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{{terms|"Neither cleanliness nor proper behavior nor truth is found in them"|"Those who are demoniac do not know what is to be done and what is not to be done"|"jana na vidur asurah"|"na satyam tesu vidyate"|"na saucam napi cacarah"|"na saucam napi cacaro"|"pravrttim ca nivrttim ca"}}
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[[Category:Bhagavad-gita Ch.13-18 - Cited Verses]]
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is" class="section" sec_index="0" parent="compilation" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is"><h2>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</h2>
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<div id="BG_Chapters_13_-_18" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is" text="BG Chapters 13 - 18"><h3>BG Chapters 13 - 18</h3>
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<div id="BG167_0" class="quote" parent="BG_Chapters_13_-_18" book="BG" index="76" link="BG 16.7" link_text="BG 16.7">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Those who are demoniac do not know what is to be done and what is not to be done. Neither cleanliness nor proper behavior nor truth is found in them.</p>
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<div class="purport text"><p>In every civilized human society there is some set of scriptural rules and regulations which is followed from the beginning. Especially among the Āryans, those who adopt the Vedic civilization and who are known as the most advanced civilized peoples, those who do not follow the scriptural injunctions are supposed to be demons. Therefore it is stated here that the demons do not know the scriptural rules, nor do they have any inclination to follow them. Most of them do not know them, and even if some of them know, they have not the tendency to follow them. They have no faith, nor are they willing to act in terms of the Vedic injunctions. The demons are not clean, either externally or internally. One should always be careful to keep his body clean by bathing, brushing teeth, shaving, changing clothes, etc. As far as internal cleanliness is concerned, one should always remember the holy names of God and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare. The demons neither like nor follow all these rules for external and internal cleanliness.</p>
<p>As for behavior, there are many rules and regulations guiding human behavior, such as the Manu-saṁhitā, which is the law of the human race. Even up to today, those who are Hindu follow the Manu-saṁhitā. Laws of inheritance and other legalities are derived from this book. Now, in the Manu-saṁhitā it is clearly stated that a woman should not be given freedom. That does not mean that women are to be kept as slaves, but they are like children. Children are not given freedom, but that does not mean that they are kept as slaves. The demons have now neglected such injunctions, and they think that women should be given as much freedom as men. However, this has not improved the social condition of the world. Actually, a woman should be given protection at every stage of life. She should be given protection by the father in her younger days, by the husband in her youth, and by the grown-up sons in her old age. This is proper social behavior according to the Manu-saṁhitā. But modern education has artificially devised a puffed—up concept of womanly life, and therefore marriage is practically now an imagination in human society. The social condition of women is thus not very good now, although those who are married are in a better condition than those who are proclaiming their so-called freedom. The demons, therefore, do not accept any instruction which is good for society, and because they do not follow the experience of great sages and the rules and regulations laid down by the sages, the social condition of the demoniac people is very miserable.</p>
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam" class="section" sec_index="1" parent="compilation" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam"><h2>Srimad-Bhagavatam</h2>
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<div id="SB_Canto_4" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 4"><h3>SB Canto 4</h3>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 4.24.41|SB 4.24.41, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The Supreme Personality of Godhead causes the asuras to forget Him and the devotees to remember Him. One's disinclinations are due to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. According to Bhagavad-gītā (16.7), pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca janā na vidur āsurāḥ: the asuras do not know which way one should be inclined to act and which way one should not be inclined to act. Although the asuras oppose devotional service, it is to be understood that they are inclined that way due to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Because the asuras do not like to engage in the Lord's devotional service, the Lord within gives them the intelligence to forget.</p>
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<div id="SB_Canto_6" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 6"><h3>SB Canto 6</h3>
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<div id="SB6520_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_6" book="SB" index="206" link="SB 6.5.20" link_text="SB 6.5.20">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 6.5.20|SB 6.5.20, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Bhagavad-gītā (16.7) says, pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca janā na vidur āsurāḥ: demons, who are less than human beings but are not called animals, do not know the meaning of pravṛtti and nivṛtti, work to be done and work not to be done. In the material world, every living entity has a desire to lord it over the material world as much as possible. This is called pravṛtti-mārga. All the śāstras, however, advise nivṛtti-mārga, or release from the materialistic way of life. Apart from the śāstras of the Vedic civilization, which is the oldest of the world, other śāstras agree on this point.</p>
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<div id="SB_Canto_7" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 7"><h3>SB Canto 7</h3>
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<div id="SB71547_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_7" book="SB" index="660" link="SB 7.15.47" link_text="SB 7.15.47">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 7.15.47|SB 7.15.47, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">As confirmed in Bhagavad-gītā (16.7), pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca janā na vidur āsurāḥ: the asuras, nondevotees, cannot distinguish between pravṛtti and nivṛtti. Whatever they like they do. Such persons think themselves independent of the strong material nature, and therefore they are irresponsible and do not care to act piously. Indeed, they do not distinguish between pious and impious activity. Bhakti, of course, does not depend on pious or impious activity.</p>
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<div id="Other_Books_by_Srila_Prabhupada" class="section" sec_index="3" parent="compilation" text="Other Books by Srila Prabhupada"><h2>Other Books by Srila Prabhupada</h2>
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<div id="Renunciation_Through_Wisdom" class="sub_section" sec_index="5" parent="Other_Books_by_Srila_Prabhupada" text="Renunciation Through Wisdom"><h3>Renunciation Through Wisdom</h3>
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<div id="RTW12_0" class="quote" parent="Renunciation_Through_Wisdom" book="OB" index="4" link="RTW 1.2" link_text="Renunciation Through Wisdom 1.2">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:RTW 1.2|Renunciation Through Wisdom 1.2]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">In the Bhagavad-gītā (16.7-20) the Supreme Lord has exhaustively described the nature of such atheistic demons:</p>
<p>Those who are demoniac do not know what is to be done and what is not to be done. Neither cleanliness nor proper behaviour nor truth is found in them. They say that this world is unreal, with no foundation, no God in control. They say it is produced of sex desire and has no cause other than lust. Following such conclusions, the demoniac, who are lost to themselves and who have no intelligence, engage in unbeneficial, horrible works meant to destroy the world. Taking shelter of insatiable lust and absorbed in the conceit of pride and false prestige, the demoniac, thus illusioned, are always sworn to unclean work, attracted by the impermanent.</p>
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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2>
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonBG136LondonJuly261973_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="22" link="Lecture on BG 1.36 -- London, July 26, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 1.36 -- London, July 26, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 1.36 -- London, July 26, 1973|Lecture on BG 1.36 -- London, July 26, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So pāpam eva. Pāpam means sinful activities, and puṇyam is pious. So people should consider in every activity, whether it is pāpam or puṇyam, whether it is virtuous or sinful activities. But the asuras, they do not know. Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca na vidur asurā janāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). Those who are asuras, they do not care what is sinful or what is right. "I like it; I must do it." This is asura. There is no reference to the authorities, whether the action which I am going to do, whether it is pious or impious. Because by impious activities I will be degraded. Adho gacchanti tamasaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 14.18 (1972)|BG 14.18]]). Jaghanya-guṇa-vṛtti-sthāḥ. If we become addicted to sinful activities, the result will be we shall be degraded. But they do not know. Even so-called religious priests, they support killing, condone it. Killing is impious, sinful activity, but in the name of religion, killing is also going on.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG136LondonJuly261973_1" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="22" link="Lecture on BG 1.36 -- London, July 26, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 1.36 -- London, July 26, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 1.36 -- London, July 26, 1973|Lecture on BG 1.36 -- London, July 26, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So here is a mahā-bhāgavata, in the womb of this woman. So let us offer our obeisances. This is Vaiṣṇava. As soon as understood, that there is a Vaiṣṇava mahā-bhāgavata, in the womb of this woman, "She is to be respected, offered obeisances." This is called Vaiṣṇava. But the asura would not do that. Asura would not do that. That is the difference between devatā and asura. In the Bhagavad-gītā, Sixteenth Chapter, you will find the description of the asura: pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca na vidur asurā janāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). Pravṛtti. Pravṛtti means what sort of activities we shall do, and what sort of activities we shall not do. The asuras, they do not know. The asuras, they do not know. Anything they do. "For my sense gratification I must do everything." Therefore they become entangled. So long they are strong in this life, they do not take care of anyone. Śāstra, sādhu or guru. They do not care for anything. So that means... But the asuric civilization, the living entities become entangled because he may not care for any action, the asura, but the nature is there.