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| | <div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2> |
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| | <div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3> |
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| | <div id="LectureonSB11531LosAngelesDecember91973_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="299" link="Lecture on SB 1.15.31 -- Los Angeles, December 9, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.15.31 -- Los Angeles, December 9, 1973"> |
| | <div class="heading">This Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is a challenge to all the rascals and fools, that's all. So those who have taken this movement very seriously, they should be very sober and understand at least you must expose all these rascals. That will be very much appreciated by Kṛṣṇa. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.15.31 -- Los Angeles, December 9, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.15.31 -- Los Angeles, December 9, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So brahma-sampattyā. So actually if you want to be happy, then you have to acquire this brahma-sampattyā viśokaḥ, then there will be no more lamentation. Everyone is... Know that it is our Father's property, Kṛṣṇa's property. So there is (indistinct) supply. Why you are fighting? There is no cause of fighting. Actually this is a fact. There's so much space still vacant—especially I've seen in Africa and Australia—ten times population can be accommodated and ten times foodstuff can be produced. But that they will not do. They will not allow. "No, this is my property. You cannot come here. Bow! Bow! Bow!" This is the immigration department, the "Bow! Bow! department." They say, "Why you have come here? Why you have come here?" We say, "It is God's property. Why you are making barking? Is it not your father's property?" But this ignorance is prevailing.</p> |
| | <p>So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is a challenge to all the rascals and fools, that's all. So those who have taken this movement very seriously, they should be very sober and understand at least you must expose all these rascals. That will be very much appreciated by Kṛṣṇa.</p> |
| | <p>Thank you very much. (end)</p> |
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| | <div id="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Lectures" text="Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures"><h3>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures</h3> |
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| | <div id="LectureonCCAdilila19MayapurApril21975_0" class="quote" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" book="Lec" index="9" link="Lecture on CC Adi-lila 1.9 -- Mayapur, April 2, 1975" link_text="Lecture on CC Adi-lila 1.9 -- Mayapur, April 2, 1975"> |
| | <div class="heading">Our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to become intelligent, not to remain mūḍhas, and to expose these rascal mūḍhas. That's this, our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. So you must be prepared. While making propaganda, expose these mūḍhas. That is one of the service of Kṛṣṇa. Don't remain foolish. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Adi-lila 1.9 -- Mayapur, April 2, 1975|Lecture on CC Adi-lila 1.9 -- Mayapur, April 2, 1975]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So this is wrong theory that matter automatically takes the explosion or something like that. Matter is handled by some superior living being. Then it explodes or whatever you call. It reacts. Otherwise, it is not possible. And because the living being takes the superior position for explosion of matter or reaction of matter, therefore in the Bhagavad-gītā it is admitted that the matter is handled by the living being; it is inferior energy. Both of them are energies of the Supreme Lord, but one is superior energy, another is inferior energy. That is the statement in the Bhagavad-gītā. Bhūmir āpo 'nalo vāyuḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.4 (1972)|BG 7.4]]), these material things—earth, water, air, fire—they are inferior energy. And Kṛṣṇa says, apareyam: "They are inferior. There is another, superior energy." Apareyam itas tu viddhi me prakṛtiṁ parā: "There is another, superior energy." And what is that superior energy? Now, jīva-bhūtā, "These living entities." Jīva-bhūtā mahā-bāho. The superior energy is not produced by the inferior energy. That is nonsense. The inferior energy is produced by the superior energy. This is perfect. We have got experience that the superior controls the inferior, not that inferior controls the superior. Where you get all this idea? Therefore it has been described as aparā and parā prakṛti. And what is that parā prakṛti? Jīva-bhutāṁ mahā-bāho yayedaṁ dhāryate jagat ([[Vanisource:BG 7.5 (1972)|BG 7.5]]). The whole world is being manipulated by this superior energy. Just like we have got experience that a human being, an engineer, he is creating a skyscraper building, not that a skyscraper building is creating an engineer. Where is this theory?</p> |
| | <p>So these are all nonsense, simply nonsense, mūḍha. Of course, we use this word mūḍha, and people become very angry, but what can I..., can we do? (laughter) The mūḍhas must be explained as mūḍhas. And because the mūḍhas are going as intelligent, therefore there is chaotic condition. (lizard making sound) There it is confirmed. So our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to become intelligent, not to remain mūḍhas, and to expose these rascal mūḍhas. That's this, our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. So you must be prepared. While making propaganda, expose these mūḍhas. That is one of the service of Kṛṣṇa. Don't remain foolish. Wherever there is required, fight with these mūḍhas and tell them rightly, straightforward, that "You are mūḍhas."</p> |
| | <p>Thank you very much. </p> |
| | <p>Devotees: Jaya Prabhupāda.</p> |
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| <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> | | <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 26, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- April 26, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Svarūpa Dāmodara: They say they cannot do at the moment, but somebody will come up in future so they can show. But they don't want to admit...</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 26, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- April 26, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Svarūpa Dāmodara: They say they cannot do at the moment, but somebody will come up in future so they can show. But they don't want to admit...</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: So that's all right, but, at the present moment, you are rascal. Somebody when come, intelligent, that is another thing, but you are rascal. So why you are leading, cheating others? That is our protest, that you know that you are a rascal, and you are cheating others to become leader. That is our protest. Why should you cheat others? Mūḍhaḥ. If he says that: "How do you know that I am rascal?" Because you do not know God. Therefore you are rascal. Mūḍhaḥ. Na māṁ prapadyante mūḍhāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.15|BG 7.15]]). If you are, would have known what is God, then you would have surrendered to Him. Then you are intelligent. But because you do not surrender, you do not know what is God, therefore you are a rascal. This is the definition of rascal. Jñānavān māṁ prapadyate. And intelligent means one who surrenders. He's intelligent. One who does not, he's rascal.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: So that's all right, but, at the present moment, you are rascal. Somebody when come, intelligent, that is another thing, but you are rascal. So why you are leading, cheating others? That is our protest, that you know that you are a rascal, and you are cheating others to become leader. That is our protest. Why should you cheat others? Mūḍhaḥ. If he says that: "How do you know that I am rascal?" Because you do not know God. Therefore you are rascal. Mūḍhaḥ. Na māṁ prapadyante mūḍhāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.15 (1972)|BG 7.15]]). If you are, would have known what is God, then you would have surrendered to Him. Then you are intelligent. But because you do not surrender, you do not know what is God, therefore you are a rascal. This is the definition of rascal. Jñānavān māṁ prapadyate. And intelligent means one who surrenders. He's intelligent. One who does not, he's rascal.</p> |
| <p>Brahmānanda: We have to expose these rascals.</p> | | <p>Brahmānanda: We have to expose these rascals.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. That is our business. (pause) Na māṁ prapadyante mūḍhāḥ duṣkṛtino narādhama ([[Vanisource:BG 7.15|BG 7.15]]), always engaged in sinful activities. And because they are sinful, they have been given food by nature: "Eat dog. Eat the snail. Eat stool." Are these things eatables? And those who are intelligent, Kṛṣṇa conscious? For them, fruits, flowers, cāpāṭīs, nice things.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. That is our business. (pause) Na māṁ prapadyante mūḍhāḥ duṣkṛtino narādhama ([[Vanisource:BG 7.15 (1972)|BG 7.15]]), always engaged in sinful activities. And because they are sinful, they have been given food by nature: "Eat dog. Eat the snail. Eat stool." Are these things eatables? And those who are intelligent, Kṛṣṇa conscious? For them, fruits, flowers, cāpāṭīs, nice things.</p> |
