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| <div id="RoomConversationFebruary171971Gorakhpur_1" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="5" link="Room Conversation -- February 17, 1971, Gorakhpur" link_text="Room Conversation -- February 17, 1971, Gorakhpur"> | | <div id="RoomConversationFebruary171971Gorakhpur_1" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="5" link="Room Conversation -- February 17, 1971, Gorakhpur" link_text="Room Conversation -- February 17, 1971, Gorakhpur"> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- February 17, 1971, Gorakhpur|Room Conversation -- February 17, 1971, Gorakhpur]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: (Hindi) Imaṁ vivasvate yogaṁ proktavān. Forty millions of years ago what He did, He remembers. Therefore His maraṇa. His janma is different. (Hindi) He remembers. You do not remember. You sambhava(?), but you do not remember. Why don't you understand the difference between your activities and Kṛṣṇa's activities? That is wanted. Why do you think that "Kṛṣṇa is as good as I am"? Then you'll be able to understand Him. Avajānanti māṁ mūḍhā. As soon as you think that "Kṛṣṇa is as good as I am," then you are mūḍha. "Because He has appeared as a human being, therfore He is as good a human being like me." That is the conclusion of the mūḍha, rascals. Avajānanti māṁ mūḍha mānuṣīṁ tanum āśritam, paraṁ bhāvam ajānanto ([[Vanisource:BG 9.11|BG 9.11]]). He does not know what is Kṛṣṇa.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- February 17, 1971, Gorakhpur|Room Conversation -- February 17, 1971, Gorakhpur]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: (Hindi) Imaṁ vivasvate yogaṁ proktavān. Forty millions of years ago what He did, He remembers. Therefore His maraṇa. His janma is different. (Hindi) He remembers. You do not remember. You sambhava(?), but you do not remember. Why don't you understand the difference between your activities and Kṛṣṇa's activities? That is wanted. Why do you think that "Kṛṣṇa is as good as I am"? Then you'll be able to understand Him. Avajānanti māṁ mūḍhā. As soon as you think that "Kṛṣṇa is as good as I am," then you are mūḍha. "Because He has appeared as a human being, therfore He is as good a human being like me." That is the conclusion of the mūḍha, rascals. Avajānanti māṁ mūḍha mānuṣīṁ tanum āśritam, paraṁ bhāvam ajānanto ([[Vanisource:BG 9.11 (1972)|BG 9.11]]). He does not know what is Kṛṣṇa.</p> |
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| <div id="InterviewwithReportersNovember101971NewDelhi_3" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="27" link="Interview with Reporters -- November 10, 1971, New Delhi" link_text="Interview with Reporters -- November 10, 1971, New Delhi"> | | <div id="InterviewwithReportersNovember101971NewDelhi_3" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="27" link="Interview with Reporters -- November 10, 1971, New Delhi" link_text="Interview with Reporters -- November 10, 1971, New Delhi"> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Interview with Reporters -- November 10, 1971, New Delhi|Interview with Reporters -- November 10, 1971, New Delhi]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That guru cannot be. That guru's designation is there in the Vedas, that tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta jijñāsuḥ śreya uttamam ([[Vanisource:SB 11.3.21|SB 11.3.21]]). Anyone who is inquisitive for understanding... Suppose if you are inquisitive to understand really what is Lalaji, then you must approach to a person who knows Lalaji. Then you will understand Lalaji. And if you approach somebody who does not know Lalaji, then he may give you misinformation. So guru is that who knows Kṛṣṇa. Otherwise you will not be able to understand what is Kṛṣṇa. That Kṛṣṇa also very easily you can find out. Take what Kṛṣṇa says. Kṛṣṇa teaches Bhagavad-gītā to Arjuna directly. Now if you believe Arjuna, then you understand Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa taught Bhagavad-gītā to Arjuna, and why Arjuna was taught, that is also said by Kṛṣṇa, that bhakto 'si priyo 'si: ([[Vanisource:BG 4.3|BG 4.3]]) "Because you are My devotee."</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Interview with Reporters -- November 10, 1971, New Delhi|Interview with Reporters -- November 10, 1971, New Delhi]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That guru cannot be. That guru's designation is there in the Vedas, that tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta jijñāsuḥ śreya uttamam ([[Vanisource:SB 11.3.21|SB 11.3.21]]). Anyone who is inquisitive for understanding... Suppose if you are inquisitive to understand really what is Lalaji, then you must approach to a person who knows Lalaji. Then you will understand Lalaji. And if you approach somebody who does not know Lalaji, then he may give you misinformation. So guru is that who knows Kṛṣṇa. Otherwise you will not be able to understand what is Kṛṣṇa. That Kṛṣṇa also very easily you can find out. Take what Kṛṣṇa says. Kṛṣṇa teaches Bhagavad-gītā to Arjuna directly. Now if you believe Arjuna, then you understand Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa taught Bhagavad-gītā to Arjuna, and why Arjuna was taught, that is also said by Kṛṣṇa, that bhakto 'si priyo 'si: ([[Vanisource:BG 4.3 (1972)|BG 4.3]]) "Because you are My devotee."</p> |
