolution. They have these bones, and they say this proves how man was formerly like an ape or a monkey. Now he has become more civilized.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: So where is Darwin's bones?</p> | |||
<p>Rāmeśvara: Then they have one display showing...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, Darwin got all this knowledge. His bones should be studied first, how he got so much knowledge. And from which monkey he came. By studying the bones, discover it.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkJuly201976NewYork_8" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="224" link="Morning Walk -- July 20, 1976, New York" link_text="Morning Walk -- July 20, 1976, New York"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- July 20, 1976, New York|Morning Walk -- July 20, 1976, New York]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Ask them to find out from which monkey the Darwin's bone has come. They may decide. Study the bones of Darwin. And spoiling public money in this way. (break)</p> | |||
<p>Rāmeśvara: ...each display they have some background artwork very expertly done. Say they have a display of a tiger. They have a painting of the forest in the background, and it's very well done. They spend a lot of money, with lighting systems.</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But none of the exhibits are moving. (break)</p> | |||
<p>Rāmeśvara: ...for one display of the different stages of the embryo growing. So to have this display they used actual dead aborted babies. They have them mounted in the display case, the dead babies that they have killed.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Killed?</p> | |||
<p>Rāmeśvara: Aborted babies. They have taken their tiny little bodies and put them in a display, so you can see the baby at two months, at four months, at six months, at eight months. Like that.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: How it is growing.</p> | |||
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<div id="EveningDarsanaAugust91976Tehran_9" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="251" link="Evening Darsana -- August 9, 1976, Tehran" link_text="Evening Darsana -- August 9, 1976, Tehran"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Evening Darsana -- August 9, 1976, Tehran|Evening Darsana -- August 9, 1976, Tehran]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Ali: Just like when there is a mutual understanding, then...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: No, there must be practical display.</p> | |||
<p>Ali: Practical display.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, simply understanding will not do. That is not love, that is appreciation.</p> | |||
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<div id="EveningDarsanaAugust141976Bombay_10" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="263" link="Evening Darsana -- August 14, 1976, Bombay" link_text="Evening Darsana -- August 14, 1976, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Evening Darsana -- August 14, 1976, Bombay|Evening Darsana -- August 14, 1976, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: But everything can be dovetailed, nirbandhe kṛṣṇa sambandhe yukta-vairāgyam ucyate. Just like our Sītā-Rāma(?), she wants to do some display to help Kṛṣṇa movement. That is very good.</p> | |||
<p>Guest (7): She wanted to make the money.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Eh?</p> | |||
<p>Guest (7): She wanted to make the money in this country. She would have the money, the richest artist in this country.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p> | |||
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<div id="GardenConversationSeptember31976Vrndavana_11" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="293" link="Garden Conversation -- September 3, 1976, Vrndavana" link_text="Garden Conversation -- September 3, 1976, Vrndavana"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Garden Conversation -- September 3, 1976, Vrndavana|Garden Conversation -- September 3, 1976, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No. Anywhere it will be... Not only flies. The birds, when they flock together, so there is no collision. And they very forcibly go like this, this, this, this, all together, but you won't find one accident. And this is Kṛṣṇa's inconceivable energy. What you can do? You cannot fly hundreds of planes at a time. There will be at least three, four accidents.</p> | |||
<p>Caraṇāravindam: They have great difficulty doing these air displays. Many planes flying together, these air displays. There is so much difficulty for them. A lot of them, they have accidents. Also...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Formerly I used to see three, four, more than four flies going together. Nowadays I do not see.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationSeptember51976Vrndavana_12" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="296" link="Room Conversation -- September 5, 1976, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation -- September 5, 1976, Vrndavana"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- September 5, 1976, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- September 5, 1976, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: The CID is going to our life members and harassing them. They are scared of becoming our members now. Even in Chandigargh, Caitya-guru told me your books were on display in one life member's stores, he has two stores. And CID went to him and said, "Why are you displaying these books? What's your connection? Why're you helping Hare Kṛṣṇa?"</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: So selling books is illegal?</p> | |||
<p>Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No, but they are just suspecting, they're so suspicious.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: What is that suspicious? We have got books. We are selling.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationSeptember111976Vrndavana_13" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="305" link="Room Conversation -- September 11, 1976, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation -- September 11, 1976, Vrndavana"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- September 11, 1976, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- September 11, 1976, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: And nice Gaura-Nitāi and Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa. And they'll prepare nice dress and pack in a box and send to our different centers. There are hundred centers. If you can dispatch at least one dozen pairs, you can make business for twelve hundred pairs. It will be very big business. And if they are displayed, people will like to purchase. It will be very good business.</p> | |||
