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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.25 -- Bombay, April 14, 1974|Lecture on BG 4.25 -- Bombay, April 14, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">To worship a type of demigod for certain type of benefit, at least it indicates that you can get the benefit from higher authorities. Indirectly the higher authority is accepted. Or otherwise we become atheist. To save the general people from atheism, there is recommendation for worship of different types of demigods.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.25 -- Bombay, April 14, 1974|Lecture on BG 4.25 -- Bombay, April 14, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">To worship a type of demigod for certain type of benefit, at least it indicates that you can get the benefit from higher authorities. Indirectly the higher authority is accepted. Or otherwise we become atheist. To save the general people from atheism, there is recommendation for worship of different types of demigods.</p> |
| <p>Generally, they are recommended—five: the sun-god, the Gaṇeśa, the Viṣṇu, Lord Śiva and Durgā, and... The sun-god I have already said. Five, pañcopāsanam. Five: the sun-god, the Gaṇeśa, and the Durgā-devī, then Lord Śiva, and then Viṣṇu. This is also gradual evolutionary. People in the most lowest stage of humanity, they are struck with wonder by the power. As soon as there is some electricity, they feel some power. So when there are power worshipers... The modern scientists, they are power worshiper. They have gone up to the sun-god. Not god, the sun globe. The power is received from the sunshine. So this is one stage, power. In this way, one after another, when one comes to the supreme powerful, Viṣṇu, because that is the ultimate powerful...</p> | | <p>Generally, they are recommended—five: the sun-god, the Gaṇeśa, the Viṣṇu, Lord Śiva and Durgā, and... The sun-god I have already said. Five, pañcopāsanam. Five: the sun-god, the Gaṇeśa, and the Durgā-devī, then Lord Śiva, and then Viṣṇu. This is also gradual evolutionary. People in the most lowest stage of humanity, they are struck with wonder by the power. As soon as there is some electricity, they feel some power. So when there are power worshipers... The modern scientists, they are power worshiper. They have gone up to the sun-god. Not god, the sun globe. The power is received from the sunshine. So this is one stage, power. In this way, one after another, when one comes to the supreme powerful, Viṣṇu, because that is the ultimate powerful...</p> |
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| | <div id="LectureonBG91518NewYorkDecember21966_1" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="317" link="Lecture on BG 9.15-18 -- New York, December 2, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 9.15-18 -- New York, December 2, 1966"> |
| | <div class="heading">The impersonalists, they worship in five ways, pañcopāsanā. They are called pañcopāsanā. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 9.15-18 -- New York, December 2, 1966|Lecture on BG 9.15-18 -- New York, December 2, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">There are five stages of evolution: śakta, then gāṇapatya, then saura, then śaiva, then vaiṣṇava. In this way, there are five stages. So the impersonalists, they worship in five ways, pañcopāsanā. They are called pañcopāsanā. So one, when he comes to the Viṣṇu stage, he comes to the real stage. But impersonal Viṣṇu, all-pervading Viṣṇu, but when he come to the personal Viṣṇu, then that is perfection of worship. So, so any kind of worship, the Lord accepts, in this way. But that acceptance and devotional acceptance is different. If you are worshiping materialism, that's all right. You get material benefit. Actually you are getting. You are getting. But that is not spiritual.</p> |
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| | <div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3> |
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| | <div id="LectureonSB2322LosAngelesJune191972_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="395" link="Lecture on SB 2.3.22 -- Los Angeles, June 19, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 2.3.22 -- Los Angeles, June 19, 1972"> |
| | <div class="heading">Generally, the Māyāvādī philosophers prescribe the form of Lord Śiva, the form of Lord Viṣṇu, the form of Durgā, the form of the sun, and the form of Gaṇeśa. Pañcopāsanā. These five forms. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 2.3.22 -- Los Angeles, June 19, 1972|Lecture on SB 2.3.22 -- Los Angeles, June 19, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The Māyāvādī philosophers, due to their poor fund of knowledge, they think that "The Absolute Truth is formless, but because we cannot meditate upon formless, something formless, let us imagine some form." Imagine. Nirviśeṣa-vādī, nirākāra-vādī, they imagine forms. Therefore, their philosophy, that "Any form you like, you can concentrate. Because after all, there is no form. But for your present facility, you can imagine some form." But there is also mistake on their part, because they say "Imagine any form." Generally, they prescribe the form of Lord Śiva, the form of Lord Viṣṇu, the form of Durgā, the form of the sun, and the form of Gaṇeśa. Pañcopāsanā. These five forms. But ultimately, you become "form-less." The example given by them is that you rise up to a upper place with a wooden stair, and as soon as you reach there, you throw it away, so that you'll not be able to come back again.</p> |
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| | <div id="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Lectures" text="Nectar of Devotion Lectures"><h3>Nectar of Devotion Lectures</h3> |