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| <div id="InterviewJuly51972NewYork_0" class="quote" parent="1972_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="34" link="Interview -- July 5, 1972, New York" link_text="Interview -- July 5, 1972, New York"> | | <div id="InterviewJuly51972NewYork_0" class="quote" parent="1972_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="34" link="Interview -- July 5, 1972, New York" link_text="Interview -- July 5, 1972, New York"> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Interview -- July 5, 1972, New York|Interview -- July 5, 1972, New York]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Now, there are many unfortunate living entities and there are many fortunate living entities. So we are preaching this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement in America or Western country, only the fortunate persons they are coming. But if few of them come and understand, then by their example and behavior, the whole population will be benefited. It is not expected that cent percent population will be able to understand this philosophy of Kṛṣṇa consciousness, but by the examples of the few, yad yad ācarati śreṣṭhas lokas tad anuvartate ([[Vanisource:BG 3.21|BG 3.21]]). Just like you'll find in our temple it is always crowded to the fullest extent. We require a more spacious home. But not all of them our initiated students. Out of them say ten percent may be our initiated students. But still people are coming to see. They are following. Gradually they will also become student.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Interview -- July 5, 1972, New York|Interview -- July 5, 1972, New York]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Now, there are many unfortunate living entities and there are many fortunate living entities. So we are preaching this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement in America or Western country, only the fortunate persons they are coming. But if few of them come and understand, then by their example and behavior, the whole population will be benefited. It is not expected that cent percent population will be able to understand this philosophy of Kṛṣṇa consciousness, but by the examples of the few, yad yad ācarati śreṣṭhas lokas tad anuvartate ([[Vanisource:BG 3.21 (1972)|BG 3.21]]). Just like you'll find in our temple it is always crowded to the fullest extent. We require a more spacious home. But not all of them our initiated students. Out of them say ten percent may be our initiated students. But still people are coming to see. They are following. Gradually they will also become student.</p> |
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| <div id="MorningWalkConversationSeptember281972LosAngeles_1" class="quote" parent="1972_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="40" link="Morning Walk Conversation -- September 28, 1972, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk Conversation -- September 28, 1972, Los Angeles"> | | <div id="MorningWalkConversationSeptember281972LosAngeles_1" class="quote" parent="1972_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="40" link="Morning Walk Conversation -- September 28, 1972, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk Conversation -- September 28, 1972, Los Angeles"> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk Conversation -- September 28, 1972, Los Angeles|Morning Walk Conversation -- September 28, 1972, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes, that is we call kūpa-maṇḍūka-nyāya(?), the frog, Dr. Frog of the well. He cannot conceive what is Atlantic Ocean, but still he will theorize, "Atlantic Ocean may be so big, so big, so big." What experience you can get Atlantic Ocean living in a three-foot well? That is going on. And if I ask you, "What is the measurement of the space?" You cannot say that. You cannot say that. But there is measurement (indistinct). It may be unlimited for you, but as it is a created thing, there must be measurement. Any created thing has measurement. Unless they agree to submit... They must submit. Just like you have submitted, you are (indistinct), so you can understand God. This is the only qualification. Therefore, Kṛṣṇa says, sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekam ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66|BG 18.66]]), "First of all submit, rascal, then I shall (indistinct), you will be able to understand the truth." There is no possibility of understanding the whole thing by challenge.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk Conversation -- September 28, 1972, Los Angeles|Morning Walk Conversation -- September 28, 1972, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes, that is we call kūpa-maṇḍūka-nyāya(?), the frog, Dr. Frog of the well. He cannot conceive what is Atlantic Ocean, but still he will theorize, "Atlantic Ocean may be so big, so big, so big." What experience you can get Atlantic Ocean living in a three-foot well? That is going on. And if I ask you, "What is the measurement of the space?" You cannot say that. You cannot say that. But there is measurement (indistinct). It may be unlimited for you, but as it is a created thing, there must be measurement. Any created thing has measurement. Unless they agree to submit... They must submit. Just like you have submitted, you are (indistinct), so you can understand God. This is the only qualification. Therefore, Kṛṣṇa says, sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekam ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66 (1972)|BG 18.66]]), "First of all submit, rascal, then I shall (indistinct), you will be able to understand the truth." There is no possibility of understanding the whole thing by challenge.</p> |
