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<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithIndonesianScholarFebruary271973Jakarta_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="4" link="Room Conversation with Indonesian Scholar -- February 27, 1973, Jakarta" link_text="Room Conversation with Indonesian Scholar -- February 27, 1973, Jakarta">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Indonesian Scholar -- February 27, 1973, Jakarta|Room Conversation with Indonesian Scholar -- February 27, 1973, Jakarta]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Scholar: I think it's also according to the society. First we have to learn and after we come to the stage of sannyāsī, only then we are...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: It is no question of sannyāsa, sannyāsa you take or not take, you must be in knowledge what is your next life.</p>
<p>Scholar: But if the...?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Do you mean to say we shall keep ourself in darkness about our next life? Is that your philosophy?</p>
<p>Scholar: Well I think we have to start from... We give a child educations and then gṛhastha, and vānaprastha,...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is all right, gṛhastha, vānaprastha, that is a, different stages. But the real education is that you have to die. You have to accept another body. What kind of body you are going to accept? If you do not know that what is this meaning of gṛhastha, and vānaprastha, and sannyāsa? It is all rascal. If you do not... You miss this real point, then what is the meaning of this? There's no meaning. Simply by dressing in white cloth one becomes gṛhastha? And simply by dressing one, in this saffron cloth, he becomes sannyāsī? By changing dress he becomes everything? He must know, that what is the aim of life. Everyone should know what is the ultimate of life.</p>
<p>Scholar: Yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: If he does not know, if he is in darkness for the next life, then what is the meaning of this gṛhastha and vānaprastha and this...?</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithIndonesianScholarFebruary271973Jakarta_1" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="4" link="Room Conversation with Indonesian Scholar -- February 27, 1973, Jakarta" link_text="Room Conversation with Indonesian Scholar -- February 27, 1973, Jakarta">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Indonesian Scholar -- February 27, 1973, Jakarta|Room Conversation with Indonesian Scholar -- February 27, 1973, Jakarta]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No, actually... Hindu, the word is not to be found in our Vedic scripture. It is the name given by the Mohammedans. So that is going on. Actually it is called varṇāśrama-dharma, four varṇas, four āśrama. The four varṇas, the brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra. And four āśramas-brahmacārī, gṛhastha, vānaprastha, sannyāsa. Combined together it is called varṇāśrama. So unless the human being follows this varṇāśrama principle he's not a human being. He's animal, because animal has no varṇa, no āśrama. The human society must be divided. Then, just like in this body there are four divisions—the head division, the arms division, the belly division, and the leg division—all these are required for complete body. Although, by comparative study, head is the most important department, but still the leg is not... that we don't require leg. Leg is also required. Similarly, the brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra, they're required to function the society perfectly. That is varṇa. And similarly, for spiritual emancipation there must be the division: brahmacārī, gṛhastha, vānaprastha, sannyāsa. So unless you accept this institution perfectly you cannot develop your consciousness as perfect human being.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationswithSannyasisMarch151974Vrndavana_2" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="9" link="Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana|Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: Have money to expand. Everything is going nice. It is organized.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Management means everything is in order, otherwise what is the illusion of (indistinct).</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: If there's no manager, then a sannyāsī should step forward.</p>
<p>Pañcadraviḍa: Sometimes though it's hard to maintain this routine. You yourself told the devotees not to go out and purchase excessive amounts of sweets but that didn't check them. They're still in the sweet shops continually. This morning I woke a,...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Huh?</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationswithSannyasisMarch151974Vrndavana_3" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="9" link="Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana|Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: The whole thing is that we're sort of at a crisis in India, in terms of our presence here. Our prestige has hit an all-time low simply because of our conduct, that's all. Not because of our teaching, or because we are white, or anything like that. It's just because of our conduct. It's been so bad. Abominable. We don't in any way compare with the Indian sannyāsīs in our conduct. So how can we expect to honor Śrīla Prabhupāda if we conduct ourselves like that? So it's part of our responsibilities as the leaders not to avoid it, not to avoid the other devotees, but to train them now, begin training them.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, this is the Vaiṣṇava training. Now we should have our routine work. Just like here, punctually, as soon as I see seven, I ask, "When is he coming?" (indistinct). As soon as (indistinct), immediately I ask. So there may be more (indistinct), but the routine work must be followed. If somebody is slipping, the kīrtana is going on (indistinct) morning, (indistinct) is going on. So he maybe said that if you sleep like that then you cannot do it.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationswithSannyasisMarch151974Vrndavana_4" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="9" link="Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana|Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: The whole point is that the sannyāsīs must see that that standard is kept to the highest. That's their job. That's why you've taken...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But that should be observed and peacefully it should be settled. If it is not peacefully settled, the man who will continually disobey, he should be respectfully asked, "Please go home." You cannot... That...</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationswithSannyasisMarch151974Vrndavana_5" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="9" link="Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana|Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Acyutānanda: No, no it doesn't. They do not respect sannyāsīs. (devotees all talk at once)</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Because you may not deserve it then.</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: Now I'm getting so... The thing is they may say like that but behind my back people are talking, saying this...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Now if they do not offer, obey the orders of the sannyāsī, then naturally... But that thing should be brought to the notice of higher or some official, president. Then steps should be taken, that if you cannot follow the rules and regulations, then you must leave. It is plain thing. There is no question of fighting. First thing is that a sannyāsī, leader, they should behave themselves according to the rules and regulations. And then ask others to follow.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationswithSannyasisMarch151974Vrndavana_6" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="9" link="Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana|Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: Just like yesterday, Dvija Hari came over and he said he couldn't get anyone to clean the temple. No one would clean over at Keśi-ghāṭa. So I said, "Well there are so many sannyāsīs there. Ask them to organize a cleansing party." He said, "Oh, no one will clean." They don't want to do it. So...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Why not some, some people clean like this, you have to get cleaning (indistinct).</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationswithSannyasisMarch151974Vrndavana_7" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="9" link="Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana|Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: Yeah, I know the difficulty they're having, sannyāsīs have here, because many of these devotees think it's more like a tour, vacation, to come to India. They don't have to follow the rules and regulations...</p>
<p>Devotee: Right.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: ...they're only here temporarily. They're just passing through. So it's very difficult, I know, but still we have to try to train somehow...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Therefore we cannot establish very big establishment. Because they come like a tourist.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationswithSannyasisMarch151974Vrndavana_8" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="9" link="Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana|Room Conversations with Sannyasis -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Weak, weak I am. Physically I am weak and besides that, if I have to see to the administration then I cannot think of writing books and how to present our philosophy to be understandable by the people. Therefore the administration is divided. Now you do, little intelligently. We have got still respect. Keep our standard. The people will like us. People wants to give us help, just like this big sannyāsī, one of the biggest sannyāsīs, Gangesvarananda(?), he is attracted. He is a man of immense resource, men and money he has. Immense resource.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationMarch171973Mayapur_9" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="10" link="Room Conversation -- March 17, 1973, Mayapur" link_text="Room Conversation -- March 17, 1973, Mayapur">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- March 17, 1973, Mayapur|Room Conversation -- March 17, 1973, Mayapur]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Jaya oṁ viṣṇupāda paramahaṁsa parivrājakācārya....So we are thinking we are very much fortunate to hear His Divine Grace Oṁ Viṣṇupāda Paramahaṁsa Parivrājakācārya Bhakti Raksaka Śrīdhara Mahārāja. He is, by age and experience, in both ways he is senior to me. I am also always fortunate to have his association for a very long timeperhaps since nineteen hundred and thirty or something like that. At that time, he did not accept sannyāsa; he just left home, vanaprastha. In his white dress he went to Allahabad. (Aside, to Śrīdhara Mahārāja:) Mahārāja, I think you remember this incident when you went to Allahabad.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationMarch171973Mayapur_10" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="10" link="Room Conversation -- March 17, 1973, Mayapur" link_text="Room Conversation -- March 17, 1973, Mayapur">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- March 17, 1973, Mayapur|Room Conversation -- March 17, 1973, Mayapur]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. He was my intimate friend. So in their house, old Tīrtha Mahārāja went to beg some alms—they are very rich man. So, he informed me that "One nice sannyāsī came to our house," and he was invited, "in Ultadanga there is Gauḍīya Maṭha, so he has invited me. I wish to go there. Why don't you come? Let us go together." He was my very intimate friend. So at that time I was a little pessimistic (?), "I know all these sādhus there, I am not going." So he forced me, "Oh, why not come? Let us go." "All right, let us go." So I went to see His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura in 1922 in that Ultadanga building, and that time Prabhupāda was sitting on the roof. There was small house (indistinct) room, and we were welcome, because they thought Naren Mullik was very rich man and he has contributed some money. So, we went to see Prabhupāda, offered our obeisances.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMay141973LosAngeles_11" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="28" link="Morning Walk -- May 14, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 14, 1973, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 14, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- May 14, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Paramahaṁsa: And one can worship Him within the stone or within everything.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. We worship everything. We worship everything, see Kṛṣṇa everywhere. We don't see the tree. We see Kṛṣṇa's energy. Therefore the tree's also worshipable because Kṛṣṇa and Kṛṣṇa's energy both are worshipable. Therefore we say Hare Kṛṣṇa. Hare means Kṛṣṇa's energy. We worship everything. In our childhood we are taught by our parents, if there is small grain and if it is strut (?) on the feet, we shall pick it up and touch on the forehead. We are taught like this, how to see everything in relationship with Kṛṣṇa. That is Kṛṣṇa conscious. We cannot therefore see anything wasted, anything misused. Why you are preaching? Why we are after so many rascals? That his life is being misused. Let us give him some enlightenment. This is our mission. Or let him go to hell. Just like Māyāvādī sannyāsīs, they're engaged in meditation or in the Himalayas, but we have come to Los Angeles.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkAtCheviotHillsGolfCourseMay171973LosAngeles_12" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="30" link="Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course -- May 17, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course -- May 17, 1973, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course -- May 17, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course -- May 17, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That is warned by Śaṅkarācārya. Vivekananda lamented at the end of his life, that "I have simply wasted my life." He admitted, "I have not given anything." Bālakānām. He was after this body, and he was recorded, government record, as political sannyāsī. Yes. He had political purpose, but was acting as a sannyāsī. Just like Gandhi, "Saintly statesman." He is recorded, "Saintly statesman." He's a statesman, politician, but he was introducing some morality, non-violence, like that. Actually, his philosophy failed. He wanted Hindu-Muslim unity, but it was divided. The Muslim and Hindu divided. He wanted non-violence. He died out of violence.</p>
