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[[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]]
[[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1976]]
[[Category:Questions On... God Realization, Self Realization, Enlightenment]]
[[Category:Questions On... Devotees - General]]
[[Category:Questions On... Process of Krsna Consciousness - Bhakti-yoga]]
[[Category:Questions On... Seva - Devotional Service]]
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div class="heading">Yes. That is next. First of all, that "I am not this body." That is Brahman realization.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 14, 1976, Detroit|Morning Walk -- June 14, 1976, Detroit]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hari-śauri: This is in connection with the churning of the ocean?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. (break)</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Is it actually possible for the demons to win?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Sometimes. When there is fighting, both the parties will have chance to win. What is this? (break)</p>
<p>Devotee (1): ...degraded activity in the public parks. Fighting and intoxications and all kinds of nonsense. Just like animals. (break)</p>
<p>Devotee (2): And there were so many people that we decided that next weekend we'll come and distribute magazines and incense.</p>
<p>Makhanlāl: In the Bhagavad-gītā, Eighteenth Chapter, 54th verse, brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā ([[Vanisource:BG 18.54 (1972)|BG 18.54]]), it says that the person in brahma-bhūtaḥ realization at once realizes the Supreme Brahman. If the devotee is situated on the platform of the brahma-bhūtaḥ, but he may not necessarily see everything as Brahman, does that mean that his realization is by intelligence, and by his activity, or what does that mean?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Realization of spiritual identification.</p>
<p>Makhanlāl: Realization of spiritual life?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Identity.</p>
<p>Makhanlāl: Identity? (break) Brahman realization for the devotee in the beginning is just that he realizes his constitutional position as servant of Kṛṣṇa?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. That is next. First of all, that "I am not this body." That is Brahman realization.</p>
<p>Makhanlāl: So we may only be partially situated in that realization in our present level of devotional service.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: You realize or not realize, if you remain on the platform, that is same. (break) ...in Kṛṣṇa's service, that is brahma-bhūtaḥ stage. (break)</p>
<p>Makhanlāl: ...says that such a person never laments nor desires anything. So...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. If you realize that you are servant of Kṛṣṇa, where is lamentation?</p>
<p>Makhanlāl: Due to māyā's influence, a devotee may sometimes materially lament.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That you have to struggle. Tapasā brahmacāryeṇa ([[Vanisource:SB 6.1.13-14|SB 6.1.13]]). That is called tapasya. But if you stick to devotional service, māyā will not be able to touch you.</p>
<p>Makhanlāl: The māyā that harasses the devotee is just mental concoction, then? He should concentrate on just serving?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Māyā's harassing, that means you are not in devotional service. It is not concoction; it is fact.</p>
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