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| <div id="RoomConversationwithSirAlistairHardyJuly211973London_2" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="48" link="Room Conversation with Sir Alistair Hardy -- July 21, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Sir Alistair Hardy -- July 21, 1973, London"> | | <div id="RoomConversationwithSirAlistairHardyJuly211973London_2" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="48" link="Room Conversation with Sir Alistair Hardy -- July 21, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Sir Alistair Hardy -- July 21, 1973, London"> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Sir Alistair Hardy -- July 21, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Sir Alistair Hardy -- July 21, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19|BG 7.19]]). So we accept Bible also as Vedas, but we simply say that they misinterpret the Biblical commandments. The Bible says, "Thou shalt not kill," and the Christian people are killing, maintaining slaughterhouse. What is this? This is my question. How they'll understand God if they are so much implicated in sinful activities? According to Vedas, there are four kinds of sinful activities: illicit sex, unnecessary killing of animals, intoxication and gambling. Yatra pāpaś catur-vidhaḥ. So God is purest. Paraṁ brahma paraṁ dhāma pavitraṁ paramaṁ bhavān ([[Vanisource:BG 10.12|BG 10.12]]). How one can approach God if he leads a sinful life? That is our propagation. You give up this sinful life. Then you'll be able to understand God. You follow Christianity or Mohammedanism or Buddhism. It doesn't matter. You give up this sinful life.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Sir Alistair Hardy -- July 21, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Sir Alistair Hardy -- July 21, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). So we accept Bible also as Vedas, but we simply say that they misinterpret the Biblical commandments. The Bible says, "Thou shalt not kill," and the Christian people are killing, maintaining slaughterhouse. What is this? This is my question. How they'll understand God if they are so much implicated in sinful activities? According to Vedas, there are four kinds of sinful activities: illicit sex, unnecessary killing of animals, intoxication and gambling. Yatra pāpaś catur-vidhaḥ. So God is purest. Paraṁ brahma paraṁ dhāma pavitraṁ paramaṁ bhavān ([[Vanisource:BG 10.12-13 (1972)|BG 10.12]]). How one can approach God if he leads a sinful life? That is our propagation. You give up this sinful life. Then you'll be able to understand God. You follow Christianity or Mohammedanism or Buddhism. It doesn't matter. You give up this sinful life.</p> |
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| <p>Prabhupāda: This is maintained by Vedic injunction. Just like people are very much attached to fruitive activities. They are attached to that. They do not want to go beyond. The karmīs. Karmīs, their whole ambition is how to go to these heavenly planets. He does not know that what is the benefit of going to the heavenly planets? He does not know. Therefore he is amazed by the chandāṁsi, Vedic chandāṁsi. Yām imāṁ puṣpitāṁ vācam, veda-vādinaḥ. So they are especially attached to these Vedic...</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: This is maintained by Vedic injunction. Just like people are very much attached to fruitive activities. They are attached to that. They do not want to go beyond. The karmīs. Karmīs, their whole ambition is how to go to these heavenly planets. He does not know that what is the benefit of going to the heavenly planets? He does not know. Therefore he is amazed by the chandāṁsi, Vedic chandāṁsi. Yām imāṁ puṣpitāṁ vācam, veda-vādinaḥ. So they are especially attached to these Vedic...</p> |
| <p>Chandobhai: Injunctions of action.</p> | | <p>Chandobhai: Injunctions of action.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Fruitive activities. They do not accept this: ā-brahma-bhuvanāl lokāḥ punar āvartino 'rjuna ([[Vanisource:BG 8.16|BG 8.16]]). They'll not. "No, no. We shall go to..." Just like these rascals are going to the Candraloka. Candraloka. (laughter) Now other rascals supporting them: "Oh, now we are..." (laughter)</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Fruitive activities. They do not accept this: ā-brahma-bhuvanāl lokāḥ punar āvartino 'rjuna ([[Vanisource:BG 8.16 (1972)|BG 8.16]]). They'll not. "No, no. We shall go to..." Just like these rascals are going to the Candraloka. Candraloka. (laughter) Now other rascals supporting them: "Oh, now we are..." (laughter)</p> |
