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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:BG 16.11-12 (1972)|BG 16.11-12, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">They believe that to gratify the senses is the prime necessity of human civilization. Thus until the end of life their anxiety is immeasurable. Bound by a network of hundreds of thousands of desires and absorbed in lust and anger, they secure money by illegal means for sense gratification.</p>
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<div class="purport text"><p>The demoniac accept that the enjoyment of the senses is the ultimate goal of life, and this concept they maintain until death. They do not believe in life after death, and they do not believe that one takes on different types of bodies according to one's karma, or activities in this world. Their plans for life are never finished, and they go on preparing plan after plan, all of which are never finished. We have personal experience of a person of such demoniac mentality who, even at the point of death, was requesting the physician to prolong his life for four years more because his plans were not yet complete. Such foolish people do not know that a physician cannot prolong life even for a moment. When the notice is there, there is no consideration of the man's desire. The laws of nature do not allow a second beyond what one is destined to enjoy.</p>
<p>The demoniac person, who has no faith in God or the Supersoul within himself, performs all kinds of sinful activities simply for sense gratification. He does not know that there is a witness sitting within his heart. The Supersoul is observing the activities of the individual soul. As it is stated in the Upaniṣads, there are two birds sitting in one tree; one is acting and enjoying or suffering the fruits of the branches, and the other is witnessing. But one who is demoniac has no knowledge of Vedic scripture, nor has he any faith; therefore he feels free to do anything for sense enjoyment, regardless of the consequences.</p>
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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2>
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonBG161112HawaiiFebruary71975_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="400" link="Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Nitāi: "They believe that to gratify the senses unto the end of life is the prime necessity of human civilization. Thus there is no end to their anxiety. Being bound by hundreds and thousands of desires, by lust and anger, they secure money by illegal means for sense gratification."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda:</p>
:cintām aparimeyāṁ ca
:pralayāntām upāśritāḥ
:kāmopabhoga-paramā
:etāvad iti niścitāḥ
:āśā-pāśa-śatair baddhāḥ
:kāma-krodha-parāyaṇāḥ
:īhante kāma-bhogārtham
:anyāyenārtha-sañcayān
<p>So sometimes people say, the modern age... Modern age and past time or future, past, present and future, the real principles of life, they are the same. It does not change. Millions of years ago, the past and present and future as they were, at the present moment also, the same past present and future are there. So there is no question of modern age or past age, the nature's law is the same. Millions of years ago the sun was rising early in the morning, and it is rising early in the morning at present moment. There is no change. Millions of years ago all living entities were interested in eating, sleeping, mating and defending; the same thing is going on. There is no change.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG161112HawaiiFebruary71975_1" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="400" link="Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So Kṛṣṇa spoke all these words five thousand years ago. Apart from taking account of millions of years, because nature's law is the same, so even in those days, five thousand years ago, you'll find the demonic people as they are now. These words about the demons... There were demons like Rāvaṇa and Hiraṇyakaśipu, Kaṁsa. So many demons there were, historical demons. But their process of life was the same as the modern demons. There is no change. Therefore śāstra means it is for all the time, not that śāstra was meant in the past for something else, and now something else. That is not the fact. That is, means, śāstra, that it does not change. The time, place and atmosphere, according to that, everything is the same.</p>
<p>Now, formerly... It is said, anyāyenārtha-sañcayān, to secure money by black market, anyāyena. Nyāya means legal and anyāya means illegal. So anyāyenārtha-sañcayān, the practice was there also at that time. It may be small scale, but the same thing is going on at the present moment which is known as black market. Black market means anyāyenārtha-sañcayān, getting money by unfair means. That is called anyāyena artha-sañcayān. Anyāya means illegal; nyāya means legal. So these demons who are very much eager to accumulate money by black market, they are cintām aparimeyām, immeasurable anxiety. Anything you do in the material world, there will be cintā, anxiety.</p>