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG225LondonAugust281973_2" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="90" link="Lecture on BG 2.25 -- London, August 28, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.25 -- London, August 28, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.25 -- London, August 28, 1973|Lecture on BG 2.25 -- London, August 28, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So this civilization, modern civilization, having no information of the soul, it is simply a pack of animals only, that's all. Therefore they do not care what is the resultant action of their activities, they do not care for pious, piety and vicious activities. They take everything... That is asuric civilization. Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca na vidur āsura-janāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). Āsura-jana means these rascals or asuras, atheists, fools, rascals, they do not know pravṛtti and nivṛtti. Pravṛtti means in which subject matter we should take interest, that is called pravṛtti. And nivṛtti means in which subject matter we shall not take interest, or we shall try to give it up.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG239LondonSeptember121973_3" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="101" link="Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973|Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Karma-bandham. You act something, and there is reaction. That is called karma-bandha. We can understand very easily. Whatever you act, there is reaction. Good act or bad act... There are two things. So if while in this body we act piously, then our future is very good. If we act impiously, then our future is not very good. So actually we should act piously, not impiously. That is human life. We should know what kind of action we should do. In the Sixteenth Chapter of Bhagavad-gītā you'll find pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca na vidur āsura-janāḥ: ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]) "Those who are asuras, they do not know what kind of action should be done and what kind of action should not be done." Not that "Anything I like at my whims..." That is not... At least for human being, he should not do. Even in the state laws, if you act whimsically, whatever you like, you'll be liable to so many difficulties, and what to speak of spiritual life?</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG239LondonSeptember121973_4" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="101" link="Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973|Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Demon is thinking how to wipe out, how to banish Kṛṣṇa, how to kill Kṛṣṇa. They don't want Kṛṣṇa. That is demonic. So therefore they do not know that a demonic person is always suffering. That is due to his forgetfulness of Kṛṣṇa. But because he is demon, he is continuing the business. Therefore they do not know... Na te viduḥ... They... That is also... Na te viduḥ svārtha-gatiṁ hi viṣṇum ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.31|SB 7.5.31]]). Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca na vidur āsura-janāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). Āsura-jana, those who are asuras, they do not know what to do and what not to do. Therefore one has to learn how to live, what to know, what to forget. Every... Every educational or progressive method has got do's and do not's. So the asuras, they do not know what they should do and what they should not do. That is asura. And a devotee, he knows what to do and what not to do. There is no illicit sex. That is "do not." But there is "do" also, that "If you want sex life, then get yourself married according to religious principle and get a wife and beget nice children." That is "do." And "No illicit sex," that is "do not." Side by side. "You do not take intoxicants"—that is "do not." But "You take Kṛṣṇa prasādam and be intoxicated with Kṛṣṇa's love"—that is "do."</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG325HyderabadDecember171976_5" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="126" link="Lecture on BG 3.25 -- Hyderabad, December 17, 1976" link_text="Lecture on BG 3.25 -- Hyderabad, December 17, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 3.25 -- Hyderabad, December 17, 1976|Lecture on BG 3.25 -- Hyderabad, December 17, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That we have discussed the other day, that pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca na vidur āsurā janāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). In which way we have to engage our brain and talent they do not know. That is the difference between a devatā and an asura. Asura does not know. Asura thinks that he will live forever and let him prepare big, big plans for material comforts. This is asuric civilization. He'll not be allowed to stay here. Duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam ([[Vanisource:BG 8.15 (1972)|BG 8.15]]). It is the place for suffering so that we can understand our position.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG420BombayApril91974_6" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="183" link="Lecture on BG 4.20 -- Bombay, April 9, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.20 -- Bombay, April 9, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.20 -- Bombay, April 9, 1974|Lecture on BG 4.20 -- Bombay, April 9, 1974]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda:</p>
:tyaktvā karma-phalāsaṅgaṁ
:nitya-tṛpto nirāśrayaḥ
:karmaṇy abhipravṛtto 'pi
:naiva kiñcit karoti saḥ
<p>First of all I shall translate this into Hindu. Then I shall speak in English. (Hindi) So tyaktvā karma-phalāsaṅgam. This is very difficult task. Everyone is expected some result for his personal benefit. "How much I have gained by this business?" That is our disease. Everyone. Idam adya mayā labdham imaṁ prāpsye punar dhanam. All the people of the world, they are struggling hard for existence, simply calculating that "This much I have achieved today, and this much I'll achieve tomorrow. In this way my bank balance will be increased more and more." That is very much explained in the Sixteenth Chapter of Bhagavad-gītā, āsuri pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca janā vidur āsura-janāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). Āsura-janāḥ. (aside:) Just find out the page, Sixteenth Chapter. Āsura-janāḥ. (Hindi) Oh, I will continue in English. Asuric means non-devotees. Atheist. Asuric. What is the page?</p>
<p>Pradyumna: Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca janā na vidur āsurāḥ, na śaucam...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What is the page number?</p>
<p>Pradyumna: Seven-hundred-thirty-one.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So in the Sixteenth Chapter it has been explained that what is the difference between atheist and theist, or persons with God consciousness and persons without God consciousness.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG1627BombayApril81971_7" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="382" link="Lecture on BG 16.2-7 -- Bombay, April 8, 1971" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.2-7 -- Bombay, April 8, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.2-7 -- Bombay, April 8, 1971|Lecture on BG 16.2-7 -- Bombay, April 8, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So here also the same example can be cited, that Kṛṣṇa says personally, mā śucaḥ sampadaṁ daivīm abhijāto 'si bhārata. My dear Arjuna, don't be worried that you are in the demonic situation. Your situation is daivika, godly. Why it is godly? Because although Arjuna was fighting, it was violent, because the fight was on account of Kṛṣṇa, therefore it is good. Otherwise how you can support? He was engaged in killing business and it is called daivī sampat. Then He explains,</p>
:dvau bhūta-sargau loke 'smin
:daiva āsura eva ca
:daivo vistaraśaḥ prokta
:āsuraṁ pārtha me śṛṇu
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.6 (1972)|BG 16.6]])
<p>that "I have very vividly described what are the godly characteristics. Now I shall explain to you what are the demonic characteristics." Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca janā na vidur āsurāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). Who is a demon? A demon's first qualification is he does not know what is, I mean to say, real duty, or what one should do and what one should not do. (break) ...pravṛtti. Pravṛtti and nivṛtti. There are two kinds of activities, pravṛtti. So if one does not know what kind of activities one can accept and what kind of activities one should reject, if he does not know, then he is a asura, demon. (end)</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG165CalcuttaFebruary231972_8" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="384" link="Lecture on BG 16.5 -- Calcutta, February 23, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.5 -- Calcutta, February 23, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.5 -- Calcutta, February 23, 1972|Lecture on BG 16.5 -- Calcutta, February 23, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Unfortunately, the modern civilization, they do not know what is vimokṣāya. They're so blind. They do not know that there is some position which is called vimokṣāya. They do not know. They do not know what is next life. There is no educational system. I am traveling all over the world. There is not a single institution which is meant for giving education about the transmigration of the soul, how one can get better life. But they don't believe. They have no knowledge. That is āsurī sampat. That will be described here: pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca janā na vidur āsurāḥ. Pravṛttim. Pravṛttim means attraction, or attachment. In what sort of activities we should be attached, and what sort of activities we shall be detached, that, the asuras, they do not know. Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca.</p>
:pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca
:janā na vidur āsuraḥ
:na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro
:na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]])