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| <div id="MorningWalkJune291974Melbourne_6" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="133" link="Morning Walk -- June 29, 1974, Melbourne" link_text="Morning Walk -- June 29, 1974, Melbourne"> | | <div id="MorningWalkJune291974Melbourne_6" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="133" link="Morning Walk -- June 29, 1974, Melbourne" link_text="Morning Walk -- June 29, 1974, Melbourne"> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 29, 1974, Melbourne|Morning Walk -- June 29, 1974, Melbourne]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: And do you think these people are coming to offer these 100,000 rupees daily to a stone? And the ācāryas established this temple for bluffing these people? Does it mean, their collecting? They do not know the science, rascals. And therefore simply... Sinful life cannot help. Vinā paśughnāt ([[Vanisource:SB 10.1.4|SB 10.1.4]]). That is stated in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, that "One who is killer of animal, he cannot understand the spiritual science." Vinā paśughnāt ([[Vanisource:SB 10.1.4|SB 10.1.4]]). This is the statement. Paśughna means the animal killer. Therefore the first prohibition is stop this animal killing. Otherwise, this dull brain will not be able to understand. They are not fit for understanding. Mūḍha, mūḍha. Na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.15|BG 7.15]]). Duṣkṛtina means always engaged in sinful activities. They have got brain but their brain is being utilized only for sinful activities, they are called duṣkṛtina. Kṛtī, kṛtī means good brain, and duṣkṛtī means brain is being utilized for sinful act.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 29, 1974, Melbourne|Morning Walk -- June 29, 1974, Melbourne]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: And do you think these people are coming to offer these 100,000 rupees daily to a stone? And the ācāryas established this temple for bluffing these people? Does it mean, their collecting? They do not know the science, rascals. And therefore simply... Sinful life cannot help. Vinā paśughnāt ([[Vanisource:SB 10.1.4|SB 10.1.4]]). That is stated in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, that "One who is killer of animal, he cannot understand the spiritual science." Vinā paśughnāt ([[Vanisource:SB 10.1.4|SB 10.1.4]]). This is the statement. Paśughna means the animal killer. Therefore the first prohibition is stop this animal killing. Otherwise, this dull brain will not be able to understand. They are not fit for understanding. Mūḍha, mūḍha. Na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.15 (1972)|BG 7.15]]). Duṣkṛtina means always engaged in sinful activities. They have got brain but their brain is being utilized only for sinful activities, they are called duṣkṛtina. Kṛtī, kṛtī means good brain, and duṣkṛtī means brain is being utilized for sinful act.</p> |
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| <div id="ConversationwithProfessorHopkinsJuly131975Philadelphia_1" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="143" link="Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia" link_text="Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia"> | | <div id="ConversationwithProfessorHopkinsJuly131975Philadelphia_1" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="143" link="Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia" link_text="Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia"> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia|Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Bhakti-yoga is said last. Sarva dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66|BG 18.66]]). People are not prepared to take the sublime lesson immediately. Then he has to go step by step. So that is the system of Bhagavad-gītā.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia|Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Bhakti-yoga is said last. Sarva dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66 (1972)|BG 18.66]]). People are not prepared to take the sublime lesson immediately. Then he has to go step by step. So that is the system of Bhagavad-gītā.</p> |
| <p>Prof. Hopkins: Are there other ways besides Kṛṣṇa consciousness to reach that same goal?</p> | | <p>Prof. Hopkins: Are there other ways besides Kṛṣṇa consciousness to reach that same goal?</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: No.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: No.</p> |
| <p>Prof. Hopkins: Or is that the only goal?</p> | | <p>Prof. Hopkins: Or is that the only goal?</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: That is only. That is stated in Bhagavad-gītā. Bhaktyā mām abhi... If you want to know God and your relationship with God then only through bhakti, no other. That is stated in the... Bhaktyā mām abhijānāti yāvān yaś cāsmi tattvataḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 18.55|BG 18.55]]). Otherwise you will never be able to understand.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: That is only. That is stated in Bhagavad-gītā. Bhaktyā mām abhi... If you want to know God and your relationship with God then only through bhakti, no other. That is stated in the... Bhaktyā mām abhijānāti yāvān yaś cāsmi tattvataḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 18.55 (1972)|BG 18.55]]). Otherwise you will never be able to understand.</p> |
