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| == Conversations and Morning Walks == | | <div class="section" id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2></div> |
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| === 1972 Conversations and Morning Walks === | | <div class="sub_section" id="1972_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1972 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1972 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div> |
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| <span class="q_heading">'''In Western country the boys and girls, they intermingle very freely. Therefore I, as far as possible, I get them married.'''</span> | | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Room Conversation -- February 12, 1972, Madras" link_text="Room Conversation -- February 12, 1972, Madras"> |
| | <div class="heading">In Western country the boys and girls, they intermingle very freely, and therefore I, as far as possible, I get them married.</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- February 12, 1972, Madras|Room Conversation -- February 12, 1972, Madras]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- February 12, 1972, Madras|Room Conversation -- February 12, 1972, Madras]]:''' |
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| Guest: Let them give. That..., but that is the smallest point. Another point is, I suppose in each institution, in each center, there are men as well as woman... | | Guest: Let them give. That..., but that is the smallest point. Another point is, I suppose in each institution, in each center, there are men as well as woman... |
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| Prabhupāda: ...and therefore I, as far as possible, I get them married.</span> | | Prabhupāda: ...and therefore I, as far as possible, I get them married.</div> |
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| === 1973 Conversations and Morning Walks === | | <div class="sub_section" id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div> |
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| <span class="q_heading">'''"Thou shalt not covet." And illicit sex and illicit man and woman intermingling is going on. Who's stopping it?'''</span> | | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London"> |
| | <div class="heading">"Thou shalt not covet." And illicit sex and illicit man and woman intermingling is going on. Who's stopping it?</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London]]:''' |
| It is clearly stated—I've asked so many Christians—that "Why do you kill?" Christ said "Thou shalt not kill." They want to support their killing process in so many ways. They'll never agree that "Yes, Christ says not to kill. We should stop it." No. They want to support it by various interpretations. That is conflict. Clear word is there, "Thou shalt not kill." And why they're maintaining so many slaughterhouses? | | It is clearly stated—I've asked so many Christians—that "Why do you kill?" Christ said "Thou shalt not kill." They want to support their killing process in so many ways. They'll never agree that "Yes, Christ says not to kill. We should stop it." No. They want to support it by various interpretations. That is conflict. Clear word is there, "Thou shalt not kill." And why they're maintaining so many slaughterhouses? |
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| Woman: But it's the same with Arjuna, wasn't it? | | Woman: But it's the same with Arjuna, wasn't it? |
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| Prabhupāda: But you are talking of Christianity. Don't talk of Arjuna now. If you talk of Christianity, don't take support from Arjuna. You talk of Christianity. It is clear statement, "Thou shalt not kill." Why you are killing? "Thou shalt not covet." And illicit sex and illicit man and woman intermingling is going on. Who's stopping it?</span> | | Prabhupāda: But you are talking of Christianity. Don't talk of Arjuna now. If you talk of Christianity, don't take support from Arjuna. You talk of Christianity. It is clear statement, "Thou shalt not kill." Why you are killing? "Thou shalt not covet." And illicit sex and illicit man and woman intermingling is going on. Who's stopping it?</div> |
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| <span class="q_heading">'''That inter-relationship is already there. I am walking on this sand. I have got some relationship. If the sand would have been soft, I could not walk. So the relationship is there already, intermingled.'''</span> | | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Morning Walk -- December 13, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 13, 1973, Los Angeles"> |
| | <div class="heading">That inter-relationship is already there. I am walking on this sand. I have got some relationship. If the sand would have been soft, I could not walk. So the relationship is there already, intermingled.</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 13, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 13, 1973, Los Angeles]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 13, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 13, 1973, Los Angeles]]:''' |