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<div id="ConversationwithSridharaMaharajaJune271973Navadvipa_13" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="32" link="Conversation with Sridhara Maharaja -- June 27, 1973, Navadvipa" link_text="Conversation with Sridhara Maharaja -- June 27, 1973, Navadvipa">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Sridhara Maharaja -- June 27, 1973, Navadvipa|Conversation with Sridhara Maharaja -- June 27, 1973, Navadvipa]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Who is the leader?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: I am there, and one, my sannyāsī śiṣya, Bali-mardana.</p>
<p>Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Where is that Bali-mardana?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Bali-mardana. Bali-mardana and another, Karandhara dāsa Adhikārī. So actually he's the manager, Karandhara dāsa Adhikārī. He is looking after.</p>
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<div id="ConversationwithSridharaMaharajaJune271973Navadvipa_14" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="32" link="Conversation with Sridhara Maharaja -- June 27, 1973, Navadvipa" link_text="Conversation with Sridhara Maharaja -- June 27, 1973, Navadvipa">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Sridhara Maharaja -- June 27, 1973, Navadvipa|Conversation with Sridhara Maharaja -- June 27, 1973, Navadvipa]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Versatile.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Versatile, yes. And he's not very old. And he wants to take sannyāsa also. He's a gṛhastha, he has got a child. And: "Just wait. We shall arrange for your... You are already sannyāsī." He lives apart from his wife. So he's very nice boy.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithIndianGuestsJuly111973London_15" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="37" link="Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: ...otherwise, in his preaching, he never stressed. He said,</p>
:kibā vipra kibā nyāsī śūdra kene naya
:yei kṛṣṇa-tattva-vettā sei guru haya
:([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 8.128|CC Madhya 8.128]])
<p>"It doesn't matter whether he's a sannyāsī or gṛhastha or a brāhmaṇa or śūdra; it doesn't matter. If he knows the science of Kṛṣṇa, then he's all right." So this is very reasonable. One requires to know the science. (Hindi) People are interested in whether he knows medical science. That's all. He may be a brāhmaṇa, a śūdra. It doesn't matter. Similarly, Kṛṣṇa consciousness means one should be Kṛṣṇa conscious. He should know the science of Kṛṣṇa. Then he's all right. It doesn't matter what he is. Caitanya Mahāprabhu... Just like Śaṅkarācārya, (Hindi) First of all, you become sannyāsa. Then you talk of spiritual thing. That was his condition. And he would simply offer sannyāsa to the caste brāhmaṇa. Nobody else. Stricture. But Caitanya Mahāprabhu is very liberal, that "Either you become sannyāsī or gṛhastha, it does not matter. You must know the science of Kṛṣṇa. Then you can act as spiritual master. You must know the science of Kṛṣṇa." So he's Dhruvānanda?</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithIndianGuestsJuly111973London_16" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="37" link="Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That doesn't matter, what business. Sva-karmaṇā tam abhyarcya saṁsiddhiṁ labhate naraḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 18.46 (1972)|BG 18.46]]). That is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā. Sva-karmaṇā, by his own business... Just like Arjuna's business was fighting. He was kṣatriya. So sva-karmaṇā, by his fighting business, he served Kṛṣṇa. He fought for Kṛṣṇa. So he became successful. So any business, it doesn't matter. There is another verse in the  Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam: ataḥ pumbhir dvija-śreṣṭhā varṇāśrama-vibhāgaśaḥ. The Sūta Gosvāmī said—all the meeting was being held by learned scholars and brāhmaṇas in Naimiṣāraṇya—so he said, ataḥ pumbhir dvija-śreṣṭhāḥ. You are all very first-class brāhmaṇas. So this is the verdict. Ataḥ pumbhir dvija-śreṣṭhā varṇāśrama-vibhāgaśaḥ. According to the division of varṇa and āśrama. Four varṇas: brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra. And four āśramas: brahmacārī, gṛhastha, vānaprastha and sannyāsa. This is Vedic civilization, varṇāśrama. Varṇāśramācāravatāṁ puruṣeṇa paraḥ pumān... ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 8.58|CC Madhya 8.58]]). When a human being comes to these institutional activities, varṇa and āśrama, at that time he is recognized as human being. Varṇāśramācāravatāṁ puruṣeṇa paraḥ pumān viṣṇur ārādhyate... But that is the beginning of Viṣṇu worship. So Sūta Gosvāmī said, varṇāśrama-vibhāgaśaḥ. You may be a brāhmaṇa. You may be a kṣatriya. You may be a vaiśya. You may be a śūdra. You may be a brahmacārī. You may be a gṛhastha. You may be a vānaprastha or sannyāsa.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithIndianGuestsJuly111973London_17" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="37" link="Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: We have got such a big house. We welcome all. Yes, bad habit is... Habit is second nature sometimes, but one should be determined. Therefore we have got four āśramas: brahmacārī, gṛhastha, vānaprastha, sannyāsa. Whichever is suitable. Just like here. He's gṛhastha. His wife, children, all are devotees. So he doesn't require to become a sannyāsī.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithIndianGuestsJuly111973London_18" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="37" link="Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No, this kind of family life is very suitable. This is wanted. All the wife... His wife is very nice girl. And she is good devotee. So if wife is favorable, then everything is favorable. Household life means cooperation with wife. Na gṛhaṁ gṛham ity āhur gṛhiṇī gṛham ucyate. Just like we are also living within a room, gṛha. But we are sannyāsī. What is the difference between gṛhastha and sannyāsī? He lives with his wife. Gṛhiṇī gṛham ity āhuḥ. Gṛhiṇī means "the wife is gṛha." So if the wife is favorable, devotee, then there is no use of giving up family life. That's all. We have got so many married couples. Just like this boy. He's married. His wife is there. They are favorable. Both husband and wife, they have dedicated life for Kṛṣṇa. So it is very nice. It is not that he has to become sannyāsī. No. Why? There is no necessity. Gṛhe vā vanete thāko. Either you become sannyāsī or gṛhastha, the life must be dedicated for Kṛṣṇa. That's all.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithEducationistsJuly111973London_19" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="40" link="Room Conversation with Educationists -- July 11, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Educationists -- July 11, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Educationists -- July 11, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Educationists -- July 11, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Eh? (laughter) But they get their food and shelter and everything. Even they live with a wife, children. So we,... Kṛṣṇa gives. Not only that we are simply sannyāsī, brahmacārī. There are gṛhasthas, householders, husband, wife, children. They are also living. So that is not our problem. How to eat, how to sleep, that is not our problem. Our only problem is how to satisfy Kṛṣṇa. That is...</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithIndianGuestsandDevoteesJuly111973London_20" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="41" link="Room Conversation with Indian Guests and Devotees -- July 11, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Indian Guests and Devotees -- July 11, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Indian Guests and Devotees -- July 11, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Indian Guests and Devotees -- July 11, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: (Hindi for some time, a few English words) (break) (Hindi for some time) (break) When the destiny of the people are to be controlled, there must be very, very intelligent man. That is Vedic civilization. There is standard aims and objects on which the people should be trained up. That is varṇāśrama-dharma. Viṣṇur ārādhanam. Worshiping Viṣṇu. This is the ultimate aim. So the whole society is divided into brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra, and brahmacārī, gṛhastha, vānaprastha, sannyāsa—departmental—and they are trained up. But the aim is viṣṇur ārādhanam. But they have no idea at the present moment. Viṣṇur ārādhanam, he has no knowledge. But the civilization begins on this point. Human being means he's meant for viṣṇur ārādhanam. Otherwise what is the difference between dogs and human beings? The western people, they do not know. They simply think that dog lies down on the floor, on the road... "We have got nice, best apartment.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithFatherTannerandotherguestsJuly111973London_21" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="42" link="Room Conversation with Father Tanner and other guests -- July 11, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Father Tanner and other guests -- July 11, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Father Tanner and other guests -- July 11, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Father Tanner and other guests -- July 11, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Just like these boys, they are very young, twenties, between twenty to thirty. So they are made here brahmacārī, and some of them are sannyāsī, but they are strictly following these principles. Because they are young men, there cannot be any concession that he can become intoxicants, he can indulge in meat-eating. No.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithTwoBuddhistMonksJuly121973London_22" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="43" link="Room Conversation with Two Buddhist Monks -- July 12, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Two Buddhist Monks -- July 12, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Two Buddhist Monks -- July 12, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Two Buddhist Monks -- July 12, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: They are unable. Simply I have advised them, "With these beads chant Hare Kṛṣṇa sixteen rounds." They are chanting. It is very easy. Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Hare Hare, Hare Rāma Hare Rāma Rāma... Sixteen rounds. It takes about two hours. And they're refraining from four kinds of sinful activities: illicit sex, gambling, intoxication, meat-eating. This much they are following austerities, chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra, taking prasādam. They are happy. Anyone can take. It is not difficult at all. Anyone. They are gṛhasthas. It is not that one has to become a sannyāsī. No. All my, these disciples... Here is a gṛhastha. Here is a sannyāsī. Here is a brahmacārī. So all together, they are serving the same purport. And we are getting good result. You have seen our Ratha-yātrā?</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithReporterfromResearchersMagazineJuly241973London_23" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="51" link="Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Reporter: Akarma, then it comes akarma.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Ah, akarma.</p>
<p>Reporter: Sannyāsa.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, more than akarma.</p>
<p>Reporter: Sannyāsa?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: More than a... Sannyāsī is akarma, yes. Sannyāsī is also not akarma. Sannyāsa means... That is also described in Bhagavad-gītā. Anāśritaḥ karma-phalaṁ kāryaṁ karma karoti yaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 6.1 (1972)|BG 6.1]]). That is also karma. Kāryaṁ karma karoti yaḥ sa sannyāsī. "It is my duty"—on this principle when one works, he is sannyāsī. He does not work for himself, he works for Kṛṣṇa. And that is sannyāsī. Anāśritaḥ karma-phalam. Because if you are doing something, there must be some result. But you do not take the result. Anāśritaḥ karma-phalam. Kāryam: it is my duty. Kāryam. Karma karot... Karma karoti yaḥ. That is karma. Sa sannyāsī. So how you can say in sannyāsa there is no karma? Karma is always there. But you have to see for what for this karma is being done The end justify the means.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithReporterfromResearchersMagazineJuly241973London_24" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="51" link="Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So who is following Śaṅkarācārya? And they say that "We are followers of Śaṅkarācārya." And they are engaged. Śaṅkarācārya follower means he must become first of all sannyāsī, then talk anything else. So who is taking, going to do that?</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithReporterfromResearchersMagazineJuly241973London_25" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="51" link="Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Reporter: Yes. Only way is to sannyāsa.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. It is not sannyāsī business. For starting school the government is there, public is there. Why you... That means brahma satyam you could not understand; you are coming to the school-starting. He could not perceive that brahma satyam. Although he tried to do it, but he could not understand. Therefore now he has to maintain himself, eh? So, people will not give him alms, so he must show that, "I'm starting this school, I'm starting this hospital, I'm doing this, give me some candana." "Give me some subscription," and taking subscription and become fat, that's all.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithReporterfromResearchersMagazineJuly241973London_26" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="51" link="Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Reporter from Researchers Magazine -- July 24, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Reporter: Yes, true.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: I've seen Jawaharlal Nehru, Pantha(?)... They stuck to their position up to the point of death. Neither did they know that there is necessity of vairāgya. But Vedic philosophy says... All the ācāryas, they're all vairāgīs, either Śaṅkarācārya, Madhvācārya, Rāmānujācārya, they're all sannyāsīs. Caitanya Mahāprabhu. All vairāgīs. Even Jesus Christ, he was a vairāgī. Even Lord Buddha, vairāgī. This is required, but where is the vairāgya? They're simply attached to these material activities, and they're talking of high, high things. Their preliminary things is not finished, vairāgya.</p>