<p>Just like in our, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, the movement, all the activities, they are not material. They're all spiritual. But still, because it is being enacted in the material world, we have also so much anxiety because we are in the material world, although that anxiety also bhakti. That is nothing else. That is not material. When we are anxious how to protect a property, how to push on this movement, how people will take it, what line of action we shall take, this is also anxiety, but that anxiety is for Kṛṣṇa. Therefore it is bhakti.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG161112HawaiiFebruary71975_2" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="400" link="Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Even in Vṛndāvana there is anxiety. Rādhārāṇī is in anxiety that "Kṛṣṇa is not here. How Kṛṣṇa will come?" The gopīs are also in anxiety. Gopīs are so in anxiety that about them it is said that when Kṛṣṇa used to go to the forest for tending the cows, so gopīs were thinking at home that "Kṛṣṇa's feet is so soft that we hesitate to take his feet on our breast, but He is now walking in the forest, and there were so many stones and pricks, and they are giving pain to the Kṛṣṇa's lotus feet." And thinking like this, they fainted. This is gopī. Kṛṣṇa is out of the village, and they are at home, and they are thinking of Kṛṣṇa, and they fainted. This is also anxiety, so much anxiety they fainted, but that is for Kṛṣṇa.</p>
<p>Therefore gopīs are exalted. Ramya kecid upāsanā vraja-vadhu-varga vīrya kalpita. Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu He recommends, "There is no better type of worshiping Kṛṣṇa than it was planned by the gopīs." So there is also anxiety. So anxiety is spiritual anxiety and material anxiety. Spiritual anxiety means you are advancing in spiritual life, and material anxiety means you are going downhill. So cintām aparimeyāṁ ca.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG161112HawaiiFebruary71975_3" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="400" link="Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">But we are speaking of the demons, materialistic persons. Demon means materialistic person, who are simply busy for these temporary bodily comforts. They do not know anything else. The body is material. Therefore all these activities for comforts of the body... That is demon, more or less. So cintā... the demons, they are anxiety. Everyone has anxiety, but their anxiety, aparimeyām. Just like ordinary man he has got some anxiety: "How to maintain my family? How to get some money to maintain family?" like that. But the demons, they are unmeasurable, unlimited. You'll find big, big businessmen. They have got very, very long project, "How to do this? How to do this? How to increase this factory? How to make it world-renowned?" and so on, so on, so on. There is no limit of anxiety. Cintām aparimeyāṁ ca. Unlimited means they have no idea of future life, they do not believe, mostly, at the present moment. Formerly they used to believe, even these asuras.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG161112HawaiiFebruary71975_4" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="400" link="Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So human life is also meant for like that, simply for eating, sleeping, mating and defending? But the modern civilization has gone down so low that they are very much anxious. Therefore it is said, cintām aparimeyāṁ ca—"How to arrange for eating? How to arrange for sleeping? Not only for me, but for my son, for my grandson, for my great-grandson..." Cintām aparimeyām. Then why you are so much in anxiety? Who is your son? Who is your grandson or great-grandson? We... By chance, we have come together, and after death, like football, it will be shooted to somewhere we do not know. Who can say, "My father is there" or "My grandfather is there"? It is the example given: just like some straw. They mix together in the waves, and again by the waves they are thrown here and there, no more assembling. So the material life is that.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG161112HawaiiFebruary71975_5" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="400" link="Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You cannot avoid these laws of material nature. This is called māyā. Actually we are busy with something which is not permanent, a temporary arrangement by the laws of nature. Therefore those who are too much full of anxiety for all these things, they are called demons. Cintām aparimeyāṁ ca. Your cintām will not act. You may think for the safety or satisfaction, but that does not mean we should neglect our duty. But as far as possible, we should be detached. It is not that because all these are temporary arrangement, we should be unfaithful to our family members, to our children, to our wife. As duty, we should take care, but we should not be simply absorbed in such thoughts. Our other business is how to become fit for going back to home, back to Godhead. That is our real business. This is temporary business because we have got some bodily relation, so as duty...