View source for Their (Transcendental Meditation) philosophy is that "If you continue meditating, one day automatically you'll give up these things. So why do it prematurely?"

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[[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]]
[[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1977]]
[[Category:Questions On... Other Religions, Religion in General]]
[[Category:Questions On... Meditation]]
[[Category:Questions On... Surrender, Obedience, Renunciation]]
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div class="heading">No, but if one day you have to give it up, why not prematurely?
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 21, 1977, Bhuvanesvara|Room Conversation -- January 21, 1977, Bhuvanesvara]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Gargamuni: They said our Māyāpur project is more advanced.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: This is the only movement now. All these other attempts have completely failed, at least in America. All the Indian teachers that have come to America are being exposed.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But they say Transcendental Meditation is going...</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: Six million.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: Oh, that's big because you don't have to give up anything. I met some of my old friends in New York, and I debated with them. And their philosophy is that this Transcendental Meditation is based on natural process of God consciousness, and our effort is all artificial. We are giving up meat, giving up sex—this is artificial. Their philosophy is that "If you continue meditating, one day automatically you'll give up these things. So why do it prematurely?"</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, but if one day you have to give it up, why not prematurely?</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: Give it up when you are... By the Transcendental Meditation, twenty minutes a day, automatically you are purifying yourself naturally. Therefore that is more perfect.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, if I can purify immediately, what is the wrong?</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: He said it creates stress. By doing it artificially you create too much stress.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: "No, we don't feel any... We do not feel any stress. You feel because you are unable to do it. But we don't feel it. We have given up... Since our spiritual master has said, we have given up, immediately. But you cannot do it," say.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: That's it. And they're envious, so therefore he's trying to find fault. He says, "You are creating so much stress that you are actually blocking your mind from the higher realms of meditation."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, that is... "You are saying. Our mind is not blocked. We are making progress. You are saying that because you cannot do it. That is your deficiency. We can do it immediately."</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: They can only do it twenty minutes a day.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: If that is the goal, that you have to give up, so we give up immediately, without any difficulty.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: But they're making propaganda against this Transcendental Meditation also. The biggest Christian preacher in America—his name is Billy Graham—he is a good friend of former president Nixon and very wealthy. And he has stated publicly that this Transcendental Meditation... (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: ...sees practically.</p>
<p>Gargamuni: These people, though, who follow these processes, they don't dedicate their lives. They follow it for two years, then they get married and they forget the whole thing. While they're students...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: It is a hobby.</p>
<p>Gargamuni: Yes. In college. In college they do it, and when they're out of college they get married and go to work. They forget it.</p>
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