<p>Dhanañjaya: Even here. For people coming to our temple, if we have display they will purchase.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. We can have our shop here. We are getting so many shops. So one shop Deity and Deity clothes and mukuṭas. Just like they have got...</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoSaiBabaSeptember131976Vrndavana_14" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="308" link="Letter to Sai Baba -- September 13, 1976, Vrndavana" link_text="Letter to Sai Baba -- September 13, 1976, Vrndavana"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Sai Baba -- September 13, 1976, Vrndavana|Letter to Sai Baba -- September 13, 1976, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: The Supreme Person with full power. That is misleading. You can show a little magic, as other magicians also can show.</p> | |||
<p>Pradyumna: "You can show a little magic as other magicians can also show."</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: But you cannot show the full magic, as Kṛṣṇa displayed or Lord Rāmacandra displayed. Therefore your claim as a full power is completely false and blasphemous.</p> | |||
<p>Pradyumna: "Therefore your claim for full power is completely false..."</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: And blasphemous. In this way find out.</p> | |||
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<div id="LettertoSaiBabaSeptember131976Vrndavana_15" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="308" link="Letter to Sai Baba -- September 13, 1976, Vrndavana" link_text="Letter to Sai Baba -- September 13, 1976, Vrndavana"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Sai Baba -- September 13, 1976, Vrndavana|Letter to Sai Baba -- September 13, 1976, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: But He never claimed that "I am avatāra." But we understand from the śāstric evidence. He never claimed. Rather when He was addressed as Kṛṣṇa He blocked His ears, "You don't say like that." He never claimed. He fully displayed Himself as a devotee. Not Bhagavān. Therefore Gaurāṅgavāda is illegal. Gaurāṅga-nāgarī. That is illegal. Moha-vāda or something like that.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationJanuary81977Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="16" link="Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay|Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: When you have come?</p> | |||
<p>Bhavabhūtī: Just today, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Just today from Madras. I closed the bank account there. Also I was in Madras, there's one movie playing there by the government. The name of the movie is called, "From the Indus Valley to Indira Gandhi." It's a government movie put out, and in the movie there's a picture of the Hare Kṛṣṇa devotees chanting and also a display of your books.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Acchā?</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningDiscussionaboutKumbhamelaJanuary81977Bombay_1" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="20" link="Morning Discussion about Kumbhamela -- January 8, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Morning Discussion about Kumbhamela -- January 8, 1977, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Discussion about Kumbhamela -- January 8, 1977, Bombay|Morning Discussion about Kumbhamela -- January 8, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No, why? There is no need.</p> | |||
<p>Gurudāsa: And we're having display, book table, membership table, and cinema is showing at night.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: So how people come?</p> | |||
<p>Gurudāsa: Some people come, but I think once we start our saṅkīrtana and leaflets... The mela officials said, "We put you there because you will draw, and others will not. People will want to come to you, so they will make an effort to come to you."</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: But there is easy way to come?</p> | |||
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<div id="ArrivalofBBTManagerJanuary91977Bombay_2" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="24" link="Arrival of BBT Manager -- January 9, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Arrival of BBT Manager -- January 9, 1977, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Arrival of BBT Manager -- January 9, 1977, Bombay|Arrival of BBT Manager -- January 9, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: One of the biggest bookstores in Bombay, International Book House, has arranged a whole window display of your books.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: That is useless.</p> | |||
<p>Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Many people were seeing it.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Useless. I know these men. But you can get some customers. That's all right. Do they purchase or simply display?</p> | |||
<p>Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No. They purchase also.</p> | |||
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<div id="ArrivalofBBTManagerJanuary91977Bombay_3" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="24" link="Arrival of BBT Manager -- January 9, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Arrival of BBT Manager -- January 9, 1977, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Arrival of BBT Manager -- January 9, 1977, Bombay|Arrival of BBT Manager -- January 9, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Rāmeśvara: Actually in Belgium the National Museum has also set up in their main window a display of your books. And that's very good for a museum, because they do not sell there, but they are considering it so important and scholarly that they are displaying them for the public to see.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: That is good recommendation, yes. If that museum is so important, so to keep our books there is prestigious. In Europe, America, it is going on nice. Now here we have to take advantage of these papers. So I have already given Jagadīśa the idea. Now you immediately put into effect. You keep that also with your papers, this format. Yes.</p> | |||
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<div id="ConversationonTraintoAllahabadJanuary111977India_4" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="27" link="Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India" link_text="Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India|Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Rāmeśvara: Well, they're saying that the substance is different. Kṛṣṇa is one...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: The substance is different; then God... There is no God. Either Kṛṣṇa is not God, Jehovah is not God. Just like gold...</p> | |||