</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG161112HawaiiFebruary71975_6" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="400" link="Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.11-12 -- Hawaii, February 7, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So anyway, cintām aparimeyāṁ ca, that should be transferred to kṛṣṇa-cintā. Satataṁ kīrtayanto māṁ yatantaś ca dṛḍha-vratāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 9.14 (1972)|BG 9.14]]). If you always be busy in glorifying or chanting the holy name of the Lord, then your cintā, anxiety, is transferred. By same cintā... Cintā will go on; you cannot stop it. Mind you cannot stop thinking even for a moment. Either you shall think of this material life or you shall think of Kṛṣṇa. So the Kṛṣṇa consciousness means instead of thinking of this material life, you think of Kṛṣṇa. Thinking is not to be stopped. That is not possible. You cannot stop thinking even for a moment. Simply you have to practice. Instead of thinking these material things, you think of Kṛṣṇa. That is wanted.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG161315HawaiiFebruary81975_7" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="401" link="Lecture on BG 16.13-15 -- Hawaii, February 8, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.13-15 -- Hawaii, February 8, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.13-15 -- Hawaii, February 8, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.13-15 -- Hawaii, February 8, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So last night we discussed about the demons' thinking. Āśā-pāśa-śatair baddhāḥ. He does not know "So long I shall be aspiring more and more, I am getting entangled more and more within this material world. Because Kṛṣṇa is so kind, he has given me freedom to enjoy this material world, but according to my work, I am becoming implicated. So long I'll have a pinch of desire for enjoying this material world, I'll have to accept a typical body." This is the law of nature. When you'll actually be free from all material desires, then it is called mukti, mukti, liberation. That is liberation. So that standard of mukti, mukti standard or mukti platform, is bhakti-yoga.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG161315HawaiiFebruary81975_8" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="401" link="Lecture on BG 16.13-15 -- Hawaii, February 8, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.13-15 -- Hawaii, February 8, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.13-15 -- Hawaii, February 8, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.13-15 -- Hawaii, February 8, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Sarvopādhi-vinirmuktaṁ tat-paratvena nirmalam ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 19.170|CC Madhya 19.170]]). Nirmala means without any dirt, cleansed completely, crystal clear. That is required. The senses will be there, the mind will be there, the intelligence will be there, I'll be there—everything will be there, but we have to cleanse the desire, purify the desires. Āśā-pāśa-śatair baddhāḥ. Here, the demons, they're also desiring, but baddhāḥ: they are becoming conditioned. But a devotee, he's also desiring, but he's mukta, means liberated. Therefore in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, yajñārthe karmaṇo 'nyatra, karma-bandhanaḥ: "You work for performing sacrifice, performing sacrifice." Sacrifice, yajña... Yajña means to satisfy the Supreme. That is sacrifice. I sacrifice my own convenience. I take all kinds of troubles... There is no trouble. It is pleasure, just like the mother takes all kinds of trouble for the little child, but she does not think that is trouble. That is pleasure. When you do something out of love, that is pleasure. That is not trouble.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG161315HawaiiFebruary81975_9" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="401" link="Lecture on BG 16.13-15 -- Hawaii, February 8, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.13-15 -- Hawaii, February 8, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.13-15 -- Hawaii, February 8, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.13-15 -- Hawaii, February 8, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So the Māyāvādī philosophers, they cannot understand. They are thinking that "Why these people are taking so much trouble, dancing jumping?" They cannot under... Therefore they feel displeasure. They feel disturbance because they are not purified. So āśā-pāśa-śatair baddhāḥ. The demonic principle