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| Prabhupāda: Relationship... Wherever you go, there is some relationship. That is... That inter-relationship is already there. I am walking on this sand. I have got some relationship. If the sand would have been soft, I could not walk. So the relationship is there already, intermingled. But what is the central relationship? That is wanted, to know. That is God.</span> | | Prabhupāda: Relationship... Wherever you go, there is some relationship. That is... That inter-relationship is already there. I am walking on this sand. I have got some relationship. If the sand would have been soft, I could not walk. So the relationship is there already, intermingled. But what is the central relationship? That is wanted, to know. That is God.</div> |
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| === 1975 Conversations and Morning Walks === | | <div class="sub_section" id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div> |
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| <span class="q_heading">'''This too much intermingling of woman means the path of hell. Therefore the restriction is that only the married couple can freely mix, not others.'''</span> | | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Morning Walk -- May 21, 1975, Melbourne" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 21, 1975, Melbourne"> |
| | <div class="heading">This too much intermingling of woman means the path of hell. Therefore the restriction is that only the married couple can freely mix, not others.</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 21, 1975, Melbourne|Morning Walk -- May 21, 1975, Melbourne]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 21, 1975, Melbourne|Morning Walk -- May 21, 1975, Melbourne]]:''' |
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| Prabhupāda: Oh. And this path is not dangerous? (laughter) Everything is dangerous in the material world. Padaṁ padaṁ yad vipadām [SB 10.14.58]. In every step there is danger. That is material life. [break] ...they claim equal rights man and woman. Why in the lavatory they are different? | | Prabhupāda: Oh. And this path is not dangerous? (laughter) Everything is dangerous in the material world. Padaṁ padaṁ yad vipadām [SB 10.14.58]. In every step there is danger. That is material life. [break] ...they claim equal rights man and woman. Why in the lavatory they are different? |
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| Prabhupāda: That means they are gliding down towards hell, that's all. Yoṣitāṁ saṅgi-saṅgam. Now they are coming to the platform of homosex. This is their advancement, spiritual advancement. Yoṣitāṁ saṅgi-saṅgam. This is Coca-cola, everywhere.</span> | | Prabhupāda: That means they are gliding down towards hell, that's all. Yoṣitāṁ saṅgi-saṅgam. Now they are coming to the platform of homosex. This is their advancement, spiritual advancement. Yoṣitāṁ saṅgi-saṅgam. This is Coca-cola, everywhere.</div> |
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| <span class="q_heading">'''There is no question of Eastern, Western. Now people are intermingling.'''</span> | | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Conversation with Clergymen -- June 15, 1976, Detroit" link_text="Conversation with Clergymen -- June 15, 1976, Detroit"> |
| | <div class="heading">There is no question of Eastern, Western. Now people are intermingling.</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Conversation with Clergymen -- June 15, 1976, Detroit|Conversation with Clergymen -- June 15, 1976, Detroit]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Conversation with Clergymen -- June 15, 1976, Detroit|Conversation with Clergymen -- June 15, 1976, Detroit]]:''' |
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| Prabhupāda: I shall request that.... There is no question of Eastern, Western. Now people are intermingling. Now I think that we shall have institution, especially in America, to train these first class, second class, third class, and the balance fourth class. Who cannot take up any training, they are fourth class. So how they should be trained up, that indication is there. It is not the question of Eastern and Western. You become peaceful...</span> | | Prabhupāda: I shall request that.... There is no question of Eastern, Western. Now people are intermingling. Now I think that we shall have institution, especially in America, to train these first class, second class, third class, and the balance fourth class. Who cannot take up any training, they are fourth class. So how they should be trained up, that indication is there. It is not the question of Eastern and Western. You become peaceful...</div> |
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| <span class="q_heading">'''The bābājīs, I heard, they say, "What is the wrong there? It is love." They say like that. They take it as love. "Gopī's love," they say. "Gopī's used to do that, used to have illicit mixing, intermingling with Kṛṣṇa. What is wrong?" They'll say. They get support from Kṛṣṇa līlā. Such rogues they are. Sahajiyās. There are many so-called gentlemen, they write books on Kṛṣṇa līlā, paint picture." This is very nice. Kṛṣṇa is advocating illicit intermingling." They take it as support of their sinful activities.'''</span> | | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Room Conversation -- September 7, 1976, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation -- September 7, 1976, Vrndavana"> |
| | <div class="heading">The bābājīs, I heard, they say, "What is the wrong there? It is love." They say like that. They take it as love. "Gopī's love," they say. "Gopī's used to do that, used to have illicit mixing, intermingling with Kṛṣṇa. What is wrong?" They'll say. They get support from Kṛṣṇa līlā. Such rogues they are. Sahajiyās.</div> |