<p>Rāmeśvara: They say that because Kṛṣṇa displayed His activities when He was here...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. God will play. That is God. God is not dead. Your God is dead. Our God is alive. That is the difference. God must be alive. Why God should be dead? (break) So you are under God's control. Then you say whether Jehovah is God or Kṛṣṇa is God. First of all you must know. You must let us know what do you mean by God.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationJanuary211977Bhuvanesvara_5" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="38" link="Room Conversation -- January 21, 1977, Bhuvanesvara" link_text="Room Conversation -- January 21, 1977, Bhuvanesvara"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 21, 1977, Bhuvanesvara|Room Conversation -- January 21, 1977, Bhuvanesvara]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So God has to deal with so many rascals, fools, in this material world. Sometimes He displays His pastime like that. Therefore who will understand? Only the devotees will understand. So you do not understand Kṛṣṇa. We are devotees of Kṛṣṇa. We know the secret. To keep you perpetually in darkness, He manifested such līlā that He is dead, finish. Just like the idol-breaker. They think, "Now their Kṛṣṇa is finished. We have broken." During Hindu-Muslim riot they do that. They break their mosque, and they break their temple and idol also.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationFebruary21977Bhuvanesvara_6" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="75" link="Room Conversation -- February 2, 1977, Bhuvanesvara" link_text="Room Conversation -- February 2, 1977, Bhuvanesvara"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- February 2, 1977, Bhuvanesvara|Room Conversation -- February 2, 1977, Bhuvanesvara]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So things are going nice?</p> | |||
<p>Yugadharma: Yes, very nice. Everybody was very satisfied.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: And building?</p> | |||
<p>Yugadharma: Building is going on very well also. They say the front of the Gurukula will be finished by the time the devotees come, at least partial. Dhanañjaya will have one store opened so the devotees can buy, purchase paraphernalia so they won't go into town and make an array, a display of lakṣmī like that. They are setting it up very nicely.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: The mūrtis are made nice?</p> | |||
<p>Yugadharma: Oh, yes. Very nice. This Spanish artist is very, very first-class, very first-class.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: It is locally molded?</p> | |||
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<div id="ArrivalofDevoteesFebruary241977Mayapura_7" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="103" link="Arrival of Devotees -- February 24, 1977, Mayapura" link_text="Arrival of Devotees -- February 24, 1977, Mayapura"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Arrival of Devotees -- February 24, 1977, Mayapura|Arrival of Devotees -- February 24, 1977, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Rādhā-vallabha: We also calculated how many hardbound Bhāgavatams are in print. That's one million. And there's almost three million Gītās in print too.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: So this should be displayed here.</p> | |||
<p>Rādhā-vallabha: That... We have one big framed stat showing the English. You have five or six books that have over one million copies in print.</p> | |||
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<div id="MorningConversationMay291977Vrndavana_8" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="184" link="Morning Conversation -- May 29, 1977, Vrndavana" link_text="Morning Conversation -- May 29, 1977, Vrndavana"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Conversation -- May 29, 1977, Vrndavana|Morning Conversation -- May 29, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: All very aristocratic, very aristocratic. What is aristocracy, that is displayed there.</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Those people, they always used to look from the outside in, but they were never allowed to come in. The people from that neighborhood, they used to stare within, wondering what is inside there. Now, since we have come, we have opened our gates and doors and said, "Please come." Oh, they're very much happy to come in and see us there.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: They're grave. They behave very nicely.</p> | |||
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<div id="ConversationJune301977Vrndavana_9" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="204" link="Conversation -- June 30, 1977, Vrndavana" link_text="Conversation -- June 30, 1977, Vrndavana"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation -- June 30, 1977, Vrndavana|Conversation -- June 30, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Jaya Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma. Who has got strength like Balarāma? Balarāma, He can do everything by His strength. We are depending on Him, Balarāma. He can please everyone, and He has got immense strength to do anything He likes. Jaya Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma. Now these sakhīs, aṣṭa-sakhī, there is no instance we have displayed. Why they should be kept inside? Only one man should be under a cloud(?), in an upturned (indistinct).</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationAugust101977Vrndavana_10" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="233" link="Room Conversation -- August 10, 1977, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation -- August 10, 1977, Vrndavana"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 10, 1977, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- August 10, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: ...by good association. This is the result of our movement. (break) (Bengali)</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bhakti-caru? Should I call for him?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Hmm... Such nice color display, and there is no brain. The animal-killer civilization, Western country, has killed all their brain, good sense, good sentiment, everything.</p> | |||
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Conversations and Morning Walks
1969 Conversations and Morning Walks
1971 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: It is very simple, you see. Actually one who does not understand what is Kṛṣṇa, for the neophyte, the prescription is there, that "You understand Kṛṣṇa like this." Because you are dealing with bhūmiḥ, you are dealing with water, you are dealing with fire, you are dealing with air, you are dealing with sky, you are dealing with mind, you are dealing with intelligence. You are dealing with all these things. Well, Kṛṣṇa says, "They are display of My energy." And then again says apareyam: "These energies are inferior," itas tu viddhi me prakṛtiṁ parām, "and there is another energy superior."
1972 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: Just like a man begetting children unlimitedly, but the man is there. Crude example. But not that because he has produced hundreds of children, therefore he is finished. So similarly, God or Kṛṣṇa, in spite of His unlimited number of children, He's there. Pūrṇasya pūrṇam ādāya pūrṇam eva avaśiṣyate (Iso Invocation). This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Kṛṣṇa is never finished. (break) ...so powerful, therefore He is attractive. This is one side of the display of Kṛṣṇa's energies. Similarly, He has got unlimited energies. This study of Kṛṣṇa's energy is only one side, one portion only. So in this way if you go on studying Kṛṣṇa, that is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It is not a bogus thing, that "maybe," "perhaps not." Absolutely. It is.