| <p>Brahmānanda: The swans and the crows.</p> | | <p>Brahmānanda: The swans and the crows.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: The swans and the crows. So expose them as crows. (pause)</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: The swans and the crows. So expose them as crows. (pause)</p> |
| <p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: The leaders in our society, nowadays, seems that they forget their own present moment, but they're thinking for their children, future.</p> | | <p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: The leaders in our society, nowadays, seems that they forget their own present moment, but they're thinking for their children, future.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: So how they are thinking? He does not know, what is the use of thinking rascally? One can think properly if he knows things. If he does not know, then what is the use of thinking? The madman also thinks. What is the use of such thinking? Now our thinking begins from the Bhagavad-gītā. Kṛṣṇa says: dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā, tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13|BG 2.13]]). As the body's changing from childhood to boyhood, boyhood to youthhood, similarly the proprietor of the body will change this body. At the last moment. Death means changing of the body. This is the... Now we can think. When there is proper subject matter, then you can think, how it is, how the changes. You have no proper subject matter, nobody is to guide you. What is the value of your thinking? Like dogs and cats? You do not know how to think. That is possible. How to think, that is possible in human life. So if you don't take up opportunity, how to think, then what is the use of your thinking like cats and dogs? Simply wasting time. The valuable life, you are wasting. Making experiment in the laboratory, nonsensically, that from matter they'll create life. You see. How this nonsense...? What is the use of such thinking? Which is never possible. These rascals are thinking on that, in that way, that they'll in future produce life from matter which has never been possible in the history, past, present and they're thinking; "Oh, bright future." That potter's thinking. Yes.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: So how they are thinking? He does not know, what is the use of thinking rascally? One can think properly if he knows things. If he does not know, then what is the use of thinking? The madman also thinks. What is the use of such thinking? Now our thinking begins from the Bhagavad-gītā. Kṛṣṇa says: dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā, tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]). As the body's changing from childhood to boyhood, boyhood to youthhood, similarly the proprietor of the body will change this body. At the last moment. Death means changing of the body. This is the... Now we can think. When there is proper subject matter, then you can think, how it is, how the changes. You have no proper subject matter, nobody is to guide you. What is the value of your thinking? Like dogs and cats? You do not know how to think. That is possible. How to think, that is possible in human life. So if you don't take up opportunity, how to think, then what is the use of your thinking like cats and dogs? Simply wasting time. The valuable life, you are wasting. Making experiment in the laboratory, nonsensically, that from matter they'll create life. You see. How this nonsense...? What is the use of such thinking? Which is never possible. These rascals are thinking on that, in that way, that they'll in future produce life from matter which has never been possible in the history, past, present and they're thinking; "Oh, bright future." That potter's thinking. Yes.</p> |
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| <p>Brahmānanda: Do they know the cause of cancer?</p> | | <p>Brahmānanda: Do they know the cause of cancer?</p> |
| <p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: Oh, there are several theories. (laughter)</p> | | <p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: Oh, there are several theories. (laughter)</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Suppose he knows the cause of cancer. What is the benefit? Neither he can stop cancer, neither a man suffering from cancer, if it is cured, he will live forever. That is not possible. Cancer or no cancer, a man has to die. He cannot check death. The death may be caused, if not cancer, simply by accident you can die. The real scientific research should be how to stop death. That is real scientific. That we are giving. To find out some medicine for some disease, that is not triumph. Real triumph is how to stop disease. That they cannot. Therefore Bhagavad-gītā puts before you the real trouble is this birth, death, old age and disease. That process we are giving. Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti kaunteya ([[Vanisource:BG 4.9|BG 4.9]]). After giving up this body, no more acceptance of material body. This is real science. (break) ...suffer from cancer. (laughter) They don't suffer from cancer. So they are in better position than the so-called human society. They are creating causes of cancer disease and then making research and taking Nobel Prize. How foolish society it is, this. Why you create the cause of cancer disease? You accept these four principles of life—no meat-eating, no intoxication, no illicit sex—there will be no cancer. There will be no cancer. You find out, those who are strictly on this line, they never suffer from cancer or any disease. Now take for example, me. I have come here in this country for the last seven years, 1965, and it is 1973, eight years. How many times I have gone to doctor? That once that heart attack. That is serious; that is another thing. Otherwise generally how many times I have gone to? I don't pay any bill of doctors. So if we live very hygienic life, regulated life, there is no question of cancer or any disease.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Suppose he knows the cause of cancer. What is the benefit? Neither he can stop cancer, neither a man suffering from cancer, if it is cured, he will live forever. That is not possible. Cancer or no cancer, a man has to die. He cannot check death. The death may be caused, if not cancer, simply by accident you can die. The real scientific research should be how to stop death. That is real scientific. That we are giving. To find out some medicine for some disease, that is not triumph. Real triumph is how to stop disease. That they cannot. Therefore Bhagavad-gītā puts before you the real trouble is this birth, death, old age and disease. That process we are giving. Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti kaunteya ([[Vanisource:BG 4.9 (1972)|BG 4.9]]). After giving up this body, no more acceptance of material body. This is real science. (break) ...suffer from cancer. (laughter) They don't suffer from cancer. So they are in better position than the so-called human society. They are creating causes of cancer disease and then making research and taking Nobel Prize. How foolish society it is, this. Why you create the cause of cancer disease? You accept these four principles of life—no meat-eating, no intoxication, no illicit sex—there will be no cancer. There will be no cancer. You find out, those who are strictly on this line, they never suffer from cancer or any disease. Now take for example, me. I have come here in this country for the last seven years, 1965, and it is 1973, eight years. How many times I have gone to doctor? That once that heart attack. That is serious; that is another thing. Otherwise generally how many times I have gone to? I don't pay any bill of doctors. So if we live very hygienic life, regulated life, there is no question of cancer or any disease.</p> |
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| <div class="heading">That is our protest, that "You are animal; you are passing as very learned scholar, scientist." That we want to protest. We want to expose them, that they are cheating people. They have no perfect knowledge; still, they are passing as scientist and big men and... That is our protest. | | <div class="heading">That is our protest, that "You are animal; you are passing as very learned scholar, scientist." That we want to protest. We want to expose them, that they are cheating people. They have no perfect knowledge; still, they are passing as scientist and big men and... That is our protest. |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- March 1, 1975, Atlanta|Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- March 1, 1975, Atlanta]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Nitya. Nityaḥ śāśvato 'yaṁ na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre ([[Vanisource:BG 2.20|BG 2.20]]). Why don't you see these references? It is never created. It is ever-existing, eternal. Only it appears to be temporary on account of accepting different material bodies. Therefore, paṇḍitāḥ sama-darśinaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 5.18|BG 5.18]]). One who knows, he knows that he has changed his body, the same person. Just like father, mother knows, when a son becomes very stout and strong, the mother sees that same child. Others may be bewildered. One who has seen the child very long ago, now he has become robust build, he cannot say. And the mother says, "He is my child, that child." So paṇḍitāḥ sama-darśinaḥ.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- March 1, 1975, Atlanta|Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- March 1, 1975, Atlanta]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Nitya. Nityaḥ śāśvato 'yaṁ na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre ([[Vanisource:BG 2.20 (1972)|BG 2.20]]). Why don't you see these references? It is never created. It is ever-existing, eternal. Only it appears to be temporary on account of accepting different material bodies. Therefore, paṇḍitāḥ sama-darśinaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 5.18 (1972)|BG 5.18]]). One who knows, he knows that he has changed his body, the same person. Just like father, mother knows, when a son becomes very stout and strong, the mother sees that same child. Others may be bewildered. One who has seen the child very long ago, now he has become robust build, he cannot say. And the mother says, "He is my child, that child." So paṇḍitāḥ sama-darśinaḥ.</p> |