is to become bound up by their desires, but if you are on the spiritual platform, then all your desires means loving service to the Lord. That is wanted. So the demons' desires is described here. There is nothing to be explained. We have got practical experience in the material world. They are always thinking, idam adya mayā labdham: "Now, today I have earned five hundred dollars" or something more or less. Mayā labdham means "I have got it." Imaṁ prāpsye manoratham: "Again I shall get tomorrow so much money, and my bank balance will increase to such and such strength." Idam asti: "I got so much, and so much will be added, and the balance will increase." Idaṁ me bhaviṣyati punar dhanam: "In this way I will increase the amount of my wealth more and more."</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG161315HawaiiFebruary81975_10" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="401" link="Lecture on BG 16.13-15 -- Hawaii, February 8, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.13-15 -- Hawaii, February 8, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.13-15 -- Hawaii, February 8, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.13-15 -- Hawaii, February 8, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So Caitanya Mahāprabhu said that na dhanaṁ na janaṁ na kavitāṁ vā jagadīśa kāmaye. These are the bhakti path. The demon is thinking, "I have got so much money. I have got so many friends, and so many relatives, so many family members." Caitanya Mahāprabhu is denying that na dhanaṁ na janaṁ na sundarīṁ kavitāṁ vā jagadīśa kāmaye (Cc. Antya 20.29, Śikṣāṣṭaka 4), just the opposite: "I don't want any material friends or followers, neither I want money. Simply I want to serve You. Simply I want to serve You." So in these three verses everything is... Word meanings are there. So these are the demonic propensities, and the very thing can be changed into devotional service, and then we become devotee or demigod. So I am going tomorrow. So here you shall try to become devotee, not to think like demons. That will not help us. Then āśā-pāśa-śatair baddhāḥ. We'll remain bound up in material bondage. You cannot stop desires. That is not possible, but purify the desire. Purify the desire. Purify desire means that the same hopes, hope against hope, just to improve your position as devotee... That will help you to make your life successful. Thank you very much.</p>
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonSB7615NewVrindabanJune291976_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="769" link="Lecture on SB 7.6.15 -- New Vrindaban, June 29, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.6.15 -- New Vrindaban, June 29, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.6.15 -- New Vrindaban, June 29, 1976|Lecture on SB 7.6.15 -- New Vrindaban, June 29, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So aśānta-kāmo harate kuṭumbī. This family attachment is so strong that a person who is not satiated, he simply gathers money. On one side, they do not believe in the next life, and if you ask him that "Why you are gathering so much money?" he'll say that "My grandson will enjoy it." They say like that. But if you don't believe in the transmigration of the soul, then who is coming to be your grandson and son you are accumulating money? So there is no logic, there is no argument. But people do so. Anyāyenartha-sañcayan. Anyāyena, it is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā that is demonic principle. So a gṛhastha, of course, required to accumulate some money because he's living with family, but so far brahmacārī, vānaprastha and sannyāsī is concerned, they should not keep any money.</p>
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<div id="Sri_Isopanisad_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Lectures" text="Sri Isopanisad Lectures"><h3>Sri Isopanisad Lectures</h3>
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<div id="SriIsopanisadInvocationLectureLosAngelesApril281970_0" class="quote" parent="Sri_Isopanisad_Lectures" book="Lec" index="2" link="Sri Isopanisad Invocation Lecture -- Los Angeles, April 28, 1970" link_text="Sri Isopanisad Invocation Lecture -- Los Angeles, April 28, 1970">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Sri Isopanisad Invocation Lecture -- Los Angeles, April 28, 1970|Sri Isopanisad Invocation Lecture -- Los Angeles, April 28, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">An atom, a small particle, small ant, so it has got a relative life, you have got relative life. Similarly this gigantic body, it may be many millions of years this universe will exist, but it will not exist forever. That is a fact. Because it is very gigantic, therefore it may remain for some millions of years, but it will end. That is the law of nature. And when that time is complete, this temporary manifestation will be annihilated by the complete arrangement of the complete, the supreme complete. When your time will be complete, no