1973 Conversations and Morning Walks
Svarūpa Dāmodara: The understanding in science is that if I burn a piece of wood, that wood contains originally cellulose. So it has certain amount carbons, and a certain amount hydrogens. So if I burn it, that carbon will be converted to smaller molecules like carbon dioxide and water. So if I balance it, starting from the original cellulose, so I'll get a certain number of carbon atoms and hydrogens. So the matter is conserved. In other words, it is not lost. That is the understanding of the science.
Prabhupāda: No, we also, we also say. The energy, we take the sum total, material energy, that is conserved. It is displayed again. When there is annihilation, the whole energy goes back to Kṛṣṇa. Yānti māmikām, prakṛtiṁ yānti māmikām.
Prabhupāda: So why this should be tolerated? Don't be a doctor of chemist like one of them. Be really doctor of chemist. They must accept. This is the basic, I mean, platform of scientific knowledge. Antavanta ime dehā nityasyoktāḥ śarīriṇaḥ (BG 2.18). That is stated in Bhagavad-gītā. What lesson you have taken from Bhagavad-gītā? Antavanta ime dehā. "This material body is perishable, antavantaḥ." Nityasya uktāḥ śarīriṇaḥ: "But the life within this body, that is nitya, eternal." This whole cosmic manifestation is like that, the big body, gigantic body of Viṣṇu, external energy, display of external energy. Make plan how to meet them, how to defeat them. Catch them on their throat. If they say, "I do not know," then "Why you have become professor? Why do you become professor? Why do you become scientist? If you do not know, you learn from me. You become my disciple. I'll teach you. You learn it scrutinizingly with all your knowledge. We shall teach you.
Prabhupāda: ...that the energy is displayed. It works; again it comes back to the original. That's all. So what is their idea of conservation of energy? The same thing.
Karandhara: Well, they say that there is no original. It never began, so there's no original.
Hṛdayānanda: They also say that there's no resting place. They say that energy has no resting place.
Prabhupāda: But that is absurd because we see the energy is coming from the powerhouse, electric energy. How you cannot deny?
1974 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: Another diversion of attention so that they can exploit public money in that way. And the public is also fooled that they believe all this nonsense.
Viṣṇujana: In the United States, Prabhupāda, the rocks that they brought back from the moon are being displayed in all the different cities. They have little small pieces of the rocks from the moon. And people stand in long lines...
Prabhupāda: Just see...
Viṣṇujana: ...to come and see these little pieces of rock.
Prabhupāda: ...how much rascal you are.
Prabhupāda: No, no, it is not stories. We are hearing from Bhāgavata. It is authority. We are not hearing the stories of a third-class man. We are hearing from Vyāsadeva. Vyāsadeva...
Indian man (1): But you see, up till now, in my long life of eighty years...
Prabhupāda: No, no, you have not so many experiences. That does not mean these things does not exist. Your experience is not all in all. Don't think like that. So these are existing actually. That is the defect, that you do not accept the authorities. That is the defect. Here Vyāsadeva is describing, who is called Vedavyāsa, full of all knowledge, and Bhāgavata is a mature experience. We are hearing from him. Why you should not believe? I may not have experience. This ghost means the living entity is subtle life without any material body. That is ghost. When one is very sinful, he does not get the material body. He lives in the subtle body: mind, intelligence and ego. That is ghostly life. And they display. Because they have no body, one cannot see, but they display so many mischiefs. That is ghostly life. (break) Seeing or not seeing doesn't matter. Therefore it is enjoined in the Vedānta-sūtra, śāstra cakṣuṣā.
Prabhupāda: No, that is their nature, to differ. That is the nature. Nāsau munir yasya mataṁ na bhinnam: "He is not a muni if he does not differ with other muni."
Dr. Patel: Yes, that's it. Muni does not speak. Maunam. (break)
Prabhupāda: Why there is difference? (break) ...and Kṛṣṇa's power is compared. Brahmā's power is just like glowworm, and Kṛṣṇa's power is just like day sunlight. (break) The power displayed, they are of different degrees. That is the difference. The Māyāvādī philosophers, they say everything is water. They give that example. But the sea water, the force of the sea water, and the water in a pot, small pot, the degrees of force are different. In England it is very common to say, "Lord Chelmsford. Lord Chelmsford," do you know?
Prabhupāda: That was the purpose. It was not that Brahmā was degraded, but Kṛṣṇa is merciful upon Brahmā and Indra. Hm. Go on.
