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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with U.N. Doctor -- September 29, 1976, Vrndavana|Room Conversation with U.N. Doctor -- September 29, 1976, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Well now, Kṛṣṇa... You... Whatever you think, that is your business, but Kṛṣṇa is there everywhere.</p> | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with U.N. Doctor -- September 29, 1976, Vrndavana|Room Conversation with U.N. Doctor -- September 29, 1976, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Well now, Kṛṣṇa... You... Whatever you think, that is your business, but Kṛṣṇa is there everywhere.</p> |
| <p>Doctor: He is nirākāra and sākāra.</p> | | <p>Doctor: He is nirākāra and sākāra.</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Nirākāra means He has no material ākāra. That is nirākāra. Ākāra means we have got... Just like I have conception of you. So this ākāra is your material ākāra. It is not your real ākāra. Dehino 'smin yathā dehe ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13|BG 2.13]]). The real person is within the body, but we have no connection with the real body. We see this outward... Just like seeing his dress, his... That's all.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Nirākāra means He has no material ākāra. That is nirākāra. Ākāra means we have got... Just like I have conception of you. So this ākāra is your material ākāra. It is not your real ākāra. Dehino 'smin yathā dehe ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]). The real person is within the body, but we have no connection with the real body. We see this outward... Just like seeing his dress, his... That's all.</p> |
| <p>Doctor: How to find the...? How to get to the ātman, the inner body?</p> | | <p>Doctor: How to find the...? How to get to the ātman, the inner body?</p> |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes, that is the first instruction in the Bhagavad-gītā, that first of all, try to understand what is the person. So because we have no eyes to see, indirectly dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāram... ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13|BG 2.13]]). Na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre ([[Vanisource:BG 2.20|BG 2.20]]). Antavanta ime dehā nityasyoktāḥ śarīriṇaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.18|BG 2.18]]). So many things. Nainaṁ dahati pāvakaḥ. So many indirect way because we cannot directly perceive.</p> | | <p>Prabhupāda: Yes, that is the first instruction in the Bhagavad-gītā, that first of all, try to understand what is the person. So because we have no eyes to see, indirectly dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāram... ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]). Na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre ([[Vanisource:BG 2.20 (1972)|BG 2.20]]). Antavanta ime dehā nityasyoktāḥ śarīriṇaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.18 (1972)|BG 2.18]]). So many things. Nainaṁ dahati pāvakaḥ. So many indirect way because we cannot directly perceive.</p> |
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