This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Buddhir buddhimatām asmi tejas tejasvinām aham. One who is very influential, that influence is Kṛṣṇa. That influence, that particular influence of a particular man, that is also Kṛṣṇa. Balaṁ balavatāṁ cāham. And one is very strong, stout and strong, that particular strength is also Kṛṣṇa. Just like an elephant is very strong. And more than elephant, the gorilla is still more strong.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:BG 7.11|BG 7.11, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">I am the strength of the strong, devoid of passion and desire. I am sex life which is not contrary to religious principles, O lord of the Bhāratas (Arjuna).</p> | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:BG 7.11 (1972)|BG 7.11, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">I am the strength of the strong, devoid of passion and desire. I am sex life which is not contrary to religious principles, O lord of the Bhāratas (Arjuna).</p> | ||
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<div class="purport text"><p>The strong man's strength should be applied to protect the weak, not for personal aggression. Similarly, sex life, according to religious principles (dharma), should be for the propagation of children, not otherwise. The responsibility of parents is then to make their offspring Kṛṣṇa conscious.</p> | <div class="purport text"><p>The strong man's strength should be applied to protect the weak, not for personal aggression. Similarly, sex life, according to religious principles (dharma), should be for the propagation of children, not otherwise. The responsibility of parents is then to make their offspring Kṛṣṇa conscious.</p> | ||
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam" class="section" sec_index="1" parent="compilation" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam"><h2>Srimad-Bhagavatam</h2> | |||
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<div id="SB_Canto_3" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 3"><h3>SB Canto 3</h3> | |||
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<div id="SB31438_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_3" book="SB" index="568" link="SB 3.14.38" link_text="SB 3.14.38"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.14.38|SB 3.14.38, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">The learned Kaśyapa said: Because of your mind's being polluted, because of defilement of the particular time, because of your negligence of my directions, and because of your being apathetic to the demigods, everything was inauspicious.</p> | |||
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<div class="purport text"><p>The conditions for having good progeny in society are that the husband should be disciplined in religious and regulative principles and the wife should be faithful to the husband. In Bhagavad-gītā ([[Vanisource:BG 7.11 (1972)|BG 7.11]]) it is said that sexual intercourse according to religious principles is a representation of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Before engaging in sexual intercourse, both the husband and the wife must consider their mental condition, the particular time, the husband's direction, and obedience to the demigods. According to Vedic society, there is a suitable auspicious time for sex life, which is called the time for garbhādhāna.</p> | |||
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<div id="SB_Canto_5" class="sub_section" sec_index="5" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 5"><h3>SB Canto 5</h3> | |||
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<div id="SB5149_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_5" book="SB" index="319" link="SB 5.14.9" link_text="SB 5.14.9"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 5.14.9|SB 5.14.9, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">In Bhagavad-gītā (7.11) it is said: dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha. Sex is allowed only for the begetting of children, not for enjoyment. One can indulge in sex to beget a good child for the benefit of the family, society and world. Otherwise, sex is against the rules and regulations of religious life. A materialistic person does not believe that everything is managed in nature, and he does not know that if one does something wrong, he is witnessed by different demigods.</p> | |||
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<div id="SB_Canto_6" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 6"><h3>SB Canto 6</h3> | |||
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<div id="SB6452_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_6" book="SB" index="186" link="SB 6.4.52" link_text="SB 6.4.52"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 6.4.52|SB 6.4.52, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Now unite in sexual life as man and woman, and in this way, by sexual intercourse, you will be able to beget hundreds of children in the womb of this girl to increase the population.</p> | |||
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<div class="purport text"><p>The Lord says in Bhagavad-gītā ([[Vanisource:BG 7.11 (1972)|BG 7.11]]), dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi: "I am sex that is not contrary to religious principles." Sexual intercourse ordained by the Supreme Personality of Godhead is dharma, a religious principle, but it is not intended for sense enjoyment. Indulgence in sense enjoyment through sexual intercourse is not allowed by the Vedic principles. One may follow the natural tendency for sex life only to beget children. Therefore the Lord told Dakṣa in this verse, "This girl is offered to you only for sex life to beget children, not for any other purpose. She is very fertile, and therefore you will be able to have as many children as you can beget."</p> | |||
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<div id="SB_Canto_7" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 7"><h3>SB Canto 7</h3> | |||
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<div id="SB71211_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_7" book="SB" index="519" link="SB 7.12.11" link_text="SB 7.12.11"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 7.12.11|SB 7.12.11, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">This is a wrong conception of gṛhastha life. In spiritual life, whether one is a gṛhastha, vānaprastha, sannyāsī or brahmacārī, everyone is under the control of the spiritual master. For brahmacārīs and sannyāsīs there are strong restrictions on sexual indulgence. Similarly, there are strong restrictions for gṛhasthas. Gṛhasthas should indulge in sex life only in accordance with the order of the guru. Therefore it is mentioned here that one must follow the orders of the spiritual master (guru-vṛttir vikalpena). When the spiritual master orders, the gṛhastha may accept sex life. This is confirmed in Bhagavad-gītā (7.11). Dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi: indulgence in sex life without disobedience to the religious rules and regulations constitutes a religious principle.</p> | |||
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<div id="SB71326_1" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_7" book="SB" index="560" link="SB 7.13.26" link_text="SB 7.13.26"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 7.13.26|SB 7.13.26, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">As stated by Prahlāda Mahārāja, yan maithunādi-gṛhamedhi-sukhaṁ hi tuccham ([[Vanisource:SB 7.9.45|SB 7.9.45]]). Man and woman both seek sexual enjoyment, and when they are united by the ritualistic ceremony of marriage, they are happy for some time, but finally there is dissension, and thus there are so many cases of separation and divorce. Although every man and woman is actually eager to enjoy life through sexual unity, the result is disunity and distress. Marriage is recommended to give men and women a concession for restricted sex life, which is also recommended in Bhagavad-gītā by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi: sex life not against the principles of religion is Kṛṣṇa. Every living entity is always eager to enjoy sex life because materialistic life consists of eating, sleeping, sex and fear. In animal life, eating, sleeping, sexual enjoyment and fear cannot be regulated, but for human society the plan is that although men, like animals, must be allowed to eat, sleep, enjoy sex and take protection from fear, they must be regulated. The Vedic plan for eating recommends that one take yajña-śiṣṭa, or prasāda, food offered to Kṛṣṇa.</p> | |||
