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<h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<h3>1969 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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So if we find one or two intelligent person, ekaś candras tamo hanti na ca tārā . . . then one moon is sufficient to eradicate all darkness. There is no need of millions of stars. Kṛṣṇa consciousness is so beautiful. You call any intelligent person, we are prepared to convince him. Any intelligent. He must be little intelligent. That's all.
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[[Vanisource:690512 - Conversation with Allen Ginsberg - Columbus|690512 - Conversation with Allen Ginsberg - Columbus]]
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Allen Ginsberg: But the question I'm posing still is this: You accept the possibility of a series of Kṛṣṇa consciousness centers in the United States?

Prabhupāda: Yes. Provided a man is not adversely inclined. Otherwise it is very simple.

Allen Ginsberg: But what I'm wondering is how far beyond exclusive centers, how far beyond that can it go in the United States? How far beyond a special study cult centers can a Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement or any religious movement grow? 'Cause the need is for a large, single, unifying religious movement in America.

Prabhupāda: Yes. So here is Kṛṣṇa, all-attractive. You now find out . . . you can say: "Why I shall accept Kṛṣṇa?" You can say like that. Your first question is the unifying agent. I say: "Here is Kṛṣṇa." Now we can analyze, "Why you shall accept Kṛṣṇa?" Then I shall reply, "Why you shall not?" What do you want, expect, from the Supreme or the unifying? What do you expect? Everything is there in Kṛṣṇa. Opulence—Kṛṣṇa. Beauty—Kṛṣṇa. Wisdom—Kṛṣṇa. Renunciation—Kṛṣṇa. Strength—Kṛṣṇa. Everything Kṛṣṇa. Whatever you want, you'll find in Kṛṣṇa. That is the unifying center. That I will convince you. He is the unifying center actually.

And Bhagavad-gītā it is said, mama vartmānuvartante manuṣyāḥ partha sarvaśaḥ. "Everyone is trying to come to Me." "Everyone is trying to come to Me," ye yathā māṁ prapadyante ([[Vanisource:BG 4.11 (1972)|BG 4.11]]). "But he's realizing Me in My different phases. But everyone is trying." So, so far unifying religion is concerned, there are three groups, impersonalist, personalist and localized.

Some are trying to understand the Absolute Truth in impersonal way. Some are . . . the yogīs, the mental speculators, they are trying to understand the Absolute in impersonal, without any personal form. And the yogīs, they are trying to find out Kṛṣṇa within their heart, meditation. And somebody is . . . some are trying to find out the Absolute Truth in person by reciprocating love. So all these things are in Kṛṣṇa. And Bhāgavata says, after explanation of that verse, that it is the only business of human being to find out the Absolute Truth.

Now, the next verse, the Absolute Truth is explained, analyzed, vadanti tat tattva-vidas tattvaṁ yaj jñānam advayam ([[Vanisource:SB 1.2.11|SB 1.2.11]]).

Now, Absolute Truth is always one. There is no . . . absolute Truth cannot be two. Then it is relative truth. Absolute Truth means one. So the knowledge of the Absolute Truth is one. Vadanti tat tattva-vida. Tattva-vida means those who are in knowledge of the Absolute Truth, they say that Absolute Truth is one. But He's realized in three phases. Brahmeti paramātmeti bhagavān iti śabdyate. Brahman means impersonal, and Paramātmā is localized, and Bhagavān, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So these are different stages.

Just like the sun. The first experience of sun is this impersonal effulgence all over the sky. But that is not very important than the sun globe, because it is from the sun globe the effulgence is coming. So anyone will understand that this sunshine is not so important as the sun globe. And if you approach the sun globe and if you penetrate into the sun, if you have got strength to go into the . . . just like you are trying go to the moon planet. If you have got really scientific strength to go within the sun planet, then you'll find there is sun-god.

That information we get from Bhagavad-gītā. Imaṁ vivasvate yogaṁ proktavān aham avyayam ([[Vanisource:BG 4.1 (1972)|BG 4.1]]) "I told to sun-god Vivasvān first." So therefore there is a person. And why not a person? Your imagination is not ultimate truth. We get information from Kṛṣṇa, there is a person, Vivasvān. So there is a person, he's sitting there. Person, globe, sun, sunshine. Which is important? Which is important?

Allen Ginsberg: The person, the globe or the sunshine?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Allen Ginsberg: (laughs) I don't know.

Prabhupāda: Why you don't know? You cannot say them? Which of them? These three things are presented. The sunshine, the sun globe, and within the sun globe, the sun-god. Who is important?

Allen Ginsberg: If we could apprehend it in terms of person, the person.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Allen Ginsberg: But if we could apprehend it only in terms of the globe, then the globe.

Prabhupāda: So that means your approach may be up to globe. But that is not finished.

Allen Ginsberg: Yes.

Prabhupāda: That is not finished. You have to go . . . that is . . . Upaniṣad says that, he's praying that "Please wind up Your effulgence so that I can see Your true face." The Upaniṣad says. You see in the Upaniṣad. And he's praying that, "Please wind up Your this glaring effulgence so that I can see Your real face." So real face is there. And Bhagavad-gītā says, brahmaṇo 'ham pratiṣṭhā: "This impersonal Brahman is standing on My existence." And Brahma-saṁhitā says that:

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:yasyā prabha prabhavato jagad-aṇḍa-koṭi-
:koṭiṣv aśeṣa-vasudhAdi vibhūti-bhinnam
:tad brahma niṣkalam anantam aśeṣa-bhūtaṁ
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi 
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This Brahman effulgence is nothing but His bodily effulgence. You see whenever we put Kṛṣṇa, there's a bodily effulgence. Within that bodily effulgence every creation is there. Just like this effulgence of sun. Within the sunshine all these planets are moving, all this vegetation, everything growing, coming. The whole thing is existing on the sunshine. Similarly, sarvaṁ khalv idaṁ brahma. Everything existing on brahma-jyotir. And in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, māyā tatam idaṁ sarvaṁ jagad avyakta-mūrtinā: "This impersonal exhibition of this whole manifestation, it is I." Mat-sthāni sarva-bhūtāni ([[Vanisource:BG 9.4 (1972)|BG 9.4]]) "Everything existing in Me." Nahaṁ teṣu avasthitaḥ. "But I am not there."

So we have to study everything intelligently. I want some intelligent persons from America. Then it will be done. It is not bluff. It is real science, authority. One has to understand simply. That's all. Therefore in the Caitanya-caritāmṛta it is said, kṛṣṇa yei bhaje sei baḍa catura. Unless one is very, very intelligent he cannot come to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. He must be very intelligent.

So if we find one or two intelligent person, ekaś candras tamo hanti na ca tārā . . . then one moon is sufficient to eradicate all darkness. There is no need of millions of stars. Kṛṣṇa consciousness is so beautiful. You call any intelligent person, we are prepared to convince him. Any intelligent. He must be little intelligent. That's all. We don't want . . .

Allen Ginsberg: Yes, but I'm not even convinced.

Prabhupāda: No.

Allen Ginsberg: I mean, everything you say is beautiful, but . . .

Prabhupāda: No. You are very intelligent boy. Why not you are intelligent? You are recognized poet, you are popular poet. Why you . . . I take you are intelligent. You are first-class intelligent. You are chanting.

Allen Ginsberg: But that's almost a physical body movement, the chanting, rather than a . . .

Prabhupāda: May be, but your intelligence is sufficient. That is . . . if that standard of intelligent men I get, that is my fortune. You see? Now, at least I request you, you try to understand this Kṛṣṇa consciousness philosophy. It is not sentiment. It is not bluffing. It is not a money-making business
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