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| | <div id="TheNectarofDevotionBombayJanuary81973_0" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="21" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 8, 1973" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 8, 1973"> |
| | <div class="heading">Sometimes these pañcopāsanā Māyāvādī say that "Ultimately, the absolute truth is nirākāra. There is no form. But because you cannot worship or meditate upon the nirākāra, so just imagine some form. Either of Viṣṇu, or Lord Śiva or Sūrya or Devī." Pañcopāsanā, it is called pañcopāsanā. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 8, 1973|The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 8, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam also, Vyāsadeva says, in the beginning, dharmaḥ projjhita kaitavo 'tra ([[Vanisource:SB 1.1.2|SB 1.1.2]]). This dharma-artha-kāma-mokṣa, these are kaitava. Kaitava means phala visandi (?). I am approaching, I am trying to become a religious person, but my inner desire is how to make my economic position developed. This is my inner position, therefore it is called kaitava, cheating. So phala visandi. As Śrīdhara Swami says, that in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, phala visandi paryantaṁ nirasta. Phala is mukti. Mukti is also phala visandi. So up to mukti, then above mukti, there is bhakti. It is a mistaken idea that one has to attain mukti by bhakti. Sometimes they say that, these pañcopāsanā Māyāvādī, they say that "Ultimately, the absolute truth is nirākāra. There is no form. But because you cannot worship or meditate upon the nirākāra, so just imagine some form. Either of Viṣṇu, or Lord Śiva or Sūrya or Devī." Pañcopāsanā, it is called pañcopāsanā. Sādhakānāṁ hitārthāya brahmaṇo rūpa-kalpanaḥ. This is kalpana, he imagines. "Ultimately the Brahman has no form, but because you are accustomed to meditate on the forms, and it is very difficult for you to meditate upon the formless, so you imagine some form. This is imagine, not fact." That is their theory.</p> |
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| | <div id="General_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Lectures" text="General Lectures"><h3>General Lectures</h3> |
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| | <div id="LectureonScienceofKrsnaHyderabadApril141975_0" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="158" link="Lecture on Science of Krsna -- Hyderabad, April 14, 1975" link_text="Lecture on Science of Krsna -- Hyderabad, April 14, 1975"> |
| | <div class="heading">The demigods, if you accept that they are different part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa—there must be relationship with Kṛṣṇa—then it is correct. Just like it is said, sūrya, sūrya upāsanā, that or durgā upāsanā. These are different upāsanā, sūrya, or pañcopāsanā, durgā upāsanā, sūrya upāsanā, gaṇeśa upāsanā, and viṣṇu upāsanā. Pañcopāsanā. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on Science of Krsna -- Hyderabad, April 14, 1975|Lecture on Science of Krsna -- Hyderabad, April 14, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That is "I," Kṛṣṇa. That is "I," Kṛṣṇa. If you understand this demigod... Just like this finger. If you understand this finger belongs to Swamijī, then you are correct. And if you think that this finger is separate power, that is incorrect. This finger is powerful so long attached to the body. And if you cut the finger from the body, it has no power. Similarly, the demigods, if you accept that they are different part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa—there must be relationship with Kṛṣṇa—then it is correct. Just like it is said, sūrya, sūrya upāsanā, that or durgā upāsanā. These are different upāsanā, sūrya, or pañcopāsanā, durgā upāsanā, sūrya upāsanā, gaṇeśa upāsanā, and viṣṇu upāsanā. Pañcopāsanā. So how we can worship? Just like Durgā. Durgā is worshiped by the Vaiṣṇava in this way, sṛṣṭi-sthiti-pralaya-sādhana-śaktir ekā chāyeva ya... (Bs. 5.44).</p> |
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| | <div id="Philosophy_Discussions" class="sub_section" sec_index="13" parent="Lectures" text="Philosophy Discussions"><h3>Philosophy Discussions</h3> |
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| | <div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononWilliamJames_0" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="9" link="Philosophy Discussion on William James" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on William James"> |
| | <div class="heading">Śakti, Sūrya, Gaṇapati, Śiva, and then Viṣṇu-pañcopāsanam. This is called pañcopāsanam. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on William James|Philosophy Discussion on William James]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: There is also the demigods in charge of those different departments? Different demigods...</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: That is gāṇapatya. Gaṇapati, the worshiper of Gaṇeśa. Gāṇapatya.</p> |
| | <p>Śyāmasundara: Śakti.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Śakti, Sūrya, Gaṇapati, Śiva, and then Viṣṇu-pañcopāsanam. This is called pañcopāsanam.</p> |
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| | <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> |
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| | <div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> |
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| | <div id="MorningWalkMarch291974Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="48" link="Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay"> |