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<div id="SB_Canto_9" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 9"><h3>SB Canto 9</h3> | |||
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<div id="SB91832_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_9" book="SB" index="635" link="SB 9.18.32" link_text="SB 9.18.32"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 9.18.32|SB 9.18.32, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">King Yayāti was completely aware of the duty of a kṣatriya. When a kṣatriya is approached by a woman, he cannot deny her. This is a religious principle. Consequently, when Dharmarāja, Yudhiṣṭhira, saw Arjuna unhappy after Arjuna returned from Dvārakā, he asked whether Arjuna had refused a woman who had begged for a son. Although Mahārāja Yayāti remembered Śukrācārya's warning, he could not refuse Śarmiṣṭhā. He thought it wise to give her a son, and thus he had sexual intercourse with her after her menstrual period. This kind of lust is not against religious principles. As stated in Bhagavad-gītā (7.11), dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi: sex life not contrary to the principles of religion is sanctioned by Kṛṣṇa. Because Śarmiṣṭhā, the daughter of a king, had begged Yayāti for a son, their combination was not lust but an act of religion.</p> | |||
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<div id="SB_Canto_101_to_1013" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 10.1 to 10.13"><h3>SB Canto 10.1 to 10.13</h3> | |||
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<div id="SB10333_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_10.1_to_10.13" book="SB" index="130" link="SB 10.3.33" link_text="SB 10.3.33"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 10.3.33|SB 10.3.33, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">According to Vedic civilization, procreation should not be contrary to religious principles, and then the birthrate will be controlled. As stated in Bhagavad-gītā (7.11), dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo'smi: sex not contrary to religious principles is a representation of the Supreme Lord. People should be educated in how to give birth to good children through saṁskāras, beginning with the garbhādhāna-saṁskāra; birth should not be controlled by artificial means, for this will lead to a civilization of animals. If one follows religious principles, he automatically practices birth control because if one is spiritually educated he knows that the after-effects of sex are various types of misery (bahu-duḥkha-bhāja).</p> | |||
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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2> | |||
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG7814NewYorkOctober21966_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="277" link="Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966|Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Buddhir buddhimatām asmi tejas tejasvinām aham. One who is very influential, that influence is Kṛṣṇa. That influence, that particular influence of a particular man, that is also Kṛṣṇa. Balaṁ balavatāṁ cāham. And one is very strong, stout and strong, that particular strength is also Kṛṣṇa. Just like an elephant is very strong. And more than elephant, the gorilla is still more strong.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG7814NewYorkOctober21966_1" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="277" link="Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966|Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Bhīma had strength ten thousand times than an elephant. He was so strong. There is no question of not believing. Because as I find that you are stronger than me and he is stronger than you, oh, similarly, there are many degrees of strength. Now, these degrees of strength is Kṛṣṇa. So you can understand Kṛṣṇa. Without Kṛṣṇa's favor, nobody can be stronger than the others. So balaṁ balavatām asmi.</p> | |||
<p>Kāma-rāga-vivarjitam. Kāma. Kāma means desire. Rāga-vivarjitam, without attraction. Desire without attraction, that is Kṛṣṇa. Desire without attraction, how it can be possible? Desire with attraction. Whenever we desire something... I want some young girl, I desire. Desire means I have got attraction. But desire without attraction, how it is possible? Can you explain? Yes. Desire without attraction means Kṛṣṇa consciousness. I desire for Kṛṣṇa's benefit, not for my benefit. That is desire without attraction.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG7814NewYorkOctober21966_2" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="277" link="Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966|Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So </p> | |||
:kāma-rāga-vivarjitam | |||
:Kāma-rāga-vivarjitam, | |||
:dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu | |||
:kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha. | |||
<p>"And lust, lust which is not against religious principles, that is also I am." What is that lust? Lust means, generally means, sex, sex life. Sex life which is not against religious principles, that is Kṛṣṇa. How it is religious principle, sex life? Yes. Sex life is religious principle in this way, that when you want a good child, in that sense, if you undertake sex life, that is sanctioned. That is religion.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG7814NewYorkOctober21966_3" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="277" link="Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966|Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">If you can produce a good child, you can have thousand times sexual intercourse, but if you produce cats and dogs, don't take. That is irreligious. So here it is stated that dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu. Therefore, for sex life, dharma is marriage. In the human society there is marriage. In the animal society there is no marriage. They indulge in sex life any way, because they are animals.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG7814NewYorkOctober21966_4" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="277" link="Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966|Lecture on BG 7.8-14 -- New York, October 2, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So far India is concerned, that is a different thing. In America also, I find so many American gentlemen, they read Bhagavad-gītā. But I am afraid if they are reading Bhagavad-gītā so scrutinizingly, as it is stated here, dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha: "Sex life which is not against religious principle, that is I am." So in, I mean to say, regulated sex life, married life, that is Kṛṣṇa. So that is not without Kṛṣṇa. That is Kṛṣṇa.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG71112BombayFebruary251974_5" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="280" link="Lecture on BG 7.11-12 -- Bombay, February 25, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.11-12 -- Bombay, February 25, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.11-12 -- Bombay, February 25, 1974|Lecture on BG 7.11-12 -- Bombay, February 25, 1974]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)</p> | |||
:balaṁ balavatāṁ cāhaṁ | |||
:kāma-rāga-vivarjitam | |||
:dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu | |||
:kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha | |||
<p>Translation: "I am the strength of the strong, devoid of passion and desire. I am sex life which is not contrary to religious principles, O Lord of the Bhāratas, Arjuna."</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Next śloka also.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG71112BombayFebruary251974_6" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="280" link="Lecture on BG 7.11-12 -- Bombay, February 25, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.11-12 -- Bombay, February 25, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.11-12 -- Bombay, February 25, 1974|Lecture on BG 7.11-12 -- Bombay, February 25, 1974]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda:</p> | |||
:balaṁ balavatāṁ cāhaṁ | |||
:kāma-rāga-vivarjitam | |||
:dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu | |||
:kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha | |||
