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<div class="heading">There is another place, material..., spiritual world. That is also called sanātana. And the jīva, the living entity, is also mentioned as sanātana. And Kṛṣṇa is also mentioned as sanātana. When these three sanātanas come together, that is called sanātana life, and any process that takes us to that sanātana position, that is called sanātana-dharma.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture -- Jakarta, February 26, 1973|Lecture -- Jakarta, February 26, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">
So where is your national? Your national home is back to home, back to Godhead. That is your national, real, actual home. That is called ''sanātana''. That I was explaining. There is another place, material . . . spiritual world. That is also called ''sanātana''. And the ''jīva'', the living entity, is also mentioned as ''sanātana''. And Kṛṣṇa is also mentioned as ''sanātana''. When these three ''sanātanas'' come together, that is called ''sanātana'' life, and any process that takes us to that ''sanātana'' position, that is called ''sanātana-dharma''. That is called ''sanātana-dharma''.

We know ''sanātana-dharma.'' We have heard it only. But ''sanātana-dharma'' is not limited to a certain class of men or certain class of society or certain kind of country. No. ''Sanātana-dharma'' is meant for all living entities, because living entity is ''sanātana'', and God is ''sanātana'', and the place where we can exist eternally, that place is called ''sanātana''. And the process which teaches us to go back to ''sanātana'' land, ''sanātana'' existence, that is called ''sanātana-dharma.'' Try to understand. Most of our Hindus, they call the ''sanātana-dharmī'', but ''sanātana-dharma'' is not limited for any particular type of society. It is meant for the whole human being, living entity. Living entity, ''sanātana''. So when you accept this, when you understand what is ''sanātana'', and we employ ourself in that process, that is called execution of ''sanātana-dharma''.

So we are spreading this ''sanātana-dharma'', or Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, throughout the whole world—not on the superficial platform of this bodily concept of life. We are teaching everyone that "You are not this body." Actually we are not, but it is because we are, at the present moment, we are educated as first-class rascals and fools, we are thinking that, "I am this body." This is the defect of the modern civilization. But actually what Kṛṣṇa is trying to instruct Arjuna . . . Arjuna means everyone. He's not simply talking with Arjuna. Arjuna is simply via media. (break) (duplicate) He's talking to the whole human society, intelligent class of men, that "We existed, we are existing now, and we shall exist also in the future." This is called ''sanātana'', eternity.

So ''na caiva na bhaviṣyāmaḥ'' ([[vanisource:BG 2.12 (1972)|BG 2.12]]): "In the future we also shall exist." Now we should consider what is the problem now: I was present in the past, I am now present in the present, and I shall exist in the future. Then what is my problem? The problem is why I am changing this position of eternity. I am ''sanātana''. I am eternal. ''Ahaṁ brahmāsmi''. That is the real existence, that I am Brahman. Brahman means eternal. But Kṛṣṇa is Para-brahman. ''Param'' means the supreme, the chief. Therefore there are two terms in the Vedic language: ''ātmā, paramātmā; brahman, parabrahman''; ''īśvara, parameśvara''. There are two terms. We are not ''parameśvara'', not ''paramātmā'', not ''parabrahman''. We are ''ātmā, īśvara'' . . . we can say: "I am ''īśvara''." What does it mean, ''īśvara''? ''Īśvara'' means controller. So, although we are servant, at the same time we are controller.

That we can experience. I am now working in office. I am servant of the establishment, but I'm given some power to control over certain departments. So simultaneously, I am servant and controller. As controller, I can be called ''īśvara, īśvara'', god, as controller. But I am not controller Supreme Controller. That I cannot say. Nobody can say that, "I am the Supreme Controller." That you cannot say. You can control, say, a dozen of men. Another can control a hundred men. Another can control a thousand, or millions. But nobody can say that, "I am the controller of the whole universe." That is not possible. That controller is Kṛṣṇa.

Therefore in the ''śāstra'' it is said, ''īśvaraḥ paramaḥ kṛṣṇaḥ'' (Bs. 5.1): "The Supreme Controller is Kṛṣṇa."