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<div id="ISO7_0" class="quote" parent="Sri_Isopanisad" book="OB" index="9" link="ISO 7" link_text="Sri Isopanisad 7">
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<div class="heading">The living beings who are encaged in the material tabernacle are constantly seeking enjoyment, but they are seeking it on the wrong platform.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:ISO 7|Sri Isopanisad 7, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The spiritual entities are meant for enjoyment, as stated in the Vedānta-sūtra (1.1.12): ānanda-mayo 'bhyāsāt. By nature and constitution, every living being—including the Supreme Lord and each of His parts and parcels—is meant for eternal enjoyment. The living beings who are encaged in the material tabernacle are constantly seeking enjoyment, but they are seeking it on the wrong platform. Apart from the material platform is the spiritual platform, where the Supreme Being enjoys Himself with His innumerable associates. On that platform there is no trace of material qualities, and therefore that platform is called nirguṇa. On the nirguṇa platform there is never a clash over the object of enjoyment. Here in the material world there is always a clash between different individual beings because here the proper center of enjoyment is missed. The real center of enjoyment is the Supreme Lord, who is the center of the sublime and spiritual rāsa dance. We are all meant to join Him and enjoy life with one transcendental interest and without any clash. That is the highest platform of spiritual interest, and as soon as one realizes this perfect form of oneness, there can be no question of illusion (moha) or lamentation (śoka).</p>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:ISO 7|Sri Isopanisad 7, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The spiritual entities are meant for enjoyment, as stated in the Vedānta-sūtra (1.1.12): ānanda-mayo 'bhyāsāt. By nature and constitution, every living being—including the Supreme Lord and each of His parts and parcels—is meant for eternal enjoyment. The living beings who are encaged in the material tabernacle are constantly seeking enjoyment, but they are seeking it on the wrong platform. Apart from the material platform is the spiritual platform, where the Supreme Being enjoys Himself with His innumerable associates. On that platform there is no trace of material qualities, and therefore that platform is called nirguṇa. On the nirguṇa platform there is never a clash over the object of enjoyment. Here in the material world there is always a clash between different individual beings because here the proper center of enjoyment is missed. The real center of enjoyment is the Supreme Lord, who is the center of the sublime and spiritual rāsa dance. We are all meant to join Him and enjoy life with one transcendental interest and without any clash. That is the highest platform of spiritual interest, and as soon as one realizes this perfect form of oneness, there can be no question of illusion (moha) or lamentation (śoka).</p>
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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2>
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonSB11531LosAngelesDecember91973_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="299" link="Lecture on SB 1.15.31 -- Los Angeles, December 9, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.15.31 -- Los Angeles, December 9, 1973">
<div class="heading">The basic principle is cheating. Wrong. And on the wrong platform they are building phantasmagoria, big, big ideas.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.15.31 -- Los Angeles, December 9, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.15.31 -- Los Angeles, December 9, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This is our charge against this so-called advancement of life. And they are forgetting real thing. They do not understand what is soul. They do not understand. They do not understand that the soul is transmigrating from one body to another. Soul is immortal. Soul is eternal. These things are described in the Bhagavad-gītā. In the beginning, this is the beginning lesson: dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāram ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]). This is the beginning of spiritual understanding. But they do not understand this beginning lesson, and still they are advanced. This is going on. Simply cheating. So this cheating process is going on under the misconception that "I am this body." The basic principle is cheating. Wrong. And on the wrong platform they are building phantasmagoria, big, big ideas.</p>
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithRobertGouiranNuclearPhysicistfromEuropeanCenterforNuclearResearchJune51974Geneva_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="100" link="Room Conversation with Robert Gouiran, Nuclear Physicist from European Center for Nuclear Research -- June 5, 1974, Geneva" link_text="Room Conversation with Robert Gouiran, Nuclear Physicist from European Center for Nuclear Research -- June 5, 1974, Geneva">