<p>Kṛṣṇa is explaining everything, how you can become Kṛṣṇa conscious twenty-four hours. The one process is, as recommended by Caitanya Mahāprabhu,</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG71112BombayFebruary251974_7" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="280" link="Lecture on BG 7.11-12 -- Bombay, February 25, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.11-12 -- Bombay, February 25, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.11-12 -- Bombay, February 25, 1974|Lecture on BG 7.11-12 -- Bombay, February 25, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This is life. Human life is meant for this purpose. Kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ. We require something to eat because we have got this body. So minimizing the bodily enjoyments... Bodily enjoyment means... Or necessities. When you use bodily necessities in excessive proportion, that is called kāma. Otherwise, to satisfy the bodily necessities, that is not kāma. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says that kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha. Dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu. Dharma aviruddha. The religion, religion means regulation. Dharmaṁ tu sākṣād bhagavat-praṇītam ([[Vanisource:SB 6.3.19|SB 6.3.19]]). Everything has got regulation. Just like in our ordinary life, we get license. Even a man is keeping a wine shop—that is not good thing—but he must take license, regulation. The whole śāstra means regulation. Śāstra. The word śāstra has come from śās-dhātu. Śās-dhātu means ruling, controlling. So from śās-dhātu, the śāsana has come, government ruling. And śāstra has come. And śastra has come. Śastra means weapon.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG71112BombayFebruary251974_8" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="280" link="Lecture on BG 7.11-12 -- Bombay, February 25, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.11-12 -- Bombay, February 25, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.11-12 -- Bombay, February 25, 1974|Lecture on BG 7.11-12 -- Bombay, February 25, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore Kṛṣṇa says that dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha. Who is following the, strictly the regulative principles, even in sex life he can see Kṛṣṇa. Which is considered abominable, but even in sex life, if you are following the rules and regulations, you can see Kṛṣṇa. Therefore when such sons are begotten, they become devotees of Kṛṣṇa. Therefore according to Hindu principles, there is garbhādhāna-saṁskāra, ten kinds of saṁskāras, reformative measures. So the sex life should be also open to the saṁskāra. It is a saṁskāra.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG71113BombayApril51971_9" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="281" link="Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971|Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare. Ladies and gentlemen, I thank you very much for your participating in this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. So yesterday we were discussing this verse,</p> | |||
:balaṁ balavatāṁ cāhaṁ | |||
:kāma-rāga-vivarjitam | |||
:dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu | |||
:kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha | |||
<p>Dharma-aviruddha. Dharma-aviruddha, the meaning of dharma-aviruddha, "illegal, illicit," "against the laws of God." Dharma means the laws of God, and anything against the laws of God, that is called dharmāviruddho... Dharma-viruddha and dharma-aviruddha. Yes. Viruddha means against, and aviruddha means not against, in favor.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG71113BombayApril51971_10" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="281" link="Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971|Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore it is śāstra. Or anyone who writes in terms of the śāstra, that is right direction. If we speak Bhagavad-gītā as Kṛṣṇa desires, then it is nice. And if we describe Bhagavad-gītā to fulfill our ulterior motives for some purpose, then it is useless. So similarly, Kṛṣṇa said, dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha. Those who are not following the principles, how to beget child, or not observing the garbhādhāna-saṁskāra—according to śāstra, immediately the family becomes converted into śūdra. No more brāhmaṇa, no more kṣatriya, if he does not follow. This is very easy to understand. If you do something illegally, against the law, immediately you become a criminal. Similarly, dharmāviruddha. The garbhādhāna-saṁskāra has to be observed. Otherwise we become śūdra, no more brāhmaṇa, no more kṣatriya.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonBG71116NewYorkOctober71966_11" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="282" link="Lecture on BG 7.11-16 -- New York, October 7, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.11-16 -- New York, October 7, 1966"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.11-16 -- New York, October 7, 1966|Lecture on BG 7.11-16 -- New York, October 7, 1966]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda:</p> | |||
:balaṁ balavatāṁ cāhaṁ | |||
:kāma-rāga-vivarjitam | |||
:dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu | |||
:kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha | |||
<p>Now, this particular verse we were discussing last day, that lust or sex desire on the principles of religiosity is Kṛṣṇa. This point we have discussed very elaborately, you may remember, that so far necessities of this body are concerned, that is allowed, but in a regulated form.</p> | |||
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB122RomeMay261974_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="20" link="Lecture on SB 1.2.2 -- Rome, May 26, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.2.2 -- Rome, May 26, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.2.2 -- Rome, May 26, 1974|Lecture on SB 1.2.2 -- Rome, May 26, 1974]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So read it.</p> | |||
<p>Nitāi:</p> | |||
:balaṁ balavatāṁ cāhaṁ | |||
:kāma-rāga-vivarjitam | |||
:dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu | |||
:kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Dharmāviruddha?</p> | |||
<p>Nitāi: Dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh.</p> | |||
<p>Nitāi: Kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Read the...</p> | |||
<p>Nitāi: "I am the strength of the strong, devoid of passion and desire. I am sex life which is not contrary to religious principles, O lord of the Bhāratas."</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. This sex life, garbhādhāna-saṁskāra... This is called garbhādhāna-saṁskāra, just to beget first-class children. That kind of sex life, Kṛṣṇa says, "I am that sex life." This is saṁskāra. So formerly, at least those who were on the higher status of the society, namely the brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, and vaiśyas, they had to observe this garbhādhāna-saṁskāra. It is not a secret thing. Because one is going to beget child, so the child must be worth, a human being, Therefore there is saṁ... First of all, the garbhādhāna-saṁskāra. Then, when the wife is pregnant, there are other saṁskāras. Then upanayana-saṁskāra, vivāha-saṁskāra, up to the point of death. From before birth and up to the point of death, there are saṁskāras.</p> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB213VrndavanaMarch181974_1" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="362" link="Lecture on SB 2.1.3 -- Vrndavana, March 18, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 2.1.3 -- Vrndavana, March 18, 1974"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 2.1.3 -- Vrndavana, March 18, 1974|Lecture on SB 2.1.3 -- Vrndavana, March 18, 1974]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So therefore, for charity householders required. You cannot condemn householders.</p> | |||
<p>Akṣayānanda: We do not condemn the householders, though. All of Lord Caitanya's, many of His followers were householders, and He encouraged them to progress in devotional life. Kṛṣṇa says, dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu, "I am householder life within the religious principles." In that way, Kṛṣṇa consciousness is for everyone. It is not restricted to sannyāsīs or brahmacārīs or persons who are celibate, but to all persons who follow the principles that are set down in Bhagavad-gītā and the śāstras.</p> | |||
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<div id="Philosophy_Discussions" class="sub_section" sec_index="13" parent="Lectures" text="Philosophy Discussions"><h3>Philosophy Discussions</h3> | |||