| <p>Satsvarūpa: (reading) "For the soul there is never birth nor death, nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain."</p> | | <p>Satsvarūpa: (reading) "For the soul there is never birth nor death, nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain."</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: That's all. So where is the question of creation? But because we have got these material eyes, we want to see everything through this material manifestation. We are seeing that he is dead, he is alive, he is born, he is this, that...</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: That's all. So where is the question of creation? But because we have got these material eyes, we want to see everything through this material manifestation. We are seeing that he is dead, he is alive, he is born, he is this, that...</p> |
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| <p>Mādhava: We can, can we say that the living entity is there, and that he is the one that makes the molecules and the atoms come together to form a body, just like the scientists give explanation? No? We can't?</p> | | <p>Mādhava: We can, can we say that the living entity is there, and that he is the one that makes the molecules and the atoms come together to form a body, just like the scientists give explanation? No? We can't?</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: No. Because the living entity is there for the formation of his body, so many things are going on, action and reaction of the matter. That's all. That is depending on his desires. It is so subtle thing. He is desiring, and action, reaction is going on. And as soon as the living entity is not there, these action and reaction will stop. So they are trying to find out the missing thing. That missing thing is the living entity. That they do not know, foolishly. Just like a motorcar is running very nicely, and as soon as the driver goes away it stops. The machine is there, the everything is there, but this rascal mechanic, he comes, "Something is missing." And why something missing? But he does not know the missing part is the driver. He is finding out in the motorcar what is missing. The motor, everything is there. The hand is there, leg is there, heart is there, the intestines are there, everything is there. So they cannot explain. They say, "Now the blood has become white." Then make it red. Where is the difficulty? So they do not know what is missing; neither he'll take, I mean to say, learned instruction. That is their defect. Real thing is the driver is missing, but that they will not accept. They are so foolish, they are thinking that motorcar is running automatically.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: No. Because the living entity is there for the formation of his body, so many things are going on, action and reaction of the matter. That's all. That is depending on his desires. It is so subtle thing. He is desiring, and action, reaction is going on. And as soon as the living entity is not there, these action and reaction will stop. So they are trying to find out the missing thing. That missing thing is the living entity. That they do not know, foolishly. Just like a motorcar is running very nicely, and as soon as the driver goes away it stops. The machine is there, the everything is there, but this rascal mechanic, he comes, "Something is missing." And why something missing? But he does not know the missing part is the driver. He is finding out in the motorcar what is missing. The motor, everything is there. The hand is there, leg is there, heart is there, the intestines are there, everything is there. So they cannot explain. They say, "Now the blood has become white." Then make it red. Where is the difficulty? So they do not know what is missing; neither he'll take, I mean to say, learned instruction. That is their defect. Real thing is the driver is missing, but that they will not accept. They are so foolish, they are thinking that motorcar is running automatically.</p> |
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| | <div class="heading">They have no common sense even; still, they are scientist. That is our regret. They are less than common-sense man. That you have to expose, that these people have not even common sense, and they are passing on as scientist. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- March 1, 1975, Atlanta|Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- March 1, 1975, Atlanta]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Do you think this nice flower has come out without any brain, this nonsense philosophy? The so-called scientist will put some bombastic word, "this, that..." What is that explanation? Nobody can understand. It will be understood by them only. They will put some language in such a way that it is to be understood by them. Unless they explain, nobody will understand. They say it is automatically being done—nature. That's not the fact. Nature is an instrument. Just like this wonderful machine, computer. But still, there is operator. But they have no common sense even that where is the machine that is working without any operator? Where is that machine within their experience? How they suggest that the nature is doing automatically? Nature is wonderful machine, but the operator is Kṛṣṇa. That is real knowledge. Because the machine is working wonderfully, there is no operator? Where is that experience? Have you got any experience, Dr. Wolf, like that?</p> |
| | <p>Dr. Wolf-Rottkay: No, sir, I don't.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Then? Oh, we have got any experience? You have got any experience? Then why do you say nonsense, this? You have no experience, and you say something nonsense, ludicrous. They say "nature." What is the nature? Nature is a machine only. Just like the harmonium: it is also machine, but if one expert operator is there, it makes very melodious, "Oh, nice." Will the harmonium play automatically? And bring melodious sound? So they have no common sense even; still, they are scientist. That is our regret. They are less than common-sense man. That you have to expose, that these people have not even common sense, and they are passing on as scientist. That you must protest because you are servant of God, you are servant of the scientist. Call them directly rascal. Let them defend that they are not rascal. He brought some scientist. I called him, "You are rascal, you are demon, you are, (indistinct)," (laughs) but he tolerated. But means in... internally he accepted that he is a rascal. (laughs) Actually they... They have no common sense even. We are not scientist, but we speak from common sense, that's all. Yesterday or day before yesterday, I was talking on common sense on law points, so Rūpānuga said that "You are bigger than lawyer." I do not know that I am bigger than lawyer, but I was speaking on common sense.</p> |
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p> |
| <p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Like Kṛṣṇa's dealing with Pūtanā.</p> | | <p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Like Kṛṣṇa's dealing with Pūtanā.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Hundreds and thousands of miles, this fog, simply by two minutes' light of the sun... (break) ...working. If there was no sun, then so many ships are standing on the ocean. The cars, they are "bong, bong, bong, bong," so many disturbances. You see? You cannot do anything. Daivī hy eṣā guṇamayī ([[Vanisource:BG 7.14|BG 7.14]]). What you can do? Immediately He can kill you all. Thousands of planets immediately finished. Bring your science to protect them. "No, not possible." Māre kṛṣṇa rākhe ke. When Kṛṣṇa desires to vanquish, nobody can save you. Finished. Still, these rascals say, "There is no God." Simply rascals. At least expose these rascals. We have no power to kill them, but at least we can expose them. That is also great service.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Hundreds and thousands of miles, this fog, simply by two minutes' light of the sun... (break) ...working. If there was no sun, then so many ships are standing on the ocean. The cars, they are "bong, bong, bong, bong," so many disturbances. You see? You cannot do anything. Daivī hy eṣā guṇamayī ([[Vanisource:BG 7.14 (1972)|BG 7.14]]). What you can do? Immediately He can kill you all. Thousands of planets immediately finished. Bring your science to protect them. "No, not possible." Māre kṛṣṇa rākhe ke. When Kṛṣṇa desires to vanquish, nobody can save you. Finished. Still, these rascals say, "There is no God." Simply rascals. At least expose these rascals. We have no power to kill them, but at least we can expose them. That is also great service.</p> |