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<div id="GardenConversationwithMahadevasMotherandJesuitPriestJuly251973London_27" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="52" link="Garden Conversation with Mahadeva's Mother and Jesuit Priest -- July 25, 1973, London" link_text="Garden Conversation with Mahadeva's Mother and Jesuit Priest -- July 25, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Garden Conversation with Mahadeva's Mother and Jesuit Priest -- July 25, 1973, London|Garden Conversation with Mahadeva's Mother and Jesuit Priest -- July 25, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Mother: A temple. And are these married and...?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, there are married, there are sannyāsīs, there are brahmacārī, all kinds of people. It is not restricted. You see. So many children. They're having children. We are taking care of them. Everything.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithCardinalDanielouAugust91973Paris_28" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="56" link="Room Conversation with Cardinal Danielou -- August 9, 1973, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Cardinal Danielou -- August 9, 1973, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Cardinal Danielou -- August 9, 1973, Paris|Room Conversation with Cardinal Danielou -- August 9, 1973, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Cardinal Danielou: You are in India today a religious life, or...?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, I'm sannyāsī.</p>
<p>Cardinal Danielou: But there is no, no atheism, literate, some atheism, atheism, atheism, religious indifference, materialists exist in the towns, in the towns...?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Now there are many atheists.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithFrenchJournalistandUNESCOWorkerAugust101973Paris_29" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="58" link="Room Conversation with French Journalist and UNESCO Worker -- August 10, 1973, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with French Journalist and UNESCO Worker -- August 10, 1973, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with French Journalist and UNESCO Worker -- August 10, 1973, Paris|Room Conversation with French Journalist and UNESCO Worker -- August 10, 1973, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Śrama eva hi kevalam. That is described in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam as simply wasting time. That's all.</p>
:dharmaḥ svanuṣṭhithaḥ puṁsāṁ
:viṣvaksena-kathāsu yaḥ
:notpādayed ratiṁ yadi
:śrama eva hi kevalam
:([[Vanisource:SB 1.2.8|SB 1.2.8]])
<p>Śrama eva hi kevalam. Everyone is acting. Dharmaḥ svanuṣṭhithaḥ. According to Vedic civilization, there are four divisions of men. brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra, and further, spiritual divisions, brahmacārī, gṛhastha, vānaprastha, sannyāsa. So everyone has got some duty according to his position. So Bhāgavata says that even a person executes his duty very perfectly, but if he does not awaken his Kṛṣṇa consciousness, then all that he has done is simply a waste of time.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithAnnaConanDoyledaughterinlawoffamousauthorSirArthurConanDoyleAugust101973Paris_30" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="59" link="Room Conversation with Anna Conan Doyle, daughter-in-law of famous author, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle -- August 10, 1973, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Anna Conan Doyle, daughter-in-law of famous author, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle -- August 10, 1973, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Anna Conan Doyle, daughter-in-law of famous author, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle -- August 10, 1973, Paris|Room Conversation with Anna Conan Doyle, daughter-in-law of famous author, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle -- August 10, 1973, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: You may be in any material condition. Still you can develop your spiritual consciousness. That is there. But sometimes we accept a certain position for our personal convenience. That is another thing. But spiritual consciousness is not dependent on any material condition. It is spontaneous. Either he's a householder or a sannyāsī or brahmacārī or business man, or... It doesn't matter. He can become fully Kṛṣṇa conscious if he accepts the principles. (break) ...we have got our regulative principles, no illicit sex. So is it very difficult thing? A householder has got his wife. Why he should indulge in illicit sex? It is simply self-control. (aside:) You can keep it here. If somebody comes, you shall give him.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithSanskritProfessorAugust131973Paris_31" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="64" link="Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor -- August 13, 1973, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor -- August 13, 1973, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor -- August 13, 1973, Paris|Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor -- August 13, 1973, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Professor: (laughs) Well, you are a brāhmaṇa yourself.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. I am now sannyāsī.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: This is a statement of account from the Central Bank of India. It just arrived from London.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh. (pause, opens letter) Any other letter? No.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: That's all. No.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So just see how we have translated. You are Sanskrit scholar.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithSanskritProfessorAugust131973Paris_32" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="64" link="Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor -- August 13, 1973, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor -- August 13, 1973, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor -- August 13, 1973, Paris|Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor -- August 13, 1973, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Professor: Oh. Yes?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes. Because Vivekananda said, "Oh, what is the harm there, in eating? You can eat whatever you like. It doesn't matter in religion." It was the first. And he himself was eating anything. So all the Ramakrishna mission sannyāsīs still, they are eating meat, egg and everything, especially in America. Yes. Fish is no consideration. That is daily affair. And the turkey,... Yes. Instead of preaching here, they have taken the Western method. And Vivekananda's preaching is like Western missionaries-open hospitals, school...</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationSeptember21973London_33" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="70" link="Room Conversation -- September 2, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation -- September 2, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- September 2, 1973, London|Room Conversation -- September 2, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: First of all, you must become graduate, then you should take entrance in the law college, then you must learn. So what is God, that is the inquiry, but it requires training. And that is Vedic dharma, varṇāśrama-dharma. Varṇāśrama-dharma. Varṇāśramācaravatā puruṣeṇa paraḥ pumān ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 8.58|CC Madhya 8.58]]). Anyone who has taken to this system of varṇāśrama-dharma, four varṇas: brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra; and four āśrama: brahmacārī, gṛhastha, vānaprastha, sannyāsa. Unless one takes to this institutional education, he's no more than an animal. So to know God means he must become a brāhmaṇa, real, qualified brāhmaṇa. Therefore brāhmaṇa is respected.</p>
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<div id="InterviewswithMacmillanandvariousEnglishReportersSeptember121973London_34" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="74" link="Interviews with Macmillan and various English Reporters -- September 12, 1973, London" link_text="Interviews with Macmillan and various English Reporters -- September 12, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Interviews with Macmillan and various English Reporters -- September 12, 1973, London|Interviews with Macmillan and various English Reporters -- September 12, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: I was retired from my family life. I was living in a holy place called Vṛndāvana. I retired from my family life in 1954. Then, in 1959, I took sannyāsa order. This is called renounced order of life. No family connection .</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationSeptember191973Bombay_35" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="76" link="Room Conversation -- September 19, 1973, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- September 19, 1973, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- September 19, 1973, Bombay|Room Conversation -- September 19, 1973, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That is very dangerous. Then you will all fall down. If you make a joint mess, if you go and collect something and then eat and sleep, then everything will be... Therefore I do not want to keep separate. The temple worship means there will be regulative principles, that you will have to rise early in the morning, you have to attend class, kīrtana... These things, as soon as you give up all these things, zero. Then it will be like karmīs, as they are, hard labor, collecting money, and enjoying senses. That's all. So that is the pitfall everywhere. In the church, temple, as soon as they get some nice income, then in the name of "priest," "sādhu," "sannyāsī," they do the same thing. Therefore Gosvāmīs, they left everything. That is the danger of viṣaya, viṣaya touch.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithBankerSeptember211973Bombay_36" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="77" link="Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay|Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Gargamuni: Yes. We have to preach. (S.P. laughs)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. If by the dress of sannyāsī, you take some money and eat and sleep, then it is transcendental fraud. (SP laughs) (Hindi) Just like others are toiling, and we are getting money by some dress. That's all. They are getting money by laboring hard, and we are getting money... In India, mostly the sannyāsīs, they do that. The priests also, they do that. This is our profession, just... My Guru Mahārāja said that ṭhākura dekhiye pāya rasta karache, rastaye 'yandiya jīvika badram karam bhari (?). Instead of earning livelihood by showing the Deity in the temple, it is better to take the profession of a sweeper in the street and live honestly. He said like that.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithBankerSeptember211973Bombay_37" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="77" link="Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay|Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Perfect material plan.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. It is another way of earning money. And he was always after Guru Mahārāja only for this purpose. Guru Mahārāja took that "Oh, this man is helping me." But he had no such plan, to help Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī. He had the plan, "Keep Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī in front, earn money, and put it in my pocket." That was his very beginning. He was taking money like anything. But he was a good manager. Other God-brothers complained, sannyāsīs. Guru Mahārāja used to say that "Why you are complaining? You cannot reform him, your God-brother? And if I would have to keep expert manager like him, I would have to pay something.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithBankerSeptember211973Bombay_38" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="77" link="Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay|Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Now, they were coming from Juhu to bank. So where is the difficulty? Such responsible officer, bank manager, they are coming and going, and you sannyāsīs cannot come and go? He has got responsible duties, he has to arrive in the office exactly in time.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithBankerSeptember211973Bombay_39" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="77" link="Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay|Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: The meditation you can do, just like we are also doing meditation, chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra. But meditation as it is, to absorb the mind fully in God's vision, that is very difficult nowadays, at the present moment. People's mind is very disturbed. They cannot actually meditate. Therefore in this age, meditation, chanting the holy name of the Lord, that is recommended, congregationally. Just like we do, Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Hare Hare, Hare Rāma Hare Rāma Rāma Rāma... So there is no need of dark room. Just like this boy. He is also a responsible officer in New York. He is also chanting. All these sannyāsīs. And we have got all these beads. So there is no need of meditating in darkness. We are going on the open street. We are chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Hare Hare Hare Rāma... There is no difficulty.