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     13:55  Suppose you are destined to suffer. So apratihata means that in spite of your so-called destiny to suffer, if you take to Krsna consciousness your suffering will be reduced, or there will be no suffering‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     13:54  If destiny cannot be changed, then why was Prahlada Maharaja urging this (taking up KC)? Generally, "destiny" means your material future. That you cannot change. But even that can be changed when you are in spiritual life‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     13:51  In spite of your destiny, if you try for Krsna consciousness, you can achieve spiritual success. Otherwise, why did Prahlada Maharaja urge his friends, kaumara acaret: Take Krsna consciousness up from your very childhood‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     13:50  Make sure that everything is clear. Why are you so eager to progress? Try to understand what is what. The first thing is that your destiny cannot be changed. That's a fact‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     13:49  Our only business should be to surrender to Krsna. And if you artificially want to be more happy by economic development, that is not possible‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     13:49  The Brahma-samhita (5.54) says, karmani nirdahati kintu ca bhakti-bhajam: destiny can be changed by Krsna for His devotees; otherwise it is not possible‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     13:47  The same judge who gave the verdict cannot check it. But if the man begs for the mercy of the king, the king can check the execution. He can go totally above the law‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     13:46  As for the question of "fatalistic," I have often given this example: Let us say a man is condemned by a court of law to be hanged. Nobody can check it‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     13:45  No one can check your spiritual advancement. Try to understand this‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     13:44  As your advancement of so-called material happiness is already destined and cannot be checked, similarly, your advancement in spiritual life cannot be checked - if you endeavor for it‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     13:44  That spiritual purpose you should engage your energy. That advantage is open to you now, in the human form. Ahaituky apratihata: pure devotional service to the Lord, Krsna consciousness, is open to you now, and it cannot be checked‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     13:43  You can train the child spiritually. That is possible. Therefore it is said, tasyaiva hetoh prayeteta kovido: use this priceless human form to attain what you could not attain in so many millions of lower forms‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     13:42  In his next life he (person in hut) is going to be a dog, although he does not know it. That's all‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     13:41  He (a person) may live in a hut and become very advanced in self-realzation. But if he wastes his time turning his hut into a skyscraper, then his whole life is wasted, finished‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:30  Sometimes people boast, "We have gone from the hut to the skyscraper." They think this is progress. But in the Vedic system of civilization, one thinks about how much he is advanced in self-realization‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:29  People who accuse followers of Vedic civilization of laziness or of "inhibiting progress" do not know what real progress is. The Vedic civilization is not interested in the false progress of economic development‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:23  They (followers of Vedic Civilization) are so busy that they want to begin the busy-ness from their very childhood. Therefore it is wrong to think they are lazy‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:17  They (followers of Vedic Civilization) are very, very busy. Not only very, very busy, but also kaumara acaret prajno dharman bhagavatan iha: (SB 7.6.1) they are trying to become self-realized from the very beginning of life‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:17  There are two different platforms, the material and the spiritual. Followers of the Vedic civilization, which is practiced in India - although nowadays it is distorted - actually, these people are not lazy‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:16  During the daytime the dogs and asses think, - We are working, but these spiritualists, they are not working‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
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     12:13  What is night for ordinary beings is the time of wakefulness for the self-controlled." The self-controlled man wakes up very early - practically in the middle of the night - and works for spiritual realization while others are sleeping‎ diffhist +2‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:02  At the Kumbha-mela, millions of people come to take bath in the Ganges because they are interested in how to become spiritually liberated from this material world. They're not lazy‎ diffhist +2‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:01  The followers of varnasrama-dharma - they never tried for economic development. You'll find in India, still, millions of people taking bath in the Ganges during Kumbha-mela. Have you have been to the Kumbha-mela festival‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:00  The Vedic system of civilization is meant for realizing God: visnur aradhyate. In the Vedic system, people try for that‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     12:00  We are satisfied with whatever material happiness and distress we are destined. But