| | <div class="heading">Pañcopāsanam means that the Absolute Truth is impersonal. You can imagine as person like this. This is pañcopāsanam. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Pañcopāsanam means that the Absolute Truth is impersonal. You can imagine as person like this. This is pañcopāsanam. Sādhu kanam hita taya brāhmaṇa rūpa kalpana, kalpana.(?) "You just imagine one form." But Vaiṣṇava, he's not like that. Sac-cid-ānanda-vigrahaḥ (Bs. 5.1). (aside:) Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya. Sac-cid-ānanda-vigrahaḥ.</p> |
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| | <div id="MorningWalkMarch291974Bombay_1" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="48" link="Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay"> |
| | <div class="heading">Pañcopāsanam is not for the Vaiṣṇava. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Indian man (3): Because then those people were reading all so many śāstras he narrowed to five. He wanted the Veda you must read, Vyāsa-sūtra... (break)</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Beginning should be Bhagavad-gītā. (break) Pañcopāsanam. Pañcopāsanam is not for the Vaiṣṇava.</p> |
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| | <div id="InterviewwithMinisterApril261974Tirupati_2" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="73" link="Interview with Minister -- April 26, 1974, Tirupati" link_text="Interview with Minister -- April 26, 1974, Tirupati"> |
| | <div class="heading">In the Rāmānuja sampradāya there is no pañcopāsanā. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Interview with Minister -- April 26, 1974, Tirupati|Interview with Minister -- April 26, 1974, Tirupati]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Indian man: Lord Veṅkaṭeśvara, Subrahmaṇiya-sat(?) Swami, Gaṇapati, Vighneśvara.</p> |
| | <p>Minister: And Pancai Tattva.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Pancai?</p> |
| | <p>Minister: He is Rasa,(?) Sūrya...</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Oh, pañcopāsanā. (break) He is Rāmānuja-sampradāya?</p> |
| | <p>Indian man: Yes, Vaiṣṇava sampradāya.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: But the Rāmānuja sampradāya do not recommend pañcopāsanā. In the Rāmānuja sampradāya there is no pañcopāsanā.</p> |
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| | </div> |
| | <div id="RoomConversationJune201974Germany_3" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="125" link="Room Conversation -- June 20, 1974, Germany" link_text="Room Conversation -- June 20, 1974, Germany"> |
| | <div class="heading">The Hindus they think God has not particular form. And you can imagine any of them. That is Śaṅkara. The pañcopāsanā. But still Śaṅkara is very careful. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- June 20, 1974, Germany|Room Conversation -- June 20, 1974, Germany]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Guest: The process of change of consciousness which is actually taking place in you under many influences, I think.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Huh?</p> |
| | <p>Guest: Under many influences.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: No, influence should be only Kṛṣṇa or God. Kṛṣṇa, when we speak of Kṛṣṇa, God, but they have no clear idea what is God. How does He speak, how does He act. Where does He live. What is His form. What is his color. Nobody knows. Ask any religious people, "Do you know about all these?" (tape too faint to hear) (indistinct) If they think about it at all. First of all, generally they think of something impersonal or void. The Buddhists they think God is zero. And others they think God has no form. So, two classes. The Hindus they think God has not particular form, (indistinct). And you can imagine any of them(?) That is Śaṅkara. The pañcopāsanā. But still Śaṅkara is very careful. He has given five particular forms—the Goddess Durgā, Lord Viṣṇu, Lord Siva, the sun. Therefore there are sections—the sun worshipers, the fire worshipers. Originally, (indistinct). That is Vedic culture. Their Vedic culture means many demigods. But the original God is accepted, Viṣṇu. And original to Viṣṇu is Kṛṣṇa.</p> |
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| | <div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> |
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| | <div id="ConversationwithProfessorHopkinsJuly131975Philadelphia_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="143" link="Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia" link_text="Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia"> |
| | <div class="heading">The worshipers of Śiva are all impersonalists. They are pañcopāsana. Pañcopāsana means the ultimate, Absolute Truth is impersonal and Śaṅkarācārya recommended that you cannot worship the impersonal, so you conceive a personal form. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia|Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. Śaṅkarācārya's theory is the ultimate, the Absolute Truth is impersonal. And one can imagine a personal form for the benefit of the worshiper.</p> |
| | <p>Prof. Hopkins: But there are some worshipers of Śiva who would be personalists.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: No.</p> |
| | <p>Prof. Hopkins: You would deny that.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: They are all impersonalists. They are pañcopāsana. Pañcopāsana means the ultimate, Absolute Truth is impersonal and Śaṅkarācārya recommended that you cannot worship the impersonal, so you conceive a personal form. So that he recommended five: the sun-god, Lord Śiva, Durgā, and Gaṇeśa, and? What else? And Viṣṇu.</p> |
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