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononSigmundFreud_0" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="17" link="Philosophy Discussion on Sigmund Freud" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Sigmund Freud"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Sigmund Freud|Philosophy Discussion on Sigmund Freud]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That is our brahmācārya system. The psychology is that everyone has a sex appetite, everyone has a tendency for intoxication, and everyone had a tendency for meat-eating. Vyavāya āmiṣa madya sevā. These tendencies are already there. There is injunction in the śāstras that one can have sexual intercourse by marriage, legal sex. We are prohibiting illicit sex, but we are not prohibiting legal sex. Just like in the Bhagavad-gītā Kṛṣṇa says, dharmāviruddho' bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha, sex indulgence which is not against religious principles. That is (indistinct). So religious principle means regulated sex life. People have a tendency...</p> | |||
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> | |||
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch311974Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="50" link="Morning Walk -- March 31, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 31, 1974, Bombay"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 31, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 31, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Mr. Sar: Where does he get the strength from? Strength is Kṛṣṇa.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: That is Kṛṣṇa.</p> | |||
<p>Dr. Patel: Kāma-rāga-vivarjitaḥ.</p> | |||
<p>Mr. Sar: Dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha. That is a very important... Dharma aviruddhaḥ.</p> | |||
<p>Dr. Patel: This... Please explain that.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Dharma aviruddho. Dharma aviruddho means putrārthe kriyate bhāryā. Putrārthe bhāryā. Wife is accepted only for getting son, not for sexual intercourse. Putrārthe kriyate bhāryā. So when you have sex life simply for generating good son, that is Kṛṣṇa. And if you want to enjoy your senses, that is pāpa.</p> | |||
<p>Mr. Sar: That's correct.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationJune201974Germany_1" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="125" link="Room Conversation -- June 20, 1974, Germany" link_text="Room Conversation -- June 20, 1974, Germany"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- June 20, 1974, Germany|Room Conversation -- June 20, 1974, Germany]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Devotee: ...kāma-rāja-vivarjitam, dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm.</p> | |||
<p>Devotee: (reads translation to Bg. 7.11 in German)</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Sex life, married couple, that is alright, not otherwise, that is sinful.</p> | |||
<p>Devotee: Śrīla Prabhupāda, just this objection was that in this statement of Bhagavad-gītā doesn't clearly say no reason you should not have sex life outside of married life, they say they state religious principles, but this is...</p> | |||
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationwithAlcoholandDrugHospitalPeopleMay161975Perth_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="76" link="Room Conversation with Alcohol and Drug Hospital People -- May 16, 1975, Perth" link_text="Room Conversation with Alcohol and Drug Hospital People -- May 16, 1975, Perth"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Alcohol and Drug Hospital People -- May 16, 1975, Perth|Room Conversation with Alcohol and Drug Hospital People -- May 16, 1975, Perth]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: There is in Bhagavad-gītā, that dharmāviruddhaḥ kāmo 'smi. Find out. You can come here and read.</p> | |||
<p>Paramahaṁsa: Which was that? Dharma...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Dharmāviruddhaḥ kāmo 'smi.</p> | |||
<p>Paramahaṁsa: Dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: No, dharmāviruddhaḥ kāmo 'smi. Dharma-aviruddha. You know that verse.</p> | |||
<p>Paramahaṁsa: Is that balaṁ balavatāṁ cāham?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Ah, yes, yes, yes.</p> | |||
<p>Paramahaṁsa:</p> | |||
:balaṁ balavatāṁ cāhaṁ | |||
:kāma-rāga-vivarjitam | |||
:dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu | |||
:kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha | |||
<p>Translation: "I am the strength of the strong, devoid of passion and desire. I am sex life which is not contrary to religious principles, O Lord of the Bhāratas, Arjuna."</p> | |||
<p>Guest (1): You can follow actually? What does that exactly mean? It's a direct translation, I think.</p> | |||
<p>Paramahaṁsa: He says, "What does that exactly mean?"</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Explain to him.</p> | |||
<p>Paramahaṁsa: Well, as it explains here, "The strong man's strength should be applied to protect the weak, not for personal aggression. Similarly, sex life, according to religious principles, dharma, should be for the propagation of children, not otherwise. The responsibility of parents is then to make their offspring Kṛṣṇa conscious."</p> | |||
<p>Guest (2): The question was which religion, which religious principle?</p> | |||
<p>Paramahaṁsa: Well, he means our marriage under... We accept that marriage, sex life in marriage, is licit, not illicit. So he asked, "Under what religious principles or under which religion?"</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Any religion. Christian religion does not allow illicit sex. No adultery.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationwithJesuitMay191975Melbourne_1" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="81" link="Room Conversation with Jesuit -- May 19, 1975, Melbourne" link_text="Room Conversation with Jesuit -- May 19, 1975, Melbourne"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Jesuit -- May 19, 1975, Melbourne|Room Conversation with Jesuit -- May 19, 1975, Melbourne]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Jesuit: Therefore sex, in itself, is good.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Sex is good, that is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā, dharmāviruddhaḥ kāmo 'smi. Find out, balaṁ balavatām asmi dharma..., like that.</p> | |||
<p>Devotee:</p> | |||
:balaṁ balavatāṁ cāhaṁ | |||
:kāma-rāga-vivarjitam | |||
:dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu | |||
:kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha | |||
<p>"I am the strength of the strong, devoid of passion and desire. I am sex life which is not contrary to religious principles, O lord of the Bhāratas."</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Just see.</p> | |||
<p>Jesuit: What is this book?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: This is Bhagavad-gītā. He is speaking, the God is speaking.</p> | |||
<p>Jesuit: OK.</p> | |||
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="EveningDarsanaAugust121976Tehran_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="258" link="Evening Darsana -- August 12, 1976, Tehran" link_text="Evening Darsana -- August 12, 1976, Tehran"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Evening Darsana -- August 12, 1976, Tehran|Evening Darsana -- August 12, 1976, Tehran]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Of hymns I am the Bṛhat-sāma sung to the Lord Indra, and of poetry I am the Gāyatrī verse, sung daily by brāhmaṇas. Of months I am November and December, and of seasons I am flower-bearing spring. I am also the gambling of cheats, and of the splendid I am the splendor. I am victory, I am adventure, and I am the strength of the strong. Of the descendants of Vṛṣṇi I am Vāsudeva, and of the Pāṇḍavas I am Arjuna. Of the sages I am Vyāsa, and among great thinkers I am Uśanā. Among punishments I am the rod of chastisement, and of those who seek victory, I am morality. Of secret things I am silence, and of the wise I am wisdom.</p> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationwithIndianManDecember221976Poona_1" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="349" link="Room Conversation with Indian Man -- December 22, 1976, Poona" link_text="Room Conversation with Indian Man -- December 22, 1976, Poona"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Indian Man -- December 22, 1976, Poona|Room Conversation with Indian Man -- December 22, 1976, Poona]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Well, it is just like there is a school. The school is also advertising that you come here, you will get education. And one who is in need of education, he is also trying to come to school. So the school must be bona fide and the student must be bona fide. Then things will come at. If the school is bogus, then what the student will learn? They will not learn.</p> | |||