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationNovember11973NewDelhi_40" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="82" link="Room Conversation -- November 1, 1973, New Delhi" link_text="Room Conversation -- November 1, 1973, New Delhi">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- November 1, 1973, New Delhi|Room Conversation -- November 1, 1973, New Delhi]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Vīrarāghavācārya: deha-geha-gehayoḥ ātmiya buddhiḥ jihasaya tyāgecchāya (?). Ātma-buddhi, this family, society, friendship and love. Yes. To feel very much affection... What is called? Attached. Tyāgecchā. It should be given up. Therefore the sannyāsa āśrama. Just try to deliver this message very... Everyone is in darkness. Therefore I was speaking. They do not know what is siddhi. Yesterday, you were present? Yes.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationNovember21973NewDelhi_41" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="83" link="Room Conversation -- November 2, 1973, New Delhi" link_text="Room Conversation -- November 2, 1973, New Delhi">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- November 2, 1973, New Delhi|Room Conversation -- November 2, 1973, New Delhi]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Hmm. Every sane man should appreciate. When European and American young men, who are after material sense gratification, they're taking sannyāsa, it is not joke. They should appreciate it. In an age where material sense enjoyment is very prominent, and they give up everything for Kṛṣṇa, and they're going far away from their comfortable position... Just like Brahmānanda has gone to Africa. So what for? Unless they appreciate Kṛṣṇa consciousness, how they take up this job? This is practical. There is no question of theoretical.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationNovember31973NewDelhi_42" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="84" link="Room Conversation -- November 3, 1973, New Delhi" link_text="Room Conversation -- November 3, 1973, New Delhi">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- November 3, 1973, New Delhi|Room Conversation -- November 3, 1973, New Delhi]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That is special favor. In the beginning I was thinking, "Now my godbrothers, they have taken sannyāsa. They are begging from door to door. Why shall I beg? Let me earn money and start Kṛṣṇa consciousness." But that never happened. So I had to... I was obliged to take the dress of my godbrothers and preach, instead of earning money. Yes. Some astrologer told me that I should have been a man like a Birla. And I got all those chances in the chemical line, to become... Now I am bigger than Birla. That's all right. But even in business field, there were signs that in money things... I got so many good chances. But everything... Dr. Karttika Candra Bose he appreciated my activities, "Very intelligent boy." He certified to my father-in-law. This is the way of becoming rich man.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationNovember31973NewDelhi_43" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="84" link="Room Conversation -- November 3, 1973, New Delhi" link_text="Room Conversation -- November 3, 1973, New Delhi">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- November 3, 1973, New Delhi|Room Conversation -- November 3, 1973, New Delhi]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: I was simply planning in different way. Therefore Kṛṣṇa's favor. I never deviated from this plan. Since I heard it from my Guru Mahārāja, I've simply planning how to do it successfully. But I thought at that time, that "I'll be able to do it if I get some money. Let me do some business for the time." That I was thinking. But Kṛṣṇa said, "Even if you are pauper, you try; you'll get everything." But I thought, "Without money, how this can be done?" That was difference of opinion with Kṛṣṇa, argument. And I was dreaming also, Guru Mahārāja, asking me, "Come on." So I was going. So I was, "Oh, I have to go? I have to take sannyāsa?"</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember51973LosAngeles_44" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="90" link="Morning Walk -- December 5, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 5, 1973, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 5, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 5, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hṛdayānanda: So Prabhupāda, it says that a sannyāsī should live alone. That means only with devotees.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Who...! Where it is said sannyāsī should live alone?</p>
<p>Hṛdayānanda: I mean, sometimes in your books.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Eh?</p>
<p>Hṛdayānanda: Sometimes in your books. So that means with devotees.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: In general, sannyāsī may live alone. But sannyāsī's duty is to preach.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember51973LosAngeles_45" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="90" link="Morning Walk -- December 5, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 5, 1973, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 5, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 5, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That is our śāstric injunction, that as soon as you see a sannyāsī, you must bow down. Otherwise, you should fast one day. It doesn't matter, I or you. This is the injunction of the śāstra, that sannyāsī is supposed to be the guru of the society. So one must bow down.</p>
<p>Yaśomatīnandana: Prabhupāda, in our movement there are so many sannyāsīs. If we see the sannyāsī, same, so many times in one day, we should bow down every time we see him?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: If you can, of course.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember51973LosAngeles_46" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="90" link="Morning Walk -- December 5, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 5, 1973, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 5, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 5, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Yaśomatīnandana: Yes, Prabhupāda, but there's only one earthly planet, and you have conquered it already.</p>
<p>Umāpati: Is not a true Vaiṣṇava also a sannyāsī? Would you explain the difference between them?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Eh?</p>
<p>Umāpati: Is not a, one who is truly a Vaiṣṇava, is he not also a sannyāsī by his...?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Sannyāsī, sannyāsī is in the material platform, and Vaiṣṇava is in the spiritual platform.</p>
<p>Umāpati: So then the Vaiṣṇava is superior to a sannyāsī?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. He's not sannyāsī. He's above sannyāsī.</p>
<p>Umāpati: Oh. But a Vaiṣṇava would always offer his respects to a sannyāsī. Is that not true?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, Kṛṣṇa was offering respect to His elderly persons. That is etiquette.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember51973LosAngeles_47" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="90" link="Morning Walk -- December 5, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 5, 1973, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 5, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 5, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Umāpati: That is the mystical process of this movement.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, yes. So that their heart may be cleansed and they can understand. And if I sit down in a solitary place, for my benefit, that may be his benefit, but it is not very high class engagement. He must sacrifice for others. Pararthe prag utsri, utsri(?). That is the Cāṇakya Paṇḍita's moral instruction, that "Everyone should sacrifice for the Supreme." Caitanya Mahāprabhu is God Himself. He comes down to preach, to become sannyāsī, and to take so much trouble all over India and everywhere, and giving instruction and sending men, "Go, go, go, go." What? Why you...? He's perfect.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember121973LosAngeles_48" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="99" link="Morning Walk -- December 12, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 12, 1973, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 12, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 12, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Karandhara: Not the churches.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, not the churches. Our gṛhasthas will take part. The sannyāsīs will give advice. Directly the gṛhasthas will fight. Gṛhastha, not gṛhastha. There should be an administrative class. That is... Now it is prescribed in the Bhagavad-gītā. There should be four classes: brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra. Now, it is spoken by God. Therefore it should be rejected? Does it mean? God is for everything. What is this nonsense? And Kṛṣṇa acted as kṣatriya. Therefore He should not be God? Is that very good argument? God is all-inclusive. And religion means God's word, carrying out God's word. That is religion.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember121973LosAngeles_49" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="99" link="Morning Walk -- December 12, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 12, 1973, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 12, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 12, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prajāpati: The psychologists say it is unhealthy to go without sex life. The men these people trust, the psychologists, psychiatrists, say it is unhealthy.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, that is also, we know. But there is a process. Just like brahmacārī process is there, sannyāsī process is there. So if you adopt the process, you can restrict.</p>
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkJanuary31974LosAngeles_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="1" link="Morning Walk -- January 3, 1974, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- January 3, 1974, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- January 3, 1974, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- January 3, 1974, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Karandhara: Animal slaughter.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That will be still broader.</p>
<p>Karandhara: Yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: The three figures and one is in a suit, one... They all have tilaka, neck beads and bead bag...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Religious man may be in saffron color, a sannyāsī, a tridaṇḍī sannyāsī. Our Gurukṛpā Mahārāja? Where is he?</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkJanuary51974LosAngeles_1" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="2" link="Morning Walk -- January 5, 1974, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- January 5, 1974, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- January 5, 1974, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- January 5, 1974, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: "All right, some, become a serpent," "All right, you become a demigod," "All right, you become a human being," "All right, you become king," "You become a cobbler," "You go to the heavenly planets," "Go to the hellish planets." Varieties is there. Kṛṣṇa is so kind that He's changing varieties, atmosphere of life. But he's packed up in this material world. That freedom... He's asking for freedom, but he does not know the freedom is the shelter of Kṛṣṇa. That he'll not accept. Therefore Kṛṣṇa has arranged so many varieties. In disgust the Māyāvādīs, they want to make the varieties variety-less, nirviśeṣa. And the Buddhists they want to make it zero. But that is also not possible. Remain zero for some time. Again he will want varieties. Big, big Māyāvādī sannyāsī, they preach so much brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā, but again they come to the political work, social work.</p>