| <p>Hṛdayānanda: Sometimes, Prabhupāda, when we expose them, their argument is, "Oh, you are a saintly person. Why are you criticizing me?"</p> | | <p>Hṛdayānanda: Sometimes, Prabhupāda, when we expose them, their argument is, "Oh, you are a saintly person. Why are you criticizing me?"</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: No, it is not criticizing. It is opening your eyes. You are blind, you are thinking yourself as very big, so we are opening eyes. You are not big. You are not even pig or fig. That is... Ajñāna-timirāndhasya jñānāñjana-śalākayā (Śrī guru-praṇāma). You are blind with ignorance, so we are trying to open your eyes. See things as they are. It is favoring you. It is not criticizing you. (break) ...words: vibhu, the great, and aṇu, the small. So these rascals, they do not understand these two important words, "God is great; I am small." They think, "I am as good as God." This is the folly. (break) ...English proverb? "Where angels dare not, the fools rush in." Eh?</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: No, it is not criticizing. It is opening your eyes. You are blind, you are thinking yourself as very big, so we are opening eyes. You are not big. You are not even pig or fig. That is... Ajñāna-timirāndhasya jñānāñjana-śalākayā (Śrī guru-praṇāma). You are blind with ignorance, so we are trying to open your eyes. See things as they are. It is favoring you. It is not criticizing you. (break) ...words: vibhu, the great, and aṇu, the small. So these rascals, they do not understand these two important words, "God is great; I am small." They think, "I am as good as God." This is the folly. (break) ...English proverb? "Where angels dare not, the fools rush in." Eh?</p> |
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| <p>Hari-śauri: They're just copying.</p> | | <p>Hari-śauri: They're just copying.</p> |
| <p>Rādhā-vallabha: They can create fragrance: simply the bad smell of their bodies.</p> | | <p>Rādhā-vallabha: They can create fragrance: simply the bad smell of their bodies.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: "In future." They're competing with God, and without being success. Still: "I am God." What kind of God you are? And foolish men have no sense; they accept such rascals as God. They do not see what is God. How beautiful flowers, how nice arrangement. You cannot manufacture even one fiber, and still you deny God. Mūḍha. He's speaking, mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ sūyate sa-carācaram ([[Vanisource:BG 9.10|BG 9.10]]): "Under My supervision everything is being done." And you have got experience that unless one supervises, nothing can be done very nicely. So these things are being done under some expert supervision. This part is green, and this part it is red. Two colors are being transferred, transmitted. The flavor is not here, but here. What is this arrangement? There is no brain?</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: "In future." They're competing with God, and without being success. Still: "I am God." What kind of God you are? And foolish men have no sense; they accept such rascals as God. They do not see what is God. How beautiful flowers, how nice arrangement. You cannot manufacture even one fiber, and still you deny God. Mūḍha. He's speaking, mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ sūyate sa-carācaram ([[Vanisource:BG 9.10 (1972)|BG 9.10]]): "Under My supervision everything is being done." And you have got experience that unless one supervises, nothing can be done very nicely. So these things are being done under some expert supervision. This part is green, and this part it is red. Two colors are being transferred, transmitted. The flavor is not here, but here. What is this arrangement? There is no brain?</p> |
| <p>Hṛdayānanda: Superintelligence.</p> | | <p>Hṛdayānanda: Superintelligence.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: And still the rascals say there is no God.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: And still the rascals say there is no God.</p> |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Evening Darsana -- July 8, 1976, Washington, D.C.|Evening Darsana -- July 8, 1976, Washington, D.C.]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Here is a scientist. You have not studied properly. That is defect. So why defective knowledge you are declaring as knowledge? That is cheating. When you have perfect knowledge, then you declare. That is science.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Evening Darsana -- July 8, 1976, Washington, D.C.|Evening Darsana -- July 8, 1976, Washington, D.C.]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Here is a scientist. You have not studied properly. That is defect. So why defective knowledge you are declaring as knowledge? That is cheating. When you have perfect knowledge, then you declare. That is science.</p> |
| <p>Mr. Boyd: Then you advocate that Kṛṣṇa consciousness should be practiced in every action that you take.</p> | | <p>Mr. Boyd: Then you advocate that Kṛṣṇa consciousness should be practiced in every action that you take.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Everything is practice. Abhyāsa-yoga-yuktena cetasā nānya-gāminā ([[Vanisource:BG 8.8|BG 8.8]]).</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Everything is practice. Abhyāsa-yoga-yuktena cetasā nānya-gāminā ([[Vanisource:BG 8.8 (1972)|BG 8.8]]).</p> |
| <p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: Scientists at the present time, they say like this because their knowledge is simply illusioned.</p> | | <p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: Scientists at the present time, they say like this because their knowledge is simply illusioned.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p> |
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| <div class="heading">Bring one court case, and I shall sit..., go and sleep there, and expose them, item by item. I know my case is strong. | | <div class="heading">Bring one court case, and I shall sit..., go and sleep there, and expose them, item by item. I know my case is strong. |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- November 2, 1976, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- November 2, 1976, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa, in the dictionary it is said that Hindu God, but we are claiming, that Kṛṣṇian, Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa conscious. Kṛṣṇa conscious means "Godder than the Hindus." When you say we are not Hindu, that we are not restricted with the Hindi community. That is the meaning. Because Kṛṣṇa says, "I am for everyone." So why should we be restricted to the Hindi community? Kṛṣṇa says sarva yoniṣu, "In all forms of life, I am the seed giving father." Why He should be simply Hindu? This point should be stressed. Sarva yoni means eighty-four million..., eighty, eighty, 8,400,000s, all forms. Kṛṣṇa is for all of them. We therefore, why Kṛṣṇa should be restricted to the Hindu community? Hindus are included, but Kṛṣṇa is not restricted to Hindus. Kṛṣṇa's picture, that Bāla Gopāla, He's embracing the calves. Kṛṣṇa does not embrace only the gopīs, He's embracing the calves also. That is Kṛṣṇa. He's equal to everyone. Māṁ hi pārtha vyapāśritya ye 'pi syuḥ pāpa-yonayaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 9.32|BG 9.32]]). Pāpa-yonayaḥ, so many low-grade forms of life, they're also His... Devotees are part and parcel. Mamaivāṁśo jī... ([[Vanisource:BG 15.7|BG 15.7]]). Quote this: Kṛṣṇa is not restricted to the Hindu. We say, "We are not Hindu," means we are not.... We embrace everyone. We are not restricted to the Hindus. The so-called Christians, so-called Muhammadans, they..., we embrace everyone. </p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- November 2, 1976, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- November 2, 1976, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa, in the dictionary it is said that Hindu God, but we are claiming, that Kṛṣṇian, Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa conscious. Kṛṣṇa conscious means "Godder than the Hindus." When you say we are not Hindu, that we are not restricted with the Hindi community. That is the meaning. Because Kṛṣṇa says, "I am for everyone." So why should we be restricted to the Hindi community? Kṛṣṇa says sarva yoniṣu, "In all forms of life, I am the seed giving father." Why He should be simply Hindu? This point should be stressed. Sarva yoni means eighty-four million..., eighty, eighty, 8,400,000s, all forms. Kṛṣṇa is for all of them. We therefore, why Kṛṣṇa should be restricted to the Hindu community? Hindus are included, but Kṛṣṇa is not restricted to Hindus. Kṛṣṇa's picture, that Bāla Gopāla, He's embracing the calves. Kṛṣṇa does not embrace only the gopīs, He's embracing the calves also. That is Kṛṣṇa. He's equal to everyone. Māṁ hi pārtha vyapāśritya ye 'pi syuḥ pāpa-yonayaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 9.32 (1972)|BG 9.32]]). Pāpa-yonayaḥ, so many low-grade forms of life, they're also His... Devotees are part and parcel. Mamaivāṁśo jī... ([[Vanisource:BG 15.7 (1972)|BG 15.7]]). Quote this: Kṛṣṇa is not restricted to the Hindu. We say, "We are not Hindu," means we are not.... We embrace everyone. We are not restricted to the Hindus. The so-called Christians, so-called Muhammadans, they..., we embrace everyone. </p> |