<p>Girirāja: Dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Ah, that's it. What does that mean?</p> | |||
<p>Girirāja: "I am the strength of the strong, devoid of passion and desire. I am sex life which is not contrary to religious principles."</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: There is good sex life and bad sex life. One who does not know what is good sex life, what is bad sex life, he's a rascal. Here you have to indulge in sex life which is not against the religious principles. But you must know what is religious and what is irreligious. If you do not know, you are rascal. There are two kinds of sex life. Otherwise, why Kṛṣṇa says, "Sex life which is not against the religious principles, that I am." So God is good. So sex life which is not against the religious principles, that is good sex life. Otherwise, it is bad.</p> | |||
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationMay81977Hrishikesh_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="163" link="Room Conversation -- May 8, 1977, Hrishikesh" link_text="Room Conversation -- May 8, 1977, Hrishikesh"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- May 8, 1977, Hrishikesh|Room Conversation -- May 8, 1977, Hrishikesh]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: "Phat! Phat! Phat! Phat!" But still, he goes. Bahu-duḥkha-bhājaḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 7.9.45|SB 7.9.45]]). It begins with kicking. The cats also, they (makes cat noise:) "Eeeyow!" They have come for sex, but the female cat will show some prestige and... Then sex. If she does not like, why she has come? (laughter) But they show some prestigious position. Then (makes cat noise:) "Eeyenh!" This is the central point of material happiness. Therefore we cannot allow within our temples now such sex. That is not possible. We are condemning the sex life, and we cannot accommodate.</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That boy who was speaking to you that evening quoted that Kṛṣṇa says, kāmo 'smi bhāratarṣabha.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Kāmo 'smi, that should be. That kāma is not that, that whenever they like, have sex and then go away. That is his kāma . Once you have sex life and the woman first of all debauches like... You have to make it public that "I am going to have garbhādhāna-saṁskāra." It is not a secret thing. It is a ceremony. And then, when she is pregnant, no more sex. No more sex means so long the child is there, ten months, and unless the child is grown up at least six months, no sex. That means once you have sex and then abstain for sixteen months. You know what is that dharma? So who is such a foolish man that for once having sex and then abstaining...? Therefore those who could not abstain, they used to keep many wives.</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, I mean, what is the purpose of... A man is foolish because he's attracted by sex life, but even in marriage...</p> | |||
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<div id="Correspondence" class="section" sec_index="6" parent="compilation" text="Correspondence"><h2>Correspondence</h2> | |||
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<div id="1972_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Correspondence" text="1972 Correspondence"><h3>1972 Correspondence</h3> | |||
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<div id="LettertoSriGovindaBombay25December1972_0" class="quote" parent="1972_Correspondence" book="Let" index="636" link="Letter to Sri Govinda -- Bombay 25 December, 1972" link_text="Letter to Sri Govinda -- Bombay 25 December, 1972"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Sri Govinda -- Bombay 25 December, 1972|Letter to Sri Govinda -- Bombay 25 December, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore, in fact, it is a society of weak men—everyone is weak before Durga Devi or the material energy. If you see sometimes her picture, the foolish materialist is being held by the claws of her tiger-carrier, while she pierces him to death with her trident weapon. She has got ten arms, each with weapon, she is so strong, but we are so weak that simply by piercing with her trident, the three-fold miseries, adhibhautika, adhidaivika, and adhyatmika, the foolish materialists are all defeated! And before Krishna, Durga devi is very weak—Krishna is the controller of Durga. So Krishna is the strongest: sattyam sattvavatam aham, "I am the strength of the strong." Therefore, being weak, it is the eternal occupational duty of the living entity to surrender to Krishna, that's all. In the surrendering to Krishna, if everyone does it, still, the brahmanas will be served by the lower castes, the kings will be served by vaisyas and sudras, the vaisyas will be served by the sudras, and the sudras will serve all higher castes—there is still utilizing the weak by the strong—but feeling themselves always very much weak in comparison to Krishna, the whole society services the Strongest, therefore there will be no envy of the stronger by the weaker class of men.</p> | |||
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<div id="1977_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="12" parent="Correspondence" text="1977 Correspondence"><h3>1977 Correspondence</h3> | |||
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<div id="LettertoTikandasBatraBombay3January1977_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Correspondence" book="Let" index="4" link="Letter to Tikandas Batra -- Bombay 3 January, 1977" link_text="Letter to Tikandas Batra -- Bombay 3 January, 1977"> | |||
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Tikandas Batra -- Bombay 3 January, 1977|Letter to Tikandas Batra -- Bombay 3 January, 1977]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">In answer to your questions, sastra says that only for progeny there should be sex, otherwise no sex, "dharmaviruddho bhutesu kamo 'smi." No "indriyartha," for sense gratification there should be no sex. But, this sterilization is for sense gratification. That is most sinful. The Indian government is becoming demonic because those who elect the government are becoming demonic.</p> | |||
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Latest revision as of 17:00, 15 May 2018
Expressions researched:
"I am sex life which is not contrary to religious principles"
|"I am the strength of the strong"
|"balam balavatam caham"
|"bhutenu"
|"devoid of passion and desire"
|"dharmaviruddho bhutesu"
|"dharmaviruddho"
|"kama-raga-vivarjitam"
|"kamo 'smi bharatarsabha"
Bhagavad-gita As It Is
BG Chapters 7 - 12
I am the strength of the strong, devoid of passion and desire. I am sex life which is not contrary to religious principles, O lord of the Bhāratas (Arjuna).
The strong man's strength should be applied to protect the weak, not for personal aggression. Similarly, sex life, according to religious principles (dharma), should be for the propagation of children, not otherwise. The responsibility of parents is then to make their offspring Kṛṣṇa conscious.
Srimad-Bhagavatam
SB Canto 3
The learned Kaśyapa said: Because of your mind's being polluted, because of defilement of the particular time, because of your negligence of my directions, and because of your being apathetic to the demigods, everything was inauspicious.
The conditions for having good progeny in society are that the husband should be disciplined in religious and regulative principles and the wife should be faithful to the husband. In Bhagavad-gītā (BG 7.11) it is said that sexual intercourse according to religious principles is a representation of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Before engaging in sexual intercourse, both the husband and the wife must consider their mental condition, the particular time, the husband's direction, and obedience to the demigods. According to Vedic society, there is a suitable auspicious time for sex life, which is called the time for garbhādhāna.
SB Canto 5
In Bhagavad-gītā (7.11) it is said: dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha. Sex is allowed only for the begetting of children, not for enjoyment. One can indulge in sex to beget a good child for the benefit of the family, society and world. Otherwise, sex is against the rules and regulations of religious life. A materialistic person does not believe that everything is managed in nature, and he does not know that if one does something wrong, he is witnessed by different demigods.
