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<div class="heading">Tāḍane bahavo guṇāḥ, tasmāt: therefore, putraṁ ca śiṣyaṁ ca tāḍayen na tu lālayet, "simply chastise. Don't pat." This is the injunction, moral injunction. So, so far we are concerned, when our spiritual master used to chastise, we took it as blessing. That was very nice. And he would chastise like anything. "Damn rascal, foolish, stupid," anything, all good words.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 2.9.4 -- Japan, April 22, 1972|Lecture on SB 2.9.4 -- Japan, April 22, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">
Out of His causeless mercy He is coming to reveal Himself, Kṛṣṇa: "It is like this. I am like this. You are like this." Both things.

First, beginning, Kṛṣṇa said: "You are not this body." ''Aśocyān anvaśocas tvaṁ prajñā-vādāṁś ca'' . . . ([[Vanisource:BG 2.11 (1972)|BG 2.11]]). "Arjuna, you are talking like a very learned man, but you do not know what you are—not this body. You are not this body. Why you are lamenting for this body, your body and your brother's body, your grandfather's body, your children's body? But you are not body."

Therefore, in the first chastisement, Kṛṣṇa was accepted as spiritual master. A spiritual master has the right to chastise. Father, spiritual master, they are advised to chastise. ''Putraṁ ca śiṣyaṁ ca tāḍayen na tu lālayet''. So father and teacher is advised by Cāṇakya Paṇḍita that "You should always chastise your son and disciple. Chastise." ''Tāḍayet. Tāḍayet ''means "Simply chastise. Always find out mistake." Don't be angry, but it is the business of the teacher and the father simply to find out your mistake, not to find out your good things. ''Tāḍayen na tu lālayet. Lālayet'' means patting: "Oh, my dear son, my dear boy, you are so nice. You have done . . . " Sometimes it is done, but it is the business of the teacher and the father to chastise. Never recognize the disciple's business or son's business as very good. Then they will spoil. That is the injunction of Cāṇakya Muni.

''Lālane bahavo doṣāḥ'': "If you simply pat, then there will be so many faults." ''Lālane bahavo doṣāḥ. Doṣāḥ'' means faults. ''Tāḍane bahavo guṇāḥ'': "And if you chastise, oh, they will be very much qualified." ''Tāḍane bahavo guṇāḥ, tasmāt'': therefore, ''putraṁ ca śiṣyaṁ ca tāḍayen na tu lālayet'', "Simply chastise. Don't pat." This is the injunction, moral injunction. So, so far we are concerned, when our spiritual master used to chastise, we took it as blessing. That was very nice. And he would chastise like anything. "Damn rascal," "foolish," "stupid," anything, all good words. (laughter)

One day it so happened . . . that was not my fault. My another old Godbrother was . . . Prabhupāda was speaking. So I was very much fond of hearing. That gentleman, he was a retired doctor. So he wanted to speak something. He should not have done so, but . . . just like . . . so naturally I also . . . and Prabhupāda saw it, and he became so angry. So he knew that my attention was drawn by him. He chastised him like anything. He was old man, actually almost like his age. So he was paying sixty rupees in those days per month. So he became so angry, that "Do you think that because you pay sixty rupees, you have purchased us? You can do anything and anything?" He said like that. Very strong word he used. "Do you think that I am speaking for others? You have learned everything? You are diverting your attention." So many ways, he was very, very angry. You see?

So this is nice, to chastise. Therefore, as soon as Kṛṣṇa was accepted as ''guru'' . . . ''Śiṣyas te 'haṁ śādhi māṁ prapannam'' ([[Vanisource:BG 2.7 (1972)|BG 2.7]]): "I become Your disciple." Because in the beginning there was friendly talks . . . so friendly talks cannot make any good advance. Talks must be between the spiritual master or teacher and the disciple. So immediately, first of all, He chastised. ''Aśocyān anvaśocas tvaṁ prajñā-vādāṁś ca bhāṣase'' ([[Vanisource:BG 2.11 (1972)|BG 2.11]]): "Arjuna, you are talking like a learned man, but you are a fool number one."

''Gatāsūn agatāsūṁś ca nānuśocanti paṇḍitāḥ''. That means, "If you had been actually ''paṇḍita'', learned man, then you would not have lamented for this body." ''Gatāsūn''. "The body is neither a subject matter for lamentation, either living condition or dead condition. It has no value." This is the instruction, Kṛṣṇa's word. But the modern civilization, they are giving all value to this body, all their philanthropic work, hospitalization and this, so many things.</p>
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