| <p>And actually we are doing that. Why should we simply be compact within the limitation of Hindus? That is not our purpose. Then we would not have come to Western countries. We actually spreading universal brotherhood. Kṛṣṇa is the father and everyone our brother. We are claiming all our fallen brothers to become Kṛṣṇa conscious. This is our movement. Caitanya Mahāprabhu: pṛthivīte āche yata nagarādi grāma (CB Antya-khaṇḍa 4.126). This is our movement. Why you should be restricted to the India, and amongst the Hindus? Our Gods(?), They asked that "Go, go," bhārata bhūmite: you have taken birth in India, that's all right, make your life successful and go abroad, para upakāra. Janma sārthaka kori koro para-upakāra. This is our mission. We have come to you to make you civilized. This is our mission. And the best men of your country they are recommending. All the learned circle, they are coming. How can you defy us? If you have got brain.... You are trying to brainwash. Actually you have no brain to (indistinct) how important it is, this movement. You are trying to brainwash. We are not brainwashing. We are giving you good brain. That is our mission, that you are so dull-headed we have come to give you good brain. Su-medhasaḥ. Yajñaiḥ saṅkīrtana-prayair yajanti hi su-medhasaḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 11.5.32|SB 11.5.32]]). We have come to make you intelligent. Receive us well, for your benefit. Tell them like that. Bring one court case, and I shall sit..., go and sleep there, and expose them, item by item. I know my case is strong.</p> | | <p>And actually we are doing that. Why should we simply be compact within the limitation of Hindus? That is not our purpose. Then we would not have come to Western countries. We actually spreading universal brotherhood. Kṛṣṇa is the father and everyone our brother. We are claiming all our fallen brothers to become Kṛṣṇa conscious. This is our movement. Caitanya Mahāprabhu: pṛthivīte āche yata nagarādi grāma (CB Antya-khaṇḍa 4.126). This is our movement. Why you should be restricted to the India, and amongst the Hindus? Our Gods(?), They asked that "Go, go," bhārata bhūmite: you have taken birth in India, that's all right, make your life successful and go abroad, para upakāra. Janma sārthaka kori koro para-upakāra. This is our mission. We have come to you to make you civilized. This is our mission. And the best men of your country they are recommending. All the learned circle, they are coming. How can you defy us? If you have got brain.... You are trying to brainwash. Actually you have no brain to (indistinct) how important it is, this movement. You are trying to brainwash. We are not brainwashing. We are giving you good brain. That is our mission, that you are so dull-headed we have come to give you good brain. Su-medhasaḥ. Yajñaiḥ saṅkīrtana-prayair yajanti hi su-medhasaḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 11.5.32|SB 11.5.32]]). We have come to make you intelligent. Receive us well, for your benefit. Tell them like that. Bring one court case, and I shall sit..., go and sleep there, and expose them, item by item. I know my case is strong.</p> |
| <p>Hari-śauri: It's the strongest.</p> | | <p>Hari-śauri: It's the strongest.</p> |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India|Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So if sex life without this botheration, it is welcome. We welcome that. Sex is enjoyment; that is all right. But here it is condemned because it is entailed with so many botherations.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India|Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So if sex life without this botheration, it is welcome. We welcome that. Sex is enjoyment; that is all right. But here it is condemned because it is entailed with so many botherations.</p> |
| <p>Hari-śauri: We can practically establish both points.</p> | | <p>Hari-śauri: We can practically establish both points.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: (train starts again) Just like sex life is enjoyment, but a person who is suffering from tuberculosis—his death. He'll die if he indulges in sex life. That is medical science. So "It is condemned in the material world, not in the spiritual world. If you have good health, you can enjoy sex life. But you have tuberculosis? You'll die. Your sex life is death, and their sex life is life. That you cannot understand. You have such a poor brain that you could not follow even ordinary moral instruction of Jesus Christ." Answer should be given like that. "If you remain with your poor brain, don't try to argue. Be satisfied with your poor doggish brain, hoggish brain. You are like pigs and dogs. What you can understand about religion? First of all try to train yourself to be free from the sinful activities. Then you'll understand what is religion." Yeṣāṁ tv anta-gataṁ pāpam ([[Vanisource:BG 7.28|BG 7.28]]). Ultimately, a person, sinful man, cannot go to the kingdom of God. Is it not? First of all stop this sex life; then talk of God. It is a fact. When the order of Jesus Christ, "Thou shall not kill," for the last two thousand years these rascals have never stopped killing. They are simply increasing slaughterhouse. And... So they are so poor in understanding, they say animal has no soul.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: (train starts again) Just like sex life is enjoyment, but a person who is suffering from tuberculosis—his death. He'll die if he indulges in sex life. That is medical science. So "It is condemned in the material world, not in the spiritual world. If you have good health, you can enjoy sex life. But you have tuberculosis? You'll die. Your sex life is death, and their sex life is life. That you cannot understand. You have such a poor brain that you could not follow even ordinary moral instruction of Jesus Christ." Answer should be given like that. "If you remain with your poor brain, don't try to argue. Be satisfied with your poor doggish brain, hoggish brain. You are like pigs and dogs. What you can understand about religion? First of all try to train yourself to be free from the sinful activities. Then you'll understand what is religion." Yeṣāṁ tv anta-gataṁ pāpam ([[Vanisource:BG 7.28 (1972)|BG 7.28]]). Ultimately, a person, sinful man, cannot go to the kingdom of God. Is it not? First of all stop this sex life; then talk of God. It is a fact. When the order of Jesus Christ, "Thou shall not kill," for the last two thousand years these rascals have never stopped killing. They are simply increasing slaughterhouse. And... So they are so poor in understanding, they say animal has no soul.</p> |
| <p>Rāmeśvara: That is their excuse.</p> | | <p>Rāmeśvara: That is their excuse.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: But who cares for this excuse? It is not scientific. Is there any difference, anatomy and physiology, of the animals and the...</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: But who cares for this excuse? It is not scientific. Is there any difference, anatomy and physiology, of the animals and the...</p> |
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| <p>Hari-śauri: Seems only the Indian scholars have got that vision, though. Only the Indian scholars have appreciated that these books have a chance for saving the whole humanity.</p> | | <p>Hari-śauri: Seems only the Indian scholars have got that vision, though. Only the Indian scholars have appreciated that these books have a chance for saving the whole humanity.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. And that is our mission. We want to save.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. And that is our mission. We want to save.</p> |
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| | <div id="RoomConversationFebruary171977Mayapura_3" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="90" link="Room Conversation -- February 17, 1977, Mayapura" link_text="Room Conversation -- February 17, 1977, Mayapura"> |
| | <div class="heading">It is a good chance for explaining our mission. You should very carefully do it. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- February 17, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation -- February 17, 1977, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: In your calculation it may be that we are eating very small particle. But that is not the fact. We are eating sufficiently. That means you have no brain. Because you are eating raw meat, flesh, and you see that we are eating fruits, you say, "This is not sufficient." It is your calculation. Actually the fruits are meant for high-class, intelligent men. It is not meant for cats and dogs or elephant. Elephant may be very good eater. Does it mean he is human being? So you are just like elephant. You are calculating your other friends like you. (pause)</p> |
| | <p>Ādi-keśava: Sometimes, when they are making their statements, we wonder how they can be so unintelligent, how they can be so mistaken as to what is the goal of this movement.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: So you explain. Then Kṛṣṇa can do.</p> |
