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== Conversations and Morning Walks ==
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=== 1977 Conversations and Morning Walks ===
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'''Hari-śauri: I just remember two or three years ago there was a thing... A pamphlet came out about introducing the varṇāśrama system in the society, but actually nothing came of it. Prabhupāda: Yes. That time was not right. Now you can do something'''
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<div class="heading">Hari-śauri: I just remember two or three years ago there was a thing... A pamphlet came out about introducing the varṇāśrama system in the society, but actually nothing came of it. Prabhupāda: Yes. That time was not right. Now you can do something</div>


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Satsvarūpa: But in most of our temples, the duties are either Deity worship, brāhmaṇa...


Prabhupāda: Brāhmaṇas are available. Why you are bothering about this? Brāhmaṇas are also available, śūdras are also available. Why śūdra should be artificially become a brāhmaṇa?
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<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation Varnasrama System Must Be Introduced -- February 14, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation Varnasrama System Must Be Introduced -- February 14, 1977, Mayapura]]:'''
Satsvarūpa: What will the śūdras do in the big city temple, in all the temples?
Prabhupāda: We are safe. We have taken to Kṛṣṇa's lotus feet shelter. There is no doubt. But . . . just like Prahlāda Mahārāja. He said that, "I am quite happy. I have no problem. But I am thinking of these rascals." ''Tato vimūḍha-cetasa indriyārtha'': "They have made the whole aim of life sense gratification." ''Indriyārtha''. And for that purpose, a few years, they're making huge arrangement, "How we shall become happy?" And next life a dog. It is risky. So as Kṛṣṇa conscious men, we should try to save them. That is the duty. But this civilization as it is going on is very risky. They do not know how nature's law is working, how he's going to be a dog next life. He does not know. ''Mūḍho nābhijānāti ''([[vanisource:BG 7.25 (1972)|BG 7.25]]). To save these mass people from falling down to the repetition of birth and death, that is welfare activity. To save them by Kṛṣṇa consciousness, we have to keep this ideal at least, ''varṇāśrama ''that, "Here is the position."
 
Prabhupāda: Why you are bringing our temples? I am talking of the principle.
 
Satsvarūpa: Oh.
 
Hari-śauri: The principle we follow. We're just thinking how it can be implemented. You were saying that it should be started in our society.
 
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is a very broad idea. Now we are speaking of some of them, training them. That is another thing. That is small scale.
 
Hari-śauri: The principle we're following.
 
Prabhupāda: Yes. In the... For the big scale, this is the required. In big scale you cannot make all of them as brāhmaṇas or sannyāsīs. No. That is not possible. This is a small scale. How many percentage of people of the world we are controlling? Very insignificant. But if you want to make the whole human society perfect, then this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement should be introduced according to the Kṛṣṇa's instruction, if you want to do it in a large scale for the benefit of the whole human society. Now we are picking up some of them, best. That is another thing. But Caitanya Mahāprabhu said para-upakāra. Why a certain section should be picked up? The whole mass of people will get the benefit of it. Then it is required, systematic. Sve sve karmaṇy abhirataḥ saṁsiddhiṁ labhate naraḥ. Para-upakāra means mass benefit, not there is certain section. Then we have to introduce this varṇāśrama-dharma. It must be done perfectly, and it is possible and people will be happy.
 
Satsvarūpa: It requires powerful influence in the society to...
 
Prabhupāda: Yes. If the leaders of the society, they agree. They are barking like dogs in the United Nation. They should take rightly the instruction of Bhagavad-gītā. Then everything will be all right. They're simply barking like dogs. What benefit is there? What benefit people have derived from the United Nation? Nothing. So if they want actually world peace, world unity, they must take the formula given by Kṛṣṇa. That is our duty. Because we are preaching Kṛṣṇa consciousness, so our duty is to convince that "You are uselessly wasting your time for unity, for benefit of the human... You take this. You'll be happy." We are safe. We have taken to Kṛṣṇa's lotus feet shelter. There is no doubt. But... Just like Prahlāda Mahārāja. He said that "I am quite happy. I have no problem. But I am thinking of these rascals." Tato vimūḍha-cetasa indriyārtha: "They have made the whole aim of life sense gratification." Indriyārtha. "And for that purpose, a few years, they're making huge arrangement, how we shall become happy?" And next life a dog. It is risky. So as Kṛṣṇa conscious men, we should try to save them. That is the duty. But this civilization as it is going on is very risky. They do not know how nature's law is working, how he's going to be a dog next life. He does not know. Mūḍho nābhijānāti. To save the mass people from falling down to the repetition of birth and death, that is welfare activity. To save them by Kṛṣṇa consciousness, we have to keep this ideal at least, varṇāśrama, that "Here is the position."


Hari-śauri: At this time should we try to introduce it in our centers or not?
Hari-śauri: At this time should we try to introduce it in our centers or not?


Prabhupāda: Always we shall try. Human society will be always there. We have to serve them, para-upakāra. We have to keep them in the right position.
Prabhupāda: Always we shall try. Human society will be always there. We have to serve them, ''para-upakāra''. We have to keep them in the right position.


Hari-śauri: I just remember two or three years ago there was a thing... A pamphlet came out about introducing the varṇāśrama system
Hari-śauri: I just remember two or three years ago there was a thing . . . a pamphlet came out about introducing the ''varṇāśrama ''system in the society, but actually nothing came of it.
in the society, but actually nothing came of it.