<p>These are the asuras. They do not know how their life should be directed, in which direction. That is called pravṛtti. And what sort of life they should be detached, give up, nivṛtti. Pravṛttis tu jīvātmana. That is another. Bhunam. Nivṛttis tu mahāphalām. The whole śāstra, whole Vedic direction is for pravṛtti-nirvṛtti. They are gradually training.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG165CalcuttaFebruary231972_9" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="384" link="Lecture on BG 16.5 -- Calcutta, February 23, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.5 -- Calcutta, February 23, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.5 -- Calcutta, February 23, 1972|Lecture on BG 16.5 -- Calcutta, February 23, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Just like in our society, we have picked up the most essential nivṛtti and pravṛtti. The pravṛtti... We are instructing our students, "No illicit sex life, no meat-eating, no āmiṣa-sevā." Āmiṣa-sevā nityā sujantoḥ. But the śāstra says that if you can give up nivṛttis tu mahāphalām, then your life is successful. But we are not prepared. If you are not prepared to accept the pravṛttis and not to accept the nivṛttis, then one must know that he is asura. Kṛṣṇa says here, pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca janā na vidur āsurāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). They do not... "Oh, what is that?" They say, even the big, big swamīs will say, "Oh, what is there wrong? You can eat anything. It doesn't matter. You can do anything. You simply give me fees, and I give you some special mantra." These things are going on. So because we want such cheaters... If I say, just like in our Society, if you had been given the freedom, "Now, whatever you like you can do," millions of students would have come. But that is not possible. We don't make any compromise like that, that "You can do whatever you like. You can eat whatever you like." No. We don't restrict to the ordinary man, but if one comes forward to become our student, serious student, then he must follow this pravṛtti-nirvṛtti.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG165CalcuttaFebruary231972_10" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="384" link="Lecture on BG 16.5 -- Calcutta, February 23, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.5 -- Calcutta, February 23, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.5 -- Calcutta, February 23, 1972|Lecture on BG 16.5 -- Calcutta, February 23, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">My Guru Mahārāja used to say that this householder life means it is a concession for sense gratification. That's all. But our position is that we should not continue sense gratification for all the life. The sense gratification process is going on by the hogs and dogs throughout the whole life, but we should not be like hogs and dogs. We should cease at a certain time. Pañcaśordhvaṁ vanaṁ vrajet. So far, no more. That should be our model. Not that continue. That, that is Vedic way of life. Pravṛttiṁ-nivṛtti. So long pravṛtti, attraction for household life, and next nivṛtti, "Now I shall be detached." But the asuras, as it is said, pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca na vidur āsurāḥ janāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). And if you continue simply pravṛtti-mārga, then you'll remain asura; you don't become deva. The whole process Vedic system is, even if you are asuras, gradually by practice, by good association, by following the principles of śāstra, we can become deva. So our, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, actually we're doing that.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG166SouthAfricaOctober181975_11" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="387" link="Lecture on BG 16.6 -- South Africa, October 18, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.6 -- South Africa, October 18, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.6 -- South Africa, October 18, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.6 -- South Africa, October 18, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So the symptoms of demon... Kṛṣṇa says, daivo vistaraśaḥ proktaḥ: "I have already spoken elaborately about the persons who are daiva, who are on the platform of demigods. Now..." Prokta āsuraṁ pārtha me śṛṇu: "Now I am describing who are the asuras. Just try to understand." The first symptoms of asura is, it is said,</p>
:pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca
:janā na vidur āsurāḥ
:na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro
:na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]])
<p>Very nicely described. The first symptom is pravṛtti and nivṛtti. Why we are in this material world, when it has begun—that the asuras do not know. Sometimes they ask that "Why we have come to this material world? We are suffering, we can understand." Or sometimes they say, "God is unjust, unkind, that they have created this material world and we have been put into it," so on, so on. But actually this pravṛtti, this intention or this purpose of enjoying this material world, is not given to you by God. We have created. God's desire is that you become a devotee. Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66 (1972)|BG 18.66]]). That is God's desire. But you don't want it.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG166SouthAfricaOctober181975_12" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="387" link="Lecture on BG 16.6 -- South Africa, October 18, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.6 -- South Africa, October 18, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.6 -- South Africa, October 18, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.6 -- South Africa, October 18, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">If people take advantage of these books they can stop this pravṛtti, this intense desire for enjoying this material world. But the asuras, they do not know that what we should accept and what we should not accept. Pravṛtti means to accept something, and nivṛtti means to deny something. So they do not know. This is the first symptom of the asuras. Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca na viduḥ. Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca janā na vidur āsurāḥ, āsurāḥ janāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]), those who are demons, asuras, they do not know it.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG166SouthAfricaOctober181975_13" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="387" link="Lecture on BG 16.6 -- South Africa, October 18, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.6 -- South Africa, October 18, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.6 -- South Africa, October 18, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.6 -- South Africa, October 18, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Nāpi cācāro na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate. And they do not know what is truth or what is truthfulness. Or, in other words, everyone is liar. I have seen many big, big gentlemen that for nothing they will speak lies, for nothing, without any profit. They will speak so many lies. Na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate. To become truthful is one of the brahminical qualifications. Satyam. That is required. But the asuras, they don't care for. They will go on, telling lies, volumes of lies. They don't mind for it. These are the symptoms. Na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro na satyaṁ teṣu. And their life is aimless, not actual life. Real life means with aim. The asuras, they have no aim. They do not know what is the aim, neither they follow. Then? Other symptom?</p>
:asatyam apratiṣṭhaṁ te
:jagad āhur anīśvaram
:aparaspara-sambhūtaṁ
:kim anyat kāma-haitukam
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.8 (1972)|BG 16.8]])
<p>Their other philosophy is that there is no God.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG167TokyoJanuary271975_14" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="389" link="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Nitāi: "Those who are demoniac do not know what is to be done and what is not to be done. Neither cleanliness nor proper behavior nor truth is found in them."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So the human being...</p>
:pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca
:janā na vidur āsurāḥ
:na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro
:na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]])
<p>In the human form of life there are two classes of men. First of all living being. Amongst the living being there are some living being which can move or can walk from one place to another. And there are certain other living beings which cannot move, just like the trees, plants. They are also living being, but they are standing in one place for many thousands of years. They have no independence to move. Now, in the moving living beings there are so many. The flies, the insects, the reptiles, the birds, the beast. In this way, by evolutionary process, one after another, one comes to the form of human being. This human being is therefore very, very rare. After going through 8,400,000 species of life, one comes to this human form of life.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG167TokyoJanuary271975_15" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="389" link="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">There is sun-god. In the Bhagavad-gītā you will find the name of the sun-god, or the predominating deity of the sun planet, Vivasvān. His name is Vivasvān. Everything you will find in the śāstra. So there are two divisions: asura and sura, or asura or deva. Devāsura. Deva means those who are conscious of the responsibility of life. They are called deva. So for the devas, Kṛṣṇa has explained so many things. Now He is explaining about the asuras. What are the symptoms of asura? He says first of all, pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca janā na vidur āsurāḥ. Pravṛttiṁ nivṛttim ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]).</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG167TokyoJanuary271975_16" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="389" link="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So we don't say anyone asura and sura, but, we understand from the śāstra anyone who takes to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, whatever he may be, he becomes a sura. Even if he is born in asura family, it doesn't matter. Just like Prahlāda Mahārāja. His father was a asura, but still, he became the first-class sura. Similarly, everyone can become first-class sura. They have to be trained. The asuras, they... Therefore it is said that pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca janā na vidur āsurāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). Asuras, the fault is, asuras, they do not know how to live a very happy and clean life. They do not know. Ācāra. Na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāraḥ. They have not cleanliness and good behavior.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG167TokyoJanuary271975_17" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="389" link="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The priest said that "These boys, they are our boys, and they never came to church to inquire about what is God. Now they are mad after God. What is this?" Because they have become suras by training. By training. So asuras can be turned into suras. There is no difficulty. Provided they abide by the rules and regulation, orders of the spiritual master, they can be suras. Because they do not know... Na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate. They do not know what is satyam. Satyaṁ paraṁ dhīmahi ([[Vanisource:SB 1.1.1|SB 1.1.1]]). Therefore we are teaching them Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, satyaṁ paraṁ dhīmahi, the ultimate truth.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG167HawaiiFebruary31975_18" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="390" link="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Nitāi: "Those who are demoniac do not know what is to be done and what is not to be done. Neither cleanliness nor proper behavior nor truth is found in them."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda:</p>
:pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca
:janā na vidur āsurāḥ
:na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro
:na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]])
<p>So these are the symptoms of asura. We have already discussed the characteristic of divine nature and the characteristic of demonic nature. In the Viṣṇu Purāṇa this is also confirmed. Dvau bhūta-sargau loke daiva āsura eva ca ([[Vanisource:BG 16.6 (1972)|BG 16.6]]). There are two kinds of people all over the universe. There is asuraloka and devaloka, planet. So devāsura fight. That is going on perpetually, daiva and āsura, demonic nature and divine nature.</p>
<p>There are many people; they do not like us because we are preaching God consciousness. This is our fault. Even in our country, in India, the government do not like us because nowadays, everywhere practically, the demonic people being very much increased, the government is also demonic. So they do not like people in divine nature.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG167HawaiiFebruary31975_19" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="390" link="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So two classes of men, demonic and divine. So divine nature has been explained in various ways from the very beginning. Now Kṛṣṇa is explaining about the demonic nature. The first characteristic of demonic nature is they do not know what should be the pravṛtti and what should be nivṛtti, proper and improper action. Improper action is mentioned here, beginning, that na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāraḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]), not cleanliness. Cleanliness is essential. "Cleanliness is next to Godliness."</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG167HawaiiFebruary31975_20" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="390" link="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So this is demonic nature. They will simply try to suppress Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement because these symptoms are there, na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate. There is no truthfulness. They do not know what is ultimate truth. Satyaṁ paraṁ dhīmahi. In the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam the beginning is satyaṁ paraṁ dhīmahi. Janmādy asya yataḥ: ([[Vanisource:SB 1.1.1|SB 1.1.1]]) "The absolute truth... I am meditating upon the supreme truth, Absolute Truth." What is absolute truth? Janmādy asya yataḥ: "From whom everything has come into existence, that is Absolute."</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG167HawaiiFebruary31975_21" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="390" link="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: The spirit soul is the basis. Our body, very small particle, spiritual particle, takes shelter in the womb of the mother, and gradually the living spark develops this body. That is our practical experience. And if, some way or other, the living spark is gone... Suppose a dead child is born. It will not grow. It will not change. So this is very simple thing, that on this living being the matter grows, not from matter living being comes in. So we have written a small pamphlet, and in German language it is already published. People are very gladly accepting, reading this book. What is the name you have given?</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: Life Comes From Life.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, German name?</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: Leben Komt von Leben.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So, na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate. The demonic people, they do not have the truth. Only on false theory, the Darwin's theory... We have commented upon Darwin's theory also in our book, Scientific Basis of Kṛṣṇa Consciousness. Dr. Svarūpa Dāmodara Brahmacārī, he has written a small booklet. He has criticized Darwin very strongly, that he is a speculator. A speculator cannot give you truth. That is not possible. By speculation you cannot say, "Two plus two equal to five." That is not science. "Two plus two equal to four," that is everywhere. And if you speculate, "No, two plus two equal to five," or "two plus two equal to three," that is not science. So scientific basis means it should be fact, not speculation, mano-dharma. Mano-dharma means speculation.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG167HawaiiFebruary31975_22" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="390" link="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hawaii, February 3, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Or rāja means king and ṛṣi means saintly person. So either the ṛṣis did know or the kings did know. Or a king who is not less than a ṛṣi, he could know and he could rule over. That is the Vedic injunction. Imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ. But without being rājarṣi, without being highly qualified, nobody can understand.</p>
<p>Therefore our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is trying to purify the people in general to the brāhmaṇa stage. Then they'll be... you'll be able to understand. Otherwise, na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāraḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). If he's not clean, if he has..., he does not know how to behave, it is difficult. But Caitanya Mahāprabhu is still more kind that "Never mind whatever you are. Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and you become purified." This is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's movement. It doesn't matter whether what you are. Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and you'll be purified. Then you'll understand everything, what is God, what you are, what is your relation. This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. Thank you very much. (end)</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG167SanandDecember261975_23" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="391" link="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Sanand, December 26, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Sanand, December 26, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Sanand, December 26, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Sanand, December 26, 1975]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda:</p>
:pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca
:janā na vidur āsurāḥ
:na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro
:na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]])
<p>Indian man: There's something in between.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That's all right.</p>
<p>Indian man: It's not connecting.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Now here is the description of the asuras as stated by Kṛṣṇa. There are two classes of men, asura and deva. Daiva and āsura. Viṣṇu-bhakto bhaved deva asuras tad-viparyayaḥ. The devas, devatāloka... (aside) Don't talk.</p>
<p>Indian man: (indistinct)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No... And whatever it may be, why you are interpreting? You stop. In the upper planetary system, beginning from the sun, there are Sūryaloka, Candraloka, Maṅgala, Bhūr, Bṛhaspati, up to Saturn, there are different lokas. So the upper planetary system, beginning from Sūrya, they are called devaloka. They are all devotees of the Lord; therefore they are called devatā. They are not pure devotees, but they are not disobedient to the orders of the Supreme Lord. Śuddha-bhakta means they do not come to the material world.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG167HyderabadDecember141976_24" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="392" link="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hyderabad, December 14, 1976" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hyderabad, December 14, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hyderabad, December 14, 1976|Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hyderabad, December 14, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So, we were discussing yesterday about the demons or nondevotees. Demons means nondevotee. That I have explained. Devatā means demigods, and demons... So demons, they do not know which way they have to live their life. That they do not know.</p>
:pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca
:janā na vidur āsurāḥ
:na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro
:na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]])
<p>These are the first qualification of the demons, that they do not know which way one has to make progress. That they do not know. This is the defect of the modern civilization. They have universities, educational institution and advancement of knowledge, so on, so on. But ask them what is the aim of life, why education is being imparted, what is the purpose. These are... They do not know. Do they know?</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG167HyderabadDecember151976_25" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="393" link="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hyderabad, December 15, 1976" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hyderabad, December 15, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hyderabad, December 15, 1976|Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hyderabad, December 15, 1976]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda:</p>
:pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca
:janā na vidur āsurāḥ
:na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro
:na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]])