| | <p>Ādi-keśava: They're always accusing us that we are the cheaters. But every time, when we answer them, they are exposed as the cheaters. They are shown to be the ones that really don't know, yet they're all saying that they know.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: It is a good chance for explaining our mission. You should very carefully do it. (pause) Finish. Lay it down. (break) (devotee enters and offers obeisances) I was talking with Ādi-keśava that "There is no question of brainwash, but you have no brain." You have to prove. "How I have no brain?" "Because you do not know what is the difference between a dead man and living man. For centuries in the history, you people, you had no brain that whether the body is important or the active principle which is working within the body, that is important. You have no brain." Challenge them. Which one is important? The body's important or the active principle which is moving the body, that is important? What is important? Hmm?</p> |
| | <p>Tripurāri: Active principle, the soul.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: So what information you have got about the active principle?</p> |
| | <p>Tripurāri: They have no information.</p> |
| | <p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No information.</p> |
| | <p>Prabhupāda: Then there is no brain. Where is the question of brainwash? You have no brain at all.</p> |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Adi-kesava Swami -- February 19, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation with Adi-kesava Swami -- February 19, 1977, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hari-śauri: Yes. Same thing. Nobody wants the suffering.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Adi-kesava Swami -- February 19, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation with Adi-kesava Swami -- February 19, 1977, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hari-śauri: Yes. Same thing. Nobody wants the suffering.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: That is the difference. "Your brain is so filled with stool that you do not know how much sinful activities you are..., and how much you are becoming entangled in this material body. You are killing the child: you have to become his child again, or you have to become again a child, and you will be killed. And then you will enter another mother's body; you'll be again killed. As many child you have killed, you'll have to be killed so many times. You'll never see the light. In the womb, womb, womb, you'll be killed. So your brain is so filled up with stool, you cannot understand. This is your education. This is you education. We are trying to save you, that 'You'll suffer so much. You've made the situation so complicated. Better remain a brahmacārī.' If there is a little trouble without sex enjoyment, take it just like itching. Itching trouble, if you don't itch, it will not increase. And if you itch, more and more it will increase.' That is advised. Kaṇḍūtivan manasijaṁ viṣaheta dhīraḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 7.9.45|SB 7.9.45]]). One who knows, one who has got brain, 'All right, let me suffer little itching. I'll not itch it.' It will... This is intelligence. Tapasā brahmacaryeṇa ([[Vanisource:SB 6.1.13|SB 6.1.13]]). The suffering from the itching sensation by brahmacārī, that is recommended in our śāstra. Tapasya means voluntarily accepting some trouble. 'So I am feeling itching. I don't itch it. It is little troublesome, little. Never mind, I shall tolerate it.' "</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: That is the difference. "Your brain is so filled with stool that you do not know how much sinful activities you are..., and how much you are becoming entangled in this material body. You are killing the child: you have to become his child again, or you have to become again a child, and you will be killed. And then you will enter another mother's body; you'll be again killed. As many child you have killed, you'll have to be killed so many times. You'll never see the light. In the womb, womb, womb, you'll be killed. So your brain is so filled up with stool, you cannot understand. This is your education. This is you education. We are trying to save you, that 'You'll suffer so much. You've made the situation so complicated. Better remain a brahmacārī.' If there is a little trouble without sex enjoyment, take it just like itching. Itching trouble, if you don't itch, it will not increase. And if you itch, more and more it will increase.' That is advised. Kaṇḍūtivan manasijaṁ viṣaheta dhīraḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 7.9.45|SB 7.9.45]]). One who knows, one who has got brain, 'All right, let me suffer little itching. I'll not itch it.' It will... This is intelligence. Tapasā brahmacaryeṇa ([[Vanisource:SB 6.1.13-14|SB 6.1.13]]). The suffering from the itching sensation by brahmacārī, that is recommended in our śāstra. Tapasya means voluntarily accepting some trouble. 'So I am feeling itching. I don't itch it. It is little troublesome, little. Never mind, I shall tolerate it.' "</p> |
| <p>Ādi-keśava: They don't understand that that is voluntary. </p> | | <p>Ādi-keśava: They don't understand that that is voluntary. </p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Hmm?</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Hmm?</p> |
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| <div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2> | | <div id="Correspondence" class="section" sec_index="6" parent="compilation" text="Correspondence"><h2>Correspondence</h2> |
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| | <div id="1971_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Correspondence" text="1971 Correspondence"><h3>1971 Correspondence</h3> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="LettertoHiranyagarbhaDelhi22November1971_0" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="540" link="Letter to Hiranyagarbha -- Delhi 22 November, 1971" link_text="Letter to Hiranyagarbha -- Delhi 22 November, 1971"> |
| | <div class="heading">If you force him to speak he will expose himself, therefore he is silent. Even he remains silent, we shall speak very loudly and expose these bogus men. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Hiranyagarbha -- Delhi 22 November, 1971|Letter to Hiranyagarbha -- Delhi 22 November, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">A man is known by his notions and by his words. But sometimes it may appear that he is doing something, but he may be thinking something else. So a man is really known when he speaks, then everything is revealed. So if this Mayavadi sannyasi does not speak, then he can fool everyone. But if you force him to speak he will expose himself, therefore he is silent. Even he remains silent, we shall speak very loudly and expose these bogus men. Let our philosophy be challenged by anyone and we shall defeat them. I want that you distribute our books very widely, as many as possible, then people will get the right information. We show people by the results: so many centers, happy devotees, big books, strong conviction—like that. Let people judge who is better by the results.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="LettertoLocanaDelhi24November1971_1" class="quote" parent="1971_Correspondence" book="Let" index="542" link="Letter to Locana -- Delhi 24 November, 1971" link_text="Letter to Locana -- Delhi 24 November, 1971"> |
| | <div class="heading">We can challenge any nonsense philosophy. Socrates, Plato, Kant, Darwin—all of them—so many mental speculators and word jugglers who have misled so many people. Now it is your task to find them out and expose them, so that the people may appreciate the real philosophy. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Locana -- Delhi 24 November, 1971|Letter to Locana -- Delhi 24 November, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">I am very pleased that you have accepted the responsibility of managing such an important center as Berkeley. I know that there are many students in that city, so just attract them to our Krishna Consciousness Movement by giving them prasadam and our Krishna philosophy. We can challenge any nonsense philosophy. Socrates, Plato, Kant, Darwin—all of them—so many mental speculators and word jugglers who have misled so many people. Now it is your task to find them out and expose them, so that the people may appreciate the real philosophy. We must become now very serious to save the people of the world from this very dangerous situation. So become very convinced yourself of our philosophy and then your preaching will act. And try to sell as many books as possible at all the schools and colleges. This is scholarly information, flawless science. Kindly assist me in this great work, and know it for certain, that by your sincerely working in this way you shall very soon go back to Home, back to Godhead.</p> |
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| | </div> |
| | <div id="1972_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Correspondence" text="1972 Correspondence"><h3>1972 Correspondence</h3> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="LettertoPrajapatiMayapur25February1972_0" class="quote" parent="1972_Correspondence" book="Let" index="114" link="Letter to Prajapati -- Mayapur 25 February, 1972" link_text="Letter to Prajapati -- Mayapur 25 February, 1972"> |
| | <div class="heading">As for your training in theology, if you simply present some of the popular western points of view of theology and then point by point you may defeat them or expose them as speculators who are simply misleading the innocent public, and that will be a very nice service. |