SB Canto 6
Now unite in sexual life as man and woman, and in this way, by sexual intercourse, you will be able to beget hundreds of children in the womb of this girl to increase the population.
The Lord says in Bhagavad-gītā (BG 7.11), dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi: "I am sex that is not contrary to religious principles." Sexual intercourse ordained by the Supreme Personality of Godhead is dharma, a religious principle, but it is not intended for sense enjoyment. Indulgence in sense enjoyment through sexual intercourse is not allowed by the Vedic principles. One may follow the natural tendency for sex life only to beget children. Therefore the Lord told Dakṣa in this verse, "This girl is offered to you only for sex life to beget children, not for any other purpose. She is very fertile, and therefore you will be able to have as many children as you can beget."
SB Canto 7
This is a wrong conception of gṛhastha life. In spiritual life, whether one is a gṛhastha, vānaprastha, sannyāsī or brahmacārī, everyone is under the control of the spiritual master. For brahmacārīs and sannyāsīs there are strong restrictions on sexual indulgence. Similarly, there are strong restrictions for gṛhasthas. Gṛhasthas should indulge in sex life only in accordance with the order of the guru. Therefore it is mentioned here that one must follow the orders of the spiritual master (guru-vṛttir vikalpena). When the spiritual master orders, the gṛhastha may accept sex life. This is confirmed in Bhagavad-gītā (7.11). Dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi: indulgence in sex life without disobedience to the religious rules and regulations constitutes a religious principle.
As stated by Prahlāda Mahārāja, yan maithunādi-gṛhamedhi-sukhaṁ hi tuccham (SB 7.9.45). Man and woman both seek sexual enjoyment, and when they are united by the ritualistic ceremony of marriage, they are happy for some time, but finally there is dissension, and thus there are so many cases of separation and divorce. Although every man and woman is actually eager to enjoy life through sexual unity, the result is disunity and distress. Marriage is recommended to give men and women a concession for restricted sex life, which is also recommended in Bhagavad-gītā by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi: sex life not against the principles of religion is Kṛṣṇa. Every living entity is always eager to enjoy sex life because materialistic life consists of eating, sleeping, sex and fear. In animal life, eating, sleeping, sexual enjoyment and fear cannot be regulated, but for human society the plan is that although men, like animals, must be allowed to eat, sleep, enjoy sex and take protection from fear, they must be regulated. The Vedic plan for eating recommends that one take yajña-śiṣṭa, or prasāda, food offered to Kṛṣṇa.
SB Canto 9
King Yayāti was completely aware of the duty of a kṣatriya. When a kṣatriya is approached by a woman, he cannot deny her. This is a religious principle. Consequently, when Dharmarāja, Yudhiṣṭhira, saw Arjuna unhappy after Arjuna returned from Dvārakā, he asked whether Arjuna had refused a woman who had begged for a son. Although Mahārāja Yayāti remembered Śukrācārya's warning, he could not refuse Śarmiṣṭhā. He thought it wise to give her a son, and thus he had sexual intercourse with her after her menstrual period. This kind of lust is not against religious principles. As stated in Bhagavad-gītā (7.11), dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi: sex life not contrary to the principles of religion is sanctioned by Kṛṣṇa. Because Śarmiṣṭhā, the daughter of a king, had begged Yayāti for a son, their combination was not lust but an act of religion.
SB Canto 10.1 to 10.13
According to Vedic civilization, procreation should not be contrary to religious principles, and then the birthrate will be controlled. As stated in Bhagavad-gītā (7.11), dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo'smi: sex not contrary to religious principles is a representation of the Supreme Lord. People should be educated in how to give birth to good children through saṁskāras, beginning with the garbhādhāna-saṁskāra; birth should not be controlled by artificial means, for this will lead to a civilization of animals. If one follows religious principles, he automatically practices birth control because if one is spiritually educated he knows that the after-effects of sex are various types of misery (bahu-duḥkha-bhāja).
Lectures
Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures
Bhīma had strength ten thousand times than an elephant. He was so strong. There is no question of not believing. Because as I find that you are stronger than me and he is stronger than you, oh, similarly, there are many degrees of strength. Now, these degrees of strength is Kṛṣṇa. So you can understand Kṛṣṇa. Without Kṛṣṇa's favor, nobody can be stronger than the others. So balaṁ balavatām asmi.
Kāma-rāga-vivarjitam. Kāma. Kāma means desire. Rāga-vivarjitam, without attraction. Desire without attraction, that is Kṛṣṇa. Desire without attraction, how it can be possible? Desire with attraction. Whenever we desire something... I want some young girl, I desire. Desire means I have got attraction. But desire without attraction, how it is possible? Can you explain? Yes. Desire without attraction means Kṛṣṇa consciousness. I desire for Kṛṣṇa's benefit, not for my benefit. That is desire without attraction.
Prabhupāda: So
- kāma-rāga-vivarjitam
- Kāma-rāga-vivarjitam,
- dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu
- kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha.
"And lust, lust which is not against religious principles, that is also I am." What is that lust? Lust means, generally means, sex, sex life. Sex life which is not against religious principles, that is Kṛṣṇa. How it is religious principle, sex life? Yes. Sex life is religious principle in this way, that when you want a good child, in that sense, if you undertake sex life, that is sanctioned. That is religion.
If you can produce a good child, you can have thousand times sexual intercourse, but if you produce cats and dogs, don't take. That is irreligious. So here it is stated that dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu. Therefore, for sex life, dharma is marriage. In the human society there is marriage. In the animal society there is no marriage. They indulge in sex life any way, because they are animals.
So far India is concerned, that is a different thing. In America also, I find so many American gentlemen, they read Bhagavad-gītā. But I am afraid if they are reading Bhagavad-gītā so scrutinizingly, as it is stated here, dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha: "Sex life which is not against religious principle, that is I am." So in, I mean to say, regulated sex life, married life, that is Kṛṣṇa. So that is not without Kṛṣṇa. That is Kṛṣṇa.
Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)
- balaṁ balavatāṁ cāhaṁ
- kāma-rāga-vivarjitam
- dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu
- kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha
Translation: "I am the strength of the strong, devoid of passion and desire. I am sex life which is not contrary to religious principles, O Lord of the Bhāratas, Arjuna."
Prabhupāda: Next śloka also.