Girirāja: "Lord Viṣṇu, Brahmā also realized, was the reservoir of all truth, knowledge and bliss. He is the combination of three transcendental features, namely eternity, knowledge and bliss. He is the object of worship by the followers of the Upaniṣads. Brahmā realized that all the different forms of cows, boys and calves transformed into Viṣṇu forms were not transformed by a mysticism of the type that a yogi or demigod can display by specific powers invested in him. The cows, calves and boys transformed into viṣṇu-mūrtis, or Viṣṇu forms, were not displays of viṣṇu-māyā, or Viṣṇu energy, but were Viṣṇu Himself. The respective qualifications of Viṣṇu and viṣṇu-māyā are just like fire and heat.
Yogeśvara: Well, there are many people who say that they have actually experienced God.
Prabhupāda: What is that God? Tell me.
Yogeśvara: Well, it's like the Guru Maharaji people. They say they've seen Guru Maharaji lifting Govardhana Hill and displaying universal form and so many miracles. They say they have seen Guru Maharaji doing all the miracles that Kṛṣṇa claims to have done.
Prabhupāda: No, Kṛṣṇa, when Kṛṣṇa is present, when He lifted the Govardhana Hill, everyone saw. Where is your rascal Guru Mahārāja doing that, everyone can see? When Kṛṣṇa in Vṛndāvana, He lifted the Govardhana Hill. All the inhabitants saw it.
Prabhupāda: One is Madana, and Kṛṣṇa enchants Madana. Kṛṣṇa is so beautiful that Madana becomes enchanted by Kṛṣṇa. And Rādhārāṇī is so beautiful that Kṛṣṇa becomes enchanted. That is spiritual sex. That is not ordinary. Therefore the attraction of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa is not ordinary thing. Rādhā-kṛṣṇa-praṇaya-vikṛtir hlādinī-śaktir, this is the spiritual energy, display of spiritual energy. But the sahajiyās, they take as material attractions. As we are attracted, men and women, similarly, they take the Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa attraction.
Prabhupāda: Our philosophy is "Come. Come here, play with Kṛṣṇa as cowherd boy. Come here, dance with Kṛṣṇa as gopī. Come here, accept Kṛṣṇa as your son, Kṛṣṇa will accept you as His mother." There will be always two, and enjoy, any way. Even as enemy, demon displaying part of enemy, Kṛṣṇa killing, that is also pastime too. That is also enjoyment. Just like sometimes we fight, friend to friend, to enjoy life, because fighting is enjoyment. You become enemy of Kṛṣṇa purposefully, and to fight with Him, that is giving pleasure to Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa is enjoying, and He also becomes so staunch enemy. So this is also transcendental pleasure.
1975 Conversations and Morning Walks
Gurukṛpa: This is called martya-loka, and are there other...
Prabhupāda: Not similar. Every planet is different from the other. Just like in down planets there is no sunlight, so how they can be one? There the light arrangement is different. (break)
Devotee (1): ...He displays His Vṛndāvana only on the earthly-like planet?
Prabhupāda: Yes, Vṛndāvana is there already.
Prabhupāda: "So you accept this cigarette."
Brahmānanda: Yes. "This cigarette is meant just for you to show that you're superior."
Prabhupāda: I think there was some objection, woman taking this objection, why woman's idol should be displayed in the shopkeeper's show windows.
Brahmānanda: The mannequins.
Bahulāśva: We have a display over here in the window of your books, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Bahulāśva: Would you like to see?
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) Very good. So they are selling?
Bahulāśva: This is just a display for the students to see, like advertisement.
Prabhupāda: That's nice.
Prabhupāda: That's all, yes. No argument. "Please come and take prasādam." That much mercy should be shown to them.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They are displaying their cannon. They are displaying weapons.
Prabhupāda: That is their only asset. And when they are kicked out by the cannon of nature, they tolerate. That's all. They are showing their cannon, but ask them, "Can you defend yourself from the cannon of nature when he kicks out, 'Get out'?" You may be very big commander and captain or leader, but when death comes can you avoid it? Then what is your leadership? What will your cannon do? You kill nature by your cannon and live. That you cannot do. Then where is the value of your cannon? Eh? Why you are so much proud of showing your cannon? What you can do with this cannon?
Prabhupāda: Nitya. That path he will not take. Kṛṣṇa says, "Here is the way." Nityaḥ śāśvato 'yaṁ na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre (BG 2.20). Advaitam acyutam anādim ananta-rūpam adyaṁ purāṇa-puruṣaṁ nava-yauvanam (Bs. 5.33). Kṛṣṇa, the oldest man, oldest living being, but nava-yauvana, always fresh, young... You can get that position. You can play also, play Kṛṣṇa. But that path they will not take. Kṛṣṇa, ever-existingly young man, He is displaying in Vṛndāvana and inviting, "You can also come and join and live like this." "No. That's all. It is all fictitious. There was no Kṛṣṇa. There is no such thing." Immediately dismiss judgment. And by pomade, by injection, by, what is called? Hormone? All these rascals, they are trying to be young. Just see. You are doctor. Can you make young men with this...
Dr. Patel: You did not consult with me but I wanted to know the explanation.