| | </div> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Prajapati -- Mayapur 25 February, 1972|Letter to Prajapati -- Mayapur 25 February, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">As for your training in theology, if you simply present some of the popular western points of view of theology and then point by point you may defeat them or expose them as speculators who are simply misleading the innocent public, and that will be a very nice service, because when intelligent people begin to understand our philosophy and theology, that it is the Absolute Truth and that if anyone become Krishna Conscious, that is the highest perfection of understanding philosophy, then our Krishna Consciousness Movement will advance very quickly because everyone like the common people respect the opinions of intelligent scholars. So if you work in this way to convince the intelligent class of men, that will be very great service and also the proper use of your educational training. Thank you very much for helping me in this way.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="LettertoAmarendraCalcutta4March1972_1" class="quote" parent="1972_Correspondence" book="Let" index="126" link="Letter to Amarendra -- Calcutta 4 March, 1972" link_text="Letter to Amarendra -- Calcutta 4 March, 1972"> |
| | <div class="heading">I am very much serious that you all boys and girls should expose these Nixons and remove them, there is ample scope for protest in this Sankirtana Movement, and you yourselves be president, that is my hope for saving the misled mankind from total chaos. |
| | </div> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Amarendra -- Calcutta 4 March, 1972|Letter to Amarendra -- Calcutta 4 March, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Actual government means to give the citizens the highest welfare, that is, spiritual fulfillment and access they should provide to obtain without any difficulty the perfection of this human form of life. Otherwise, government means democracy, so now instead of one king who could rule piously, there are thousands of kings, each one interested in taking only some taxes for his spending, not for welfare. Nowadays, politician means pick-pocket, fooling the people who are innocent into voting them and then picking their pockets, because in two or four years they know they may be replaced by some other king so they take as much as they can. The people are innocent, we have seen this everywhere, even in Russia, it is only these rascal leaders who have spoiled everything by fooling the people for their personal advantage. So I am very much serious that you all boys and girls should expose these Nixons and remove them, there is ample scope for protest in this Sankirtana Movement, and you yourselves be president, that is my hope for saving the misled mankind from total chaos.</p> |
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| | </div> |
| | <div id="1973_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Correspondence" text="1973 Correspondence"><h3>1973 Correspondence</h3> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="LettertoSamaLosAngeles6May1973_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Correspondence" book="Let" index="169" link="Letter to Sama -- Los Angeles 6 May, 1973" link_text="Letter to Sama -- Los Angeles 6 May, 1973"> |
| | <div class="heading">We must expose these rascals by strong preaching and profuse distribution of these Krsna Conscious literatures. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Sama -- Los Angeles 6 May, 1973|Letter to Sama -- Los Angeles 6 May, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Thank you very much for sincerely pushing on Lord Caitanya's Sankirtana Movement in the city of Baltimore. Try to always increase the distribution of my books more and more. This is our most important program for reaching the lost souls of Kali Yuga. We have to educate men about the absolute truth. All of the scientists and other big men are simply cheating the mass of men by making false propaganda in order to take some money from them. We must expose these rascals by strong preaching and profuse distribution of these Krsna Conscious literatures.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="LettertoGovardhan2LosAngeles8May1973_1" class="quote" parent="1973_Correspondence" book="Let" index="172" link="Letter to Govardhan 2 -- Los Angeles 8 May, 1973" link_text="Letter to Govardhan 2 -- Los Angeles 8 May, 1973"> |
| | <div class="heading">The modern scientists are confusing everyone with their false propaganda and it is our duty to expose them and kill the demoniac tendency to forget Krsna. |
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Govardhan 2 -- Los Angeles 8 May, 1973|Letter to Govardhan 2 -- Los Angeles 8 May, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Please preach this Krsna Consciousness very strongly so that we may give people real light for seeing the way out of the darkness of Kali Yuga. The modern scientists are confusing everyone with their false propaganda and it is our duty to expose them and kill the demoniac tendency to forget Krsna.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="LettertoRevatinandanaMayapur5June1973_2" class="quote" parent="1973_Correspondence" book="Let" index="202" link="Letter to Revatinandana -- Mayapur 5 June, 1973" link_text="Letter to Revatinandana -- Mayapur 5 June, 1973"> |
| | <div class="heading">It is very important that we now expose the nonsense theories of these rascal scientists who assert that life comes from matter. |
| | </div> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Revatinandana -- Mayapur 5 June, 1973|Letter to Revatinandana -- Mayapur 5 June, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Yes, your article is very nice. It is very important that we now expose the nonsense theories of these rascal scientists who assert that life comes from matter. They say that life comes from some chemicals, but they cannot say wherefrom these chemicals have come. Actually, if we examine carefully, chemicals are coming from life, not life from chemicals. Just like the lemon tree. It is producing so many lemons. In each lemon there is so much citric acid. So, due to the presence of life, so many chemicals are being produced. Also, I have experienced, that one of my toenails has come off due to infection, but now my body is replacing that nail with another one of the exact size and shape as the one I have lost. If I have got such a potency to create, then what to speak of the Supreme Living Being lord Sri Krsna. If the sub-living entities can produce so much chemicals then what to speak of the Supreme living entity. This is called inconceivable potency. The living being has got an inconceivable potency to create. I do not know how my nail is coming. And the Supreme Living Entity or God, has got unlimited potency to create. I do not think that any reasonable intelligent man or scientist can deny. Aham sarvasya prabhavo, I am the source of everything, ([[Vanisource:BG 10.8 (1972)|BG 10.8]]).</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="1974_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Correspondence" text="1974 Correspondence"><h3>1974 Correspondence</h3> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="LettertoDamodaraHonolulu16January1974_1" class="quote" parent="1974_Correspondence" book="Let" index="29" link="Letter to Damodara -- Honolulu 16 January, 1974" link_text="Letter to Damodara -- Honolulu 16 January, 1974"> |
| | <div class="heading">We should expose before the public eye that the lowest class of men are now taking the posts of leaders, and therefore there can be no peace or happiness. |
| | </div> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Damodara -- Honolulu 16 January, 1974|Letter to Damodara -- Honolulu 16 January, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Your political preaching is encouraging to me. We should expose before the public eye that the lowest class of men are now taking the posts of leaders, and therefore there can be no peace or happiness. I have given the idea for a poster which shall be entitled: "Select Real Leaders—Don't Spoil Life", and it will depict devotees as leaders, illustrating that real leaders have to be free of meat-eating and animal slaughter, illicit sex, intoxication and gambling. This poster is being prepared in L.A. and I want it distributed all over the world, and you can use it widely in your campaign for Mayor of Washington D.C.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="LettertoHamsadutaHyderabad21April1974_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Correspondence" book="Let" index="146" link="Letter to Hamsaduta -- Hyderabad 21 April, 1974" link_text="Letter to Hamsaduta -- Hyderabad 21 April, 1974"> |
| | <div class="heading">Yes, by all means you may print my morning walk speaking about "Life comes from Life" into a small book; this argument should be spread, as any intelligent man will be convinced that our discussion is thoroughly scientific and exposes the so called materialistic scientists as rascals. |
