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[[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]]
[[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1975]]
[[Category:Questions On... Modern Science and Scientists]]
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div class="heading">What is that good thing, first of all say... But have they stopped disease?... Now, no "but." First of all, they have got medicine for making money, but have they stopped disease?... "To some extent," that is another bluff. That is another bluff. "To future," "some extent." Why some extent? Stop it.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- October 25, 1975, Mauritius|Morning Walk -- October 25, 1975, Mauritius]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: ...telling me that fifty thousand people died by motor accident?</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: I was telling you that. In America they used to have...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: One city is finished.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: Fifty thousand?</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Each year.</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: It used to be ten thousand.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Oh, fifty thousand. That was years ago even.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So this is the advancement. Every year one city is finished. This is the advancement.</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: They were making one joke that on the independence day of America everyone goes out in their car and celebrates. They were making a joke that more people will die by the celebration than died in the original battle of getting the independence. (laughter)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Just see their intelligence. Andha yathāndhair upaniyamanas te 'pisa-tantryam uru-damni baddhaḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.31|SB 7.5.31]]). By nature's law they are bound up hands and legs, and still, they are trying to do something independently. That is their fault.</p>
<p>Indian man: Don't you think that the scientists have done good things but people have...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What is that good thing, first of all say.</p>
<p>Indian man: For example, they have invented medicines like the...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But have they stopped disease?</p>
<p>Indian man: But...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Now, no "but." First of all, they have got medicine for making money, but have they stopped disease?</p>
<p>Indian man: To some extent.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: "To some extent," that is another bluff. That is another bluff. "To future," "some extent." Why some extent? Stop it.</p>
<p>Indian man: There were many people dying in Africa.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Everyone is dying. How you will live?</p>
<p>Indian man: Malaria...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. Will you live forever?</p>
<p>Indian man: No, sir.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then why do you speak that many are living? You cannot live. That is nature's law. You must die-today or tomorrow. It doesn't matter.</p>
<p>Indian man: They died before time comes. People die before time if there is no...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: At the present moment they are not dying?</p>
<p>Indian man: Not... They should... There have been more deaths than...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So more or less, they are dying. Can you stop it? This is all bluffing, and fools are bewildered by these, all these propositions. You have to die today or tomorrow. Can you stop your death?</p>
<p>Indian man: No.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then what is the benefit of this? And pay the scientists money for bluffing. You'll die today or tomorrow. It doesn't matter. Why you are anxious? After all, we have to die. Just like we are in a friend's place. We have to vacate it. And if two days' advance, "All right, you can remain two days," that means I have got the proprietorship of the house? It is all nonsense. You have to die. Stop this death; then there is credit. If I become proprietor of the house, there is credit. And if I am living for four days, if they give concession, "All right, you can live two days more," is that very great benefit? I'll have to leave it. Similarly, you will have to die today or tomorrow. It doesn't matter.</p>
<p>Indian man: But the Jains(?) can stop this death...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Nobody is... Rascals and fools will that: "I'll not die. Tomorrow I shall die. (laughter) Tomorrow." This is rascal. These things will be done by the rascals. "I'll not die today. I'll die tomorrow." This is rascaldom.</p>
<p>Indian man: About religion, Swamijī. Religion is capable to stop death?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Here the... Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti ([[Vanisource:BG 4.9 (1972)|BG 4.9]]). That is our proposal, to go back to home, back to Godhead. No more death.</p>
<p>Indian man: After death no death?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No death.</p>
<p>Indian man: Okay, then, Swamijī, we should...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: "After death" means we have got this body; we'll have to leave it. That is certain. But after leaving this body, you are not going to get another body which will die. This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. If they can manufacture some medicine that "You have suffered from diseases. Now you take this medicine—no more disease," then there is credit, no more disease. But there is no guarantee.</p>
<p>Indian man: One kind of disease.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: One kind or another kind, disease is disease. Disease is disease. It is foolish for the person to think, "If I would have gotten that disease, it was better for me." This is foolish, another foolishness. Disease is disease. Disease means suffering. You have to suffer, that's all, this disease or that disease.</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: The man who owns this house, his wife died recently from cancer. He sent her to London for special treatment, very costly, and they could not do anything.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh. Just see. Where is this? That is their science? Take money and do nothing.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: At least in the past when there was disease people would depend on God more. Now they depend on the doctors.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, still they have to depend on God. Otherwise this man spent so much money. God denied, "No, your wife will not stay," and she had to die.</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: (break) ...when she went to London for treatment she became worse.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Just like vitamin pill—no hand.</p>
<p>Cyavana: Yes. No arms.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Simply they are cheating. There was one gentleman, English gentleman, Sir William Temple. He used to say, "I wish to die without a doctor. Don't bring doctor."</p>
<p>Cyavana: Without a doctor.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. "Let me die peacefully. Don't bring doctor." I say also. Don't bring doctor when I am diseased. What is this?</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: (break) There's a chair if you would like to sit out here in the sun.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. It is not so cold. Jaya. (end)</p>
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