<div class="heading">On the wrong platform you may go, go forward more and more, but it will be dismantled because it is wrong.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Robert Gouiran, Nuclear Physicist from European Center for Nuclear Research -- June 5, 1974, Geneva|Room Conversation with Robert Gouiran, Nuclear Physicist from European Center for Nuclear Research -- June 5, 1974, Geneva]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. They are misleading. They have no knowledge, and they are misleading. The basic principle of knowledge... They have no idea of spiritual basic principle. They take material basic principle. Therefore the beginning of their knowledge is wrong.</p>
<p>Guru-gaurāṅga: (French)</p>
<p>Robert Gouiran: Yes, yes, yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So on the wrong platform you may go, go forward more and more, but it will be dismantled because it is wrong.</p>
<p>Yogeśvara: What is the... Is there a... What is the nuclear physicist's idea about the origins of creation?</p>
<p>Robert Gouiran: Well, nuclear physics...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: They do not...</p>
<p>Robert Gouiran: Nuclear physics has nothing to do with the study of creation.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, they have nothing.</p>
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkJuly251975LosAngeles_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="154" link="Morning Walk -- July 25, 1975, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- July 25, 1975, Los Angeles">
<div class="heading">Your education from wrong platform, then whole thing is wrong.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- July 25, 1975, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- July 25, 1975, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No, that is... We, accepting evolution. But their evolution is that there is no soul who is the proprietor of the body. That they do not know.</p>
<p>Yadubara: So there is no meaning to their theory then.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Because in beginning is mistaken. (break) ...your education from wrong platform, then whole thing is wrong. (break)...study means that "I am this dress," then do you study me properly? So that is their intelligence. They are studying, Darwin studying, this body and no knowledge of the proprietor of the body.</p>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationApril221976Melbourne_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="82" link="Room Conversation -- April 22, 1976, Melbourne" link_text="Room Conversation -- April 22, 1976, Melbourne">
<div class="heading">If you are on the wrong platform, whatever decision you make, that is foolishness.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- April 22, 1976, Melbourne|Room Conversation -- April 22, 1976, Melbourne]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No, in ignorance, whatever decision you make, that is foolishness.</p>
<p>Brian Singer: Any?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Any decision. If you are on the wrong platform, whatever decision you make, that is foolishness. And therefore we are being baffled. Every time we are making decision, and next time it is found useless, another decision, because on the wrong platform, the basic principle being wrong, whatever decision you make, this is all foolishness. What is the value of the children's decision? Is there any value? Because he's not in proper understanding, what is the meaning of his decision? So one child makes one decision. Another child makes another decision. There is fight. The dog also do that.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationJuly61976WashingtonDC_1" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="189" link="Room Conversation -- July 6, 1976, Washington, D.C." link_text="Room Conversation -- July 6, 1976, Washington, D.C.">
<div class="heading">If you are on the wrong platform, then what is the value of your speculation?
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- July 6, 1976, Washington, D.C.|Room Conversation -- July 6, 1976, Washington, D.C.]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Devotee (1): You were saying that everything they say is wrong, and that is our position. We take that position, that everything they say is wrong.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, because they are imperfect, they are speculating.</p>
<p>Devotee (1): Yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What is the value of your speculation? If you are on the wrong platform, then what is the value of your speculation? You have got imperfect senses, you cheat, with the microscope or binocular, but it is manufactured by you. How it is perfect?</p>
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: That is one of our reasonings, that the senses...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. You are born imperfect, and you are manufacturing some measuring... So that is also imperfect. And you are depending by seeing through the binocular. How it is perfect?</p>
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Latest revision as of 15:48, 21 May 2018