Prabhupāda: No. The explanation... (laughter) Now this doll should be displayed, that laboratory, they are testing urine, stool, and somebody is asking, "Here is a dead man. Why don't you test the urine and stool of this dead man and give him some injection?" This kind of doll should be displayed. The people will be interested. So I will give you suggestion. Not that stereotyped: "If one is doing something, I have to follow that." You should do something...
Dr. Patel: "Those people who are worshiping other devas, they go to the other devas' house, and those who worship Me, they come to Me." Hm?
Prabhupāda: So that is explained in Śrīmad-Bhāgavata. So if Tīrtha Mahārāja is displaying...
Bhāgavata: Yes, Jayapataka Mahārāja told me he was there. He saw the construction, and it's going to be two stories high, 75 feet long by 30 feet wide, and they're going to have dolls on both floors, Caitanya-līlā.
Prabhupāda: Hm. That's all right. You can do.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Modern men will understand Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam by display of dolls.
Dr. Patel: What are the dolls you are talking about all this time? We don't know, sir. What it means?
Prabhupāda: Dolls means the Bhāgavata śloka explained by doll display. Just like in your medical science there are sometimes...
Dr. Patel: Models.
Prabhupāda: Models, yes.
Dr. Patel: Like that, a model.
Prabhupāda: Models. Yes, exactly the word, model. You can display... Everything is there in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, this anatomic, physiologic, how the child is growing within the womb of his mother.
Bhāgavata: Different...
Prabhupāda: Yes. One day, fifth day, and like that. In seven months how it is developed. Everything is there in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavata. Then you can display the hell, different hells.
Girirāja: Different hells.
Prabhupāda: How one is going by cheating others, by stealing. So everything. You can display, what is called? That planetary system?
Indian man (1): Planetarium?
Prabhupāda: Planetarium. According to planetarium.
Dr. Patel: They have got a big planetarium in Calcutta.
Dr. Patel: In Sanskrit and English because Sanskrit contains Bengali and Gujarati and all.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That's a good idea, good idea.
Dr. Patel: I go, sir.
Prabhupāda: Hm? Time is up? Hare Kṛṣṇa. (break) ...many things to be displayed by these models, and we can utilize that.
Bhāgavata: Like the pictures we have in the Bhāgavatam and the Gītā, then we can make them into doll displays, some of those pictures.
Prabhupāda: But the idea was that in our big temple I wanted to display.
Bhāgavata: Oh. You didn't want a separate building.
Prabhupāda: No. We wanted to display where is...
Passerby: Oh, haribol!
Prabhupāda: And then others things will be there. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Tīrtha Mahārāja, for the last fifty years, he did not do anything. Now he is afraid. You know Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī?
Bhāgavata: In Vṛndāvana.
Prabhupāda: Yes. He approached me that "You just have a big hall in the Yogapīṭha." I immediately accepted, that "Yes, if you give us the charge we can spend immediately ten lakhs." So Śrīdhara Mahārāja has said that "If it is gone to Swami Mahārāja, then there will be no trace of Tīrtha Mahārāja." Therefore he is trying for that. So I think we shall have, according to our original plan, the temple, and in that temple we shall display all these dolls: "Here is Vaikuṇṭhaloka, here is this loka, this loka, this loka." That will be... (break) ...we make some arrangement for exhibition of our books very nicely.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That Tīrtha Mahārāja will not be able to show.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Never.
Prabhupāda: He has no capacity.
Yaśomatīnandana: He will display only one Brahma-saṁhitā, that also by Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī.
Bhāgavata: So we will make a very nice book display. I will see that there is a very nice book display made with the Caitanya-caritamṛtas and the Bhāgavatams displayed. (break) ...the governor of Bengal, and he was quite congenial. He was friendly. And he agreed that if we contact him and make the proper arrangements he might come and see you there when you come to Māyāpur.
Prabhupāda: Very nice.
Jayapataka: It would be nice to have a big book display, I think.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Immediately ask them to dispatch to Māyāpura all books for demonstration. That is the main item, and they have not sent in Māyāpura? Caitanya?
Girirāja: Well, other than the Ādi-līlā, the later volumes only came within about a few days ago.
Prabhupāda: No, no. In māyāpura all the books should be displayed.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. We'll get a complete set for display also.
Prabhupāda: Caitanya-caritāmṛta especially, it should be displayed in Māyāpura. Immediately ask to send to Māyāpura. And whatever books you have got already, you send them immediately. You select what books you want. Harer nama harer nama (CC Adi 17.21).
Prabhupāda: (break) ...ago, there was one Mr. Badhuri in Benares. He was a great astrologer. So he told me that from Benares the Germans have taken three books: one is Akāśa-patola, one is Kapota-vahi and his Khapoda-vahi. Khapoda-vahi, this airplane. Kha means akasa. And there is another science, kapota-vahi, to carry man by the pigeons. That is not yet displayed. Kapota-vahi. And there is another, Akasa-patola. Any, any, even your chairs you sit down; by mantra it will go on.
1976 Conversations and Morning Walks
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You know those quotations you gave from your guru mahārāja? Yesterday you wrote some quotations?
