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<h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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Suppose next time I become a tree. Then just see horrible position. Here is a tree. I am within this room, sitting so comfortably, and the tree is standing there. I can get that life also, karmaṇā, by my work. So this technology is unknown. And you are very much proud of advancement of knowledge. Boliye. Hmm? Am I right or wrong?.
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[[Vanisource:770109 - Conversation A - Bombay|770109 - Conversation A - Bombay]]
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Mr. Bajaj: . . . God's creation is so huge and vast and unfathomable. If they are able to unravel even a small part of it which was not known to human beings beforehand, so they are so proud. They don't say that they can do what God can do.

Prabhupāda: No, it is known. It is known. Kṛṣṇa says, mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūtaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 15.7 (1972)|BG 15.7]]): "This life is My part and parcel." As soon as you study what is this life, you understand Kṛṣṇa, quality, what is Kṛṣṇa. So here is the hint, that Kṛṣṇa said mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūtaḥ. So it is very small particle. That is also mentioned in the śāstra:

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:keśāgra-śata-bhāgasya
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The measurement of soul is given there in the śāstra: one ten-thousandth part of the tip of the hair. So everything is there. It is not matter. And that is instructed in the Bhagavad-gītā. Nāyaṁ śāstra . . . acchedyo 'yam adāhyo 'yam akledyo 'śoṣya eva ca ([[Vanisource:BG 2.24 (1972)|BG 2.24]]): "This spiritual spark cannot be cut into pieces." Acchedyo 'yam adāhyo 'yam: "It cannot be burned into the fire." So . . . (aside) Come on. So . . . but these rascals, they are seeing that, "The body is burnt into ashes, so everything is finished." And Kṛṣṇa says, adāhyo 'yam: "It cannot be burned." So it remains. And that transmigrates. And that small particle you have no eyes to see. You say, therefore, "Why shall I believe transmigration?" How nature's law is working so subtle way? Prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni guṇaiḥ karmāṇi sarvaśaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 3.27 (1972)|BG 3.27]]). But the ahaṅkāra-vimūḍhātmā. I say, rascal, not manufactured by me. Ahaṅkāra vimūḍha. Vimūḍha means a great rascal. Mūḍha means rascal, ass; and vi, viśeṣa, particularly, first-class ass, vimūḍha. Under false pride, he is thinking, "I am everything." Ahaṅkāra-vimūḍhātmā kartāham iti . . . ([[Vanisource:BG 3.27 (1972)|BG 3.27]]). "I can do anything by science, by this technology." That's all. Vimūḍhātmā, great rascals. And these great rascals, they are leading the world. Therefore people are in darkness. They have become leaders, the so-called scientists and educationists and political leaders. All set of rascals, and they have become leaders. Andhā yathāndhair upanīyamānāḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.31|SB 7.5.31]]). They are blind, and they are leading other blind men, so people are kept in darkness, and the opportunity of this human life is lost. By nature's way, by evolutionary process, we get this human form of life. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). Manuṣya, arthadam. Prahlāda Mahārāja says, durlabhaṁ mānuṣaṁ janma ([[Vanisource:SB 7.6.1|SB 7.6.1]]). Such life, important life, they are wasting like cats and dogs. So this is education; this is advancement. People are not given the opportunity to utilize this valuable life for understanding higher things. This is the plight of this civilization. They are growing like cats and dogs and dying like cats and dogs. And yathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]), and according to his work, he has to accept another body. That is nature's law. So in this life I am very big man, but by work, karmaṇā daiva netreṇa ([[Vanisource:SB 3.31.1|SB 3.31.1]]), by superior administration, I have to accept a body of dog. Then what is the value of your being great now? That technology is unknown, although it is stated there in the Bhagavad-gītā. Everything is. Tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]). So Kṛṣṇa never says that, "You'll get such and such body." Dehāntara: "You'll have to change the body." Now, suppose . . . there are 8,400,000 different types of bodies. Suppose next time I become a tree. Then just see horrible position. Here is a tree. I am within this room, sitting so comfortably, and the tree is standing there. I can get that life also, karmaṇā, by my work. So this technology is unknown. And you are very much proud of advancement of knowledge. Boliye. Hmm? Am I right or wrong?

Mr. Bajaj: I don't know. I've never given very serious thought or consideration, and . . .

Prabhupāda: Well, these are not the subject matter for serious thought? Do you think? You are under the grip of the laws of material nature. Do you admit or not?

Mr. Bajaj: Yes.

Prabhupāda: Then why you should be under the grip of material nature? And if there is way, why should you not take? Mām eva ye prapadyante māyām etaṁ taranti te ([[Vanisource:BG 7.14 (1972)|BG 7.14]]).

Mr. Bajaj: (indistinct) . . . This material covering over the soul has been present since time immemorial.

Prabhupāda: Analysis toh hai phir aap improvement ka kyun? Yehi toh baat hai na. Jo anadi se hai ye toh chalta hi hai. It is there since time immemorial, that's ok. But where is the improvement? Tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]). So why you are trying to get better position? That should be the endeavor, that we may get better position.
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