<p>So this asuric public, they do not know which way their destination is. They say it is self-interest but these rascals they do not know what is the self-interest because their very beginning of life is mistaken. They are thinking this body is the self. So how they will know self-interest? The basic principle is mistaken. Dehātma-buddhi. The dogs, cats, they think that "I am this body." So same interest, asura. They do not know, neither they try to understand. Dehino 'smin yathā dehe ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]). Within this body the spirit soul is there. They cannot understand. Therefore their self-interest is mistaken. Real self-interest is that "I am spirit soul, I am son of God, my father is very, very rich, opulent. I have given up my father's association and therefore I am suffering." Otherwise there is no question of suffering.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG167HyderabadDecember151976_26" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="393" link="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hyderabad, December 15, 1976" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hyderabad, December 15, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hyderabad, December 15, 1976|Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hyderabad, December 15, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Just like we see amongst the hippies. Unnecessarily they have accepted suffering. Similarly, unnecessarily we have accepted sufferings of this material world. If our real consciousness, means Kṛṣṇa consciousness, is awakened, then we become aware of our position, constitutional position. Then we are saved from this repetition of birth and death and go back home, back to Godhead.</p>
<p>But these asuras, they do not know it. Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). They do not know. Where we shall stop our activities and where we shall continue our activities, that they do not know. They are increasing their activities on the platform where they will continually suffer. That has to be changed, and then our life will be successful. So na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāraḥ. Ācāra. Ācāra and vicāra, there are two things. Vicāra means consideration. That is vicāra. Just like vicāra prati. The high-court judge is called vicāra prati. Two opposite party presenting their grievances and he will consider and give his judgment. So vicāra-paṇḍita. Unless one is very learned, he cannot consider things.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG167HyderabadDecember151976_27" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="393" link="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hyderabad, December 15, 1976" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hyderabad, December 15, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hyderabad, December 15, 1976|Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Hyderabad, December 15, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Ācārya means he teaches by personal behavior. Just like I teach you, "no intoxication." So if I am addicted to intoxication and if I say that "You don't take any intoxication," then who will care for me? This is therefore ācāra. Ācārati. Practically you have to behave; then you can preach. Otherwise you cannot become ācārya. Ācārya means one who practices the ācāra and then teaches. He is ācārya. So ācāra. Na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro na satyam. Satyam means truthfulness. He is preaching something and doing something. That is not truthfulness. Truthfulness means what you preach, you must do. So these things are lacking in the asuric life, so we have to be careful that we must be very neat and clean. We must behave according to injunction of the śāstra and guru. Then we can get out of the jurisdiction of asuras. Then we can come to the platform of sura, or devatā. Then we can make advance in spiritual life. If you keep yourself in the asuric platform there is no possibility of making advancement in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That is warning here. Na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate. Asatyam apratiṣṭhaṁ te jagad āhur anīśvaram ([[Vanisource:BG 16.8 (1972)|BG 16.8]]). Because we are rascals, not cleansed, inward, outward... Externally one has to be cleansed.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG168HawaiiFebruary41975_28" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="395" link="Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Hawaii, February 4, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Hawaii, February 4, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Hawaii, February 4, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Hawaii, February 4, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This is the verdict of the asuras. We have discussed the characteristics of asuras for the last two days. Now, gradually, Kṛṣṇa is explaining the demonic characteristic. He has explained the divine characteristic extensively before this. Now He is explaining what are the demonic characteristics. So, nāpi cācāraḥ. They even do not know how to live nicely. That verse we have already discussed last night.</p>
:pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca
:janā na vidur āsurāḥ
:na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro
:na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]])
<p>Pravṛtti and nivṛtti means which one, which path, we shall take and which path we shall reject. That they do not know. Na śaucam, not cleanliness. Even ordinary things, cleanliness, that is very hygienic. That also they do not know. Na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāraḥ. They do not know how to behave also. Na satyam. And no truthfulness is there. This verse we have already discussed.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG168HawaiiFebruary41975_29" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="395" link="Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Hawaii, February 4, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Hawaii, February 4, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Hawaii, February 4, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Hawaii, February 4, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">One cannot come to America without proper visa. So how you can go to the other planet without proper visa. So they do not think. That is, therefore, asuras, demons. They are simply thinking that they are perfect, they can do everything. That is not possible. That is not possible.</p>
<p>Therefore a devotee knows how to do things. He knows not automatically, but he learns from the spiritual master, the representative of God. Then he becomes perfect. Otherwise asura. Na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāraḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). The asuras, they do not know what is cleanliness, what is proper behavior. That is asuric quality. So we have explained. By asuric quality we remain conditioned with this material world. But daivī qual..., by divine quality, we can become free from this material bondage and go back to home, back to Godhead. So these things are very elaborately explained in this chapter, Sixteenth Chapter. So let us know who is demon and who is divine. Thank you very much.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG168HyderabadDecember161976_30" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="396" link="Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Hyderabad, December 16, 1976" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Hyderabad, December 16, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Hyderabad, December 16, 1976|Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Hyderabad, December 16, 1976]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda:</p>
:asatyam apratiṣṭhaṁ te
:jagad āhur anīśvaram
:aparaspara-sambhūtaṁ
:kim anyat kāma-haitukam
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.8 (1972)|BG 16.8]])
<p>So we are discussing for the last few days about the asuras, demons. (aside:) Stop. So the beginning is, na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate. The asuras, they are aśuci, unclean. That is their misfortune, that they cannot understand what is the right way, what is the wrong way. So śuci, cleanliness, is the first qualification of the daiva-prakṛti or devatās. There are two classes of men. One class is devatā, and the other class asura. So asura class, they will have to suffer. They cannot get liberation from the material bondage.</p>
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonSB11521LosAngelesDecember11973_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="289" link="Lecture on SB 1.15.21 -- Los Angeles, December 1, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.15.21 -- Los Angeles, December 1, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.15.21 -- Los Angeles, December 1, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.15.21 -- Los Angeles, December 1, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā, na vidur āsurā janāḥ, pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca janā na vidur āsurāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). Pravṛtti means we have got some inclination to accept something and we have disinclination to reject something. Everyone knows it. But the asuric jana, those who are asuras, demons, they do not know in which way we shall accept and in which way we shall reject. That they do not know. That is called āsura-jana. Just like we are advising our students, "Reject this: no illicit sex, no intoxication, no gambling, no meat-eating. Reject. And accept; chant Hare Kṛṣṇa." The demons, they do not know. They do not know it. They do not know why they are rejecting this and why they are accepting this, janā na vidur āsurāḥ. Because they are asuras. If we accept this path, then we are going to be liberated. What is that liberation? Liberation means to get out of this material bondage of body, dehino 'smin. Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti ([[Vanisource:BG 4.9 (1972)|BG 4.9]]). This knowledge is wanting. There are so many universities, educational institution, big, big professors, scientists, all rascals. All rascals, we declare. Let them come and argue with us. All rascals. So therefore it is said, harāv abhaktasya kuto mahad-guṇāḥ.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB231LosAngelesMay191972_1" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="374" link="Lecture on SB 2.3.1 -- Los Angeles, May 19, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 2.3.1 -- Los Angeles, May 19, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 2.3.1 -- Los Angeles, May 19, 1972|Lecture on SB 2.3.1 -- Los Angeles, May 19, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">In the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ janā na vidur āsurāḥ. Asura-jana, those who are demons, they do not know these two things— pravṛtti and nivṛtti—what is our duty and what is our not duty. Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca... ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). That is modern civilization. They do not know. What is our duty to do and what is our duty not to do—they do not know. Neither any education, in this life what we should do, what we should not do.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB6115LosAngelesJune271975_2" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="613" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.15 -- Los Angeles, June 27, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.15 -- Los Angeles, June 27, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.15 -- Los Angeles, June 27, 1975|Lecture on SB 6.1.15 -- Los Angeles, June 27, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So we have been discussing for the last few days how to become free from the reaction of our sinful life. That is real problem. But people, they have no knowledge what is life, what is sinful life, what is pious life, why we are put into this condition that "We have to do this; we haven't got to do that." This is real philosophy of life. The āsuras, as we were discussing in this morning walk, they do not know it. Āsurās... Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca na vidur āsurāḥ janāḥ. We are living... In the ordinary life also, we live a little carefully so that we may not fall sick. For that purpose there is very vigilance in the immigration department that in Australia we had some nice mangoes brought from Bombay, and they did not allow to take it. They thought this mango is more dangerous than the dry meat. They will allow importation of dry meat, three hundred years old, (laughter) put into the refrigerator, and that is imported. That is not infectious.</p>