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Here is a place where they might be displayed. This is a blank place.
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes. There it should be written.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This is very prominent.
Prabhupāda: Not only there, here also.
Prabhupāda: And the whole Kuru dynasty was threatened.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Very good class of people are coming to the restaurant, businessmen, like that.
Prabhupāda: And there is book display?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, yes. Oh, yes, there's a book display.
Prabhupāda: They are purchasing book also?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Meat creates cancer of the intestines.
Rūpānuga: Actually, there have been some articles in papers lately about meat and cancer, linking meat and cancer. Prominent, prominently displayed articles.
Prabhupāda: Then why do you give milk to the children? Give him blood.
Rūpānuga: They say past a certain age...
Prabhupāda: No, no, this propaganda-milk is bad—so why from the very beginning you give milk to the children?
Prabhupāda: If they are selling, you can sell these pictures.
Rāmeśvara: I think they will sell. (break) ...popular is that at colleges they like to have art shows come where they display the paintings and then they move on to another college. So we can do that with some of our art paintings also. They will give us one hall just to hang the paintings for some time.
Prabhupāda: So many trees have come. (break) ...from stone there is grass.
Rāmeśvara: They have this one display trying to prove that..., the Darwin theory of evolution. They have these bones, and they say this proves how man was formerly like an ape or a monkey. Now he has become more civilized.
Prabhupāda: So where is Darwin's bones?
Rāmeśvara: Then they have one display showing...
Prabhupāda: No, no, Darwin got all this knowledge. His bones should be studied first, how he got so much knowledge. And from which monkey he came. By studying the bones, discover it.
Prabhupāda: Ask them to find out from which monkey the Darwin's bone has come. They may decide. Study the bones of Darwin. And spoiling public money in this way. (break)
Rāmeśvara: ...each display they have some background artwork very expertly done. Say they have a display of a tiger. They have a painting of the forest in the background, and it's very well done. They spend a lot of money, with lighting systems.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But none of the exhibits are moving. (break)
Rāmeśvara: ...for one display of the different stages of the embryo growing. So to have this display they used actual dead aborted babies. They have them mounted in the display case, the dead babies that they have killed.
Prabhupāda: Killed?
Rāmeśvara: Aborted babies. They have taken their tiny little bodies and put them in a display, so you can see the baby at two months, at four months, at six months, at eight months. Like that.
Prabhupāda: How it is growing.
Ali: Just like when there is a mutual understanding, then...
Prabhupāda: No, there must be practical display.
Ali: Practical display.
Prabhupāda: Yes, simply understanding will not do. That is not love, that is appreciation.
Prabhupāda: But everything can be dovetailed, nirbandhe kṛṣṇa sambandhe yukta-vairāgyam ucyate. Just like our Sītā-Rāma(?), she wants to do some display to help Kṛṣṇa movement. That is very good.
Guest (7): She wanted to make the money.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Guest (7): She wanted to make the money in this country. She would have the money, the richest artist in this country.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: No. Anywhere it will be... Not only flies. The birds, when they flock together, so there is no collision. And they very forcibly go like this, this, this, this, all together, but you won't find one accident. And this is Kṛṣṇa's inconceivable energy. What you can do? You cannot fly hundreds of planes at a time. There will be at least three, four accidents.
Caraṇāravindam: They have great difficulty doing these air displays. Many planes flying together, these air displays. There is so much difficulty for them. A lot of them, they have accidents. Also...
Prabhupāda: Formerly I used to see three, four, more than four flies going together. Nowadays I do not see.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: The CID is going to our life members and harassing them. They are scared of becoming our members now. Even in Chandigargh, Caitya-guru told me your books were on display in one life member's stores, he has two stores. And CID went to him and said, "Why are you displaying these books? What's your connection? Why're you helping Hare Kṛṣṇa?"
Prabhupāda: So selling books is illegal?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No, but they are just suspecting, they're so suspicious.
Prabhupāda: What is that suspicious? We have got books. We are selling.
Prabhupāda: And nice Gaura-Nitāi and Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa. And they'll prepare nice dress and pack in a box and send to our different centers. There are hundred centers. If you can dispatch at least one dozen pairs, you can make business for twelve hundred pairs. It will be very big business. And if they are displayed, people will like to purchase. It will be very good business.
Dhanañjaya: Even here. For people coming to our temple, if we have display they will purchase.
Prabhupāda: Yes. We can have our shop here. We are getting so many shops. So one shop Deity and Deity clothes and mukuṭas. Just like they have got...
Prabhupāda: The Supreme Person with full power. That is misleading. You can show a little magic, as other magicians also can show.
Pradyumna: "You can show a little magic as other magicians can also show."
Prabhupāda: But you cannot show the full magic, as Kṛṣṇa displayed or Lord Rāmacandra displayed. Therefore your claim as a full power is completely false and blasphemous.
Pradyumna: "Therefore your claim for full power is completely false..."
Prabhupāda: And blasphemous. In this way find out.
