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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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<div class="heading">Either the seeker of the Brahman, either the seeker of the supreme soul, Supersoul, or the seeker of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, they are all transcendentalists. They are not in the material world. They are tattva-vit. Tattva-vit means they are in the field of transcendental transaction.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.24-34 -- New York, August 12, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.24-34 -- New York, August 12, 1966]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">
Devotee: . . . stated that exist between ''jñānīs'' and ''yogīs''.

Prabhupāda: Oh, the ''yogī'', they are searching after the Supersoul within himself, and ''jñānī'' is understanding the impersonal feature of the Absolute Truth.

Devotee: The ''jñānī'' is not . . . (indistinct) . . . seeker?

Prabhupāda: He is also seeker. You did not hear. The Absolute Truth is being manifested in three phases—as Paramātmā, as Bhagavān and as Brahman. Those who are after Brahman, they are called ''jñānī''; those who are after Paramātmā, they are called ''yogī''; and those who are after the Personality of Godhead, they are called ''bhaktas''. And all of them are seeking the Absolute Truth, but in different phases. You understand?

They are not differentiated. They are not in the material field. Either the seeker of the Brahman, either the seeker of the supreme soul, Supersoul, or the seeker of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, they are all transcendentalists. They are not in the material world. They are ''tattva-vit''. ''Tattva-vit'' means they are in the field of transcendental transaction. But there are degrees.

Just like I have given this example already—you did not hear attentively—that the sunshine, the sun disc, and within the sun. The subject matter is same, but still, the subject matter of studying sunshine and subject matter of studying the sun disc and subject matter of studying what is within the sun, there are differences, although the whole subject matter is the sun. The Absolute Truth is also, in the same way, manifested in three phases: Brahman, Paramātmā and Bhagavān. So either of these three, we have to find out; then gradually we make further promotion.

Those who are in the Brahman conception . . . just like Śukadeva Gosvāmī. He was in the Brahman conception, but by his further development, he became a devotee. He became a devotee. There are many instances. The Sanaka-Sanātana sages, they were in Brahman conception. So to . . . as it is stated in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'', that ''bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate'' ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). This ''mām'' means the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So anyone who comes to that Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is in the highest perfection of knowledge.</p>
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<div class="heading">Either the Brahmavādī or Paramātmavādī or the bhakta, they are all tattva-vit. They are all transcendentalists. There is no difference. But as there are three classes in every sphere, so there are three classes in the transcendental field also.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.24-34 -- New York, August 12, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.24-34 -- New York, August 12, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">
Now, if you have to acquire knowledge, then first of all, you have to find out a person who has already seen the light. ''Tattva-darśinaḥ''. ''Tattva'' . . . ''tattva ''means . . . in the ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'', ''tattva'' is described, the English translation is "Absolute Truth." That is called ''tattva''. Now:

:''vadanti tat tattva-vidas''
:''tattvaṁ yaj jñānam advayam''
:''brahmeti paramātmeti''
:''bhagavān iti śabdyate''
:([[Vanisource:SB 1.2.11|SB 1.2.11]])

Now, "That Absolute Truth is known in three different phases." What is that? "Brahman, Paramātmā and Bhagavān." So a person, we have to . . . if we really seeking knowledge, then we have to find out a person who is ''tattva-darśī'', who has understood the Absolute Truth.

Now, the Absolute Truth is realized in three phases: Brahman, Paramātmā and Bhagavān. There are certain ''tattva-vit'', or the knower of the Absolute Truth, who understands the Absolute Truth as impersonal Brahman. And there are other, knower of the Absolute Truth, who understands the Absolute Truth as the localized Supersoul. These are called ''yogīs''. And the first-mentioned persons, they are called ''jñānīs''. And there are other ''tattva-vit'', or knower of the Absolute Truth, who knows the Absolute Truth as Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

So either Brahman or Paramātmā or Kṛṣṇa the Supreme Personality of . . . there is no difference. The same thing, but according to the capacity of the knower, they are manifested into different phases. We have several times discussed this point. Just like to understand the sun, somebody is studying the sun ray. He is also studying sun.

And somebody is studying what is the sun disc. So he is also studying sun. And somebody is trying to enter into the sun planet to see who is there. Everything is the sun. But the person who are studying the sunshine, their grade is lower than the person who is trying to understand the sun disc. And their position is lower grade than the person who wants to enter into the sun.

So the ''bhaktas'', they are trying to see the sun-god within the sun. Just like they want to see Kṛṣṇa. In the ''Upaniṣad'' we'll find . . . there is a prayer that the Brahman is praying, "Will You kindly push off Your glaring, dazzling glare, so that I can really see You." So within the ''brahma-jyoti'' there is Kṛṣṇa. So we have to see that.
 
So anyway, either the Brahmavādī or Paramātmavādī or the ''bhakta'', they are all ''tattva-vit''. They are all transcendentalists. There is no difference. But as there are three classes in every sphere, so there are three classes in the transcendental field also. So here ''Bhagavad-gītā'', the Lord recommends that ''jñāninas tattva-darśinaḥ'' ([[Vanisource:BG 4.34 (1972)|BG 4.34]]).

You have to find out a person who is ''tattva-darśī'', who has realized the Absolute Truth, either in Brahman conception or in Paramātmā conception or in Personality of Godhead conception. Because we have got different taste. So the Paramātmā, or the Supreme Absolute Truth, is also manifested in three phases: Brahman, Paramātmā, Bhagavān.

So anyway, either you select the impersonal Brahman conception of the Absolute Truth, either you select the localized Supreme Soul, Supersoul conception of the Absolute Truth, or you accept the highest, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Śrī Kṛṣṇa. ''Mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat kiñcid asti dhanañjaya'' ([[Vanisource:BG 7.7 (1972)|BG 7.7]]). The Lord says that "This is the last phase of Absolute Truth, what I am, Kṛṣṇa."</p>
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