more, sir, in this body. Nobody can check. The arrangement is so strong. You cannot say, "Let me remain." Actually it happens. When I was in India, Allahabad, one of our, an old friend, he was very rich man. So he was dying. So he was requesting the doctor, "Can you not give me at least four years to live? I have got some plan, you see. I could not finish it." You see. Āśā-pāśa-śatair baddhāḥ. This is demonic. Everyone thinks that "Oh, I have to do this. I have to do this." No. The doctors or doctors' fathers or his father, no scientist can check. "Oh, no, sir. No four years. Not even four minutes. You have to go immediately." This is the law. So before that moment comes, one should be very dexterous to realize Kṛṣṇa conscious. Tūrṇam yateta. Tūrṇam means very swiftly, very quickly you should realize Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Anu... Next, before the death, next death comes, you must finish your business. That is intelligence. Otherwise defeat.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Devotees -- July 2, 1974, Melbourne|Room Conversation with Devotees -- July 2, 1974, Melbourne]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: The big two wars of the world happened only on account of this industry. Do you know that? The cause is the big, big industry. Germany industrial, they produce goods. They must have market. But when they go to sell, there is no market. Britishers will not allow to sell them. The Britisher will take, purchase from them, and stamp it "Made in England" and sell it. And this is the cause of two big war. Therefore German declare twice war. Disaster. Therefore it is said, jagata ahitāya. Then? Go on.</p>
<p>Cāru: Purport?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, the other śloka.</p>
<p>Cāru: Other śloka.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Cāru:</p>
:cintām aparimeyāṁ ca
:pralayāntām upāśritāḥ
:kāmopabhoga-paramā
:etāvad iti niścitāḥ
<p>Prabhupāda: Translation?</p>
<p>Cāru: There is one more verse.</p>
:āśā-pāśa-śatair baddhāḥ
:kāma-krodha-parāyaṇāḥ
:īhante kāma-bhogārtham
:anyāyenārtha-sañcayān
:(Bg. 16.11-12)
<p>"They believe that to gratify the senses unto the end of life is the prime necessity of human civilization. Thus there is no end to their anxiety. Being bound by hundreds and thousands of desires, by lust and anger, they secure money by illegal means for sense gratification."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then? Next.</p>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="GardenDiscussiononBhagavadgitaSixteenthChapterJune261976NewVrindaban_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="162" link="Garden Discussion on Bhagavad-gita Sixteenth Chapter -- June 26, 1976, New Vrindaban" link_text="Garden Discussion on Bhagavad-gita Sixteenth Chapter -- June 26, 1976, New Vrindaban">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Garden Discussion on Bhagavad-gita Sixteenth Chapter -- June 26, 1976, New Vrindaban|Garden Discussion on Bhagavad-gita Sixteenth Chapter -- June 26, 1976, New Vrindaban]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura's song is there, para-duḥkhe sukhi. That is natural. Go on.</p>
<p>Dhṛṣṭadyumna:</p>
:cintām aparimeyāṁ ca
:pralayāntām upāśritāḥ
:kāmopabhoga-paramā
:etāvad iti niścitāḥ
:āśā-pāśa-śatair baddhāḥ
:kāma-krodha-parāyaṇāḥ
:īhante kāma-bhogārtham
:anyāyenārtha-sañcayān
<p>"They believe that to gratify the senses unto the end of life is the prime necessity of human civilization. Thus there is no end to their anxiety. Being bound by hundreds and thousands of desires, by lust and anger, they secure money by illegal means for sense gratification."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Illegal.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Illegal means.</p>
<p>Dhṛṣṭadyumna: Purport. "The demoniac accept that the enjoyment of the senses is the ultimate goal of life, and this concept they maintain until death. They do not believe in life after death, and they do not believe that one takes on different types of bodies according to one's karma, or activities in this world. Their plans for life are never finished, and they go on preparing plan after plan, all of which are never finished. We have personal experience of a person of such demoniac mentality, who, even at the point of death, was requesting the physician to prolong his life for four years more because his plans were not yet complete. Such foolish people do not know that a physician cannot prolong life even for a moment. When the notice is there, there is no consideration of the man's desire. The laws of nature do not allow a second beyond what one is destined to enjoy. The demoniac person, who has no faith in God or the Supersoul within himself, performs all kinds of sinful activities simply for sense gratification. He does not know that there is a witness sitting within his heart. The Supersoul is observing the activities of the individual soul. As it is stated in the Vedic literature, the Upaniṣads, there are two birds sitting in one tree; the one is acting and enjoying or suffering the fruits of the branches, and the other is witnessing. But one who is demoniac has no knowledge of Vedic scripture, nor has he any faith; therefore he feels free to do anything for sense enjoyment, regardless of the consequences."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Now discuss any points.</p>