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<div id="QuestionsandAnswersJanuary171974Hawaii_2" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="11" link="Questions and Answers -- January 17, 1974, Hawaii" link_text="Questions and Answers -- January 17, 1974, Hawaii">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Questions and Answers -- January 17, 1974, Hawaii|Questions and Answers -- January 17, 1974, Hawaii]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Guest: Is the exterior identification important?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, important. Just like officially the policeman must dress, but a policeman sometimes in ordinary cloth also, that's his duty. But that is special case. But external, external dress is also required. By... In the dress of a police if he is a thief, that is very dangerous. That is very dangerous. Just like this dress of sannyāsī, saffron cloth, one will respect that "Here is a sannyāsī." But if he is a thief in a dress of a sannyāsī, that is dangerous. That is dangerous. One must dress...</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationFebruary61974Vrndavana_3" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="18" link="Room Conversation -- February 6, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation -- February 6, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- February 6, 1974, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- February 6, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So actually, that is the fact, and I was going to tell about Śrīdhara Swami. Śrīdhara Swami was a great devotee, so he was thinking of taking sannyāsa. So he was contemplating that "I shall now leave my home and take sannyāsa." So in the meantime, his wife became pregnant. Then he thought that "I was thinking like that. Anyway, this has happened, and if I take sannyāsa now, what people will say, that 'His wife is pregnant and he has taken sannyāsa, he has gone out of home.' " So he waited, the child was born, and the mother died. (laughing) Then he thought, "I do not know what Kṛṣṇa desires. Who will take care of this child, motherless child?" So that he was thinking very deeply. One lizard dropped before him, one small child lizard. Mother gave birth to a child this morning, and the small lizard was staying, and immediately small ant came before the mouth of that small lizard, and he ate.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationFebruary61974Vrndavana_4" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="18" link="Room Conversation -- February 6, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation -- February 6, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- February 6, 1974, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- February 6, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So it is recommended in the human form of life, first of all training as a brahmacārī, then he may remain as gṛhastha for sometime. The life is divided into four parts, twenty-five years. Suppose I live a hundred years: twenty-five years to become brahmacārī, remain as brahmacārī, and twenty-five years to remain as gṛhastha, family man, and twenty-five years as vānaprastha and twenty-five years as sannyāsa. This is system, Vedic system. Sannyāsa means vānaprastha is the prepāration for sannyāsa, and sannyāsa means completely dedicated to the service of Kṛṣṇa. This is our system. Just like you are spirit soul. Our business is not here. Our business in the spiritual world. Here, by circumstances you have fallen into the material condition, but if you take "This is all-in-all our duty," that is not advised in the śāstra. It is circumstances. We have fallen into, under certain circumstances, so we have to take care of.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkFebruary171974Bombay_5" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="21" link="Morning Walk -- February 17, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- February 17, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 17, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- February 17, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: ...that all sannyāsīs and sādhus must be treated very well...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: The sannyāsīs and sādhus, they are on the śānta-rasa, as you are. Yes, śānta-rasa, appreciating the greatness of the Supreme Absolute Truth. That is śānta-rasa. Brahman, Paramātmā. The Brahman feature of the Lord, all-pervading... Sarvaṁ khalv idaṁ brahma. That appreciation, that is śānta-rasa. Paramātmā. Īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ hṛd-deśe 'rjuna tiṣṭhati ([[Vanisource:BG 18.61 (1972)|BG 18.61]]). This is also śānta-rasa.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkFebruary191974Bombay_6" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="22" link="Morning Walk -- February 19, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- February 19, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 19, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- February 19, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Mr. Sar: Ohh. That is why their... This path is not good for mankind.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore, according to Vedic civilization, one must accept sannyāsa at a certain stage.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkFebruary191974Bombay_7" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="22" link="Morning Walk -- February 19, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- February 19, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 19, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- February 19, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: Maitraḥ karuṇa eva ca, nirmamo nirahaṅkāraḥ sama-duḥkha-sukhaḥ kṣamī ([[Vanisource:BG 12.13-14 (1972)|BG 12.13]]).</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Now, some of these Māyāvādī sannyāsīs accuse me that "Bhaktivedanta Swami is spoiling our Hindu religion." Means dveṣṭā. They do not like Christians. They do not like Mohammedans. But I am accepting Mohammedans, Christian, any damn rascal: "Come on. Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa."</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkFebruary191974Bombay_8" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="22" link="Morning Walk -- February 19, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- February 19, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 19, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- February 19, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: This is the culmination of a sannyāsī.</p>
<p>Mr. Sar: One who has no place, he lives everywhere.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Sannyāsa means aniketaḥ. Now we have got hundred temples. We have got hundred temples. But Kṛṣṇa does not allow me to stay eight days, more than.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: But how long you going to stay here? You have promised me to stay long, eh?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But if Kṛṣṇa allows...</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkFebruary191974Bombay_9" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="22" link="Morning Walk -- February 19, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- February 19, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 19, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- February 19, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: Through Kṛṣṇa the disciples are the sannyāsīs.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: (laughing) They are good disciples. They are bringing everything. I am simply ordering. Still, I think, "That was better, to depend on..."</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: What is Māyāvāda, Māyāvāda? This, we do not understand anything. māyā is a fact because it is the power of God, and you have got to work with it. So we are all of us are vādīs. Don't talk all these thing now Swamiji, I am going to fire him.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, why you have become angry?</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkFebruary201974Bombay_10" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="23" link="Morning Walk -- February 20, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- February 20, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 20, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- February 20, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: They came here... I have got many students. They came here for spiritual enlightenment, but they learned gañjā smoking and keeping high, big beard. You know. There is a sannyāsa-āśrama in Delhi. And people contribute them gañjā. Not only they, I know... My father, he was also attached to so many sannyāsīs. So in Kālī-ghāṭa, there was a sannyāsī...</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Sannyāsīs, those nāgā-bābās, they smoke.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Not nāgā... He was a regular sannyāsī, Māyāvādī sannyāsī. So my father was giving them the saffron cloth and gañjā. People accept it that this is one of the items.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch91974Mayapura_11" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="33" link="Morning Walk -- March 9, 1974, Mayapura" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 9, 1974, Mayapura">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 9, 1974, Mayapura|Morning Walk -- March 9, 1974, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: This is preaching. It doesn't matter whether one is sannyāsī or gṛhastha, Or a brāhmaṇa or a śūdra. It doesn't matter. If one knows the science of Kṛṣṇa then he can become guru. And He said, "By My order, you become guru and deliver your country." Ei deśa. Ei deśa means "your country." "So what is to be done?" "Now, just whomever you meet, you instruct him about the instruction given by Kṛṣṇa." (break) ...seeing that "Why our, you are living on the top of the temple?" You inform them that, "You have not seen yet temple. It is not temple."</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch91974Mayapura_12" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="33" link="Morning Walk -- March 9, 1974, Mayapura" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 9, 1974, Mayapura">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 9, 1974, Mayapura|Morning Walk -- March 9, 1974, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So how Caitanya Mahāprabhu treated them equally or gave better position to Rāmānanda Rāya than Rūpa Gosvāmī? This question was raised—not only now—when our Guru Mahārāja started Gauḍīya Maṭha. So he was allowing the sannyāsīs to live in palatial building and go in car for preaching work. So many such persons questioned, "How is that, sannyāsīs are going in car, living in palatial building?" So our Guru Mahārāja replied that "A devotee should be offered the best comfort of life. And if he would not have introduced this comfortable life, at the same time, to become pure devotee, then these devotees from Western countries will, would never come.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch91974Mayapura_13" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="33" link="Morning Walk -- March 9, 1974, Mayapura" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 9, 1974, Mayapura">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 9, 1974, Mayapura|Morning Walk -- March 9, 1974, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: It is just to give His personal example that a sannyāsī should not be very much intimately mixing with rich men. That is by His personal example. He was a sannyāsī. He refused to see a king because a king is supposed to be always busy in material affairs. So if... For the general people aspiring to go back to home, back to Godhead, for them, to mix with the materialistic persons is forbidden. Viṣayiṇāṁ sandarśanam atha yoṣitāṁ ca ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 11.8|CC Madhya 11.8]]). Those who are viṣayī, simply engaged in sense gratification, and yoṣitām... Yoṣitām means women or enjoyable things.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch91974Mayapura_14" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="33" link="Morning Walk -- March 9, 1974, Mayapura" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 9, 1974, Mayapura">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 9, 1974, Mayapura|Morning Walk -- March 9, 1974, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Caitanya Mahāprabhu, He was ideal sannyāsī, and He was living apart from any material attachment. But we have to do preaching work. We have to construct temple, comfortable temple. So who will pay for that?</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch121974Vrndavana_15" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="34" link="Morning Walk -- March 12, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 12, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 12, 1974, Vrndavana|Morning Walk -- March 12, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Bhagavān: Are śūdras supposed to take sannyāsa also?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, why?</p>
<p>Bhagavān: Śūdras...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Those who are śūdras, they should not be allowed to take sannyāsa. Only those who are qualified brāhmaṇas, they'll be allowed to take sannyāsa.</p>
<p>Bhagavān: Kṣatriyas used to take sannyāsa too?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Kṣatriyas... Some of them. Not all.</p>
<p>Guru dāsa: Yudhiṣṭhira Mahārāja?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Eh?</p>
<p>Guru dāsa: Yudhiṣṭhira Mahārāja.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: They did not take sannyāsa, but they left home. There is no need of accepting sannyāsa. One has to perform the devotional activities. That is real thing. Simply by changing dress, one does not improve. Unless he takes to the, seriously, principles of devotional service. But in the Kali-yuga, they'll think, "Because I have changed my dress, I have become a big sannyāsī." You see? "Because I have got a sacred thread, now I am a brāhmaṇa." No. There must be regular training. Hare Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch121974Vrndavana_16" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="34" link="Morning Walk -- March 12, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 12, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 12, 1974, Vrndavana|Morning Walk -- March 12, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Bhagavān: The whole idea is that at the end of everyone's life, everyone is required to leave home, perform devotional activities, but not necessarily take sannyāsa.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Devotional activities, either he leaves from home or not leaves, that doesn't matter. It must continue from the very beginning. For the management of affairs, we require to divide. Because there are different classes of brain, so those who have very intellectual brain, they should become brāhmaṇas. Those who are fit for management and protection, they should be trained as kṣatriya.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch121974Vrndavana_17" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="34" link="Morning Walk -- March 12, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 12, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 12, 1974, Vrndavana|Morning Walk -- March 12, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Tamāla-Kṛṣṇa: In our centers we are awarding brāhmaṇa initiation, second initiation...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. Initiation should go on. Even... You do not understand what I have said, that that is for Vaiṣṇava. A Vaiṣṇava and Viṣṇu... Just like Kṛṣṇa is Viṣṇu, He's not human being, but He was acting like human being, similarly, Vaiṣṇava is transcendental. But for proper management of the material world, one should be acting like brāhmaṇa, one should be acting like kṣatriya. That is required. Just like actually we are doing so. Some of you are preaching, and some of you are cleansing the temple. It does not mean that a sannyāsī who is preaching, he is better than that man who is cleansing. The... Their position as Vaiṣṇava is the same. But for the management, one is cleansing, one is seeing the construction, one is going to preach, like that. That should be there. It is not that "Because I have taken sannyāsa, therefore I cannot any more do anything."