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<div id="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Lectures" text="Nectar of Devotion Lectures"><h3>Nectar of Devotion Lectures</h3>
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionBombayJanuary11973_0" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="12" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 1, 1973" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 1, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 1, 1973|The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 1, 1973]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Now Kṛṣṇa says that there are two kinds of men, two classes of men. One class, daiva, or demigods, the other class, asura. So "I've spoken many things about the daivas. Now I shall speak about the symptoms of the asuras." What is the asuras?</p>
<p>Pradyumna:</p>
:pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca
:janā na vidur āsurāḥ
:na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro
:na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]])
<p>Prabhupāda: Now describe this.</p>
<p>Pradyumna: "Those who are demoniac do not know what is to be done and what is not be done."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is the first qualification of the demons. They do not know what is right doing and what is wrong doing. Suppose we, just like we restrict anyone who comes to our camp to become our student, we restrict that "You should not do this" or "You should do this." Anywhere, if you go to a physician, he'll say also that "You shall do this." Some "do's" and some "do not's." So the asuras, they do not know, because they have no direction, they do not know what are the "do's" and what are the "do not's." This is the first qualification of the asuras. They do not know. Because they do not like to take lesson from superior. They manufacture their own lesson. Then?</p>
<p>Pradyumna:</p>
:na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro
:na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]])
<p>Prabhupāda: Now... Then?</p>
<p>Pradyumna: Asatyam apratiṣṭham...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is the... Asatyam... This is the first word. Asatyam.</p>
<p>Pradyumna: Apratiṣṭhaṁ te jagad...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Jagad āhur anīśvaram ([[Vanisource:BG 16.8 (1972)|BG 16.8]]). This is their first proposition. There is zero, asatyam. (pause) I, I... Asatyam apratiṣṭhaṁ te. They, they do not find out that there is a cause of this material manifestation. Without any cause. The materialistic scientists say, "There was a chunk, and..." What is that? Chunk theory? Come on. So that all of a sudden the chunk became disturbed and there was... And the creation came into existence. So jagad āhur anīśvaram ([[Vanisource:BG 16.8 (1972)|BG 16.8]]). "There is no God. There is no existence of God." Every religion says... The Christian religion also says, the Muhammadan religion says, the Hindu religion says that God created this cosmic manifestation or this material world. But the asuras will say, "There is no God. There is no creator." Jagad āhur anīśvaram ([[Vanisource:BG 16.8 (1972)|BG 16.8]]). Then?</p>
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<div id="Festival_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Lectures" text="Festival Lectures"><h3>Festival Lectures</h3>
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<div id="HisDivineGraceSrilaBhaktisiddhantaSarasvatiGosvamiPrabhupadasDisappearanceDayLectureBombayDecember221975_0" class="quote" parent="Festival_Lectures" book="Lec" index="36" link="His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Prabhupada's Disappearance Day, Lecture -- Bombay, December 22, 1975" link_text="His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Prabhupada's Disappearance Day, Lecture -- Bombay, December 22, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Prabhupada's Disappearance Day, Lecture -- Bombay, December 22, 1975|His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Prabhupada's Disappearance Day, Lecture -- Bombay, December 22, 1975]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda:</p>
:pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca
:janā na vidur āsuraḥ
:na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro
:na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]])
<p>Na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate. This is a verse from the Sixteenth Chapter of Bhagavad-gītā, where the Lord is describing the symptoms of the demons. Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca. Pravṛtti means inclination, inclined. And nivṛtti means disinclined. So there are two things within this material world. Our inclination is to enjoy the senses. This is general.</p>
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<div id="HisDivineGraceSrilaBhaktisiddhantaSarasvatiGosvamiPrabhupadasDisappearanceDayLectureBombayDecember221975_1" class="quote" parent="Festival_Lectures" book="Lec" index="36" link="His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Prabhupada's Disappearance Day, Lecture -- Bombay, December 22, 1975" link_text="His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Prabhupada's Disappearance Day, Lecture -- Bombay, December 22, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Prabhupada's Disappearance Day, Lecture -- Bombay, December 22, 1975|His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Prabhupada's Disappearance Day, Lecture -- Bombay, December 22, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca, janā, pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca, janā na vidur āsurāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). Janā, there are two kinds of men, asura and daiva. Daiva āsurā eva ca. There are two all throughout the whole universe, there are two classes of men: one is called daiva, and one is called āsura. One who knows his relationship with God, he is called daiva, and one who does not know, just like animal, they are called āsura. There is no particular caste or creed, that here is a caste of āsura, caste of daiva. No. Anyone who knows what is God and his relationship with God, sambandha, and then works according to that relation, and achieve the goal of life, he is called daiva, or devatā. And one who does not know this, what is the goal of life, what is God, what is my relationship with God, he is āsura.</p>
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<div id="Cornerstone_Ceremonies" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Lectures" text="Cornerstone Ceremonies"><h3>Cornerstone Ceremonies</h3>
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<div id="CornerstoneLayingBombayJanuary231975_0" class="quote" parent="Cornerstone_Ceremonies" book="Lec" index="1" link="Cornerstone Laying -- Bombay, January 23, 1975" link_text="Cornerstone Laying -- Bombay, January 23, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Cornerstone Laying -- Bombay, January 23, 1975|Cornerstone Laying -- Bombay, January 23, 1975]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: (chants maṅgalācaraṇa prayers) Hm? You bring. You can bring one chair here. (pause)</p>
:pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca
:janā na vidur āsurāḥ
:na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro
:na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]])
:asatyam apratiṣṭhaṁ te
:jagad āhur anīśvaram
:aparaspara-sambhūtaṁ
:kim anyat kāma-haitukam
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.8 (1972)|BG 16.8]])
:etāṁ dṛṣṭim avaṣṭabhya
:naṣṭātmānaḥ alpa-buddhayaḥ
:prabhavanty ugra-karmāṇaḥ
:kṣayāya jagataḥ ahitāḥ
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.9 (1972)|BG 16.9]])
<p>Just like we were talking of industries. The industries, they are mentioned in the Bhagavad-gītā as ugra-karma. Ugra-karma means ferocious activities. For livelihood, we require our maintenance. Āhāra-nidrā-bhaya-mai... These are the primary necessities of this body, material body. For that, Kṛṣṇa has said, annād bhavanti bhūtāni ([[Vanisource:BG 3.14 (1972)|BG 3.14]]). Anna—means food grains—we require. Annād bhavanti bhūtāni. That food grains we can produce very easily by agriculture.</p>
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<div id="CornerstoneLayingBombayJanuary231975_1" class="quote" parent="Cornerstone_Ceremonies" book="Lec" index="1" link="Cornerstone Laying -- Bombay, January 23, 1975" link_text="Cornerstone Laying -- Bombay, January 23, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Cornerstone Laying -- Bombay, January 23, 1975|Cornerstone Laying -- Bombay, January 23, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The purpose of this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to save the human society from becoming animals, cows and asses. This is the movement. They have established their civilization... As it is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā, animal or asuric civilization, asuric civilization, beginning is pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca janā na vidur āsurāḥ. The asuric, demonic, civilization, they do not know in which way we have to guide ourself for attaining the perfection of life, pravṛtti, and nivṛtti, and which we shall not take—favorable and unfavorable. Human life... Everyone knows, "This is favorable for me, and this is unfavorable for me." So āsurāḥ janā, those who are demonic persons, they do not know this, that "What is favorable for me and what is not favorable for me." Pravṛttiṁ nivṛttiṁ ca janā na vidur āsurāḥ, na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāraḥ: "There is no cleanliness, nor good behavior." Na satyaṁ teṣu vidya...: "And there is no truth in their life." This is asuric. We have heard many times, "asuras," "asuric civilization," "demonic civilization." This is the beginning.</p>
:pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca
:janā na vidur āsurāḥ
:na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro
:na satyaṁ teṣu...