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationJanuary191977Bhuvanesvara_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="32" link="Room Conversation -- January 19, 1977, Bhuvanesvara" link_text="Room Conversation -- January 19, 1977, Bhuvanesvara">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 19, 1977, Bhuvanesvara|Room Conversation -- January 19, 1977, Bhuvanesvara]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: "Will," everything "will." (chuckles) Never practical. Such a rascal, they are going on as scientists. Everything in future. "Trust no future, however pleasant." And they are depending everything on future. "Yes, we are trying. We shall do it within millions of years." And people believe that. </p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: Because there's no God, so this is the only hope-science. The only hope for immortality is science. That's what people think.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But that is bogus.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: That means people want to believe in immortality. They want eternal life.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. That is factual. Nobody wants to die. Even on death bed, one thinks, "If something could have been done for my saving..." One gentleman in Allahabad, he was our friend. So he was dying at the age of fifty-four. So he was requesting the doctors, "Can you not prolong my life for four years more? Then I could finish my scheme." Such a madman. What is nonsense scheme? Āśā-pāśa-śatair baddhāḥ kāma... Find out this, āśā-pāśa-śatair baddhaḥ.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri:</p>
:āśā-pāśa-śatair baddhaḥ
:kāma-krodha-parāyaṇāḥ
:īhante kāma-bhogārtham
:anyāyenārtha-sañcayān
<p>Prabhupāda: Anyāyenārtha-sañcayān.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: "They believe that to gratify the senses unto the end of life is the prime necessity of human civilization. Thus there is no end to their anxiety. Being bound by hundreds and thousands of desires, by lust and anger, they secure money by illegal means for sense gratification."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Is there any purport?</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: "The demoniac accept that the enjoyment of the senses is the ultimate goal of life, and this concept they maintain until death. They do not believe in life after death, and they do not believe that one takes on different types of bodies according to one's karma, or activities in this world. Their plans for life are never finished, and they go on preparing plan after plan, all of which are never finished. We have personal experience of a person of such demoniac mentality..."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: I am talking of that man. (laughter)</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationFebruary181977Mayapura_1" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="91" link="Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura" link_text="Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hari-śauri:</p>
:kāmam āśritya duṣpūraṁ
:dambha-māna-madānvitāḥ
:mohād gṛhītvāsad-grāhān
:pravartante 'śuci-vratāḥ
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<p>"The demoniac, taking shelter of insatiable lust, pride and false prestige, and being thus illusioned, are always sworn to unclean work, attracted by the impermanent."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then?</p>
<p>Hari-śauri:</p>
:cintām aparimeyāṁ ca
:pralayāntām upāśritāḥ
:kāmopabhoga-paramā
:etāvad iti niścitāḥ
:āśā-pāśa-śatair baddhāḥ
:kāma-krodha-parāyaṇāḥ
:īhante kāma-bhogārtham
:anyāyenārtha-sañcayān
<p>"They believe that to gratify the senses unto the end of life is the prime necessity of human civilization. Thus there is no end to their anxiety. Being bound by hundreds and thousands of desires, by lust and anger, they secure money by illegal means for sense gratification."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm. Leave it, this.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: If this gets read in the court, they'll really...</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This is perfect for the court. And the purports are very strong.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: There is purport?</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: To all of those, yes. Long purports. Should I read all the purports?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm.</p>
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