| <p>Prof. Hopkins: If the highest reality is Puruṣottama and Puruṣottama is manifested in many different ways in the world, can people come to Puruṣottama through various paths?</p> | | <p>Prof. Hopkins: If the highest reality is Puruṣottama and Puruṣottama is manifested in many different ways in the world, can people come to Puruṣottama through various paths?</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Various path means bhakti is the only path. Now all other paths they must come to bhakti. Without bhakti there is no possibility.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Various path means bhakti is the only path. Now all other paths they must come to bhakti. Without bhakti there is no possibility.</p> |
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| <div id="MorningWalkNovember31975Bombay_3" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="232" link="Morning Walk -- November 3, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- November 3, 1975, Bombay"> | | <div id="MorningWalkNovember31975Bombay_3" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="232" link="Morning Walk -- November 3, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- November 3, 1975, Bombay"> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 3, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- November 3, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No. At that time, I shall not be able to... You can come at five. Because after waking up I prepare. Then at five I begin. Let us meet. And Kṛṣṇa says, tathā dehāntara-prāptir dhīras tatra na muhyati ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13|BG 2.13]]). So one has to become dhīra. If one remains adhīra, then he'll never be able to understand the distinction between body and soul.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 3, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- November 3, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No. At that time, I shall not be able to... You can come at five. Because after waking up I prepare. Then at five I begin. Let us meet. And Kṛṣṇa says, tathā dehāntara-prāptir dhīras tatra na muhyati ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]). So one has to become dhīra. If one remains adhīra, then he'll never be able to understand the distinction between body and soul.</p> |
| <p>Dr. Patel: Dhīra means buddhi.</p> | | <p>Dr. Patel: Dhīra means buddhi.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Dhīra means sober. Sober, yes. Just like high-court judge. He judges everything very... (break) ...then he gives his judgment.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Dhīra means sober. Sober, yes. Just like high-court judge. He judges everything very... (break) ...then he gives his judgment.</p> |
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| :upadekṣyanti te jñānaṁ | | :upadekṣyanti te jñānaṁ |
| :jñāninas tattva-darśinaḥ | | :jñāninas tattva-darśinaḥ |
| :([[Vanisource:BG 4.34|BG 4.34]]) | | :([[Vanisource:BG 4.34 (1972)|BG 4.34]]) |
| <p>One who has seen, one who knows where is the honey is there, go there, and he'll open, and you'll understand.</p> | | <p>One who has seen, one who knows where is the honey is there, go there, and he'll open, and you'll understand.</p> |
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| <div id="ConversationatHouseofKsirodakasayidasaJuly251976London_5" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="227" link="Conversation at House of Ksirodakasayi dasa -- July 25, 1976, London" link_text="Conversation at House of Ksirodakasayi dasa -- July 25, 1976, London"> | | <div id="ConversationatHouseofKsirodakasayidasaJuly251976London_5" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="227" link="Conversation at House of Ksirodakasayi dasa -- July 25, 1976, London" link_text="Conversation at House of Ksirodakasayi dasa -- July 25, 1976, London"> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation at House of Ksirodakasayi dasa -- July 25, 1976, London|Conversation at House of Ksirodakasayi dasa -- July 25, 1976, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: We are quoting from Bhagavad-gītā the same thing. We are not presenting something manufactured. There is no need, because things in perfection is already there in the Bhagavad-gītā. There is no need of manufacturing by fools and rascals. There is no need. Everything is there in perfection. Simply we have to accept it and apply it in practical life. Then our life will be successful. Simply we have to understand it. Kṛṣṇa says that janma karma ca me divyaṁ yo jānāti tattvataḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 4.9|BG 4.9]]). Simply to understand Kṛṣṇa as He is... Then jānāti tattvataḥ, anyone who is able to understand Kṛṣṇa in truth, then what is the result? The result is tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti kaunteya: ([[Vanisource:BG 4.9|BG 4.9]]) "Such person, after giving up this body, he does not accept another material body." At the present moment we are giving up one material body and accepting another material body.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation at House of Ksirodakasayi dasa -- July 25, 1976, London|Conversation at House of Ksirodakasayi dasa -- July 25, 1976, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: We are quoting from Bhagavad-gītā the same thing. We are not presenting something manufactured. There is no need, because things in perfection is already there in the Bhagavad-gītā. There is no need of manufacturing by fools and rascals. There is no need. Everything is there in perfection. Simply we have to accept it and apply it in practical life. Then our life will be successful. Simply we have to understand it. Kṛṣṇa says that janma karma ca me divyaṁ yo jānāti tattvataḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 4.9 (1972)|BG 4.9]]). Simply to understand Kṛṣṇa as He is... Then jānāti tattvataḥ, anyone who is able to understand Kṛṣṇa in truth, then what is the result? The result is tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti kaunteya: ([[Vanisource:BG 4.9 (1972)|BG 4.9]]) "Such person, after giving up this body, he does not accept another material body." At the present moment we are giving up one material body and accepting another material body.</p> |