</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch141974Vrndavana_18" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="35" link="Morning Walk -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana|Morning Walk -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Ātreya Ṛṣi: Because we are not lazy like Māyāvādīs.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yeah. Ahaṁ brahmāsmi. "I have become now Brahman—stop work. Eat and make your belly..." You see how Māyāvādī sannyāsī... Ah. (Prabhupāda gestures; devotees laugh) They think that "Now I have become Brahman, I have nothing to do. (Prabhupāda laughs) I have become Nārāyaṇa." "If you've got nothing to do, then why you are eating?" And for one cāpāṭi you'll find there are many Māyāvādīs. They're busy simply collecting cāpāṭis. (devotees laugh) So what is time of your starting?</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkVarnasramaCollegeMarch141974Vrndavana_19" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="36" link="Morning Walk 'Varnasrama College' -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Morning Walk 'Varnasrama College' -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk 'Varnasrama College' -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana|Morning Walk 'Varnasrama College' -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hṛdayānanda: Would it be for a particular age group?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, any education, from childhood. Yes. Education means from childhood. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Kaumāra ācaret prājño dharmān bhāgavatān iha ([[Vanisource:SB 7.6.1|SB 7.6.1]]). The... How... We are getting so many sannyāsīs, they should teach. Teaching should be done by the sannyāsīs. Just like in missionary school, the fathers teaches.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkVarnasramaCollegeMarch141974Vrndavana_20" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="36" link="Morning Walk 'Varnasrama College' -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Morning Walk 'Varnasrama College' -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk 'Varnasrama College' -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana|Morning Walk 'Varnasrama College' -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Just like we do not want money. But they are having money by so many ways. So we take their money and construct a temple. We can sit down here and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. We don't require that temple. But these rascals are accumulating money for wine and women. Take their money, some way or other, and builds a temple. And invite them, "Come and see." Give them prasādam. This is our policy. We are not constructing big, big buildings and temples for our convenience. For their convenience. This is sannyāsī.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkVarnasramaCollegeMarch141974Vrndavana_21" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="36" link="Morning Walk 'Varnasrama College' -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Morning Walk 'Varnasrama College' -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk 'Varnasrama College' -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana|Morning Walk 'Varnasrama College' -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: You should remain always sannyāsī within. Outwardly, for others' convenience, you may do something. Similarly, we are accepting this varṇāśrama. We are not varṇāśrama; we are above varṇāśrama. But to give others facility to come to the stage of Kṛṣṇa consciousness, this program must be done.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch171974Vrndavana_22" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="40" link="Morning Walk -- March 17, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 17, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 17, 1974, Vrndavana|Morning Walk -- March 17, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Balavanta: Yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes (break) ...assistants selected, so many sannyāsīs, and do it. You take the leaders.</p>
<p>Balavanta: Yes. (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: ...idea.</p>
<p>Balavanta: Yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is intelligence. (break) And we shall pollute the whole world with this nuisance.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch241974Bombay_23" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="44" link="Morning Walk -- March 24, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 24, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 24, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 24, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: ...whether he's a kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra whether he's a sannyāsī or a gṛhastha. That karma. And that karma when he does without any expectation of any fruits, that karma is as good as bhakti according to this line, svakarmaṇā tam abhyarcya siddhiṁ vindati mānavaḥ.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. Without... The result should be there, but tam, unto Kṛṣṇa. Give the result to Kṛṣṇa. Tam abhyarcya. Not self. You earn lakhs of rupees, but tam abhyarcya, give to Kṛṣṇa. Not take it yourself or distribute amongst your children. That is service. Tam abhyarcya. Tam abhyarcya. First of all understand this word, tam. Tam abhyarcya.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch251974Bombay_24" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="45" link="Morning Walk -- March 25, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 25, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 25, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 25, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: But a sannyāsīs are also from the varṇāśrama.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: They are also. They are also. Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu has denied: "I am not a sannyāsī, I am not a brāhmaṇa, I am not a kṣatriya, I am not a vaiśya, none of these." He said, gopī-bhartuḥ pada-kamalayor dāsa-dāsānudāsaḥ ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 13.80|CC Madhya 13.80]]). "I am the servant of the servant of Gopī-bhartuḥ." That is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's identification. So those who are actually in the, engaged in the service of the Lord, they are beyond, transcendental to the position of brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya... Yes.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch271974Bombay_25" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="47" link="Morning Walk -- March 27, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 27, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 27, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 27, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: That is there in Swami Nārāyaṇa's sampradāya. If you go to temple, a sannyāsī you can't see, but the people for saṁsārīs, saṁsārīs (?)... (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But the men come from women. (Heavy wind noise throughout)</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: That's right. But here we are talking of that.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So if they are, women are extricated, then where the Swami Nārāyaṇa's devotees will come from?</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: And if they come from home, not from the temple.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But home means, that is from a woman.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch271974Bombay_26" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="47" link="Morning Walk -- March 27, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 27, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 27, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 27, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: Sādhus, not sannyāsīs. (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: In European countries, in European countries, if you restrict in that way, that will be fanaticism.</p>
<p>Guest (1): That is what I am telling you. It should not be done immediately like that. (break) ...it must be trained, and it will take a long time.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch291974Bombay_27" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="48" link="Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Those who are meat-eaters, you cannot stop them all of a sudden. Similarly, drunkards. You cannot stop them, drunkards, "Don't drink." They'll not hear you. Therefore restriction. "Yes, you can drink, after offering to the devī," and that means restriction. So what is the meaning of marriage? Because sex like the cats and dogs, stop it. Just get married. In this way, otherwise, you may say "No marriage." Just like, the other day these sannyāsīs come, because saw woman was sitting, they'll not enter. But I saw their teeth was so unclean, and the dress was never washed. But they have got this restriction, no seeing of woman.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch291974Bombay_28" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="48" link="Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Indian man (4): That is the right. If you...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is wanted. They were saying they are sannyāsī,...</p>
<p>Indian man (2): They say like that, but it is not...</p>
<p>Indian man (4): They were small boys, what will they know about it?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But why they are...</p>
<p>Indian man (3): The boys are taught like this from...</p>
<p>Indian man (4): Those days you must follow.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, rāmānandī, rāmānandī(?)</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch301974Bombay_29" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="49" link="Morning Walk -- March 30, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 30, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 30, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 30, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Chandobhai: Śaśvac chāntiṁ adhigacchati, kaunteya pratijānīhi...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Ah. Na me bhaktaḥ praṇaśyati.</p>
<p>Chandobhai: (quotes Sanskrit in background) (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: ...may be callous. Just like some, somebody was asking me... That rascal Bharati's article. Who? That one Australian sannyāsī. So this rascal may speak something, but we cannot stop our movement. You see? Our movement is increasing, all over the world in, in spite of all criticism. We don't care for that. Because we know that we are following the footsteps of predecessor ācārya, that's all right. We don't mind. And actually, it is happening. Otherwise, within six, seven years, so much progress could not be possible. (break) What is the word, exact?</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch311974Bombay_30" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="50" link="Morning Walk -- March 31, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 31, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 31, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 31, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Ārto, ārto jijñāsi means gṛhasthas.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Teṣāṁ jñānī...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: And jñānī and jijñāsu, sannyāsīs.</p>
<p>Mr. Sar: Jñānī and... I see. Ārto and...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Ārto and... Because they, the grhasthas, they feel distress of this material world.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: That is, they are ārtas.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Ārtas. They are in need of money. But a sannyāsī is not in need of money, neither he cares for these worldly miseries.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril11974Bombay_31" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="51" link="Morning Walk -- April 1, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 1, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 1, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 1, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That's all right, Brahma-light. But the Brahma-light, according to Bhāgavata philosophy, even one enters in the Brahman effulgence, still he falls down. Still he falls down. Arūhya kṛcchreṇa paraṁ padaṁ tataḥ patanty adhaḥ anādhṛta-yusmad-aṅghrayaḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 10.2.32|SB 10.2.32]]). Unless one is fixed up in the personal form of the Lord, there is chance of falling down. They fall down actually. We have seen so many sannyāsīs. Just like at the present moment, Korpatali(?). He's now busy in politics.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: One man married in America, some sannyāsī.</p>
<p>Chandobhai: Citrabhānu, Citrabhānu.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Citrabhānu, or... (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: ...one is God.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril21974Bombay_32" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="52" link="Morning Walk -- April 2, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 2, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 2, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 2, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel:</p>
:śubhāśubha-phalair evaṁ
:mokṣyase karma-bandhanaiḥ
:sannyāsa-yoga-yuktātmā
:vimukto mām upaiṣyasi
:([[Vanisource:BG 9.28 (1972)|BG 9.28]])
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Sannyāsa-yoga means sa sannyāsī, the one who acts for Kṛṣṇa, sa sannyāsī.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Sannyāsa-yoga-yuktātmā. Means you have actually, I mean, sannyāsa means nyāsa of all attachment for the...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Nyāsa means giving up, giving up. Sat nyāsa, sannyāsa. Oṁ tat sat. Sat is Kṛṣṇa. Therefore when you sacrifice everything for Kṛṣṇa, that is real sannyāsa, not this dress. This dress is symbolical. That's all. Real thing is kāryaṁ karma karoti ya. Kāryam. "Oh, it is my... Kṛṣṇa wants, everyone should surrender unto Him. Then I shall teach everyone to surrender to Kṛṣṇa." Kāryam. "This is my business." Kāryaṁ karma karoti, sa sannyāsī. What is that kāryam? Kāryam means this is kāryam.</p>