Prabhupāda: But He never claimed that "I am avatāra." But we understand from the śāstric evidence. He never claimed. Rather when He was addressed as Kṛṣṇa He blocked His ears, "You don't say like that." He never claimed. He fully displayed Himself as a devotee. Not Bhagavān. Therefore Gaurāṅgavāda is illegal. Gaurāṅga-nāgarī. That is illegal. Moha-vāda or something like that.
1977 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: When you have come?
Bhavabhūtī: Just today, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Just today from Madras. I closed the bank account there. Also I was in Madras, there's one movie playing there by the government. The name of the movie is called, "From the Indus Valley to Indira Gandhi." It's a government movie put out, and in the movie there's a picture of the Hare Kṛṣṇa devotees chanting and also a display of your books.
Prabhupāda: Acchā?
Prabhupāda: No, why? There is no need.
Gurudāsa: And we're having display, book table, membership table, and cinema is showing at night.
Prabhupāda: So how people come?
Gurudāsa: Some people come, but I think once we start our saṅkīrtana and leaflets... The mela officials said, "We put you there because you will draw, and others will not. People will want to come to you, so they will make an effort to come to you."
Prabhupāda: But there is easy way to come?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: One of the biggest bookstores in Bombay, International Book House, has arranged a whole window display of your books.
Prabhupāda: That is useless.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Many people were seeing it.
Prabhupāda: Useless. I know these men. But you can get some customers. That's all right. Do they purchase or simply display?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No. They purchase also.
Rāmeśvara: Actually in Belgium the National Museum has also set up in their main window a display of your books. And that's very good for a museum, because they do not sell there, but they are considering it so important and scholarly that they are displaying them for the public to see.
Prabhupāda: That is good recommendation, yes. If that museum is so important, so to keep our books there is prestigious. In Europe, America, it is going on nice. Now here we have to take advantage of these papers. So I have already given Jagadīśa the idea. Now you immediately put into effect. You keep that also with your papers, this format. Yes.
Rāmeśvara: Well, they're saying that the substance is different. Kṛṣṇa is one...
Prabhupāda: The substance is different; then God... There is no God. Either Kṛṣṇa is not God, Jehovah is not God. Just like gold...
Rāmeśvara: They say that because Kṛṣṇa displayed His activities when He was here...
Prabhupāda: Yes. God will play. That is God. God is not dead. Your God is dead. Our God is alive. That is the difference. God must be alive. Why God should be dead? (break) So you are under God's control. Then you say whether Jehovah is God or Kṛṣṇa is God. First of all you must know. You must let us know what do you mean by God.
Prabhupāda: So God has to deal with so many rascals, fools, in this material world. Sometimes He displays His pastime like that. Therefore who will understand? Only the devotees will understand. So you do not understand Kṛṣṇa. We are devotees of Kṛṣṇa. We know the secret. To keep you perpetually in darkness, He manifested such līlā that He is dead, finish. Just like the idol-breaker. They think, "Now their Kṛṣṇa is finished. We have broken." During Hindu-Muslim riot they do that. They break their mosque, and they break their temple and idol also.
Prabhupāda: So things are going nice?
Yugadharma: Yes, very nice. Everybody was very satisfied.
Prabhupāda: And building?
Yugadharma: Building is going on very well also. They say the front of the Gurukula will be finished by the time the devotees come, at least partial. Dhanañjaya will have one store opened so the devotees can buy, purchase paraphernalia so they won't go into town and make an array, a display of lakṣmī like that. They are setting it up very nicely.
Prabhupāda: The mūrtis are made nice?
Yugadharma: Oh, yes. Very nice. This Spanish artist is very, very first-class, very first-class.
Prabhupāda: It is locally molded?
Rādhā-vallabha: We also calculated how many hardbound Bhāgavatams are in print. That's one million. And there's almost three million Gītās in print too.
Prabhupāda: So this should be displayed here.
Rādhā-vallabha: That... We have one big framed stat showing the English. You have five or six books that have over one million copies in print.
Prabhupāda: All very aristocratic, very aristocratic. What is aristocracy, that is displayed there.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Those people, they always used to look from the outside in, but they were never allowed to come in. The people from that neighborhood, they used to stare within, wondering what is inside there. Now, since we have come, we have opened our gates and doors and said, "Please come." Oh, they're very much happy to come in and see us there.
Prabhupāda: They're grave. They behave very nicely.
Prabhupāda: Jaya Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma. Who has got strength like Balarāma? Balarāma, He can do everything by His strength. We are depending on Him, Balarāma. He can please everyone, and He has got immense strength to do anything He likes. Jaya Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma. Now these sakhīs, aṣṭa-sakhī, there is no instance we have displayed. Why they should be kept inside? Only one man should be under a cloud(?), in an upturned (indistinct).
Prabhupāda: ...by good association. This is the result of our movement. (break) (Bengali)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bhakti-caru? Should I call for him?
Prabhupāda: Hmm... Such nice color display, and there is no brain. The animal-killer civilization, Western country, has killed all their brain, good sense, good sentiment, everything.