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| <div id="RoomConversationAugust161976Bombay_7" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="269" link="Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay"> | | <div id="RoomConversationAugust161976Bombay_7" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="269" link="Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay"> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay|Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: But you should go gradually. You should go gradually. You first of all understand Kṛṣṇa, then kṛṣṇa-līlā. If you have not understood Kṛṣṇa, then you'll think Kṛṣṇa's rāsa-līlā is just like we mix with young women. And that becomes as polluted. Because they do not understand Kṛṣṇa. Manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye yatatām api siddhānām ([[Vanisource:BG 7.3|BG 7.3]]). Kṛṣṇa understanding so easy? If you do not understand Kṛṣṇa how can you go to the Kṛṣṇa's confidential activities?</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay|Room Conversation -- August 16, 1976, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: But you should go gradually. You should go gradually. You first of all understand Kṛṣṇa, then kṛṣṇa-līlā. If you have not understood Kṛṣṇa, then you'll think Kṛṣṇa's rāsa-līlā is just like we mix with young women. And that becomes as polluted. Because they do not understand Kṛṣṇa. Manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye yatatām api siddhānām ([[Vanisource:BG 7.3 (1972)|BG 7.3]]). Kṛṣṇa understanding so easy? If you do not understand Kṛṣṇa how can you go to the Kṛṣṇa's confidential activities?</p> |
| <p>Acyutānanda: Some of the devotees, they said that it is for liberated souls. So they said, "Well, we are all liberated."</p> | | <p>Acyutānanda: Some of the devotees, they said that it is for liberated souls. So they said, "Well, we are all liberated."</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Liberated for going to hell.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Liberated for going to hell.</p> |
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| <div id="RoomConversationwithDrTheodoreKneupperNovember61976Vrndavana_9" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="329" link="Room Conversation with Dr. Theodore Kneupper -- November 6, 1976, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation with Dr. Theodore Kneupper -- November 6, 1976, Vrndavana"> | | <div id="RoomConversationwithDrTheodoreKneupperNovember61976Vrndavana_9" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="329" link="Room Conversation with Dr. Theodore Kneupper -- November 6, 1976, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation with Dr. Theodore Kneupper -- November 6, 1976, Vrndavana"> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Dr. Theodore Kneupper -- November 6, 1976, Vrndavana|Room Conversation with Dr. Theodore Kneupper -- November 6, 1976, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. Not... Meat-eating is third-class man's eating. It is not denied. Amedhya. But to give us our life, don't kill cows, because it gives you milk, very substantial food. If you want to eat meat, you can eat the hogs and dogs. But don't kill the cows. Kṛṣi-go-rakṣya-vāṇijyam ([[Vanisource:BG 18.44|BG 18.44]]). This is special. It is not forbidding meat-eating, but don't eat cows' flesh. That is loss. It is a great loss to the human society. If they do not have sufficient milk production, then their brain will be dull. They will not be able to understand subtle things. Therefore it is better to avoid it. But if you cannot avoid, you can eat some inferior, useless animals. But don't touch the cows. This is Bhagavad-gītā. Kṛṣṇa says, go-rakṣya. He never says, "Pig rakṣya." You can eat pig. You can eat the goats, the lambs. There are so many small useless animals. They are eating dogs also.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Dr. Theodore Kneupper -- November 6, 1976, Vrndavana|Room Conversation with Dr. Theodore Kneupper -- November 6, 1976, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. Not... Meat-eating is third-class man's eating. It is not denied. Amedhya. But to give us our life, don't kill cows, because it gives you milk, very substantial food. If you want to eat meat, you can eat the hogs and dogs. But don't kill the cows. Kṛṣi-go-rakṣya-vāṇijyam ([[Vanisource:BG 18.44 (1972)|BG 18.44]]). This is special. It is not forbidding meat-eating, but don't eat cows' flesh. That is loss. It is a great loss to the human society. If they do not have sufficient milk production, then their brain will be dull. They will not be able to understand subtle things. Therefore it is better to avoid it. But if you cannot avoid, you can eat some inferior, useless animals. But don't touch the cows. This is Bhagavad-gītā. Kṛṣṇa says, go-rakṣya. He never says, "Pig rakṣya." You can eat pig. You can eat the goats, the lambs. There are so many small useless animals. They are eating dogs also.</p> |