we are very eager to utilize our energy for progressing in Krsna consciousness. This is the point‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:59  In our International Society for Krishna Consciousness, our main business is how to make advancement in Krsna consciousness. We are not enthusiastic about opening big, big factories with big, big money-earning machines. No‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:59  Whatever energy you have, utilize it for understanding Krsna consciousness. That is real progress. Make your spiritual understanding - your understanding of God and self - perfectly clear‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:57  First you must understand what actual progress is. The thing is that if you try to progress vainly, what is the use of trying? If it is a fact you cannot change your material destiny, why should you try for that‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:55  Don't waste your time with these things (checking happines and distress condition of life). better you utilize your energy for advancing in Krsna consciousness‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:54  Just as you cannot check your distressing condition of life, similarly you cannot check your happy condition of life. It will come automatically‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:46  Nobody is enjoying uninterrupted material happiness. That is not possible. A certain amount of material happiness and a certain amount of material distress - these both must be present always‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:37  The whole Vedic civilization is based on the understanding that destiny allows only a certain amount of material happiness in this world, and that our efforts should therefore be directed toward self-realization‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:36  The Vedic system is not fatalistic. It is fatalistic only in the sense that one's material destiny cannot be changed. But your spiritual life is in your hands‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:16  Why shall I waste my time trying to avoid distress and gain so-called happiness? Let me utilize my energy for Krsna consciousness. - That is intelligence. You cannot check your destiny. The magazine's question touches on this point‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:15  Who can protect you from all these distressing conditions? - "So," you should conclude, "if these distressing conditions come upon me by force, the other kind of condition, the opposite number, will also come‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:15  Who wants distress? E.g. in our country, Mahatma Gandhi was killed by his own countrymen. He was a great man, he was protected by so many followers, he was beloved by all - and still he was killed. Destiny‎ diffhist 0‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:12  How can I believe it - that by working harder I will not get more material happiness than I would otherwise have had? - Because you are undergoing so many distressing conditions even though you do not want them‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:12  Prahlada Maharaja says, na tat-prayasah kartavyam: you should not waste your energy for material happiness, because you cannot get more than what you are destined to have. That is not possible‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:11  Even though you do not want distress, still distress comes upon you. Similarly, even if you do not work hard for the happiness that is destined to be yours, still it will come‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     11:00  How shall I get them (material happiness)?" How? Kalena sarvatra gabhira-ramhasa: By the arrangement of eternal time, everything will come about in due course‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:59  Take to Krsna consciousness. You'll get these other things (material happiness) besides‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:48  Someone may ask, "Then shall we do nothing?" Yes do nothing simply to improve your material position. Whatever material happiness is allotted for you by destiny, you'll get it wherever you are‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:47  Vedic civilization is different. As Narada Muni says the learned, astute person will use this life to gain what he has missed in countless prior lives - namely, realization of self and realization of God‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:46  They (members of the modern civilization) think the four-wheel race is advancement of civilization‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:45  The members of the modern so-called civilization do not know of varnasrama. Therefore they have created a society that is simply a dog's race. The dog is running on four legs, and thay are running on four wheels. That's all‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:42  The ultimate goal is visnur aradhyate - the worship of the Supreme Lord, Visnu , by all. That is the idea‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:41  The spiritual divisions are the brahmacaris - students, grhasthas - householders, vanaprasthas - retirees, and sannyasis - renunciants‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:40  The varnasrama system has four social and four spiritual divisions. the social divisions are the brahmanas - teachers and priests, ksatriyas - administrators and military men, vaisyas - farmers and merchants, and sudras - laborers and craftsmen‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
     10:39  Everyone should offer up the fruits of his occupational duty to the lotus feet of the Lord Visnu , or Krsna." That is why the Vedic system is called varnasrama - literally, "social organization with a spiritual perspective‎ diffhist +1‎ Nabakumar talk contribs
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