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]])
<p>Satyam, there is no truthfulness. And just the first-class life means the brāhmaṇa life. Satyaṁ śaucaṁ tapo. The beginning is satyam. The asuric life is no satya, no truth, and the first-class life in human society, the brāhmaṇas, is satyaṁ śaucaṁ tapo, and titikṣa ārjavaḥ āstikyaṁ jñānaṁ vijñānam. This is first-class life.</p>
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithLordBrockwayJuly231973London_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="50" link="Room Conversation with Lord Brockway -- July 23, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Lord Brockway -- July 23, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Lord Brockway -- July 23, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Lord Brockway -- July 23, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Then characteristics of demonic people?</p>
<p>Pradyumna: Uh...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca...</p>
<p>Pradyumna:</p>
:pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca
:janā na vidur āsurāḥ
:na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro
:na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]])
<p>"Those who are demoniac do not know what is to be done and what is not to be done. Neither cleanliness nor proper behavior nor truth is found in them."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then? Next verse.</p>
<p>Pradyumna:</p>
:asatyam apratiṣṭhaṁ te
:jagad āhur anīśvaram
:aparaspara-sambhūtaṁ
:kim anyat kāma-haitukam
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.8 (1972)|BG 16.8]])
<p>"They say that this world is unreal, that there is no foundation and that there is no God in control. It is produced of sex desire and has no cause other than lust."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is the opinion of the demoniac people, that the, there is no God, there is no controller, it has come into existence by chemical reaction, just like a child is born by sex intercourse, reaction of some chemicals. This is the demonic theory. But... What is the next? Go on.</p>
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch291974Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="48" link="Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: These rascals, asuras, they do not know what is the goal of life. But in which way we should direct? These rascals, they do not know. Still, they become public leaders, asuras. Na viduḥ. How to dissuade people to stop this? Just like we are doing: no illicit sex. Nivṛtti. Nivṛtti. No illicit sex, no intoxication, no gambling, no meat-eating. This is nivṛtti. And pravṛtti, take to Kṛṣṇa. This is pravṛtti, nivṛtti. But the rascal demons, leaders, they do not know these things. Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca na viduḥ asura-jana ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). They do not know it. Still, they become leaders. They do not know in which way people should be directed, and still they claim to be public leaders.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch291974Bombay_1" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="48" link="Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 29, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Indian man (3): Just like these dogs around us...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes. This is the position of the asuras. This is the characteristic of the asura. They are under stringent laws of nature, being kicked every moment, and still is declaring, "There is no God, I'm independent. I'm independent." Every moment he's dying, and still he thinks, "I shall live forever." This is asura. Pravṛttiṁ ca, nivṛttiṁ ca ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). So this is required. Pravṛtti and nivṛtti, to know.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithDevoteesJuly21974Melbourne_2" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="137" link="Room Conversation with Devotees -- July 2, 1974, Melbourne" link_text="Room Conversation with Devotees -- July 2, 1974, Melbourne">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Devotees -- July 2, 1974, Melbourne|Room Conversation with Devotees -- July 2, 1974, Melbourne]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Cāru:</p>
:pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca
:janā na vidur āsurāḥ
:na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro
:na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]])
<p>"Those who are demoniac do not know what is to be done and what is not to be done. Neither cleanliness nor proper behavior nor truth is found in them."</p>
:asatyam apratiṣṭhaṁ te
:jagad āhur anīśvaram
:aparaspara-sambhūtaṁ
:kim anyat kāma-haitukam
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.8 (1972)|BG 16.8]])
<p>"They say that this world is unreal, that there is no foundation and that there is no God in control. It is produced of sex desire, and has no cause other than lust."</p>
:etāṁ dṛṣṭim avaṣṭabhya
:naṣṭātmāno 'lpa-buddhayaḥ
:prabhavanty ugra-karmāṇaḥ
:kṣayāya jagato 'hitāḥ
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.9 (1972)|BG 16.9]])
<p>"Following such conclusions, the demoniac, who are lost to themselves and who have no intelligence, engage in unbeneficial, horrible works meant to destroy the world."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This industry is horrible work. Simply by tilling your ground you get food grains, and keep some cows, you get milk—your economic problem is solved. Why such big, big industries? Ugra-karma. Then? Go on.</p>
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationJanuary271975Tokyo_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="1" link="Room Conversation -- January 27, 1975, Tokyo" link_text="Room Conversation -- January 27, 1975, Tokyo">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 27, 1975, Tokyo|Room Conversation -- January 27, 1975, Tokyo]]: </span><div class="text">Prabhupāda: That is sura. And asura, they will say, "No, there is no God. It is taking automatically, it is going on," This is foolishness. The asura means foolish, first-class foolish, that's all. Why it has become so? That is explained here. That they do not know how to behave, nāpi cācāraḥ. Na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate, neither they know what is the actual truth. They are defective themself and they are explaining in the defective way that so many rascal chemists they say that the chemical evolution is the cause of life.
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<div id="MorningWalkMay131975Perth_1" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="69" link="Morning Walk -- May 13, 1975, Perth" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 13, 1975, Perth">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 13, 1975, Perth|Morning Walk -- May 13, 1975, Perth]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: ...change your views victimized by these rascals. The rascals are very strong. (break) In the Sixteenth Chapter of Bhagavad-gītā it is said, pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ janā na vidur āsurāḥ. Asura. Asura, demons, demonic civilization, demonic people, they do not know what is pravṛtti and what is nivṛtti. Pravṛtti means material civilization, and nivṛtti means spiritual civilization. The modern man does not know. They are neither educated about this pravṛtti and nivṛtti. And we are speaking on nivṛtti, and all of them are in the pravṛtti.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMay131975Perth_2" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="69" link="Morning Walk -- May 13, 1975, Perth" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 13, 1975, Perth">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 13, 1975, Perth|Morning Walk -- May 13, 1975, Perth]]: </span><div class="text">Prabhupāda: This is our position. All the so-called professors, philosophers, they are all in the pravṛtti-mārga. Therefore they are bringing somebody, "Our interpretation is like this." Pravṛtti-mārga. Because if they can find out some support from the śāstra, then they think, "We are secure." This is going on. Pravṛttim ca nivṛttim janā na vidur āsurāḥ. The whole world is full of asuras, descendant of Hiraṇyakaśipu, and it is very difficult. But if we give them chance to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra, gradually they will understand. (pause) Our difficulty: the so-called swamis, priests, popes, they are also in the pravṛtti-mārga. All these, priests, and they have illicit sex. Pravṛtti-mārga.