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| <div id="RoomConversationJanuary81977Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="16" link="Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay"> | | <div id="RoomConversationJanuary81977Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="16" link="Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay"> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay|Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That's all. So we are trying to do that. Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66|BG 18.66]]). It will be accepted by the devotees, not the karmī, jñānī, yogis, no. Only bhaktas. Therefore mad-bhakteṣv abhidhāsyati. So we have got two functions: first of all we are trying to make them bhakta, and then convincing him about this philosophy. Man-manā bhava mad-bhaktaḥ. Without being bhakta, nobody will understand what is yoga. The beginning is bhakto 'si priyo 'si me rahasyam ekam uttamam: ([[Vanisource:BG 4.3|BG 4.3]]) "Because, Arjuna, you are My bhakta, I'll explain to you. Otherwise it is lost." So without being a bhakta, nobody can understand Bhagavad-gītā. However he may say that "I am very staunch devotee. I am reader of...," he will misunderstand. So here Kṛṣṇa clearly says that "This is the most confidential knowledge. And without being bhakta, nobody will be able to understand." So the preacher has got two different businesses. One side, he has to make bhakta. The persons will... Because without being bhakta, he cannot understand.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay|Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That's all. So we are trying to do that. Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66 (1972)|BG 18.66]]). It will be accepted by the devotees, not the karmī, jñānī, yogis, no. Only bhaktas. Therefore mad-bhakteṣv abhidhāsyati. So we have got two functions: first of all we are trying to make them bhakta, and then convincing him about this philosophy. Man-manā bhava mad-bhaktaḥ. Without being bhakta, nobody will understand what is yoga. The beginning is bhakto 'si priyo 'si me rahasyam ekam uttamam: ([[Vanisource:BG 4.3 (1972)|BG 4.3]]) "Because, Arjuna, you are My bhakta, I'll explain to you. Otherwise it is lost." So without being a bhakta, nobody can understand Bhagavad-gītā. However he may say that "I am very staunch devotee. I am reader of...," he will misunderstand. So here Kṛṣṇa clearly says that "This is the most confidential knowledge. And without being bhakta, nobody will be able to understand." So the preacher has got two different businesses. One side, he has to make bhakta. The persons will... Because without being bhakta, he cannot understand.</p> |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 21, 1977, Bhuvanesvara|Room Conversation -- January 21, 1977, Bhuvanesvara]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Even by destruction of this body, we do not die. You know this? So we are part and parcel. If we are eternal, how Kṛṣṇa can be...? Hm? If my finger is eternal, how the body is not eternal? How the body can be dead? So why did He die like that, appearing as dead? That is His līlā. That He has, so many līlās. So why this līlā? Just to cheat you. You are atheist, and to keep you atheist forever, so that in your life after life you'll not understand Kṛṣṇa, therefore He is doing, just to cheat you. Because you are atheist, you cannot think of Kṛṣṇa properly. To keep you in darkness forever He manifests this līlā.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 21, 1977, Bhuvanesvara|Room Conversation -- January 21, 1977, Bhuvanesvara]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Even by destruction of this body, we do not die. You know this? So we are part and parcel. If we are eternal, how Kṛṣṇa can be...? Hm? If my finger is eternal, how the body is not eternal? How the body can be dead? So why did He die like that, appearing as dead? That is His līlā. That He has, so many līlās. So why this līlā? Just to cheat you. You are atheist, and to keep you atheist forever, so that in your life after life you'll not understand Kṛṣṇa, therefore He is doing, just to cheat you. Because you are atheist, you cannot think of Kṛṣṇa properly. To keep you in darkness forever He manifests this līlā.</p> |
| <p>Hari-śauri: But why would God want to keep the living entities in darkness?</p> | | <p>Hari-śauri: But why would God want to keep the living entities in darkness?</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Because you want to be. You are such a rascal. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā. Mūḍhā janmani janmani mām aprāpya ([[Vanisource:BG 16.20|BG 16.20]]). This envious atheist class life after life will not be able to understand Kṛṣṇa. For this purpose... Find out that verse.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Because you want to be. You are such a rascal. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā. Mūḍhā janmani janmani mām aprāpya ([[Vanisource:BG 16.20 (1972)|BG 16.20]]). This envious atheist class life after life will not be able to understand Kṛṣṇa. For this purpose... Find out that verse.</p> |