<p>Chandobhai: Yajñā dana tapa.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril21974Bombay_33" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="52" link="Morning Walk -- April 2, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 2, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 2, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 2, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: Sannyāsa-yoga-yuktātmā vimukto mām upaiṣyasi.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Ah, karyam, that one should take the order of the guru, because guru is the representative of Kṛṣṇa. So when one takes... That is explained by Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura in connection with the verse:</p>
:vyavasāyātmikā buddhir
:ekeha kuru-nandana
:bahu-śākhā hy anantāś ca
:buddhayo 'vyavasāyinām
:([[Vanisource:BG 2.41 (1972)|BG 2.41]])
<p>So the vyavasāyīs, those who are fixed up in the words of guru, "So guru has ordered me to do it. Oh, that is my life. I do not know whether I will be promoted to heaven or hell. It doesn't matter. I shall execute..."</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril81974Bombay_34" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="58" link="Morning Walk -- April 8, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 8, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 8, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 8, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Yaśomatīnandana: That is the special quality of Kali-yuga, that śūdra class people will take up the preaching of Vedas.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. And even followers of Śaṅkarācārya... Śaṅkarācārya does not give anyone any recognition unless he's a sannyāsī. That is the strict principle of Śaṅkara sampradāya. They are gṛhamedhis and they are thinking they are advanced in spiritual consciousness. Śaṅkarācārya does not give anyone any position unless he is in the renounced order of life.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril81974Bombay_35" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="58" link="Morning Walk -- April 8, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 8, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 8, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 8, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Girirāja: (break) ...sign of a great devotee is also to be always absorbed in...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore in their sampradāya it is a custom, as soon as he takes sannyāsa, he becomes Nārāyaṇa. "Namo nārāyaṇa." (laughs) That is an allurement. So this... Even one says that he is follower of Śaṅkarācārya, but there is no meaning in it. Unless one is a sannyāsī, he cannot say that he is follower of Śaṅkarācārya. Śaṅkarācārya took sannyāsa at the age of eight years.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril131974Bombay_36" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="62" link="Morning Walk -- April 13, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 13, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 13, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 13, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: (break) ...presence of a brāhmaṇa, of a sannyāsī, in the household, in the house of a householder, means to enlighten. Mahad-vicalanaṁ nṛnām gṛhinām gṛhacet dīna-cetasām. The gṛhasthas, they are very cripple-minded. They are satisfied with the family, and they do not know that anything else to do. Therefore it is the duty of the sannyāsī and the brāhmaṇas to go to the householder's home and enlighten them spiritually. Therefore purohita. Go on. (break) ...pura. Purasara means "in the front", and hita means welfare. So one who conducts welfare of the householder. Guru-purohita. Every family must have guru and purohita for spiritual advancement. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril131974Bombay_37" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="62" link="Morning Walk -- April 13, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 13, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 13, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 13, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So gṛhamedhi, they have no aim of life, of self-realization. Apaśyatām ātma-tattvam ([[Vanisource:SB 2.1.2|SB 2.1.2]]). That is described in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. Nṛnāṁ santi sahasraśaḥ. (break) ...self-realization. Nṛnāṁ santi sahasraśaḥ. Apaśyatām ātma-tattvam ([[Vanisource:SB 2.1.2|SB 2.1.2]]), who cannot see what is the ātma-tattvam, what is the path of self-realization. Gṛheṣu gṛhamedhinām. Therefore it is the duty of the sannyāsī... Sannyāsī does not mean that he will beg for fulfilling his hungry belly. Sannyāsī means he must enlighten—that is sannyāsī—in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. (break) ...rājendra nṛnaṁ santi sahasrasaḥ apaśyatām ātma-tattvaṁ gṛheṣu gṛha-medhinām ([[Vanisource:SB 2.1.2|SB 2.1.2]]). This is the Sukadeva Gosvāmī says that śrotavyādīni rājendra ([[Vanisource:SB 2.1.2|SB 2.1.2]]), subject matter for hearing nrnam, for the human being, nṛnāṁ santi sahasraśaḥ, thousands of... Just like in the newspaper in the morning, thousands of varieties of news they will attend, and ask them to attend the maṅgala ārati for self-realization, "No, that is not... You are disturbing, nonsense." This is gṛhamedhi. Gṛheṣu gṛhamedhinām. Vedic culture is that one must rise early in the morning. And even Kṛṣṇa in His gṛhastha life, immediately He rose up.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril141974Bombay_38" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="63" link="Morning Walk -- April 14, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 14, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 14, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 14, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: But still, I mean personally, for myself, I don't have any taste for any food. In fact I have been taking all the food together just like the sannyāsīs and I don't have any taste. But still I have from within me I don't find that form of sex carrying out even though I am a scientist.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Caitanya Mahāprabhu used to say that "Sex life is so strong that even if I see one wooden female form I become excited."</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril141974Bombay_39" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="63" link="Morning Walk -- April 14, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 14, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 14, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 14, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: ...if I go to place, jataji bhikṣā dijiye, so everyone will be compassionate. And it is our duty, at least in Vedic civilization, that when a sannyāsī comes he is received. Aiye, mahārāja, betiye. Still. Still in the villages they do that. Just like it is mentioned in the śāstra that brahmacārīs and sannyāsīs should be taken as the sons of the society.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril141974Bombay_40" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="63" link="Morning Walk -- April 14, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 14, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 14, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 14, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: ...there is a temple, Tarakeśvara, in Hoogli district. So Lord Śiva... So people, I mean to say, pray that "If my this disease is cured or if I get this victory, I shall become a sannyāsī for a month." (laughs) So that system is going on. They become sannyāsīs for one month. There are hundreds and thousands.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril141974Bombay_41" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="63" link="Morning Walk -- April 14, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 14, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 14, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 14, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: This is called "one month sannyāsī." That is not mentioned in the śāstra, but it has come into custom. (break) ...and if he returns, he is called vāntāśī, yes, "eating the vomit."</p>
<p>Indian Man (1): Before giving sannyāsa the teacher will take proper care that his mind is already peaceful and all... (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: ...obeisances, we take out our shoes. That is a system.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril161974Bombay_42" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="64" link="Morning Walk -- April 16, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 16, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 16, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 16, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: Sa sannyāsī ca yogi ca.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Go on.</p>
<p>Girirāja: "The transcendental form of the Supreme Personality of Godhead is perfect or so great that the impersonal followers of the Upaniṣads cannot..." (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Sometimes we...</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril201974Hyderabad_43" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="69" link="Morning Walk -- April 20, 1974, Hyderabad" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 20, 1974, Hyderabad">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 20, 1974, Hyderabad|Morning Walk -- April 20, 1974, Hyderabad]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Mahāṁsa: Oh, yes, his whole family was there. Mr. Pulla Reddy was there.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, Pulla Reddy, I have seen. (break) He is so much convinced in with our philosophy in Bombay, he is going to take sannyāsa.</p>
<p>Mahāṁsa: Oh, in Hare Kṛṣṇa Land?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Although he is officially Shaivite, but he says that "I am so much convinced with your speech."</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril201974Hyderabad_44" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="69" link="Morning Walk -- April 20, 1974, Hyderabad" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 20, 1974, Hyderabad">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 20, 1974, Hyderabad|Morning Walk -- April 20, 1974, Hyderabad]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Indian man (1): Yes, he doesn't know.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, he does not know. Sometimes, before my taking sannyāsa, sometimes I used to see him. So once upon a time he asked me, "Swamiji, you are simply writing in English?" So I asked him, "What you are doing?" So he began to laugh.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril241974Hyderabad_45" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="72" link="Morning Walk -- April 24, 1974, Hyderabad" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 24, 1974, Hyderabad">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 24, 1974, Hyderabad|Morning Walk -- April 24, 1974, Hyderabad]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Then they will be very much pleased. And as soon as you criticize, that "You are doing this wrong, you will suffer." "Oh, yes, this Swamiji is not (indistinct)." That is going on everywhere. In the name of religion you do all nonsense rascaldom, and the leader approves, "Yes, you can do." Vivekananda did it. "Yes, there is no difference between eating meat and not eating eat in terms of religion system." He preached this, and all the sannyāsīs of the Ramakrishna Mission they eat meat, they drink, they have woman secretary, everything. This Chinmayananda is also like that. I know his whole mischief. Unless one is purely Kṛṣṇa conscious, one cannot give up all these bad habits. This is the test. Bhaktiḥ pareśānubhavo viraktir anyatra caiṣa ([[Vanisource:SB 11.2.42|SB 11.2.42]]).</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril241974Hyderabad_46" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="72" link="Morning Walk -- April 24, 1974, Hyderabad" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 24, 1974, Hyderabad">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 24, 1974, Hyderabad|Morning Walk -- April 24, 1974, Hyderabad]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: (Prabhupāda talks meaningless words, imitating the rascals; devotees laugh) They go on speaking like this. And people, "Oh, how amazing!" Simply give some grammatical form and talk all nonsense, people will appreciate. Jugglery. This is called jugglery. The Māyāvādī paṇḍitas also do that. All the Māyāvādīs are against me, because I am talking about Bhagavad-gītā as it is, and they screw their own meaning by jugglery of words. So they are all enemies. The Māyāvādī sannyāsīs, smārta-paṇḍitas, all of them. (break) ...has constructed a śiva-liṅga temple.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkatVillaBorgheseMay261974Rome_47" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="86" link="Morning Walk at Villa Borghese -- May 26, 1974, Rome" link_text="Morning Walk at Villa Borghese -- May 26, 1974, Rome">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk at Villa Borghese -- May 26, 1974, Rome|Morning Walk at Villa Borghese -- May 26, 1974, Rome]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That is not possible. He has to leave it. Just like these Romans. They have left. They constructed so big, big building just to enjoy, but they had to leave it by nature's force and accept another body. That they do not know. They are satisfied, "Never mind, I accept the next life a dog's body. Now let me enjoy this, say, twenty-five years or fifty years, that's all." This is their philosophy. No future. "Trust no future, however pleasant." In India, those who are interested in spiritual life, they take sannyāsa. Everybody sannyāsa, bābājī. Rūpa Gosvāmī gave up his service, everything, and became no possessions voluntarily. Big, big kings, Bharata Mahārāja... To practice that "I have no more interest in anything material." (break) ...introduction of my Guru Mahārāja that sannyāsīs and preachers may use big, big buildings, motorcars and..., just to give the information to the western world. Because they, if you ask them, that "You become a mendicant, possessionless," still, they are not very much interested. Because they see our dress, our living condition is not very equal to their standard, they do not like.