Other Books by Srila Prabhupada

Sri Isopanisad

The living beings who are encaged in the material tabernacle are constantly seeking enjoyment, but they are seeking it on the wrong platform.
Sri Isopanisad 7, Purport:

The spiritual entities are meant for enjoyment, as stated in the Vedānta-sūtra (1.1.12): ānanda-mayo 'bhyāsāt. By nature and constitution, every living being—including the Supreme Lord and each of His parts and parcels—is meant for eternal enjoyment. The living beings who are encaged in the material tabernacle are constantly seeking enjoyment, but they are seeking it on the wrong platform. Apart from the material platform is the spiritual platform, where the Supreme Being enjoys Himself with His innumerable associates. On that platform there is no trace of material qualities, and therefore that platform is called nirguṇa. On the nirguṇa platform there is never a clash over the object of enjoyment. Here in the material world there is always a clash between different individual beings because here the proper center of enjoyment is missed. The real center of enjoyment is the Supreme Lord, who is the center of the sublime and spiritual rāsa dance. We are all meant to join Him and enjoy life with one transcendental interest and without any clash. That is the highest platform of spiritual interest, and as soon as one realizes this perfect form of oneness, there can be no question of illusion (moha) or lamentation (śoka).

Lectures

Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures

The basic principle is cheating. Wrong. And on the wrong platform they are building phantasmagoria, big, big ideas.
Lecture on SB 1.15.31 -- Los Angeles, December 9, 1973:

This is our charge against this so-called advancement of life. And they are forgetting real thing. They do not understand what is soul. They do not understand. They do not understand that the soul is transmigrating from one body to another. Soul is immortal. Soul is eternal. These things are described in the Bhagavad-gītā. In the beginning, this is the beginning lesson: dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāram (BG 2.13). This is the beginning of spiritual understanding. But they do not understand this beginning lesson, and still they are advanced. This is going on. Simply cheating. So this cheating process is going on under the misconception that "I am this body." The basic principle is cheating. Wrong. And on the wrong platform they are building phantasmagoria, big, big ideas.

Conversations and Morning Walks

1974 Conversations and Morning Walks

On the wrong platform you may go, go forward more and more, but it will be dismantled because it is wrong.
Room Conversation with Robert Gouiran, Nuclear Physicist from European Center for Nuclear Research -- June 5, 1974, Geneva:

Prabhupāda: Yes. They are misleading. They have no knowledge, and they are misleading. The basic principle of knowledge... They have no idea of spiritual basic principle. They take material basic principle. Therefore the beginning of their knowledge is wrong.

Guru-gaurāṅga: (French)

Robert Gouiran: Yes, yes, yes.

Prabhupāda: So on the wrong platform you may go, go forward more and more, but it will be dismantled because it is wrong.

Yogeśvara: What is the... Is there a... What is the nuclear physicist's idea about the origins of creation?

Robert Gouiran: Well, nuclear physics...

Prabhupāda: They do not...

Robert Gouiran: Nuclear physics has nothing to do with the study of creation.

Prabhupāda: Yes, they have nothing.

1975 Conversations and Morning Walks

Your education from wrong platform, then whole thing is wrong.
Morning Walk -- July 25, 1975, Los Angeles:

Prabhupāda: No, that is... We, accepting evolution. But their evolution is that there is no soul who is the proprietor of the body. That they do not know.

Yadubara: So there is no meaning to their theory then.

Prabhupāda: Because in beginning is mistaken. (break) ...your education from wrong platform, then whole thing is wrong. (break)...study means that "I am this dress," then do you study me properly? So that is their intelligence. They are studying, Darwin studying, this body and no knowledge of the proprietor of the body.

1976 Conversations and Morning Walks

If you are on the wrong platform, whatever decision you make, that is foolishness.
Room Conversation -- April 22, 1976, Melbourne:

Prabhupāda: No, in ignorance, whatever decision you make, that is foolishness.

Brian Singer: Any?

Prabhupāda: Any decision. If you are on the wrong platform, whatever decision you make, that is foolishness. And therefore we are being baffled. Every time we are making decision, and next time it is found useless, another decision, because on the wrong platform, the basic principle being wrong, whatever decision you make, this is all foolishness. What is the value of the children's decision? Is there any value? Because he's not in proper understanding, what is the meaning of his decision? So one child makes one decision. Another child makes another decision. There is fight. The dog also do that.

If you are on the wrong platform, then what is the value of your speculation?
Room Conversation -- July 6, 1976, Washington, D.C.:

Devotee (1): You were saying that everything they say is wrong, and that is our position. We take that position, that everything they say is wrong.

Prabhupāda: Yes, because they are imperfect, they are speculating.

Devotee (1): Yes.

Prabhupāda: What is the value of your speculation? If you are on the wrong platform, then what is the value of your speculation? You have got imperfect senses, you cheat, with the microscope or binocular, but it is manufactured by you. How it is perfect?

Svarūpa Dāmodara: That is one of our reasonings, that the senses...

Prabhupāda: Yes. You are born imperfect, and you are manufacturing some measuring... So that is also imperfect. And you are depending by seeing through the binocular. How it is perfect?

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