Prabhupāda: Yes. That time was not right. Now you can do something.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That time was not right. Now you can do something.


Satsvarūpa: That was the beginning of emphasis on farms when Prabhupāda said that, when more and more farms start, the idea of the vaiśya. But nothing else happened.
Satsvarūpa: That was the beginning of emphasis on farms, when Prabhupāda said that, when more and more farms started, the idea of the ''vaiśya''. But nothing else happened.
 
Prabhupāda: Every business is important. Brāhmaṇa business is important, kṣatriya... Just like the body. Head is important; the arm is important; the belly is important. They must be kept in order. Just like I am in trouble because my belly is not working. Digesting power is not good. So in spite of brain, hand, and leg, I am diseased. If any part of the society remains diseased, the whole society will suffer. Therefore they must be maintained in correct order. You cannot say if there is some trouble in the leg, "Neglect the leg. Take care of the brain." No. Brain will be taxed due to the pain in the leg. This is nature. Therefore everyone should be kept in order. Then things will go on. That is varṇāśrama. They do not know that. Sometimes they are giving stress... That communist is giving stress to the śūdra class, and the capitalist are giving to the belly class. And what about the head? What about the arms? And therefore topsy-turvied. Everything is disorder. There are two classes of men now-capitalist and communist. The communist is giving stress, "No. Simply the legs shall be taken care." What is called? Proly?
 
Hari-śauri: Proletariat.
 
Prabhupāda: What is that proletariat?
 
Satsvarūpa: The laborers.


Prabhupāda: That's all. These rascals are giving stress on the legs. And the capitalists, they are giving stress on production. And where is the kṣatriya and brāhmaṇa?
Prabhupāda: Every business is important. ''Brāhmaṇa ''business is important, ''kṣatriya ''. . . just like the body. Head is important; the arm is important; the belly is important. They must be kept in order. Just like I am in trouble because my belly is not working; digesting power is not good. So in spite of brain, hand and leg, I am diseased. If any part of the society remains diseased, the whole society will suffer. Therefore they must be maintained in correct order. You cannot say, if there is some trouble in the leg, "Neglect the leg. Take care of the brain." Brain will be taxed due to the pain in the leg. This is nature. Therefore everyone should be kept in order. Other things will go on. That is ''varṇāśrama''. They do not know that. Sometimes they are giving stress . . . that communist is giving stress to the ''śūdra ''class, and the capitalist are giving to the belly class. And what about the head? What about the arms? And therefore topsy-turvied. Everything is disorder. There are two classes of men now—capitalist and communist. The communist is giving stress, "No. Simply the legs shall be taken care." </div>
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1977 Conversations and Morning Walks

Hari-śauri: I just remember two or three years ago there was a thing... A pamphlet came out about introducing the varṇāśrama system in the society, but actually nothing came of it. Prabhupāda: Yes. That time was not right. Now you can do something



Room Conversation Varnasrama System Must Be Introduced -- February 14, 1977, Mayapura:

Prabhupāda: We are safe. We have taken to Kṛṣṇa's lotus feet shelter. There is no doubt. But . . . just like Prahlāda Mahārāja. He said that, "I am quite happy. I have no problem. But I am thinking of these rascals." Tato vimūḍha-cetasa indriyārtha: "They have made the whole aim of life sense gratification." Indriyārtha. And for that purpose, a few years, they're making huge arrangement, "How we shall become happy?" And next life a dog. It is risky. So as Kṛṣṇa conscious men, we should try to save them. That is the duty. But this civilization as it is going on is very risky. They do not know how nature's law is working, how he's going to be a dog next life. He does not know. Mūḍho nābhijānāti (BG 7.25). To save these mass people from falling down to the repetition of birth and death, that is welfare activity. To save them by Kṛṣṇa consciousness, we have to keep this ideal at least, varṇāśrama that, "Here is the position."

Hari-śauri: At this time should we try to introduce it in our centers or not?

Prabhupāda: Always we shall try. Human society will be always there. We have to serve them, para-upakāra. We have to keep them in the right position.

Hari-śauri: I just remember two or three years ago there was a thing . . . a pamphlet came out about introducing the varṇāśrama system in the society, but actually nothing came of it.

Prabhupāda: Yes. That time was not right. Now you can do something.

Satsvarūpa: That was the beginning of emphasis on farms, when Prabhupāda said that, when more and more farms started, the idea of the vaiśya. But nothing else happened.

Prabhupāda: Every business is important. Brāhmaṇa business is important, kṣatriya . . . just like the body. Head is important; the arm is important; the belly is important. They must be kept in order. Just like I am in trouble because my belly is not working; digesting power is not good. So in spite of brain, hand and leg, I am diseased. If any part of the society remains diseased, the whole society will suffer. Therefore they must be maintained in correct order. You cannot say, if there is some trouble in the leg, "Neglect the leg. Take care of the brain." Brain will be taxed due to the pain in the leg. This is nature. Therefore everyone should be kept in order. Other things will go on. That is varṇāśrama. They do not know that. Sometimes they are giving stress . . . that communist is giving stress to the śūdra class, and the capitalist are giving to the belly class. And what about the head? What about the arms? And therefore topsy-turvied. Everything is disorder. There are two classes of men now—capitalist and communist. The communist is giving stress, "No. Simply the legs shall be taken care."