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<div id="MorningWalkJune271975LosAngeles_3" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="115" link="Morning Walk -- June 27, 1975, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- June 27, 1975, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 27, 1975, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- June 27, 1975, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Just see. For picking up the paper they have to pay so much. (break) (walking:) ...is we want to distribute books vigorously because general public, they have not yet understood what is the importance of this movement; neither they have any knowledge. The general public, maybe with some exception in India, they are simply like cats and dogs. They have no knowledge, that what is the purpose of this life (indistinct) and... Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca na vidur āsurāḥ janā. That is stated. Pravṛtti means what we should accept, what kind of life we should accept and what kind of life we shall reject. This is their first ignorance. Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca na viduḥ āsurāḥ janā ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). And what is the next line? Jagad āhur anīśvaram ([[Vanisource:BG 16.8 (1972)|BG 16.8]]).</p>
<p>Jayadvaita: Na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Nāpi cācāro. Na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro...</p>
<p>Jayadvaita: Na satyaṁ teṣ...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate. This is the whole population. They do not know... There are big, big nation, big, big philosopher, big, big scientists and all very big, but what kind of life they should live, they do not know. What is the accurate destination of our life, that they do not know. And all humbug, big, big scientist, philosopher, theologist, and so on, so on, politician, sociologist, welfare. But real thing, they are rascal.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkJune271975LosAngeles_4" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="115" link="Morning Walk -- June 27, 1975, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- June 27, 1975, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 27, 1975, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- June 27, 1975, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: What is the accurate destination of our life, that they do not know. And all humbug, big, big scientist, philosopher, theologist, and so on, so on, politician, sociologist, welfare. But real thing, they are rascal. They do not know which way we have to go. So what is the use of these big, big words? They do not know which way to go. Suppose we are walking. If we go to the this side without knowing that "This is water; we should not go," then what is the use? That is their defect. Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca na vidur āsurāḥ janā. Na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). (chuckles) Śaucam, cleanliness, they do not know, neither behavior. Nāpi cācāro. Jagad āhur anīśvaram; ([[Vanisource:BG 16.8 (1972)|BG 16.8]]) "Oh, there is no God. It has come out out of the sand." This is the whole population.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember121975Vrndavana_5" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="259" link="Morning Walk -- December 12, 1975, Vrndavana" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 12, 1975, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 12, 1975, Vrndavana|Morning Walk -- December 12, 1975, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hari-śauri: The sixteenth chapter describes it very nicely...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca, na vidur āsurāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). In which way we have direct out activities, in which way we shall have to stop our activities: they do not know. Āsurāḥ janā. Because they don't take direction from God. They make their own way of speculation. So therefore, they are animals, or demons. Because they do not take direction during life, therefore at the end Kṛṣṇa comes, mṛtyuḥ sarva-haraś cāham ([[Vanisource:BG 10.34 (1972)|BG 10.34]]). All mental speculation, creation, is taken away at death. (to passerby:) Hare Kṛṣṇa! It is said, kṛṣṇa nama koro vai ar sabe miche palaiba patha nāi yama āche piche: take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, don't try to escape. Because behind you there is Yamaraja! (laughs) He will finish your all concoction. Hare Kṛṣṇa! (end)</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember181975Bombay_6" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="264" link="Morning Walk -- December 18, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 18, 1975, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 18, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- December 18, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Āsurī means godlessness. "There is no God; I am God."</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Believing in the...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. "There is no God. I am God." What is that beginning? Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca na vidur āsura ajana (sic) ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]), and? There is no creator? What is the exact word?</p>
<p>Harikeśa: Apratiṣṭham.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Apratiṣṭham. There is no cause of this creation. Kāma-haitukam: it has taken place just like a man becomes lusty by seeing a woman and he begets a child. This is the cause, this rascal desire. That's all.</p>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="GardenDiscussiononBhagavadgitaSixteenthChapterJune261976NewVrindaban_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="162" link="Garden Discussion on Bhagavad-gita Sixteenth Chapter -- June 26, 1976, New Vrindaban" link_text="Garden Discussion on Bhagavad-gita Sixteenth Chapter -- June 26, 1976, New Vrindaban">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Garden Discussion on Bhagavad-gita Sixteenth Chapter -- June 26, 1976, New Vrindaban|Garden Discussion on Bhagavad-gita Sixteenth Chapter -- June 26, 1976, New Vrindaban]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: There are so many religious systems: "Yes, you can do whatever you like, you can eat whatever you like," and still it is religion. This is demoniac. That will be explained further. Huh? Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca na vidur āsurāḥ janā ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). No, not in the beginning.</p>
<p>Dhṛṣṭadyumna: Number twenty-three?</p>
<p>Pradyumna: We just did that one. Text seven.</p>
<p>Dhṛṣṭadyumna: Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: You have not recited this verse already? Oh, yes. Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttim, this is the... They do not know what to do, what to not do. Because they do not take any standard idea. They manufacture their own ideas.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember291976Bombay_1" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="361" link="Morning Walk -- December 29, 1976, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 29, 1976, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 29, 1976, Bombay|Morning Walk -- December 29, 1976, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: I don't think it is dullness. It is fanaticism maybe.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: And who becomes fanatic? All rascals, dull. They become fanatic. Otherwise, why one should be fanatic? If one has got brain, one has got logic, how he should be fanatic? Fanatics means dullheaded rascal, that's all. The Muslims they become fanatic, we say, generally they are, because they're dullheaded. Always unclean and eating meat and low behavior. What is that? Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca janā na vidur āsurāḥ, na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāraḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]]). This is dull head. There is no cleanliness, no behavior. (Hindi) That is especially mentioned. That ayaṁ deha. Nāyaṁ deho deha-bhājāṁ nṛloke kaṣṭān kāmān arhate viḍ-bhujāṁ ye ([[Vanisource:SB 5.5.1|SB 5.5.1]]). This kind of life is meant for the hogs, not for the human beings. (Hindi) Sex. No discrimination. (Hindi) Sex is a bodily, what is the...</p>
<p>Guest (1): Necessity of life.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Biological necessity.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Necessity. What is the difference? Why not with sister, why not with daughter or even why not with mother? What is the wrong there? They say like that?</p>
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationFebruary181977Mayapura_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="91" link="Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura" link_text="Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Then description is there in the Sixteenth Chapter, exactly of the Western civilization. Read it.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri:</p>
:pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca
:janā na vidur āsurāḥ
:na śaucaṁ nāpi cācāro
:na satyaṁ teṣu vidyate
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.7 (1972)|BG 16.7]])
<p>"Those who are demoniac do not know what is to be done and what is not to be done."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is their first qualification. They do not know what is the aim of life. Ask anyone what is the aim of life. They cannot say, like animal. Animal does not know. Eat, sleep, sex. They do not know. This is the demon's first quality. In which way life should be directed, they do not know. They are missing that.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationFebruary181977Mayapura_1" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="91" link="Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura" link_text="Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: (laughs) Us? Au...?</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. We're the main cult.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then? This is a verse. They do not know what is the aim of life.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: "Neither cleanliness nor proper behavior nor truth is found in them." All liars and cheats.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is demon.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They're filthy. That's for sure. They are filthy. They have no idea of... In New York you can see that. They smell nasty. They keep on their shoes. You have to tell them to take... They never wash after eating. Even animals wash. At least they try to keep clean.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Read.</p>
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