Prabhupāda:
- balaṁ balavatāṁ cāhaṁ
- kāma-rāga-vivarjitam
- dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu
- kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha
Kṛṣṇa is explaining everything, how you can become Kṛṣṇa conscious twenty-four hours. The one process is, as recommended by Caitanya Mahāprabhu,
This is life. Human life is meant for this purpose. Kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ. We require something to eat because we have got this body. So minimizing the bodily enjoyments... Bodily enjoyment means... Or necessities. When you use bodily necessities in excessive proportion, that is called kāma. Otherwise, to satisfy the bodily necessities, that is not kāma. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says that kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha. Dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu. Dharma aviruddha. The religion, religion means regulation. Dharmaṁ tu sākṣād bhagavat-praṇītam (SB 6.3.19). Everything has got regulation. Just like in our ordinary life, we get license. Even a man is keeping a wine shop—that is not good thing—but he must take license, regulation. The whole śāstra means regulation. Śāstra. The word śāstra has come from śās-dhātu. Śās-dhātu means ruling, controlling. So from śās-dhātu, the śāsana has come, government ruling. And śāstra has come. And śastra has come. Śastra means weapon.
Therefore Kṛṣṇa says that dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha. Who is following the, strictly the regulative principles, even in sex life he can see Kṛṣṇa. Which is considered abominable, but even in sex life, if you are following the rules and regulations, you can see Kṛṣṇa. Therefore when such sons are begotten, they become devotees of Kṛṣṇa. Therefore according to Hindu principles, there is garbhādhāna-saṁskāra, ten kinds of saṁskāras, reformative measures. So the sex life should be also open to the saṁskāra. It is a saṁskāra.
Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare. Ladies and gentlemen, I thank you very much for your participating in this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. So yesterday we were discussing this verse,
- balaṁ balavatāṁ cāhaṁ
- kāma-rāga-vivarjitam
- dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu
- kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha
Dharma-aviruddha. Dharma-aviruddha, the meaning of dharma-aviruddha, "illegal, illicit," "against the laws of God." Dharma means the laws of God, and anything against the laws of God, that is called dharmāviruddho... Dharma-viruddha and dharma-aviruddha. Yes. Viruddha means against, and aviruddha means not against, in favor.
Therefore it is śāstra. Or anyone who writes in terms of the śāstra, that is right direction. If we speak Bhagavad-gītā as Kṛṣṇa desires, then it is nice. And if we describe Bhagavad-gītā to fulfill our ulterior motives for some purpose, then it is useless. So similarly, Kṛṣṇa said, dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha. Those who are not following the principles, how to beget child, or not observing the garbhādhāna-saṁskāra—according to śāstra, immediately the family becomes converted into śūdra. No more brāhmaṇa, no more kṣatriya, if he does not follow. This is very easy to understand. If you do something illegally, against the law, immediately you become a criminal. Similarly, dharmāviruddha. The garbhādhāna-saṁskāra has to be observed. Otherwise we become śūdra, no more brāhmaṇa, no more kṣatriya.
Prabhupāda:
- balaṁ balavatāṁ cāhaṁ
- kāma-rāga-vivarjitam
- dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu
- kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha
Now, this particular verse we were discussing last day, that lust or sex desire on the principles of religiosity is Kṛṣṇa. This point we have discussed very elaborately, you may remember, that so far necessities of this body are concerned, that is allowed, but in a regulated form.
Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures
Prabhupāda: So read it.
Nitāi:
- balaṁ balavatāṁ cāhaṁ
- kāma-rāga-vivarjitam
- dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu
- kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha
Prabhupāda: Dharmāviruddha?
Nitāi: Dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Nitāi: Kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha.
Prabhupāda: Read the...
Nitāi: "I am the strength of the strong, devoid of passion and desire. I am sex life which is not contrary to religious principles, O lord of the Bhāratas."
Prabhupāda: Yes. This sex life, garbhādhāna-saṁskāra... This is called garbhādhāna-saṁskāra, just to beget first-class children. That kind of sex life, Kṛṣṇa says, "I am that sex life." This is saṁskāra. So formerly, at least those who were on the higher status of the society, namely the brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, and vaiśyas, they had to observe this garbhādhāna-saṁskāra. It is not a secret thing. Because one is going to beget child, so the child must be worth, a human being, Therefore there is saṁ... First of all, the garbhādhāna-saṁskāra. Then, when the wife is pregnant, there are other saṁskāras. Then upanayana-saṁskāra, vivāha-saṁskāra, up to the point of death. From before birth and up to the point of death, there are saṁskāras.
Prabhupāda: So therefore, for charity householders required. You cannot condemn householders.
Akṣayānanda: We do not condemn the householders, though. All of Lord Caitanya's, many of His followers were householders, and He encouraged them to progress in devotional life. Kṛṣṇa says, dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu, "I am householder life within the religious principles." In that way, Kṛṣṇa consciousness is for everyone. It is not restricted to sannyāsīs or brahmacārīs or persons who are celibate, but to all persons who follow the principles that are set down in Bhagavad-gītā and the śāstras.
Philosophy Discussions
That is our brahmācārya system. The psychology is that everyone has a sex appetite, everyone has a tendency for intoxication, and everyone had a tendency for meat-eating. Vyavāya āmiṣa madya sevā. These tendencies are already there. There is injunction in the śāstras that one can have sexual intercourse by marriage, legal sex. We are prohibiting illicit sex, but we are not prohibiting legal sex. Just like in the Bhagavad-gītā Kṛṣṇa says, dharmāviruddho' bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha, sex indulgence which is not against religious principles. That is (indistinct). So religious principle means regulated sex life. People have a tendency...
Conversations and Morning Walks
1974 Conversations and Morning Walks
Mr. Sar: Where does he get the strength from? Strength is Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: That is Kṛṣṇa.
Dr. Patel: Kāma-rāga-vivarjitaḥ.
Mr. Sar: Dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha. That is a very important... Dharma aviruddhaḥ.
Dr. Patel: This... Please explain that.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Dharma aviruddho. Dharma aviruddho means putrārthe kriyate bhāryā. Putrārthe bhāryā. Wife is accepted only for getting son, not for sexual intercourse. Putrārthe kriyate bhāryā. So when you have sex life simply for generating good son, that is Kṛṣṇa. And if you want to enjoy your senses, that is pāpa.
Mr. Sar: That's correct.
Devotee: ...kāma-rāja-vivarjitam, dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha.
Prabhupāda: Hm.
Devotee: (reads translation to Bg. 7.11 in German)
Prabhupāda: Sex life, married couple, that is alright, not otherwise, that is sinful.
Devotee: Śrīla Prabhupāda, just this objection was that in this statement of Bhagavad-gītā doesn't clearly say no reason you should not have sex life outside of married life, they say they state religious principles, but this is...
1975 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: There is in Bhagavad-gītā, that dharmāviruddhaḥ kāmo 'smi. Find out. You can come here and read.