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| :yatatām api siddhānāṁ | | :yatatām api siddhānāṁ |
| :kaścin māṁ vetti tattvataḥ | | :kaścin māṁ vetti tattvataḥ |
| :([[Vanisource:BG 7.3|BG 7.3]]) | | :([[Vanisource:BG 7.3 (1972)|BG 7.3]]) |
| <p>It is not easy job. But still, some ideal institution should be there who are actually serious to understand. They may be given the chance. That must be there. In the university, when we were students, there were some postgraduate classes that no student was coming. But still, the university maintained that class, paying, in those days, 1,200, 1,500, salaries to the professors. They maintained that. So here there is no question of salary. Here the institution must be maintained, strictly following the principles of Bhagavad-gītā. It is open. It is not difficult at all. Just like Kṛṣṇa says the perfect life, how one can become perfect, man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru: ([[Vanisource:BG 18.65|BG 18.65]]) "Always think of Me," man-manāḥ, "just become My devotee," mad-bhaktaḥ, "worship me," mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru, "simply offer your obeisances unto Me." One, two, three, four-four items.</p> | | <p>It is not easy job. But still, some ideal institution should be there who are actually serious to understand. They may be given the chance. That must be there. In the university, when we were students, there were some postgraduate classes that no student was coming. But still, the university maintained that class, paying, in those days, 1,200, 1,500, salaries to the professors. They maintained that. So here there is no question of salary. Here the institution must be maintained, strictly following the principles of Bhagavad-gītā. It is open. It is not difficult at all. Just like Kṛṣṇa says the perfect life, how one can become perfect, man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru: ([[Vanisource:BG 18.65 (1972)|BG 18.65]]) "Always think of Me," man-manāḥ, "just become My devotee," mad-bhaktaḥ, "worship me," mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru, "simply offer your obeisances unto Me." One, two, three, four-four items.</p> |
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| <div id="RoomConversationMeetingwithDrSharmafromRussiaApril171977Bombay_3" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="141" link="Room Conversation Meeting with Dr. Sharma (from Russia) -- April 17, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation Meeting with Dr. Sharma (from Russia) -- April 17, 1977, Bombay"> | | <div id="RoomConversationMeetingwithDrSharmafromRussiaApril171977Bombay_3" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="141" link="Room Conversation Meeting with Dr. Sharma (from Russia) -- April 17, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation Meeting with Dr. Sharma (from Russia) -- April 17, 1977, Bombay"> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation Meeting with Dr. Sharma (from Russia) -- April 17, 1977, Bombay|Room Conversation Meeting with Dr. Sharma (from Russia) -- April 17, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: You have to accept. Accept or deny, it doesn't matter. You are young man. I say that you will become old man. You accept or deny, it doesn't matter; you must be an old man. Similarly, Kṛṣṇa says, tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13|BG 2.13]]), there will be change of the body. So you accept or not accept, it doesn't matter. It will take. But if I am going to change my body, and if I am eternal, na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre ([[Vanisource:BG 2.20|BG 2.20]]), then what is my next body, it should not be my concern. But nobody cares for it. "Never mind what body I am going to get next. It doesn't matter. Let me enjoy this body." This is animal civilization. The dog, at night barking, jumping, he is not able to understand, what is next life, what is rebirth, what is his... He cannot understand. But a human being can understand. So if he is put into the darkness, then what is the difference between animal and human being? So this is the problem.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation Meeting with Dr. Sharma (from Russia) -- April 17, 1977, Bombay|Room Conversation Meeting with Dr. Sharma (from Russia) -- April 17, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: You have to accept. Accept or deny, it doesn't matter. You are young man. I say that you will become old man. You accept or deny, it doesn't matter; you must be an old man. Similarly, Kṛṣṇa says, tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]), there will be change of the body. So you accept or not accept, it doesn't matter. It will take. But if I am going to change my body, and if I am eternal, na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre ([[Vanisource:BG 2.20 (1972)|BG 2.20]]), then what is my next body, it should not be my concern. But nobody cares for it. "Never mind what body I am going to get next. It doesn't matter. Let me enjoy this body." This is animal civilization. The dog, at night barking, jumping, he is not able to understand, what is next life, what is rebirth, what is his... He cannot understand. But a human being can understand. So if he is put into the darkness, then what is the difference between animal and human being? So this is the problem.</p> |
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