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| <span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- September 7, 1976, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- September 7, 1976, Vrndavana]]:''' | | <div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- September 7, 1976, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- September 7, 1976, Vrndavana]]:''' |
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| Prabhupāda: But not that willfully do something wrong. There is punishment. If one unconsciously, without any knowledge, does something wrong, that is excused. But they do willfully. They know it is wrong, still they do it. That is punished. Knowingly. Caitanya Mahāprabhu personally said, asat eka strī-saṅgī. Those who are habituated to illicit sex are punishable. Asat. It is very, very bad. And still if somebody does like that, he is punished. This is going on. "All right." Here illicit sex... The bābājīs, I heard, they say, "What is the wrong there? It is love." They say like that. They take it as love. "Gopī's love," they say. "Gopī's used to do that, used to have illicit mixing, intermingling with Kṛṣṇa. What is wrong?" They'll say. They get support from Kṛṣṇa līlā. Such rogues they are. Sahajiyās. There are many so-called gentlemen, they write books on Kṛṣṇa līlā, paint picture." This is very nice. Kṛṣṇa is advocating illicit intermingling." They take it as support of their sinful activities. I have seen personally. Anyone who is a woman-hunter, he's being addressed by his friend, "Oh, you are like Kṛṣṇa." They take Kṛṣṇa as a man. How they will take instruction of Kṛṣṇa? Avajānanti māṁ mūḍhāḥ [Bg. 9.11]. Paraṁ bhāvam ajānantaḥ. We are teaching people to become Kṛṣṇa conscious, to become servant of Kṛṣṇa, and the so-called gentlemen, enlightened gentlemen, take Kṛṣṇa as a debauch. Black debauch.</span> | | Prabhupāda: But not that willfully do something wrong. There is punishment. If one unconsciously, without any knowledge, does something wrong, that is excused. But they do willfully. They know it is wrong, still they do it. That is punished. Knowingly. Caitanya Mahāprabhu personally said, asat eka strī-saṅgī. Those who are habituated to illicit sex are punishable. Asat. It is very, very bad. And still if somebody does like that, he is punished. This is going on. "All right." Here illicit sex... The bābājīs, I heard, they say, "What is the wrong there? It is love." They say like that. They take it as love. "Gopī's love," they say. "Gopī's used to do that, used to have illicit mixing, intermingling with Kṛṣṇa. What is wrong?" They'll say. They get support from Kṛṣṇa līlā. Such rogues they are. Sahajiyās. There are many so-called gentlemen, they write books on Kṛṣṇa līlā, paint picture." This is very nice. Kṛṣṇa is advocating illicit intermingling." They take it as support of their sinful activities. I have seen personally. Anyone who is a woman-hunter, he's being addressed by his friend, "Oh, you are like Kṛṣṇa." They take Kṛṣṇa as a man. How they will take instruction of Kṛṣṇa? Avajānanti māṁ mūḍhāḥ [Bg. 9.11]. Paraṁ bhāvam ajānantaḥ. We are teaching people to become Kṛṣṇa conscious, to become servant of Kṛṣṇa, and the so-called gentlemen, enlightened gentlemen, take Kṛṣṇa as a debauch. Black debauch.</div> |
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| <span class="q_heading">'''When you come here, if you get husband we have no objection. But don't canvass. That is not good. And that is making our sannyāsīs fall down. Of course, it is difficult, that young men, young women living, intermingling. But Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to reform everything.'''</span> | | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Room Conversation -- January 7, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- January 7, 1977, Bombay"> |
| | <div class="heading">But when you come here, if you get husband we have no objection. But don't canvass. That is not good. And that is making our sannyāsīs fall down. Of course, it is difficult, that young men, young women living, intermingling. But it is... Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to reform everything.</div> |
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| Jagadīśa: Most of the women, or at least many of the women in our society, have neither father, husband or sons. | | Jagadīśa: Most of the women, or at least many of the women in our society, have neither father, husband or sons. |
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| <span class="q_heading">'''Here in the Western country it is their custom to mix, intermingle freely. How can I stop it? I may stop in my temple, but they will do it outside. So it is impossible.'''</span> | | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Morning Walk -- January 9, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- January 9, 1977, Bombay"> |
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| <span class="q_heading">'''But the system—the boys and girls intermingle so freely, and in your country there is no restriction—naturally it becomes adulterated. That is the danger.'''</span> | | <div class="quote" book="Con" link="Room Conversation -- February 27, 1977, Mayapura" link_text="Room Conversation -- February 27, 1977, Mayapura"> |
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