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMay281974Rome_48" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="88" link="Morning Walk -- May 28, 1974, Rome" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 28, 1974, Rome">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 28, 1974, Rome|Morning Walk -- May 28, 1974, Rome]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Yogeśvara: But that's not possible for the mass of people.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, why not possible? We have got so many, just like Śukadeva Gosvāmī. He remained completely brahmacārī, although naked he is. He is. He doesn't require, and neither he is agitated. Just like when he was passing, the girls were taking bath. They did not take care. They knew that he is not at all affected by any woman. And when his father was going, they covered. So father inquired, Vyāsadeva, a personality like Vyāsadeva, said, "Why you covered? I am old man, and my young son he was passing naked." They said that "He is paramahaṁsa. He has no agitation of the mind. But you are gṛhastha. You live with woman. You have got distinction, man and woman." So this is civilization. What is the use of sex life? It is simply entanglement. Therefore, at the last stage, one is supposed to become sannyāsī. What is sannyāsī? Vānaprastha, sannyāsī, brahmacārī—no sex life. Out of the four different status of life, the brahmacārī has no sex life, the vānaprastha has no sex life, the sannyāsī has no sex life. Only the gṛhastha. That means it is prohibitory. It is allowed—it is simply concession to the person who cannot remain without sex life. It is simply a concession.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMay281974Rome_49" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="88" link="Morning Walk -- May 28, 1974, Rome" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 28, 1974, Rome">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 28, 1974, Rome|Morning Walk -- May 28, 1974, Rome]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: There are so many troubles. You have to raise them nicely, you have to give them education, you must be situated nicely. That is the duty of father. Otherwise, he would go on, begetting like cats and dogs, no responsibility. Just like some of our students, immediately married and again, "Give me sannyāsa." What is this? Irresponsible, that's all. Irresponsibility. So these things are not required at all. These things are not required. Bahu-duḥkha-bhājaḥ. After marrying they see it is very great responsibility. "Now let me take sannyāsa." That's all. Why you marry? Because he finds that after marriage there are so many difficulties. So irresponsible man. So after there is difficulties; that's a fact. So why should you go to the difficulty? Therefore the conclusion is the married life is not required. But if you cannot tolerate, all right, get this concession, live very gentlemanly.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithMonsieurRoostHathayogiMay311974Geneva_50" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="92" link="Room Conversation with Monsieur Roost, Hatha-yogi -- May 31, 1974, Geneva" link_text="Room Conversation with Monsieur Roost, Hatha-yogi -- May 31, 1974, Geneva">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Monsieur Roost, Hatha-yogi -- May 31, 1974, Geneva|Room Conversation with Monsieur Roost, Hatha-yogi -- May 31, 1974, Geneva]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Nitāi: Western.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. They are all western. They have taken to it. They have given up all such habits. In the beginning they were coming to me with their girlfriends, boyfriends. I said, "No, you cannot stay like that." So they agreed. I have got them married personally. They have got children. If you want to live as gṛhastha, live. If you want to live as vānaprastha or as sannyāsa... So generally, young men, young girls, I get them married. There is no harm. Married life, sex life, that is allowed in the śāstra. But not illicit sex. That is not allowed.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithRobertGouiranNuclearPhysicistfromEuropeanCenterforNuclearResearchJune51974Geneva_51" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="100" link="Room Conversation with Robert Gouiran, Nuclear Physicist from European Center for Nuclear Research -- June 5, 1974, Geneva" link_text="Room Conversation with Robert Gouiran, Nuclear Physicist from European Center for Nuclear Research -- June 5, 1974, Geneva">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Robert Gouiran, Nuclear Physicist from European Center for Nuclear Research -- June 5, 1974, Geneva|Room Conversation with Robert Gouiran, Nuclear Physicist from European Center for Nuclear Research -- June 5, 1974, Geneva]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Puṣṭa-kṛṣṇa: And to please Him.</p>
<p>Yogeśvara: So that is also the perfection for the sannyāsī; the perfection of his work also is devotion to the Supreme.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: If you renounce something for zero, then what is the value of renunciation: There must be something better. Then you renounce. Otherwise what is the value of renunciation? To become zero?</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationJune111974Paris_52" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="107" link="Room Conversation -- June 11, 1974, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation -- June 11, 1974, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- June 11, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation -- June 11, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: We do not deny anything. We simply request, "Be civilized, Kṛṣṇa conscious." And this is practical; everyone is seeing this. We have got gṛhasthas, vānaprasthas, brahmacārī, sannyāsī. We have no such objection.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkJune121974Paris_53" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="110" link="Morning Walk -- June 12, 1974, Paris" link_text="Morning Walk -- June 12, 1974, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 12, 1974, Paris|Morning Walk -- June 12, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Yogeśvara: Blessings of...?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Adversity. Yes. Therefore, according to Vedic system, big, big king, they give up their kingdom and becomes a sannyāsī, mendicant, voluntary acceptance of adversity. This is good. To live very comfortably and forget God is not good business.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithdevoteesaboutTwelfthCantoKaliyugaandConversationwithGuestJune151974Paris_54" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="119" link="Room Conversation with devotees about Twelfth Canto Kali-yuga, and Conversation with Guest -- June 15, 1974, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with devotees about Twelfth Canto Kali-yuga, and Conversation with Guest -- June 15, 1974, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with devotees about Twelfth Canto Kali-yuga, and Conversation with Guest -- June 15, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation with devotees about Twelfth Canto Kali-yuga, and Conversation with Guest -- June 15, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Yogeśvara: This is all from the Twelfth Canto?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Foretold, five thousand years ago. Here said, tapasvino grāma-vāsā nyāsino 'tyartha-lolupāḥ: "And the sannyāsīs, they'll be too much greedy about money."</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkatMarinadelReyJuly141974LosAngeles_55" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="142" link="Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 14, 1974, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 14, 1974, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 14, 1974, Los Angeles|Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 14, 1974, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That is stated in the śāstra. Tīrthī-kurvanti tīrthāni svāntaḥ-sthena gadābhṛtā. Because a pure devotee carries Kṛṣṇa within his heart, therefore wherever he goes he makes a holy place. It is said in the śāstra. So not me, but every one of you, if you are pure devotee of Kṛṣṇa, then wherever you'll go, that is a holy place. Tīrthī-kurvanti tīrthāni svāntaḥ... To become sannyāsī means that, that he'll be pure devotee, and wherever he will go, he will purify. That is sannyāsa means. Mahad-vicalaṁ nṛnāṁ gṛhināṁ dīna-cetasām. Mahātmās, they'll travel so that the householders, who are cripple-minded and full of sinful activities, they'll go there and make them purified. This is the idea of sannyāsa. And in the Vedic civilization a brahmacārī and a sannyāsī has open door. There is no restriction. No "Beware of dog." (laughter) But now they are prohibited. I have got practical experience. After my sannyāsa, when I was touring India, so in Ahmedabad, or Baroda, I was entering one man's house. So he was standing on the balcony.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkatMarinadelReyJuly141974LosAngeles_56" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="142" link="Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 14, 1974, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 14, 1974, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 14, 1974, Los Angeles|Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 14, 1974, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Bali Mardana: The age of Kali is perpetrating itself. (pause)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: It is not their fault. Because in India a sannyāsī has become a professional beggar. Just change the dress and you can easily eat without any working.</p>
<p>Bali Mardana: And smoke beedies.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Everything they do. In our childhood we had a house for rental. There was a man. He was a professional beggar. You see? So other members of the house, they'll go to their office. He'll dress himself just like a sannyāsī and go for begging. (laughter) That was his business. (pause) Here in your country there is no such opportunity, but in India there is good opportunity. If you make a dress of sannyāsī, you can go anywhere, and you'll be respectable. They'll give you for eating.</p>
<p>Bali Mardana: Especially they prey on the women.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkatMarinadelReyJuly141974LosAngeles_57" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="142" link="Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 14, 1974, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 14, 1974, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 14, 1974, Los Angeles|Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 14, 1974, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Bali Mardana: In Delhi I went to one minister's house to get some papers. I could see in the back of the house the lady was entertaining some sannyāsī with sweetmeats and drinks.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: Our men have to change their dress before they go out, brahmacārīs. That's the only way they can beg in this country.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkatMarinadelReyJuly141974LosAngeles_58" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="142" link="Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 14, 1974, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 14, 1974, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 14, 1974, Los Angeles|Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 14, 1974, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Umāpati: Śrīla Prabhupāda? We, because of our fallen condition, do require many mechanical means by which we can offer one another respects and to teach one another examples of scripture. For example, we are asked to bow our bodies down to show respects, or to call one another "prabhu," to understand that each person is a spiritual master to the other. How is a... How are the boys and girls to learn these things in manners of decorum and manners from the sannyāsīs, for example. How are they to offer respects to their godbrothers. And, uh... (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: You can. You behave like that, others will learn.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationAugust121975PariswithFrenchtranslator_59" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="144" link="Room Conversation -- August 12, 1975, Paris (with French translator)" link_text="Room Conversation -- August 12, 1975, Paris (with French translator)">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 12, 1975, Paris (with French translator)|Room Conversation -- August 12, 1975, Paris (with French translator)]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Even if you see that the other plane is flying a few yards and if it is in fire, you cannot help. There is one nice story that one hunter was hunting birds and he spread his network. So when the children of the parent birds, they become victimized by the network. So when the parents came, they saw, "Oh, my children have been caught up by the net of the hunter." So mother became very overwhelmed. She went to rescue them and she also become victimized. Then the father was intelligent, he saw that "My children, my wife, they all have been victimized, and if I foolishly go to save them, then I will be also victimized. Let me go this way." Take sannyāsa and go. No responsibility. It is not possible when everyone is captured by the laws of nature. How you can help and what is your responsibility? So this is called māyā. The children are thinking that "My father and mother will give me protection," and the father and mother is thinking that "There is my responsibility." This is called māyā.</p>
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