| | </div> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Hamsaduta -- Hyderabad 21 April, 1974|Letter to Hamsaduta -- Hyderabad 21 April, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Your activities in book publication and distribution in the German and other European languages is very engladdening to me. I am enclosing the latest letter I have received from Wolf Rottkay and I am glad you have been able to engage him; cultivate this man, he is an important elderly professor in a U.S. university and wants to be engaged in Krsna Consciousness. Your chart for reporting book and record distribution is approved by me, as from this chart I can quickly see how the centers are doing. Yes, by all means you may print my morning walk speaking about "Life comes from Life" into a small book; this argument should be spread, as any intelligent man will be convinced that our discussion is thoroughly scientific and exposes the so called materialistic scientists as rascals. So go on printing and distributing as many books as possible; this is your real work and your personal success. From you report of an hour long kirtana at Moscow Airport, I understand that the sankirtana movement has already begun there and now it will go on further.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="1975_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Correspondence" text="1975 Correspondence"><h3>1975 Correspondence</h3> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="LettertoJagannathasutaAhmedabad26September1975_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Correspondence" book="Let" index="562" link="Letter to Jagannatha-suta -- Ahmedabad 26 September, 1975" link_text="Letter to Jagannatha-suta -- Ahmedabad 26 September, 1975"> |
| | <div class="heading">We can talk with anyone. Marx. Darwin, all professors and politicians, we can challenge and defeat them. Our philosophy is so perfect. So go on exposing them, that is the purpose of Back to Godhead paper, to expose their materialistic ideas as all nonsense and present the real philosophy that Lord Krsna gives. |
| | </div> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Jagannatha-suta -- Ahmedabad 26 September, 1975|Letter to Jagannatha-suta -- Ahmedabad 26 September, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">I am in due receipt of your letter dated September 15, 1975 with the enclosed copies of the latest issue of BTG No. 10. I can say that each issue you produce is an improvement on the previous one. This is very good. You are doing it enthusiastically. For the article of my touring they have selected the photos very nicely. We can talk with anyone. Marx. Darwin, all professors and politicians, we can challenge and defeat them. Our philosophy is so perfect. So go on exposing them, that is the purpose of Back to Godhead paper, to expose their materialistic ideas as all nonsense and present the real philosophy that Lord Krsna gives. This is the real knowledge.</p> |
| | </div> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="1976_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Correspondence" text="1976 Correspondence"><h3>1976 Correspondence</h3> |
| | </div> |
| | <div id="LettertoBhagavanLosAngeles4June1976_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Correspondence" book="Let" index="319" link="Letter to Bhagavan -- Los Angeles 4 June, 1976" link_text="Letter to Bhagavan -- Los Angeles 4 June, 1976"> |
| | <div class="heading">That is one of our businesses, to expose these rascals who are cheating and who have no spiritual asset. |
| | </div> |
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Bhagavan -- Los Angeles 4 June, 1976|Letter to Bhagavan -- Los Angeles 4 June, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">I have heard with delight of your preaching attempts in Corsica. That is one of our businesses, to expose these rascals who are cheating and who have no spiritual asset. We don't say publicly that they are rascal, otherwise they will condemn also, but by practical action they will see and compare. Simply chant and dance, distribute prasadam, and where possible some books. Nobody will be grudged. This is our duty, yare dekha tare koha krsna upadesa. Everyone is fed up with this rascal civilization of sex and wine. How long one can artificially live on this. They have no other asset. Therefore, people are turning to Indian culture. Let us push on. Others cannot push on, they have no asset.</p> |
| | </div> |
| </div> | | </div> |
| <div id="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Lectures" text="Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures"><h3>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures</h3> | | <div id="1977_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="12" parent="Correspondence" text="1977 Correspondence"><h3>1977 Correspondence</h3> |
| </div> | | </div> |
| <div id="LectureonCCAdilila19MayapurApril21975_0" class="quote" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" book="Lec" index="9" link="Lecture on CC Adi-lila 1.9 -- Mayapur, April 2, 1975" link_text="Lecture on CC Adi-lila 1.9 -- Mayapur, April 2, 1975"> | | <div id="LettertoRamesvaraBombay2April1977_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Correspondence" book="Let" index="81" link="Letter to Ramesvara -- Bombay 2 April, 1977" link_text="Letter to Ramesvara -- Bombay 2 April, 1977"> |
| <div class="heading">Our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to become intelligent, not to remain mūḍhas, and to expose these rascal mūḍhas. That's this, our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. So you must be prepared. While making propaganda, expose these mūḍhas. That is one of the service of Kṛṣṇa. Don't remain foolish. | | <div class="heading">Now we are forming scientists party and we shall try with their help to establish Krishna consciousness as the genuine scientific movement of the world exposing the so-called scientists as nothing but speculators. |
| </div> | | </div> |
| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Adi-lila 1.9 -- Mayapur, April 2, 1975|Lecture on CC Adi-lila 1.9 -- Mayapur, April 2, 1975]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So this is wrong theory that matter automatically takes the explosion or something like that. Matter is handled by some superior living being. Then it explodes or whatever you call. It reacts. Otherwise, it is not possible. And because the living being takes the superior position for explosion of matter or reaction of matter, therefore in the Bhagavad-gītā it is admitted that the matter is handled by the living being; it is inferior energy. Both of them are energies of the Supreme Lord, but one is superior energy, another is inferior energy. That is the statement in the Bhagavad-gītā. Bhūmir āpo 'nalo vāyuḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.4|BG 7.4]]), these material things—earth, water, air, fire—they are inferior energy. And Kṛṣṇa says, apareyam: "They are inferior. There is another, superior energy." Apareyam itas tu viddhi me prakṛtiṁ parā: "There is another, superior energy." And what is that superior energy? Now, jīva-bhūtā, "These living entities." Jīva-bhūtā mahā-bāho. The superior energy is not produced by the inferior energy. That is nonsense. The inferior energy is produced by the superior energy. This is perfect. We have got experience that the superior controls the inferior, not that inferior controls the superior. Where you get all this idea? Therefore it has been described as aparā and parā prakṛti. And what is that parā prakṛti? Jīva-bhutāṁ mahā-bāho yayedaṁ dhāryate jagat ([[Vanisource:BG 7.5|BG 7.5]]). The whole world is being manipulated by this superior energy. Just like we have got experience that a human being, an engineer, he is creating a skyscraper building, not that a skyscraper building is creating an engineer. Where is this theory?</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Ramesvara -- Bombay 2 April, 1977|Letter to Ramesvara -- Bombay 2 April, 1977]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Now we are forming scientists party and we shall try with their help to establish Krishna consciousness as the genuine scientific movement of the world exposing the so-called scientists as nothing but speculators. Svarupa Damodara has received very good response here in India from the scientific community and there is good hope that many others will join him. He is returning to America for preparing some publications and when these are completed I have asked him to tour vigorously throughout the world lecturing with his other colleagues at all major institutions and universities. He has drawn up a budget of immediate needs, a copy of which is enclosed and I immediately sanction this amount. Whatever expenditure he requires supply him immediately from the BBT. I am prepared to give $10,000 or more monthly if required to finance this most important preaching program. So whatever money Svarupa Damodara needs must be supplied monthly and he will send you accounts.</p> |
| <p>So these are all nonsense, simply nonsense, mūḍha. Of course, we use this word mūḍha, and people become very angry, but what can I..., can we do? (laughter) The mūḍhas must be explained as mūḍhas. And because the mūḍhas are going as intelligent, therefore there is chaotic condition. (lizard making sound) There it is confirmed. So our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to become intelligent, not to remain mūḍhas, and to expose these rascal mūḍhas. That's this, our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. So you must be prepared. While making propaganda, expose these mūḍhas. That is one of the service of Kṛṣṇa. Don't remain foolish. Wherever there is required, fight with these mūḍhas and tell them rightly, straightforward, that "You are mūḍhas."</p>
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| <p>Thank you very much. </p>
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| <p>Devotees: Jaya Prabhupāda.</p>
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