Paramahaṁsa: Which was that? Dharma...
Prabhupāda: Dharmāviruddhaḥ kāmo 'smi.
Paramahaṁsa: Dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu?
Prabhupāda: No, dharmāviruddhaḥ kāmo 'smi. Dharma-aviruddha. You know that verse.
Paramahaṁsa: Is that balaṁ balavatāṁ cāham?
Prabhupāda: Ah, yes, yes, yes.
Paramahaṁsa:
- balaṁ balavatāṁ cāhaṁ
- kāma-rāga-vivarjitam
- dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu
- kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha
Translation: "I am the strength of the strong, devoid of passion and desire. I am sex life which is not contrary to religious principles, O Lord of the Bhāratas, Arjuna."
Guest (1): You can follow actually? What does that exactly mean? It's a direct translation, I think.
Paramahaṁsa: He says, "What does that exactly mean?"
Prabhupāda: Explain to him.
Paramahaṁsa: Well, as it explains here, "The strong man's strength should be applied to protect the weak, not for personal aggression. Similarly, sex life, according to religious principles, dharma, should be for the propagation of children, not otherwise. The responsibility of parents is then to make their offspring Kṛṣṇa conscious."
Guest (2): The question was which religion, which religious principle?
Paramahaṁsa: Well, he means our marriage under... We accept that marriage, sex life in marriage, is licit, not illicit. So he asked, "Under what religious principles or under which religion?"
Prabhupāda: Any religion. Christian religion does not allow illicit sex. No adultery.
Jesuit: Therefore sex, in itself, is good.
Prabhupāda: Sex is good, that is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā, dharmāviruddhaḥ kāmo 'smi. Find out, balaṁ balavatām asmi dharma..., like that.
Devotee:
- balaṁ balavatāṁ cāhaṁ
- kāma-rāga-vivarjitam
- dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu
- kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha
"I am the strength of the strong, devoid of passion and desire. I am sex life which is not contrary to religious principles, O lord of the Bhāratas."
Prabhupāda: Just see.
Jesuit: What is this book?
Prabhupāda: This is Bhagavad-gītā. He is speaking, the God is speaking.
Jesuit: OK.
1976 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: Of hymns I am the Bṛhat-sāma sung to the Lord Indra, and of poetry I am the Gāyatrī verse, sung daily by brāhmaṇas. Of months I am November and December, and of seasons I am flower-bearing spring. I am also the gambling of cheats, and of the splendid I am the splendor. I am victory, I am adventure, and I am the strength of the strong. Of the descendants of Vṛṣṇi I am Vāsudeva, and of the Pāṇḍavas I am Arjuna. Of the sages I am Vyāsa, and among great thinkers I am Uśanā. Among punishments I am the rod of chastisement, and of those who seek victory, I am morality. Of secret things I am silence, and of the wise I am wisdom.
Prabhupāda: Well, it is just like there is a school. The school is also advertising that you come here, you will get education. And one who is in need of education, he is also trying to come to school. So the school must be bona fide and the student must be bona fide. Then things will come at. If the school is bogus, then what the student will learn? They will not learn.
Girirāja: Dharmāviruddho bhūteṣu kāmo 'smi bharatarṣabha.
Prabhupāda: Ah, that's it. What does that mean?
Girirāja: "I am the strength of the strong, devoid of passion and desire. I am sex life which is not contrary to religious principles."
Prabhupāda: There is good sex life and bad sex life. One who does not know what is good sex life, what is bad sex life, he's a rascal. Here you have to indulge in sex life which is not against the religious principles. But you must know what is religious and what is irreligious. If you do not know, you are rascal. There are two kinds of sex life. Otherwise, why Kṛṣṇa says, "Sex life which is not against the religious principles, that I am." So God is good. So sex life which is not against the religious principles, that is good sex life. Otherwise, it is bad.
1977 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: "Phat! Phat! Phat! Phat!" But still, he goes. Bahu-duḥkha-bhājaḥ (SB 7.9.45). It begins with kicking. The cats also, they (makes cat noise:) "Eeeyow!" They have come for sex, but the female cat will show some prestige and... Then sex. If she does not like, why she has come? (laughter) But they show some prestigious position. Then (makes cat noise:) "Eeyenh!" This is the central point of material happiness. Therefore we cannot allow within our temples now such sex. That is not possible. We are condemning the sex life, and we cannot accommodate.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That boy who was speaking to you that evening quoted that Kṛṣṇa says, kāmo 'smi bhāratarṣabha.
Prabhupāda: Kāmo 'smi, that should be. That kāma is not that, that whenever they like, have sex and then go away. That is his kāma . Once you have sex life and the woman first of all debauches like... You have to make it public that "I am going to have garbhādhāna-saṁskāra." It is not a secret thing. It is a ceremony. And then, when she is pregnant, no more sex. No more sex means so long the child is there, ten months, and unless the child is grown up at least six months, no sex. That means once you have sex and then abstain for sixteen months. You know what is that dharma? So who is such a foolish man that for once having sex and then abstaining...? Therefore those who could not abstain, they used to keep many wives.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, I mean, what is the purpose of... A man is foolish because he's attracted by sex life, but even in marriage...
Correspondence
1972 Correspondence
Therefore, in fact, it is a society of weak men—everyone is weak before Durga Devi or the material energy. If you see sometimes her picture, the foolish materialist is being held by the claws of her tiger-carrier, while she pierces him to death with her trident weapon. She has got ten arms, each with weapon, she is so strong, but we are so weak that simply by piercing with her trident, the three-fold miseries, adhibhautika, adhidaivika, and adhyatmika, the foolish materialists are all defeated! And before Krishna, Durga devi is very weak—Krishna is the controller of Durga. So Krishna is the strongest: sattyam sattvavatam aham, "I am the strength of the strong." Therefore, being weak, it is the eternal occupational duty of the living entity to surrender to Krishna, that's all. In the surrendering to Krishna, if everyone does it, still, the brahmanas will be served by the lower castes, the kings will be served by vaisyas and sudras, the vaisyas will be served by the sudras, and the sudras will serve all higher castes—there is still utilizing the weak by the strong—but feeling themselves always very much weak in comparison to Krishna, the whole society services the Strongest, therefore there will be no envy of the stronger by the weaker class of men.
1977 Correspondence
In answer to your questions, sastra says that only for progeny there should be sex, otherwise no sex, "dharmaviruddho bhutesu kamo 'smi." No "indriyartha," for sense gratification there should be no sex. But, this sterilization is for sense gratification. That is most sinful. The Indian government is becoming demonic because those who elect the government are becoming demonic.